Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-19 Thread MTH 
On Monday, July 19, 2004, at 10:02  AM, James Rohde wrote:
On 7/18/04, MTH wrote:
I've been using SBC/Yahoo DSL for over a year now without any 
problems.
As I indicated, YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary)...
I was wondering why you use internet connect? I just click on my
browser and I'm online, and my connection stays on until I close my
browser.
I do not always have IC up and running (don't need it to connect), but
had started running it to check on apparent slowness/delays on emails
going out. Internet Connect has the two bars (sending/receiving) that
(like with in OS 9's control panel... OT?/PPP?) can show me if there is
activity going out or coming in. Allows me to see 1) if my system sends
anything out to the mail server (yes), and 2) if the mail server has
responded (no, or ve sllloooww in getting back to my computer).
Glad you haven't had to use SBC/Yahoo's tech support yet. First, you 
will
have to wait a while just to get through (am growing to hate automated
phone systems), and then when you do get to a tech person, several/most
times (haven't been doing any statistical study of my calls, y'know) 
they
cannot resolve my problem. But as I said, things may be otherwise for 
you
(do you work for them or have a relative who does? Maybe that's what I
need).

Glad for your good luck. I'm just not impressed with SBC/Yahoo's 
service
or connections in outstate Missouri. You may be in an urban area and 
that
can make the difference.

Jim Rohde
I live in Kansas and have no family members working for SBC. I guess 
I'm just lucky.

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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-19 Thread James Rohde 
On 7/18/04, MTH wrote:
>
>I've been using SBC/Yahoo DSL for over a year now without any problems. 
As I indicated, YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary)...

>I was wondering why you use internet connect? I just click on my 
>browser and I'm online, and my connection stays on until I close my 
>browser.

I do not always have IC up and running (don't need it to connect), but 
had started running it to check on apparent slowness/delays on emails 
going out. Internet Connect has the two bars (sending/receiving) that 
(like with in OS 9's control panel... OT?/PPP?) can show me if there is 
activity going out or coming in. Allows me to see 1) if my system sends 
anything out to the mail server (yes), and 2) if the mail server has 
responded (no, or ve sllloooww in getting back to my computer).

Glad you haven't had to use SBC/Yahoo's tech support yet. First, you will 
have to wait a while just to get through (am growing to hate automated 
phone systems), and then when you do get to a tech person, several/most 
times (haven't been doing any statistical study of my calls, y'know) they 
cannot resolve my problem. But as I said, things may be otherwise for you 
(do you work for them or have a relative who does? Maybe that's what I 
need).

Glad for your good luck. I'm just not impressed with SBC/Yahoo's service 
or connections in outstate Missouri. You may be in an urban area and that 
can make the difference.

Jim Rohde


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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-18 Thread MTH 
On Sunday, July 18, 2004, at 07:52  AM, James Rohde wrote:
On 7/16/04, Marcin Wichary wrote:
I would disagree here... Since I started with dial-up in 1997 I always
got the exact maximum speed as given in the contract (that's why I
commented on this, maybe I should've been more specific). Right now I
have promised half a megabit from my DSL modem, and I indeed can get
60something KBps. When I was working for an ISP company earlier, we
learnt the lesson very quickly and ALWAYS informed customers about the
realistic speeds they would get from a given connection... otherwise
things got rather nasty rather quick.
Maybe in your country, but it appears companies in the U.S. love to put
some 'weasel words' (like 'up to...') in their descriptions, and figure
that's enough to ward off any lawsuits (maybe their legal depts. told
them?).
I've had troubles with SBC/Yahoo, especially over the past several 
months
(have been with them since Oct. 2003) where the connection is flaky. 
For
example, Internet Connect will say the connection was terminated for 
lack
of activity, when I'm not actively browsing or sending email or
downloading. Or, I'll try to send an email out (with Internet Connect's
window open to watch the activity) and I see the initial 
(contact/request
to the ISP's mail server?) sent out and apparently acknowledged, and 
then
the connection just sits... until it times out. And on downloads I have
seen the rate fluctuate - a lot! (even down to single digit Meg. rates)

So your experience may be satisfactory, but not everyone else's has 
been.
Part of the reason I am NOT guaranteeing that I will stay with 
SBC/Yahoo
when my initial agreement runs out in Oct. 2004.

YMMV.
Jim Rohde
I've been using SBC/Yahoo DSL for over a year now without any problems. 
I was wondering why you use internet connect? I just click on my 
browser and I'm online, and my connection stays on until I close my 
browser.


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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-18 Thread James Rohde 
On 7/16/04, Marcin Wichary wrote:
>
>I would disagree here... Since I started with dial-up in 1997 I always 
>got the exact maximum speed as given in the contract (that's why I 
>commented on this, maybe I should've been more specific). Right now I 
>have promised half a megabit from my DSL modem, and I indeed can get 
>60something KBps. When I was working for an ISP company earlier, we 
>learnt the lesson very quickly and ALWAYS informed customers about the 
>realistic speeds they would get from a given connection... otherwise 
>things got rather nasty rather quick.

Maybe in your country, but it appears companies in the U.S. love to put 
some 'weasel words' (like 'up to...') in their descriptions, and figure 
that's enough to ward off any lawsuits (maybe their legal depts. told 
them?). 

I've had troubles with SBC/Yahoo, especially over the past several months 
(have been with them since Oct. 2003) where the connection is flaky. For 
example, Internet Connect will say the connection was terminated for lack 
of activity, when I'm not actively browsing or sending email or 
downloading. Or, I'll try to send an email out (with Internet Connect's 
window open to watch the activity) and I see the initial (contact/request 
to the ISP's mail server?) sent out and apparently acknowledged, and then 
the connection just sits... until it times out. And on downloads I have 
seen the rate fluctuate - a lot! (even down to single digit Meg. rates)

So your experience may be satisfactory, but not everyone else's has been. 
Part of the reason I am NOT guaranteeing that I will stay with SBC/Yahoo 
when my initial agreement runs out in Oct. 2004.

YMMV.

Jim Rohde

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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-16 Thread Zoltan Batiz 
On Jul 16, 2004, at 1:43 PM, Marcin Wichary wrote:
True enough; but you're probably not going to get the full speed your
cable/dsl company promises you either.  ;)
I would disagree here... Since I started with dial-up in 1997 I always 
got the exact maximum speed as given in the contract (that's why I 
commented on this, maybe I should've been more specific). Right now I 
have promised half a megabit from my DSL modem, and I indeed can get 
60something KBps. When I was working for an ISP company earlier, we 
learnt the lesson very quickly and ALWAYS informed customers about the 
realistic speeds they would get from a given connection... otherwise 
things got rather nasty rather quick.

Consider yourself lucky.  As you know, the overall connection speed 
varies to where the customer lives, the type of connectivity, etc.  
I've been promised "up to" 3M down and 384k up.  My actual connection 
is usually 1.2M down and only 128K up.  Luckily, I'm one of the few 
customers that understands the importance of those two key words in my 
contract. . ."up to".  :)

Z
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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-16 Thread Marcin Wichary 
True enough; but you're probably not going to get the full speed your
cable/dsl company promises you either.  ;)
I would disagree here... Since I started with dial-up in 1997 I always 
got the exact maximum speed as given in the contract (that's why I 
commented on this, maybe I should've been more specific). Right now I 
have promised half a megabit from my DSL modem, and I indeed can get 
60something KBps. When I was working for an ISP company earlier, we 
learnt the lesson very quickly and ALWAYS informed customers about the 
realistic speeds they would get from a given connection... otherwise 
things got rather nasty rather quick.

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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-16 Thread Jeff Drummond 
Marcin Wichary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Remember this:  The maximum bandwidth on regular Airport (802.11b) is 
>> up to 11 mbps.  So far, the fastest consumer connection available 
>> within a reasonable price is up 3 to 3.5mbps.  So. . .why bother with 
>> Extreme?
>
>First of all, 11 Mbps is a nominal speed. You'll never get that.

True enough; but you're probably not going to get the full speed your
cable/dsl company promises you either.  ;)

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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-16 Thread Kenneth Vann 





<-Laurent.>

Airport software will run on the iBook if it has the built in Airport slot.
OS 8.6 and above.

Airport Software Compatibility:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75422


For a iMac, or other computer which does not have a PC Card slot or Airport
slot, Macwireless has a USB adaptor with software for OS 9-OSX
http://www.macwireless.com

And as always, go to Derek Miller's great site to see how to install
wireless on
older PowerBook computers:
http://www.penmachine.com/techie/airport1400.html


Ken Vann







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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-15 Thread Marcin Wichary 
Remember this:  The maximum bandwidth on regular Airport (802.11b) is 
up to 11 mbps.  So far, the fastest consumer connection available 
within a reasonable price is up 3 to 3.5mbps.  So. . .why bother with 
Extreme?
First of all, 11 Mbps is a nominal speed. You'll never get that. I 
myself have never been able to go above 400-500 KBps in one direction 
(which translates to mere 3-4 megabits), with the computers and the 
base station next to each other. (Of course, Ethernet's 10 or 100 Mbps 
are also nominal, but the actual throughput is much closer.)

Second of all, I guess you will appreciate the Extreme speeds whenever 
you will want to transfer larger files (movies, etc.) -- however, in 
such cases you would gather much more anyway by simply plugging the 
computer into the wired Ethernet.

*But* I personally have AirPort Extreme Base Station, PowerBook with 
802.11g, PC with 802.11g and NEC notebook with 802.11b, and I've been 
unable to get 802.11g speeds anyway, between any two machines, which is 
not what Apple states on their website ("If a user of a Wi-Fi-certified 
802.11b product joins the network, that user will get up to 11 Mbps and 
AirPort Extreme and Wi-Fi-certified 802.11g users will get less than 54 
Mbps.") I did not test an ad-hoc (computer-to-computer) connection 
between a PowerBook and a PC yet.

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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-15 Thread Greg Gilmore 
Many thanks to the several list members (and you know whom you are!) who
kindly responded to my questions about upgrading to cable modem and
wireless. I'll be carefully studying all of the replies.

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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-14 Thread Steve Fuller 
[Info on T1 and DS3 lines deleted]
At any rate, an 802.11b connection could quite easily saturate a T1 
line, shared or not :)

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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-14 Thread Zoltan Batiz 
On Jul 14, 2004, at 1:39 PM, Steve Fuller wrote:
On Jul 14, 2004, at 2:37 PM, Zoltan Batiz wrote:
The only real benefit of "g" is being able to transfer tiles to and 
from the computers within the network.  802.11g is great if your 
source is a dedicated or sometimes shared T1.  You are most likely 
talking about a cable modem through Comcast.  Comcast
For a dedicated T1 connection, standard 802.11b can more than saturate 
the connection (a T1 is roughly 1.5Mbit each direction).

Steve Fuller

T-1 Carrier:  A dedicated phone connection supporting data rates of 
1.544Mbits per second.  A T-1 actually consists of 24 individual 
channels, each of which supports 64kbits per second.  Each 
64kbit/second channel can be configured to carry voice or data traffic. 
 Most telephone companies allow you to buy just some of these 
individual channels, known as fractional T-1 access.

T-1 lines are a popular leased line option for businesses connectiong 
to the internet and for ISP's, connecting to the internet backbone.  
The internet backbone itself consists of the faster T-3 connections.  
T-1 lines are sometimes referred to as DS1 lines.


T-3 Carrier:  A dedicated phone connection supporting data rates of 
about 43Mbps.  A T-3 actually consists of 672 individual channels, each 
which supports 64kbps.

T-3 lines are used mainly by ISP's connecting to the internet backbone 
and for the backbone itself.  T-3 lines are sometimes referred to as 
DS3 lines.

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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-14 Thread Zoltan Batiz 
On Jul 14, 2004, at 1:39 PM, Steve Fuller wrote:
On Jul 14, 2004, at 2:37 PM, Zoltan Batiz wrote:
The only real benefit of "g" is being able to transfer tiles to and 
from the computers within the network.  802.11g is great if your 
source is a dedicated or sometimes shared T1.  You are most likely 
talking about a cable modem through Comcast.  Comcast
For a dedicated T1 connection, standard 802.11b can more than saturate 
the connection (a T1 is roughly 1.5Mbit each direction).

Steve Fuller

Actually Steve, a shared T1 is about 1.5.  Heck, you can get 1.5 these 
days with a simple aDSL connection.


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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-14 Thread Steve Fuller 
On Jul 14, 2004, at 2:37 PM, Zoltan Batiz wrote:
The only real benefit of "g" is being able to transfer tiles to and 
from the computers within the network.  802.11g is great if your 
source is a dedicated or sometimes shared T1.  You are most likely 
talking about a cable modem through Comcast.  Comcast
For a dedicated T1 connection, standard 802.11b can more than saturate 
the connection (a T1 is roughly 1.5Mbit each direction).

Steve Fuller
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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-14 Thread Zoltan Batiz 
On Jul 14, 2004, at 6:31 AM, Greg Gilmore wrote:
Since my daughter has decided to continue her college education online,
we¹re finally going to make the leap from 56K to broadband, and to 
obviate
running cables between the 4 Macs that are regularly used for internet
access throughout the house, we¹ll make a simultaneous leap to 
wireless. I,
however, don¹t know much about it and would be very grateful for your 
advice
about what we need to buy in order to bring the following machines up 
to
speed:

1) PowerBook G4/667MHz/OS 10.2. (I¹m pretty sure this machine is 
³Airport
ready², but the card is probably 802.11b, right? I¹d probably want the 
newer
802.11g technology on this one. Is it difficult and/or expensive to
upgrade?)
2) iBook G3/700 MHz/OS 10.2. (This one doesn¹t appear to be ³Airport 
ready²,
but maybe I¹m not looking in the right places. We¹d want 802.11g for 
this
one as well.)
3) PowerBook G3 (Lombard)/400 MHz/OS 9.2.2 (Definitely not ³Airport 
ready².
This machine is used primarily for email so an 802.11b card should be
sufficient, if it can be fitted with one. If so, would the 802.11b 
card from
the G4 PowerBook work here?)
4) iMac/350 MHz/OS 9.2.2 (Definitely not ³Airport ready², but I guess 
this
would be the machine which would connected to the cable modem via 
Ethernet
anyway.)

Sorry, two of these machines would be O.T. for this list, but they¹ll 
all be
networked together. Comcast offers internet cable service in this area 
but I
need to make sure they¹re compatible with Airport.

Thanks for taking the time to consider our questions.
Greg
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and
those who can't.


Greg,
Just pick up a snow Airport base station, pop in a regular Airport card 
in each Mac from eBay and configure the wireless network.  Comcast 
highspeed internet service isn't worth the trouble of trying to get to 
802.11g.  The only real benefit of "g" is being able to transfer tiles 
to and from the computers within the network.  802.11g is great if your 
source is a dedicated or sometimes shared T1.  You are most likely 
talking about a cable modem through Comcast.  Comcast doesn't need to 
know how you are connecting.  DON'T TELL THEM YOU HAVE YOUR OWN 
NETWORK.  They will try to make you buy a bunch of crap you don't need. 
 Sound like I've been there?  Oh yea.  They'll say stuff like "you need 
a special router" and fill you up with nonsense.  Heck, I've been 
online via cable modem and aDSL via my phone line in several different 
places over the years. . .(move a lot), and no matter where I go, the 
Airport system goes with me.  Everyone keeps focusing on how much 
faster Airport Extreme is, but they keep forgetting the speeds of 
consumer connections on average.  Remember this:  The maximum bandwidth 
on regular Airport (802.11b) is up to 11 mbps.  So far, the fastest 
consumer connection available within a reasonable price is up 3 to 
3.5mbps.  So. . .why bother with Extreme?  Extreme is more for a 
business with an insanely fast source connection that's planning on 
transferring giant files to each computer within the network.  Hope 
this helps,

Z
THE BLUETOOTH MASTER
My system:
Apple Airport Snow, Linksys Wired Router (got at WalMart for $17.95), 
PowerMac G4/867, PowerBook G3/500 (Pismo), iBook G4/800, Powerbook G4 
17", and last but not least. . .ol' "trusty" as we call it. . .a G4 
cube.  The desktops are wired to the router, and the base station plugs 
into the router as well.  The ibook and powerbooks then get their 
signal from the station.  My internet connection is ADSL through 
Earthlink.  Not the greatest, but their email is FAST.  My average 
connection with them is around 1.8mbps down, and around 356k up.  I pay 
for up to 3 down and 384k up but what are ya' gonna do. . ..:)

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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-14 Thread MTH 
On Wednesday, July 14, 2004, at 08:31  AM, Greg Gilmore wrote:
Since my daughter has decided to continue her college education online,
we¹re finally going to make the leap from 56K to broadband, and to 
obviate
running cables between the 4 Macs that are regularly used for internet
access throughout the house, we¹ll make a simultaneous leap to 
wireless. I,
however, don¹t know much about it and would be very grateful for your 
advice
about what we need to buy in order to bring the following machines up 
to
speed:

1) PowerBook G4/667MHz/OS 10.2. (I¹m pretty sure this machine is 
³Airport
ready², but the card is probably 802.11b, right? I¹d probably want the 
newer
802.11g technology on this one. Is it difficult and/or expensive to
upgrade?)
2) iBook G3/700 MHz/OS 10.2. (This one doesn¹t appear to be ³Airport 
ready²,
but maybe I¹m not looking in the right places. We¹d want 802.11g for 
this
one as well.)
3) PowerBook G3 (Lombard)/400 MHz/OS 9.2.2 (Definitely not ³Airport 
ready².
This machine is used primarily for email so an 802.11b card should be
sufficient, if it can be fitted with one. If so, would the 802.11b 
card from
the G4 PowerBook work here?)
4) iMac/350 MHz/OS 9.2.2 (Definitely not ³Airport ready², but I guess 
this
would be the machine which would connected to the cable modem via 
Ethernet
anyway.)

Sorry, two of these machines would be O.T. for this list, but they¹ll 
all be
networked together. Comcast offers internet cable service in this area 
but I
need to make sure they¹re compatible with Airport.

Thanks for taking the time to consider our questions.
Greg
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and
those who can't.

802.11g will not work in your house because all of you machines cannot 
be fitted with an 802.11g card. If I wanted to go wireless with your 
machines this is what I would do. Because wifi systems can only go as 
fast as the slowest system connecting I would buy a cheap Linksys 
802.11b wireless router and access point.
With the Ti powerbook and the Lombard I would get a third party 802.11b 
card for the PCMCIA slot. The Ti book can use apples airport but were 
plagued with bad wifi reception.
With the iBook, I would just get an airport card.
With the iMac you have two option, you can either just plug it into the 
router or you can pay more money and get an airport card for it. I 
would just plug it into the router unless you don't want it in the room 
where the router is.
I hope that helps.


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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-14 Thread Laurent Daudelin 
On 14/07/04 09:31, "Greg Gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Since my daughter has decided to continue her college education online,
> we¹re finally going to make the leap from 56K to broadband, and to obviate
> running cables between the 4 Macs that are regularly used for internet
> access throughout the house, we¹ll make a simultaneous leap to wireless. I,
> however, don¹t know much about it and would be very grateful for your advice
> about what we need to buy in order to bring the following machines up to
> speed:
> 
> 1) PowerBook G4/667MHz/OS 10.2. (I¹m pretty sure this machine is ³Airport
> ready², but the card is probably 802.11b, right? I¹d probably want the newer
> 802.11g technology on this one. Is it difficult and/or expensive to
> upgrade?)
> 2) iBook G3/700 MHz/OS 10.2. (This one doesn¹t appear to be ³Airport ready²,
> but maybe I¹m not looking in the right places. We¹d want 802.11g for this
> one as well.)
> 3) PowerBook G3 (Lombard)/400 MHz/OS 9.2.2 (Definitely not ³Airport ready².
> This machine is used primarily for email so an 802.11b card should be
> sufficient, if it can be fitted with one. If so, would the 802.11b card from
> the G4 PowerBook work here?)
> 4) iMac/350 MHz/OS 9.2.2 (Definitely not ³Airport ready², but I guess this
> would be the machine which would connected to the cable modem via Ethernet
> anyway.)
> 
> Sorry, two of these machines would be O.T. for this list, but they¹ll all be
> networked together. Comcast offers internet cable service in this area but I
> need to make sure they¹re compatible with Airport.
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to consider our questions.
> 
> Greg
> 

Greg,

For all the above Mac, you will need a 802.11g PCMCIA card. You won't be
able to use an Apple AirPort Extreme card in those. However, the iBook and
the iMac don't have a slot for a PCMCIA card, so you'll never be able to
have 802.11g on those. The only option of the iBook is the regular Apple
AirPort card. The next problem you might face is the lack of a driver for
such a card. I don't know if there is any driver available either for 9 or
X. That might be your biggest problem.

-Laurent.
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Re: looking before leaping

2004-07-14 Thread support 
I'm using a G3 Lombard with a Cisco 350 802.11b (without antenna) in 
the PCMCIA slot. For the antenna, I found a model 278-844 
Range-Extender Antenna (there are two in the pack) for $20.00 at Radio 
Shack and the card works great in both OS X and OS 9.2.2. A bonus is 
the card also works if you have Virtual PC installed because Virtual PC 
uses the Mac side IP to connect to the network/internet.

When you get all your systems configured on your network, ensure you 
set your router up to accept both 802.11b and g. Most 802.11g routers 
default to accept on .11g hardware.

J.A. Clark
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On Wednesday, July 14, 2004, at 08:31 AM, Greg Gilmore wrote:
Since my daughter has decided to continue her college education online,
we¹re finally going to make the leap from 56K to broadband, and to 
obviate
running cables between the 4 Macs that are regularly used for internet
access throughout the house, we¹ll make a simultaneous leap to 
wireless. I,
however, don¹t know much about it and would be very grateful for your 
advice
about what we need to buy in order to bring the following machines up 
to
speed:

1) PowerBook G4/667MHz/OS 10.2. (I¹m pretty sure this machine is 
³Airport
ready², but the card is probably 802.11b, right? I¹d probably want the 
newer
802.11g technology on this one. Is it difficult and/or expensive to
upgrade?)
2) iBook G3/700 MHz/OS 10.2. (This one doesn¹t appear to be ³Airport 
ready²,
but maybe I¹m not looking in the right places. We¹d want 802.11g for 
this
one as well.)
3) PowerBook G3 (Lombard)/400 MHz/OS 9.2.2 (Definitely not ³Airport 
ready².
This machine is used primarily for email so an 802.11b card should be
sufficient, if it can be fitted with one. If so, would the 802.11b 
card from
the G4 PowerBook work here?)
4) iMac/350 MHz/OS 9.2.2 (Definitely not ³Airport ready², but I guess 
this
would be the machine which would connected to the cable modem via 
Ethernet
anyway.)

Sorry, two of these machines would be O.T. for this list, but they¹ll 
all be
networked together. Comcast offers internet cable service in this area 
but I
need to make sure they¹re compatible with Airport.

Thanks for taking the time to consider our questions.
Greg
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and
those who can't.

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looking before leaping

2004-07-14 Thread Greg Gilmore 
Since my daughter has decided to continue her college education online,
we¹re finally going to make the leap from 56K to broadband, and to obviate
running cables between the 4 Macs that are regularly used for internet
access throughout the house, we¹ll make a simultaneous leap to wireless. I,
however, don¹t know much about it and would be very grateful for your advice
about what we need to buy in order to bring the following machines up to
speed:

1) PowerBook G4/667MHz/OS 10.2. (I¹m pretty sure this machine is ³Airport
ready², but the card is probably 802.11b, right? I¹d probably want the newer
802.11g technology on this one. Is it difficult and/or expensive to
upgrade?)
2) iBook G3/700 MHz/OS 10.2. (This one doesn¹t appear to be ³Airport ready²,
but maybe I¹m not looking in the right places. We¹d want 802.11g for this
one as well.)
3) PowerBook G3 (Lombard)/400 MHz/OS 9.2.2 (Definitely not ³Airport ready².
This machine is used primarily for email so an 802.11b card should be
sufficient, if it can be fitted with one. If so, would the 802.11b card from
the G4 PowerBook work here?)
4) iMac/350 MHz/OS 9.2.2 (Definitely not ³Airport ready², but I guess this
would be the machine which would connected to the cable modem via Ethernet
anyway.)

Sorry, two of these machines would be O.T. for this list, but they¹ll all be
networked together. Comcast offers internet cable service in this area but I
need to make sure they¹re compatible with Airport.

Thanks for taking the time to consider our questions.

Greg

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those who can't.


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