Re: force quit?
On Tuesday, November 19, 2002, at 01:40 AM, (G-Books) wrote: I'm not sure about the file structure used by Mail since I haven't used it. I would be tempted to suggest you remove the preference file, don't throw it a way, just move it out of the Library/Preferences directory, in your home directory and launch Mail again. See what happens. I would imagine that the file would be named 'com.apple.Mail' or something similar. This worked! (or at least, no problems again so far!) :) Thanks! -- Amber Rhea [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tangerinecs.com/~amber /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / No HTML/RTF in email X No Word docs in email / \ Respect Open Standards! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: force quit?
Why does moving the preference file help? I occasionally have problems with OS 10.1.5 Mail app (annoying messages about mailboxes being locked, etc) and an Applecare tech guy suggested doing this, but I don't get why. For me, it didn't work. Thanks, Donald On Wednesday, November 20, 2002, at 10:54 PM, Amber Rhea wrote: On Tuesday, November 19, 2002, at 01:40 AM, (G-Books) wrote: I'm not sure about the file structure used by Mail since I haven't used it. I would be tempted to suggest you remove the preference file, don't throw it a way, just move it out of the Library/Preferences directory, in your home directory and launch Mail again. See what happens. I would imagine that the file would be named 'com.apple.Mail' or something similar. This worked! (or at least, no problems again so far!) :) Thanks! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: force quit?
on 20/11/02 23:00, Donald Keenan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does moving the preference file help? I occasionally have problems with OS 10.1.5 Mail app (annoying messages about mailboxes being locked, etc) and an Applecare tech guy suggested doing this, but I don't get why. For me, it didn't work. Thanks, Donald On Wednesday, November 20, 2002, at 10:54 PM, Amber Rhea wrote: On Tuesday, November 19, 2002, at 01:40 AM, (G-Books) wrote: I'm not sure about the file structure used by Mail since I haven't used it. I would be tempted to suggest you remove the preference file, don't throw it a way, just move it out of the Library/Preferences directory, in your home directory and launch Mail again. See what happens. I would imagine that the file would be named 'com.apple.Mail' or something similar. This worked! (or at least, no problems again so far!) :) Thanks! Glad it worked. Why moving the preference file help? Good question! Most likely because the file becomes corrupted. There are bogus values in it and when the application tries to make sense of it, you can start seeing the application getting busy and the busy cursor appears and the app never recovers. At that point, the application, if it doesn't crash, might be loss in some kind of endless loop, trying to get at non-existent or faked values. If you force quit, sometimes it just makes things worst if the application was updating that file. It can be left with even more bogus values. When you launch the app, it might still be working because some parts of the file are still fine, but as soon as the app tries to access the damaged part, all kind of things might happen. It's hard to tell because there are some techniques that you can sometimes use in order to detect something that doesn't make any sense. However, due to the highly object-oriented nature of the system, sometimes you don't have control over it since it's a private class or a private piece of code that is executing. In that case, there isn't much you can do, unless overriding those parts... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gates's Law: The speed of software halves every 18 months. This oft-cited law is an ironic comment on the tendency of software bloat to outpace the every-18-month doubling in hardware capacity per dollar predicted by Moore's Law. The reference is to Bill Gates; Microsoft is widely considered among the worst if not the worst of the perpetrators of bloat. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
force quit?
As I posted a few days ago, lately I have been having to force quit OS X Mail a lot, due to randomly getting the incessant spinning beachball which will not stop, and the application will not respond to any keystrokes. No one replied to my post to offer any suggestions as to why Mail is suddenly behaving this way, but the cause doesn't bother me as much as the possible effects - how potentially damaging is it, really, to force quit often? I imagine it would be different under OS X than OS 9, but I know it's still not the ideal thing to do. Thanks, Amber -- *** Amber Rhea *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tangerinecs.com /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / No HTML/RTF in email X No Word docs in email / \ Respect open standards! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: force quit?
on 18/11/02 22:40, Amber Rhea at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I posted a few days ago, lately I have been having to force quit OS X Mail a lot, due to randomly getting the incessant spinning beachball which will not stop, and the application will not respond to any keystrokes. No one replied to my post to offer any suggestions as to why Mail is suddenly behaving this way, but the cause doesn't bother me as much as the possible effects - how potentially damaging is it, really, to force quit often? I imagine it would be different under OS X than OS 9, but I know it's still not the ideal thing to do. It's hard to tell for sure, but when you force quit an application, damages to files can happen if the application was writing to disk. I would imagine, although I don't have any certitude, that preference files and documents could be damaged if the application is just in the middle of updating those. Then, under some circumstances, the application might have problem recovering from those conditions when launched again, which could result in additional problems. It always depends on how the application was written to deal with abnormal conditions. Some don't always behave gracefully... I'm not sure about the file structure used by Mail since I haven't used it. I would be tempted to suggest you remove the preference file, don't throw it a way, just move it out of the Library/Preferences directory, in your home directory and launch Mail again. See what happens. I would imagine that the file would be named 'com.apple.Mail' or something similar. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/RV: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] foo /foo/ 1. interj. Term of disgust. 2. [very common] Used very generally as a sample name for absolutely anything, esp. programs and files (esp. scratch files). 3. First on the standard list of metasyntactic variables used in syntax examples. See also bar, baz, qux, quux, corge, grault, garply, waldo, fred, plugh, xyzzy, thud. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
