iBook500 + CDRW/DVD/Firewire + Patched 2.7 plyr -Playback??

2002-11-20 Thread discoveryarts
Im trying to get dvd playback on my ibook 500   with a cdrw/dvd-rom pulled
from my BW before trade and placed in Sony iLink case. It burnes just fine
 just burnt a cd  but I cant get it to play back dvd's...I assumed I could
use the patched 2.7 player set-up   but Im having no luck... any ideas?

Thanks
Ralph


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Re: iBook500 + CDRW/DVD/Firewire + Patched 2.7 plyr -Playback??

2002-11-20 Thread Jeremy Derr
On Wednesday, November 20, 2002, at 10:00  PM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Im trying to get dvd playback on my ibook 500   with a cdrw/dvd-rom 
 pulled
 from my BW before trade and placed in Sony iLink case. It burnes 
 just fine
  just burnt a cd  but I cant get it to play back dvd's...I assumed I 
 could
 use the patched 2.7 player set-up   but Im having no luck... any ideas?

generically speaking, external DVD drives don't tend to work (well, if 
at all) with DVD-Video. the DVD decoder (part of the graphics card) is 
mated to specific DVD drives, as well. throughput from the drive 
doesn't tend to meet playback requirements. FireWire may be 400Mbps... 
but your drive won't deliver data anywhere near that fast, and the 
ata-firewire bridge in the iLink case will slow it down further.

side note... even if you have a machine (such as your iBook) that has 
software decoding ... calling it software decoding is deceptive; 
iirc, it's actually software decrypting of the CSS, the MPEG decoding 
still happens on the graphics card. if you take a brand new G4 tower 
and replace the graphics card with a non-MPEG-decoding card, suddenly 
DVD playback won't work. in hardware schemes, both decrypting and 
decoding are handled by hardware.


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Re: iBook500 + CDRW/DVD/Firewire + Patched 2.7 plyr -Playback??

2002-11-20 Thread discoveryarts
So I guess I need to look for an internal drive. Question though... if my
ibook500 didnt come stock with a dvd drive is there still a good chance that
it still has the decoder on the graphics card? and all I need to do is get a
dvd-rom for it.?

on 11/20/02 10:41 AM, Jeremy Derr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 generically speaking, external DVD drives don't tend to work (well, if
 at all) with DVD-Video. the DVD decoder (part of the graphics card) is
 mated to specific DVD drives, as well. throughput from the drive
 doesn't tend to meet playback requirements. FireWire may be 400Mbps...
 but your drive won't deliver data anywhere near that fast, and the
 ata-firewire bridge in the iLink case will slow it down further.
 
 side note... even if you have a machine (such as your iBook) that has
 software decoding ... calling it software decoding is deceptive;
 iirc, it's actually software decrypting of the CSS, the MPEG decoding
 still happens on the graphics card. if you take a brand new G4 tower
 and replace the graphics card with a non-MPEG-decoding card, suddenly
 DVD playback won't work. in hardware schemes, both decrypting and
 decoding are handled by hardware.


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Re: iBook500 + CDRW/DVD/Firewire + Patched 2.7 plyr -Playback??

2002-11-20 Thread Jeremy Derr
On Wednesday, November 20, 2002, at 10:49  PM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So I guess I need to look for an internal drive. Question though... if 
 my
 ibook500 didnt come stock with a dvd drive is there still a good 
 chance that
 it still has the decoder on the graphics card? and all I need to do is 
 get a
 dvd-rom for it.?

my initial guess would be that it would, but that's only an educated 
guess. from experience however, unless you've taken an iceBook apart 
before, it's usually -WAY- more trouble than any upgrade is worth. 
we're authorized to work on them, and I've taken several apart but 
our preference is still to just send them all to Apple and let them do 
it.


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