Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards
On Sep 10, 2004, at 7:16 am, Eric Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just thought I'd pass on a rumor I heard from a rep at CDW. He said that he spoke with a D-Link rep at Comdex (I think he said Comdex) and the rep told him they were going to be releasing an internal airport card (like the old card Apple used to sell) for the Pismo, old iBooks, etc. The time frame the D-Link rep told him was end of September. If you read MacInTouch, I posted this rumor over there as well. Hopefully this is true and will end both the scarcity of old cards as well as the hyper-inflated prices. That's good news, if true. Apple clearly left some money on the table by getting out of the 802.11b AirPort card market when they did. And Mark Kippert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I certainly hope they release it as the faster 802.11g. Doubtful. Apple's always said that the interface they used for the 'b' cards didn't have the bandwidth to support the 'g' cards--hence the different (and incompatible) interfaces of the two cards. -Jeff[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You can't brew a premium lager with a Kool-aid mentality. --Harold Green in _The_Red_Green_Show_ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards
Hi: Just thought I'd pass on a rumor I heard from a rep at CDW. He said that he spoke with a D-Link rep at Comdex (I think he said Comdex) and the rep told him they were going to be releasing an internal airport card (like the old card Apple used to sell) for the Pismo, old iBooks, etc. The time frame the D-Link rep told him was end of September. If you read MacInTouch, I posted this rumor over there as well. Hopefully this is true and will end both the scarcity of old cards as well as the hyper-inflated prices. ... Eric -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards
Eric Morrison on 9/9/04 8:31 AM wrote: Just thought I'd pass on a rumor I heard from a rep at CDW. He said that he spoke with a D-Link rep at Comdex (I think he said Comdex) and the rep told him they were going to be releasing an internal airport card (like the old card Apple used to sell) for the Pismo, old iBooks, etc. The time frame the D-Link rep told him was end of September. If you read MacInTouch, I posted this rumor over there as well. Hopefully this is true and will end both the scarcity of old cards as well as the hyper-inflated prices. ... Eric I certainly hope they release it as the faster 802.11g. -Mark -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards
At 9:53 AM -0500 9/9/04, Mark Kippert wrote: Eric Morrison on 9/9/04 8:31 AM wrote: Just thought I'd pass on a rumor I heard from a rep at CDW. He said that he spoke with a D-Link rep at Comdex (I think he said Comdex) and the rep told him they were going to be releasing an internal airport card (like the old card Apple used to sell) for the Pismo, old iBooks, etc. The time frame the D-Link rep told him was end of September. If you read MacInTouch, I posted this rumor over there as well. Hopefully this is true and will end both the scarcity of old cards as well as the hyper-inflated prices. ... Eric I certainly hope they release it as the faster 802.11g. It would be nice but very unlikely. The card would still have to be a more or less PC Card, non-CardBus. It's not going to be able to handle 54MBps. There is also the software issue. -- -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards
It will probably sell for $79, but with the legendary D-Link rebates, it will likely cost $39 in a few months! - Original Message - From: Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards At 9:53 AM -0500 9/9/04, Mark Kippert wrote: Eric Morrison on 9/9/04 8:31 AM wrote: Just thought I'd pass on a rumor I heard from a rep at CDW. He said that he spoke with a D-Link rep at Comdex (I think he said Comdex) and the rep told him they were going to be releasing an internal airport card (like the old card Apple used to sell) for the Pismo, old iBooks, etc. The time frame the D-Link rep told him was end of September. If you read MacInTouch, I posted this rumor over there as well. Hopefully this is true and will end both the scarcity of old cards as well as the hyper-inflated prices. ... Eric I certainly hope they release it as the faster 802.11g. It would be nice but very unlikely. The card would still have to be a more or less PC Card, non-CardBus. It's not going to be able to handle 54MBps. There is also the software issue. -- -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....
The National Enquirer reports at 11:46 PM -0400 9/6/04, Clyde Kahrl wrote: B0b wrote: Clyde, What's a 802.11DS card? I know it's a wireless PCMCIA card. But what's the DS all about. And I've seen the RoamAbout description before, but I'm not sure what exactly it refers to. Thanx, B0b A: Wow a direct question by name and I am so self-conscious of my innate ignorance. Didn't mean to put you on the spot, Clyde. You had just told us about the deal on the Wegener site and I thought you knew all of the specifics. But no problem, your message resulted in a lot of good knowledge exchange. Anyway, by now, B0b (sp?--is that pronounced bOHb or bzerob?) It's plain old Bob with an oh. you have heard a lot from a lot of people and I have learned some things. As have I. Thanks for the reply. Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....
Hmm, I am hopping to move a bondi blue iMac out onto the Wireless range of my home. Yes, I have Ethernet now, And I know the slot loader iMacs have both airport and ethernet, so I am still monitoring this thread vewwwy clowwwsly. On Sep 6, 2004, at 8:43 PM, Clyde Kahrl wrote: Tom Wrote: Way off topic, anyone use USB wireless dongles with OSX? I have a linksys USB that works ok on the PC, is identified in the profiler on OSX, but does not appear in the Network panel. Is this a dead end? A: I have heard some people say they work OK when you have no card slot,--like Will above who has an iBook--but I would always look for an ethernet dongle (do they make them for laptops?) before a USB dongle. You are supposed to network through your ethernet port--not your USB port. -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards...
There is in fact Ethernet wireless bridges which someone will be bound to point out. They may work but they aren't all that small and need a wall plug. Really great for the old Powerbook on the go ;-) Will S FWIW, I have a USB to wireless Ethernet bridge on my son's (non-Mac) PC at home. It's powered off of the USB port and it works fine for his web surfing and java/flash game playing fixes. Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards
Just for the record... there are USB Wireless cards that work with iBooks and perhaps other machines that don't have PCMCIA slots but do have USB. I have the D-Link DWL-122 USB Wireless Adapter. Comes with drivers for Mac OS X 10.2 and up (also Windows 98 and up) Works fine and cost $39.95 with $20.00 rebate for $19.95 total price! Some months ago I got for nuts aD-Link DWL-122 USB Wireless Adapter for my Lombard and all I had was random OS crashes (OS 10.3.4). Investigating the German D-link forums I found that he problem was well known, thus I promptly sold the adapter. They might have released new drivers in the meantime though... cheers, gianfranco -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....
Tom Wrote: Way off topic, anyone use USB wireless dongles with OSX? I have a linksys USB that works ok on the PC, is identified in the profiler on OSX, but does not appear in the Network panel. Is this a dead end? A: I have heard some people say they work OK when you have no card slot,--like Will above who has an iBook--but I would always look for an ethernet dongle (do they make them for laptops?) before a USB dongle. You are supposed to network through your ethernet port--not your USB port. -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....
B0b wrote: Clyde, What's a 802.11DS card? I know it's a wireless PCMCIA card. But what's the DS all about. And I've seen the RoamAbout description before, but I'm not sure what exactly it refers to. Thanx, B0b A: Wow a direct question by name and I am so self-conscious of my innate ignorance. Anyway, by now, B0b (sp?--is that pronounced bOHb or bzerob?) you have heard a lot from a lot of people and I have learned some things. One thing I can repeat is that 802.11(b) probably does go farther than (g). I thought that the DS was something that D-Link used for their super fast version of their card. Apparently it means: Direct Sequence-compliant wireless network interface card and it is offered for interasys cards. As apparently everyone else knows, this is an old crappy standard. Anyway, the D-Link plus cards that allow you to use their faster proprietary system when their router is available. As far as I can tell these cards default down to the the normal standards otherwise. I really have lots of skepticism about all this stuff. What I do know is that caching and signal selection and switching and conflict resolution and so forth are critical for wireless networks and this guy at Ohio State came up with the first solution to make 802.11(b) actually work even thought other faster standards were already out. Apple licensed some of this stuff from this guy. I don't know about other people but there are huge performance disparities with all of this equipment based upon signal strength caching and so forth. Just make sure, if you have some old macs and printers, get stuff that transmits appletalk packets. Some D--link things don't. -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards
From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 20:03:36 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The WirelessDriver from sourceforge.net support the Orinoco and is free. Works very nicely, but perhaps IOXperts is even better I dunno. Actually I just bought two of the orinoco cards from Wegener last week and they do now come with OS X drivers for free Anyway to sample that OSX Driver? I don't know which driver Wegener is including. Their web site doesn't seem to give any hint either. But if it's either the Sourceforge open source driver (free) or the IOXperts driver ($20 shareware), you can install these drivers and try them before deciding which one to settle on. Email Wegener and ask them. In case you aren't aware, these drivers are OS X only. I don't know what people are using with these cards in OS 9. That's why I went with a card that would use the Apple OS 8/9 drivers. Also, anyone know of a driver for either Belkin or Linksys cards that will work in 9 or X? That's not an easy question to answer correctly without more information. Are you still talking about 802.11b cards (not 11g)? Which cards specifically? For OS X, your first step should be to go to the web-sites of the two drivers mentioned above and see if they list your cards as being supported. The other option would be to install the drivers and see if they work with those cards (unless you are trying to decided whether to buy the cards or not). The Belkin cards are difficult to generalize. There are multiple generations of cards that have the same part number but are completely different cards and will not work with the drivers you find on-line. For instance, the 2nd generation Belkin is not prism-based and therefore despite what you read, it will not work at all with the 3 drivers you see on-line (or so I'm told). Bob You can add Linksys cards to the same list as Belkin. Cards with the same model numbers use different chips! If you look closely they do have different version numbers which help find which chip they use. Which will help you with which divers to use. Most any Orinoco/Lucent 802.11b card should work with the Airport drivers as well as the others. If you open up the original Airport base stations you will find a Lucent(Orinoco chip) 802.11b PCMCIA card inside. Yes it even unplugs! New Airport 802.11g cards use broadcom chips so that is why those cards can be used with Airport software. One small correction the iOxperts people have OS 9 drivers as well as OSX. I believe they even work with OS 8.6. Macsense drivers which come with their cards are re-branded iOxpert drivers. Here is a very helpful website which shows which cards and drivers work with OSX and helps you find which chip cards use. http://home.earthlink.net/~metaphyzx/Wireless.htm I continue to be amazed and amused with how many people are trading their old 802.11b cards for the new faster 802.11g. Most of them are then hooking them up to their cable or DSL routers or modems. They don't seem to realize that broadband internet use will never come close to using more then maybe 1/5th- 1/4 of the speed of the slower b card. Also the g cards generally have a shorter range then the b cards. The marketing people sure know to trick us into buying new stuff ;-) Will S PS. the early Airport cards will fall in price once the rush is over ;-) But it may take a while -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....
Way off topic, anyone use USB wireless dongles with OSX? I have a linksys USB that works ok on the PC, is identified in the profiler on OSX, but does not appear in the Network panel. Is this a dead end? Thanks. On Sep 4, 2004, at 8:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The WirelessDriver from sourceforge.net support the Orinoco and is free. Works very nicely, but perhaps IOXperts is even better I dunno. Actually I just bought two of the orinoco cards from Wegener last week and they do now come with OS X drivers for free Anyway to sample that OSX Driver? Also, anyone know of a driver for either Belkin or Linksys cards that will work in 9 or X? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards
None of this makes any difference to those of us that do not have a PCI slot in our laptops, which makes the non extreme Airport cards the only option. Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards
From: Thomas Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 14:14:56 -0500 None of this makes any difference to those of us that do not have a PCI slot in our laptops, which makes the non extreme Airport cards the only option. Tom What does having a PCI slot have to do with a laptop Ok, I know you meant PC card slot (PCMCIA /Cardbus slot ;-) Just for the record... there are USB Wireless cards that work with iBooks and perhaps other machines that don't have PCMCIA slots but do have USB. I have the D-Link DWL-122 USB Wireless Adapter. Comes with drivers for Mac OS X 10.2 and up (also Windows 98 and up) Works fine and cost $39.95 with $20.00 rebate for $19.95 total price! I am in the early stages of setting up a wireless network (hopefully) for the apt building where I live. This USB adapter is great as it works with any PC or Mac with USB or add on USB card. It will make testing much easier for me with various machines since it works with nearly any machine that can be used for wireless networking. Belkin F5D6050 USB adapter also comes with drivers for Mac OSX 10.1,10.2 10.3 and Mac OS 9.22 ! From: Tom Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 20:11:10 -0700 Way off topic, anyone use USB wireless dongles with OSX? I have a linksys USB that works ok on the PC, is identified in the profiler on OSX, but does not appear in the Network panel. Is this a dead end? Thanks. See above for one USB dongle and one USB adapter with Mac drivers. The Linksys USB likely depends on what chip the card uses. There maybe existing drivers that can be made to work. See this page for info on how one guy got a USB adapter with no Mac drivers from the selling company to work. http://mcquitty.net/Thomas/projects/USBWirelessOSX.html best of luck Will S -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....
The WirelessDriver from sourceforge.net support the Orinoco and is free. Works very nicely, but perhaps IOXperts is even better I dunno. Actually I just bought two of the orinoco cards from Wegener last week and they do now come with OS X drivers for free Anyway to sample that OSX Driver? Also, anyone know of a driver for either Belkin or Linksys cards that will work in 9 or X? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....
The National Enquirer reports at 8:58 AM -0700 9/4/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The WirelessDriver from sourceforge.net support the Orinoco and is free. Works very nicely, but perhaps IOXperts is even better I dunno. Actually I just bought two of the orinoco cards from Wegener last week and they do now come with OS X drivers for free Anyway to sample that OSX Driver? I don't know which driver Wegener is including. Their web site doesn't seem to give any hint either. But if it's either the Sourceforge open source driver (free) or the IOXperts driver ($20 shareware), you can install these drivers and try them before deciding which one to settle on. Email Wegener and ask them. In case you aren't aware, these drivers are OS X only. I don't know what people are using with these cards in OS 9. That's why I went with a card that would use the Apple OS 8/9 drivers. Also, anyone know of a driver for either Belkin or Linksys cards that will work in 9 or X? That's not an easy question to answer correctly without more information. Are you still talking about 802.11b cards (not 11g)? Which cards specifically? For OS X, your first step should be to go to the web-sites of the two drivers mentioned above and see if they list your cards as being supported. The other option would be to install the drivers and see if they work with those cards (unless you are trying to decided whether to buy the cards or not). The Belkin cards are difficult to generalize. There are multiple generations of cards that have the same part number but are completely different cards and will not work with the drivers you find on-line. For instance, the 2nd generation Belkin is not prism-based and therefore despite what you read, it will not work at all with the 3 drivers you see on-line (or so I'm told). BTW the drivers mentioned above are not the only ones available. Orangeware makes a shareware driver http://www.orangeware.com/endusers/wirelessformac.html and it is supposed to support the Linksys card. HTH, Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....
The National Enquirer reports at 11:55 PM -0400 9/2/04, Clyde Kahrl wrote: Eric wrote: Any suggestions for a decent, reasonable source? A: Source for what? you can always get the old orinoco (roam about) cardbus cards from Wegener for $28 Clyde, What's a 802.11DS card? I know it's a wireless PCMCIA card. But what's the DS all about. And I've seen the RoamAbout description before, but I'm not sure what exactly it refers to. Thanx, B0b -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....
Clyde, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: A: Source for what? you can always get the old orinoco (roam about) cardbus cards from Wegener for $28--it comes with an OS9 driver but you have to download a $20 driver to use OSX from IOXperts, or orange micro--although maybe proxim is now giving the driver away--i'm not sure. If you have a TiBook like I had---this gives great reception because it hangs outside. The WirelessDriver from sourceforge.net support the Orinoco and is free. Works very nicely, but perhaps IOXperts is even better I dunno. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....
My reply follows quote: A: Source for what? you can always get the old orinoco (roam about) cardbus cards from Wegener for $28--it comes with an OS9 driver but you have to download a $20 driver to use OSX from IOXperts, or orange micro--although maybe proxim is now giving the driver away--i'm not sure. If you have a TiBook like I had---this gives great reception because it hangs outside. The WirelessDriver from sourceforge.net support the Orinoco and is free. Works very nicely, but perhaps IOXperts is even better I dunno. Actually I just bought two of the orinoco cards from Wegener last week and they do now come with OS X drivers for free. Popped one card into my wife's pismo and one into a friends titanium/500mhz, loaded the drivers, and they were on the airport network at restart. We're still working out some network printing issues, but as far as web access and e-mail no problems. Sam Strong Henley Middle School -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....
Erik Ness on 9/2/04 10:16 AM wrote: Oy, when did they go through the roof? I was looking just a few months ago and they were reasonable. What happened? Any suggestions for a decent, reasonable source? Looks like you can now purchase them as a service part (which means just a 90 day warranty). Prices vary depending on who you buy the from. So far I've found the following, all claiming to be in stock: LA Computers, $78: http://www.lacomputercompany.com/cgi-local/rpcart/index.cgi?command=dispite mtype=itemskuitemsku=10061 ExperCom, $79: http://www.expercom.com/product_detail.html?PRODUCT_ID=290654 Smalldog $119: http://www.smalldog.com/product/12653658 I'm guessing you'll be able to buy them at your local Apple Store too. -Mark -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....
Oy, when did they go through the roof? I was looking just a few months ago and they were reasonable. What happened? Any suggestions for a decent, reasonable source? Regards, Erik Ness -- ### Erik Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] 608-242-7604 Urban Outfitters: http://nrdc.org/onearth/04win/reviews.asp Dirty Minds: http://www.gristmagazine.com/books/books121503.asp -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....
On 02/09/04 11:16, Erik Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oy, when did they go through the roof? I was looking just a few months ago and they were reasonable. What happened? Any suggestions for a decent, reasonable source? I think the prices went up when Apple discontinued them... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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He who snoozes looses! When Apple announced they were no longer making the old cards the price doubled in a single day. Now a deal is $110, not the $65 they were going for. Tom On 9/2/04 10:16 AM, Erik Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oy, when did they go through the roof? I was looking just a few months ago and they were reasonable. What happened? Any suggestions for a decent, reasonable source? Regards, Erik Ness -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: extreme prices for non-extreme Airport cards....
Eric wrote: Any suggestions for a decent, reasonable source? A: Source for what? you can always get the old orinoco (roam about) cardbus cards from Wegener for $28--it comes with an OS9 driver but you have to download a $20 driver to use OSX from IOXperts, or orange micro--although maybe proxim is now giving the driver away--i'm not sure. If you have a TiBook like I had---this gives great reception because it hangs outside. Some people use a cheap D-link USB wireless adapter with IBooks. -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
