Re: dead had in freezer?
I've used the freezer method when a drives directory has gotten corrupt and I can't see the drive and I get the message that it can't be recognized and needs to be formatted. I freeze the drive overnite, usually its recognized when I plug it in, run diskdoctor and then diskwarrior and I'm good to go. And I have used those drives for years. But I don't want anyone to think that if there drive is clacking or bad then you should continue to use it. In the past when this has happened to me, someone has disconnected the drive before the tower was off so it corrupted the drive directory. And knowing I have tons of files on it, I had to rescue it. So the freezing is a very viable option, at least for me numerous times. Knock on wood. Linda -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dead had in freezer?
On Feb 11, 2005, at 1:53 AM, Bob wrote: ***As to whether leaving a towel in the oven in a baking dish for an hour constitutes a fire hazard, I don't know. I'll leave that decision to some of the more domesticated members of our list. But I don't want to be responsible for starting a fire in your dwelling, so CHECK WITH A KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSON BEFORE USING THE TOWEL. You would have to work pretty hard to get this to catch on fire at such a low temperature. Things to make sure of: 1) Oven has reliable thermostat. 2) Towel is cotton (as opposed to a synthetic fabric that could melt). 3) Pan, towel, and oven are fairly clean. Set in center of oven. --Knowledgeable Person -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dead had in freezer?
On Feb 9, 2005, at 8:31 PM, Bob wrote: The National Enquirer reports at 8:27 PM -0500 2/9/05, Dylan Moore wrote: Try putting the dying hard drive into a zip-lock bag, sealing it and storing it in your freezer over night. Tomorrow remove it let it warm up. You should get an hour or more out of it so you can transfer the files to your new already installed drive. John really? thats the most bizarre fix i've ever come across, if you're being serious. what's the basic explanation for that one? *intrrigued* I mean i understand the #1 reason for HD failure is heat, but intuitively i would think it would wreak havoc with the parts to put it in the freezer. But if this is really a fix, i could see the ziplock bag being necessary- no one wants freezer burned data! ( = -dylan While we're on the truth is stranger than fiction theme. Putting a H.D. in a kitchen oven for a few minutes can also solve some problems; at least temporarily. In days gone by, in some drives, the lubrication on the platters and/or on the spindle would harden and instead of lubricating the drive's components, it caused them to stick together and kept things from spinning. That was known as stiction. Baking the drive at a low heat caused the lubrication to soften and reflow, allowing the drive to spin up again. I don't believe that newer drives have the same stiction problem. Never know what you'll learn on a Mac list, huh? :-) Ok folks. . .I've got a 75 gig IBM hard drive that sounds like a plane taking off during initial boot, and a saw mill during normal operation. Which is recommended? Freezer? Or Oven? Does anything think that one or both of these ideas might fix the drive before the bearings go bad? (I can't believe I'm asking this, but hey, Bob's right. . .you never know what you'll learn on a Mac List!! Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dead had in freezer?
The National Enquirer reports at 1:43 AM -0800 2/10/05, Zoltan Batiz wrote: snip Ok folks. . .I've got a 75 gig IBM hard drive that sounds like a plane taking off during initial boot, and a saw mill during normal operation. Which is recommended? Freezer? Or Oven? Does anything think that one or both of these ideas might fix the drive before the bearings go bad? (I can't believe I'm asking this, but hey, Bob's right. . .you never know what you'll learn on a Mac List!! I would completely agree with Clark. *If you can,* backup the information off the drive as it is. Then, if you want to try one of the guru tricks, do so without trepidation. However, since it sounds like someone -- maybe more, who knows -- may give this method a try, if I'm not too late, let add the salient details on how I was told to do it: Remove the drive from your machine (if it is an internal drive) or from the case (if it is an external drive). Put a towel inside of a baking dish*** Put the drive on top of the towel. (This is to keep any plastic from melting from contact with the pan.) Put the baking dish with the towel and the drive inside of your oven and set the oven to bake at about 120 degrees Fahrenheit for about 10-12 minutes or so. Let the drive cool off and then reinstall it. I received two recommendations: 120 °F for 10 minutes and 125 °F for an hour. One source baked it at 125 °F for an hour and this apparently worked--after the drive had cooled to room temperature and was plugged in it spun up immediately, where previously it wouldn't move at all. If it were me, I think I would try it after 10 minutes to see if that worked or not, then go for the hour if it didn't work. ***As to whether leaving a towel in the oven in a baking dish for an hour constitutes a fire hazard, I don't know. I'll leave that decision to some of the more domesticated members of our list. But I don't want to be responsible for starting a fire in your dwelling, so CHECK WITH A KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSON BEFORE USING THE TOWEL. (I apologize for the caps, but since we can't use stylized text, such as bold or underlining, on the list, I needed to strongly emphasize the warning above.) Good Luck, Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dead had in freezer?
The National Enquirer reports at 8:27 PM -0500 2/9/05, Dylan Moore wrote: Try putting the dying hard drive into a zip-lock bag, sealing it and storing it in your freezer over night. Tomorrow remove it let it warm up. You should get an hour or more out of it so you can transfer the files to your new already installed drive. John really? thats the most bizarre fix i've ever come across, if you're being serious. what's the basic explanation for that one? *intrrigued* I mean i understand the #1 reason for HD failure is heat, but intuitively i would think it would wreak havoc with the parts to put it in the freezer. But if this is really a fix, i could see the ziplock bag being necessary- no one wants freezer burned data! ( = -dylan While we're on the truth is stranger than fiction theme. Putting a H.D. in a kitchen oven for a few minutes can also solve some problems; at least temporarily. In days gone by, in some drives, the lubrication on the platters and/or on the spindle would harden and instead of lubricating the drive's components, it caused them to stick together and kept things from spinning. That was known as stiction. Baking the drive at a low heat caused the lubrication to soften and reflow, allowing the drive to spin up again. I don't believe that newer drives have the same stiction problem. Never know what you'll learn on a Mac list, huh? :-) Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
