Re: Safari 4.0
On 6/19/09 11:00 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Broadcast into the ether: Nope, it means that there's a bug affecting Leo users only... -- Bruce Johnson Yep. And I recommend using Firefox instead of Safari anyway. Security, stability and a host of other reasons. -- Kyle H. If you are in the fast lane and getting passed on the right, you are a Jerk. That lever on the left side of your steering column is for your turn signals. Heard of them before? Use them. It lets ME know what YOU want to do, thus protecting YOU. If you don't use them you are are a Triple Jerk for risking the lives of yourselves, your children, other drivers, me, my family etc. If you text while driving you will inevitably get into an accident and are a gigantic Jerk and could kill a non Jerk. Tailgaters are JerksŠunless you are in the parking lot of a sporting event (then you rock). Don't be a Jerk... Unless it Involves a BBQ and a sporting event. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Photo App. suggestion
On 6/19/09 4:01 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Broadcast into the ether: Yeesh...If iPhoto's out of the question, just about anything else I can think of is, too. Google has Picasa for the Mac out now :http://picasa.google.com/mac/] There's Adobe photoshop Elements, but if iPhoto's too complex, then PE is, too. Flickr offers some online editing tools. -- Bruce Johnson Yes. I was going to recommend an iPhoto organizational system with Graphic Converter for editing combo. Off to Flickr you go. -- Kyle H. If you are in the fast lane and getting passed on the right, you are a Jerk. That lever on the left side of your steering column is for your turn signals. Heard of them before? Use them. It lets ME know what YOU want to do, thus protecting YOU. If you don't use them you are are a Triple Jerk for risking the lives of yourselves, your children, other drivers, me, my family etc. If you text while driving you will inevitably get into an accident and are a gigantic Jerk and could kill a non Jerk. Tailgaters are JerksŠunless you are in the parking lot of a sporting event (then you rock). Don't be a Jerk... Unless it Involves a BBQ and a sporting event. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Dell 24 monitor on sale for $219--good deal or no?
Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/6pja7n. Does Dell make good quality monitors? Anybody got one of these, and can report on it? Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dell 24 monitor on sale for $219--good deal or no?
Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/6pja7n. Does Dell make good quality monitors? Anybody got one of these, and can report on it? Tom Can't speak to the quality of this specific model. I do have the DELL 2405FPW and I am very happy with it, been 3-4 years and not a problem. I paid about $450, I got a deal then. mark ray bluellama...@embarqmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Photo App. suggestion
On 6/19/09 4:16 PM, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com Broadcast into the ether: I use Photoshop or GraphicConverter for editing (GC is pretty simple and you can download a demo), and iViewMedia Pro for organizing (purchase way before M$ bought it!) Diane I think I have an older copy of Photoshop I could give you. If you are interested in image editing..I am distracted at the moment...but I have several versions of legitimate old copies of Photoshop that you could just have if you buy the stamp...contact me offlist if Photoshop would help. Graphic converter is great too. -- Kyle H. If you are in the fast lane and getting passed on the right, you are a Jerk. That lever on the left side of your steering column is for your turn signals. Heard of them before? Use them. It lets ME know what YOU want to do, thus protecting YOU. If you don't use them you are are a Triple Jerk for risking the lives of yourselves, your children, other drivers, me, my family etc. If you text while driving you will inevitably get into an accident and are a gigantic Jerk and could kill a non Jerk. Tailgaters are JerksŠunless you are in the parking lot of a sporting event (then you rock). Don't be a Jerk... Unless it Involves a BBQ and a sporting event. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Orig. Airport card vs. PCI wireless card
On 19/06/09 10:11 PM, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: new to this topic. perhaps i missed it in the deluge of replies, but it seems no one addressed the point of cost vs protocol (b or n). you said in your original post that you'll be using it with an airport extreme base station, but you neglected to say what other computers/ peripherals are connected to the base station. if all you are doing is connecting the base station to a DSL modem or a shared printer, and to other computers which are basically independent clients of the DSL and/or printer, then the older, cheaper, 802.11b card is already faster than the DSL, and probably faster than the printer, so you won't see any discernible difference in performance. on the other hand, if you are multi-tasking jobs, parallel processing, or otherwise transferring large amounts of data or huge files between computers constantly, then the faster card (n designation) will seem like day and night. The base station is connected to my DSL modem and my HP laserjet printer. I have one Macbook Pro and G3 iBook connected via Airport to the base station as well as a dual core G5 and an IBM PC with XP. I'm going to also connect my BW via ethernet to act as a central backup system/print server (inkjet printer). The Airport card or 3rd party PCI card will be for my daughter's G4 that I just upgraded. I'll be using Tiger and Leopard among the Mac systems. The price itself is not a factor since either one will cost the same. I just wanted to know if people experienced problems using a PCI wireless card either with Airport drivers or 3rd party OS X drivers. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Orig. Airport card vs. PCI wireless card
On 20/06/09 12:21 AM, iJohn zjboyguard-ggro...@yahoo.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:11 PM, ah...clemboneheads...@gmail.com wrote: new to this topic. perhaps i missed it in the deluge of replies, but it seems no one addressed the point of cost vs protocol (b or n). if all you are doing is connecting the base station to a DSL modem or a shared printer, and to other computers which are basically independent clients of the DSL and/or printer, then the older, cheaper, 802.11b card is already faster than the DSL, and probably faster than the printer, so you won't see any discernible difference in performance. I think I understand the point you're trying to make, but I also think I disagree with it. While on paper an 802.11b connection may be more than enough to handle the throughput of a DSL connection, it also doesn't leave a lot of buffer space. If the computer is always going to be 10 feet from the router with no signal barriers and the max throughput will always be limited to that of a DSL connection, then wireless b may be fine. But what if he decides to move the router or computer so they are now separated by a room or two or three. Suddenly what was borderline adequate becomes noticeably inadequate. Another reason IMO to avoid these ancient 802.11b devices is because the only security they may support is WEP. WEP has become such a joke that I believe no one bothers to talk about how to hack it. Instead they focus on finding the *fastest* way to hack it. There are how to articles out there you can easily find with Google. NEVER buy more horsepower than you are actually using right now. if you ever need more in the future, it will be cheaper (and probably better) then. Trying to go for the tightest fit to your current needs can also be a false economy. I think a better metric is the cost at the margin. If it costs you 5-10% more beyond your base cost to increase your performance by more than 100% then it may well be worth it to do that. Penny wise versus pound foolish and all that. I really don't know if I'd recommend that the OP go with wireless n at this point. He's never really said much about what he expects his network to look like. But at this point in time I also couldn't justify going with b unless the adapter is a total freebie and he has absolutely no concerns about who hacks into his wireless. A good enough g adapter is just not that expensive these days. -irrational john OP here, you make some very valid points IJ. As for the g adapters, they were about the same price as the n so was thinking why go with g when you can get n for the same price. My last post outlined my network. The G4 will be in the same room as the router so there won't be any concerns with distance. Again it's for my daughter's G4 and it's so she can play the online edutainment games and talk to her godmother in San Diego via Skype or iChat. I guess in terms of security you make a good point about WEP. I may go with the PCI card then. Thanks folks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: last question re: Orig. Airport card vs. PCI wireless card
On Jun 20, 2009, at 5:52 AM, Arnel Tuazon wrote: Someone mentioned Broadcom chipset and it using Airport as the driver. Is this true for any wireless adapter? As long as it has a Broadcom chipset I can just use Apple's Airport to connect to the base station? There's a script available that will add most of the 3rd party wireless adapter support into the Apple extension so that Broadcom chipset adapters are recognized as Airport (meaning they are fully OEM identical to Apple Airport products in usage). See this page for the script and info: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=51725 The current script is called bcm43xx_enabler_0.5.3.sh.zip and is listed at the bottom of the page for download (you may need to register to download the file). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Replacing original processor with upgrade card
On 6/19/09 1:54 PM, Jonas Ulrich at jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: You PAID an apple technician to replace the processor you can get 733 processors on ebay for around 20, and it is the easiest thing to install. How much did you pay the tech guy? OWC processor upgrades are pretty pricey. Question: is there ZIF processor upgardes for Beige G3 still around? -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Photo App. suggestion
On 6/19/09 8:16 PM, diane at di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: I use Photoshop or GraphicConverter for editing I've got GraphicConverter here, and it is one of the few sharewares that I would willingly pay for! -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Photo App. suggestion
On 6/20/09 3:24 AM, Kyle Hansen at pi...@speakeasy.net wrote: I think I have an older copy of Photoshop I could give you. As a runner of Mac OS 10.4, I still use sometimes the old Photoshop 3.0 to make quick, simple image editing. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Replacing original processor with upgrade card
Question: is there ZIF processor upgardes for Beige G3 still around? Yes. Sonnet Encore/ZIF G4 I have one that I used in my Beige for years. It also fits the BW that I am currently using. I bought mine at OWC. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: PRAM battery?
If you have an accessible cold water ground, and that cold water system is continuous throughout the premises, you have some hope of the ground being reasonably low resistance. I'm in need of some education here. Why is it necessary to consider the resistance of the ground? Thanks, Larry Eden --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Photo App. suggestion
Gimp on OS X http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/Overview.html is worth a try. And it's free. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4.0
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Dandantear...@gmail.com wrote: What inputmanagers, plug-ins, etc have you installed? Does the problem still occur when you eliminate them? Does this help? If you see something you think is worth taking the time to try omitting I might try it. But I'm not eager to try eliminating anything in /Library just to see what happens ... In my experience, simply trying it is not sufficient to test for this problem. It's intermittent. It works fine and then it doesn't. Whatever the pattern might be I haven't picked up on it. bash-3.2# ls -l /Library/InputManagers total 0 drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 136 May 26 2008 LCC Scroll Enhancer Loader bash-3.2# ls -l /Library/Internet?Plug-Ins total 48 drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 Mar 22 23:14 AdobePDFViewer.plugin drwxrwxrwx 2 GhostMonk admin68 Feb 27 10:08 Disabled Plug-Ins drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 May 13 02:51 Flash Player.plugin drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 Aug 15 2008 Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 Aug 15 2008 Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.webplugin lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin76 Jun 16 01:15 JavaPluginCocoa.bundle - /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Resources/JavaPluginCocoa.bundle -rwxrwxr-x@ 1 root admin 4752 Feb 7 2006 NP-PPC-Dir-Shockwave drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 Sep 24 2007 Quartz Composer.webplugin drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 Jun 18 23:22 QuickTime Plugin.plugin drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 Jun 14 2008 QuickTime Plugin.webplugin drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 Jan 15 08:21 Silverlight.plugin drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 Dec 12 2007 VerifiedDownloadPlugin.plugin -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 856 Feb 5 22:12 flashplayer.xpt drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin 102 Jul 14 2008 iPhotoPhotocast.plugin -rw-rw-r-- 1 root admin 2394 May 27 21:43 nsIQTScriptablePlugin.xpt bash-3.2# ls -l /Users/GhostMonk/Library/InputManagers ls: /Users/GhostMonk/Library/InputManagers: No such file or directory bash-3.2# ls -l /Users/GhostMonk/Library/Internet?Plug-Ins total 0 drwxr-xr-x 3 GhostMonk admin 102 Mar 9 13:28 Move-Media-Player.plugin bash-3.2# --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: last question re: Orig. Airport card vs. PCI wireless card
I have a question on this. Does anyone know of a good pci card that supports wireless N that is recognized as an airport extreme card to os x? If you know it, I would like the make, and model of the card. Thank you in advance. =) On Jun 20, 2009, at 6:02 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 20, 2009, at 5:52 AM, Arnel Tuazon wrote: Someone mentioned Broadcom chipset and it using Airport as the driver. Is this true for any wireless adapter? As long as it has a Broadcom chipset I can just use Apple's Airport to connect to the base station? There's a script available that will add most of the 3rd party wireless adapter support into the Apple extension so that Broadcom chipset adapters are recognized as Airport (meaning they are fully OEM identical to Apple Airport products in usage). See this page for the script and info: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=51725 The current script is called bcm43xx_enabler_0.5.3.sh.zip and is listed at the bottom of the page for download (you may need to register to download the file). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Replacing original processor with upgrade card
On Jun 19, 11:54 am, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: You PAID an apple technician to replace the processor Actually, that happened about five or so years ago. It was my only computer and I didn't know what was wrong with it. I was really hesitant to get into something like that myself. I did put more memory and a card in it, but, to me, replacing the processor was a bit too much at that time. Now I have a two more Macs I can use as backups, and I regularly synchronize the main Mac to an external HD as well as a DVD backup. Fred --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: PRAM battery?
On Jun 20, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: If you have an accessible cold water ground, and that cold water system is continuous throughout the premises, you have some hope of the ground being reasonably low resistance. I'm in need of some education here. Why is it necessary to consider the resistance of the ground? Thanks, Larry Eden I'm a layman when it comes to electrical things, but, AFAIK, electricity likes to travel the path of least resistance ... if it had to choose me or a cold water pipe, it would probably choose me if I were as grounded as the cold water pipe. and that cold water system is continuous throughout the premises AFAIK, again ... the more contacts with the ground, as in Mother Earth, the more likely it is to choose her. Better her than me. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dell 24 monitor on sale for $219--good deal or no?
Not that good. I recently got a Hanns-G 22 for $160 (Newegg, I think), and it's just spectacular. Samsung, which seems to be at or near the gold standard in this category, is also showing up well under $200 at Costco. I almost wish I'd waited. Be sure you need all 24 inches -- 22 is really big. Compared to my old 17-inch CRT, it feels like home theater. On Jun 20, 1:17 am, mark ray bluellama...@embarqmail.com wrote: Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/6pja7n. Does Dell make good quality monitors? Anybody got one of these, and can report on it? Tom Can't speak to the quality of this specific model. I do have the DELL 2405FPW and I am very happy with it, been 3-4 years and not a problem. I paid about $450, I got a deal then. mark ray bluellama...@embarqmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
How to install Starcraft
I've tried to install Starcraft on my Digital Audio G4. I try to run the installer program from the CD and I get an error message saying I need to run the program from the original CD, which is in the machine and on the desktop. I am running OS X 10.4.11. I have installed 1.6Mhz processor upgrade. When I installed it I ran the installation CD which came with it and apparently I didn't update the rom so it will boot into OS 9. It will run OS 9 from OS X. I'm not sure what this has to do with it. Like I say I am getting an error message telling me to install from the Starcraft CD, which is what I'm running the installation program from. Thanks I forgot my handle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to install Starcraft
--- On Sat, 6/20/09, m.smurph001 m.smurph...@gmail.com wrote: From: m.smurph001 m.smurph...@gmail.com Subject: How to install Starcraft To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 10:15 AM I've tried to install Starcraft on my Digital Audio G4. I try to run the installer program from the CD and I get an error message saying I need to run the program from the original CD, which is in the machine and on the desktop. I am running OS X 10.4.11. I have installed 1.6Mhz processor upgrade. When I installed it I ran the installation CD which came with it and apparently I didn't update the rom so it will boot into OS 9. It will run OS 9 from OS X. I'm not sure what this has to do with it. Like I say I am getting an error message telling me to install from the Starcraft CD, which is what I'm running the installation program from. Thanks I forgot my handle = What 1.6Mhz processor upgrade did you install on your DA? Mel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to install Starcraft
On Jun 20, 2009, at 1:15 PM, m.smurph001 wrote: I've tried to install Starcraft on my Digital Audio G4. I try to run the installer program from the CD and I get an error message saying I need to run the program from the original CD, which is in the machine and on the desktop. I am running OS X 10.4.11. I have installed 1.6Mhz processor upgrade. When I installed it I ran the installation CD which came with it and apparently I didn't update the rom so it will boot into OS 9. It will run OS 9 from OS X. I'm not sure what this has to do with it. Like I say I am getting an error message telling me to install from the Starcraft CD, which is what I'm running the installation program from. I don't know anything about Starcraft ... but is it an OS 9 application? Most often you need to be booted into OS 9 to install something for OS 9. Classic OS 9 does not/may not work ... Classic OS 9 is not the same thing as being booted into OS 9 when it comes to installations. Now sometimes it does work ... but reread the documentation, and if it says you need to be booted into OS 9 ... then ... Then there's the OS 9 large drive limitations if you're running one 128GB under OS X ... Just some thoughts ... wait for a guru or Starcraftier person ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to install Starcraft
Starcraft was released way back in the day before OSX even existed, however blizzard did release a Native OSX installer a few years back. You can find it via a quick google search under the words Starcraft OSX Installer. Another option would be to goto battle.net and create an account. After you create your account register your Starcraft CD key online.This will allow you to download the starcraft game completely to your hard drive without the need for a CD or ISO mounted. On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:46 AM, insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.netwrote: On Jun 20, 2009, at 1:15 PM, m.smurph001 wrote: I've tried to install Starcraft on my Digital Audio G4. I try to run the installer program from the CD and I get an error message saying I need to run the program from the original CD, which is in the machine and on the desktop. I am running OS X 10.4.11. I have installed 1.6Mhz processor upgrade. When I installed it I ran the installation CD which came with it and apparently I didn't update the rom so it will boot into OS 9. It will run OS 9 from OS X. I'm not sure what this has to do with it. Like I say I am getting an error message telling me to install from the Starcraft CD, which is what I'm running the installation program from. I don't know anything about Starcraft ... but is it an OS 9 application? Most often you need to be booted into OS 9 to install something for OS 9. Classic OS 9 does not/may not work ... Classic OS 9 is not the same thing as being booted into OS 9 when it comes to installations. Now sometimes it does work ... but reread the documentation, and if it says you need to be booted into OS 9 ... then ... Then there's the OS 9 large drive limitations if you're running one 128GB under OS X ... Just some thoughts ... wait for a guru or Starcraftier person ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Steve Jobs had liver transplant
Reports: Apple CEO Steve Jobs had liver transplant By CANDICE CHOI – 1 hour ago NEW YORK (AP) — Apple Inc. co-founder and CEO Steve Jobs, whose recovery from pancreatic cancer appeared less certain when he had to take medical leave in January, received a liver transplant two months ago but is recovering well, The Wall Street Journal reported Saturday. The newspaper didn't reveal a source for the report, which comes as Jobs, 54, is expected back in his day-to-day duties at the company shortly. CNBC said later that it had confirmed the Journal's account, which said Jobs had the transplant performed in Tennessee. Apple spokesman Steve Dowling told The Associated Press he had no comment. Dowling reiterated what has become Apple's standard line about the CEO's health, that Steve continues to look forward to returning to Apple at the end of June and there is nothing further to say. Few CEOs are considered as instrumental to their companies as Jobs has been to Apple since he returned in 1997 after a 12-year hiatus. With Jobs serving as head showman and demanding elegance in product design, Apple has expanded from a niche computer maker to become the dominant producer of portable music players and a huge player in the cell phone business. News and rumors about his health send Apple stock soaring or plunging. Jobs disclosed in August 2004 that he had been diagnosed with — and cured of — a rare form of pancreatic cancer called an islet cell neuroendocrine tumor. According to the National Institutes of Health, treatment for that form of pancreatic cancer can include the removal of a portion of the liver if the cancer spreads. The cancer is curable if the tumors are removed before they spread to other organs. It's likely that Jobs had part or all of his pancreas removed to cure his cancer in 2004, said Dr. Lewis Teperman, vice chair of surgery and director of transplantation at NYU Langone Medical Center in New York City. Patients who have part or all of their pancreas removed usually get diabetes, which is treated with medication. Patients often lose weight as a result as well. After the pancreas, the liver is the next stop for a tumor since blood drains from the one organ to the other, said Teperman, who did not treat Jobs. Since the type of pancreatic cancer Jobs had is slow growing, it's likely microscopic cells went undetected and traveled to the liver, Teperman said. Tumors often stop at the liver, he said, although it's possible they can spread beyond it. The risk for liver cancer patients who get transplants is that the cancer will return in the new liver. This can happen if undetected cancer cells are hiding out elsewhere in the body, Teperman said. He said there's no way to predict the likelihood of this occurring without knowing the extent of the initial cancer. The five-year survival rate for organ transplants is around 75 percent, but falls among older recipients, according to the United Network for Organ Sharing, which manages transplants in the U.S. Transplant patients must take medications for the rest of their lives to prevent rejection. Since there is no residency requirement for transplants, Jobs might have traveled to Tennessee to shorten his wait for a liver. According to the organ network, there were 295 newly listed patients in Tennessee last year and 1,615 in California. Wait times for transplants depend on the urgency of the patient's condition. Those in most critical need generally get transplanted within 10 days regardless of geography, said Joel Newman, a UNOS spokesman. For less urgent cases, however, he said there's a greater variance in wait times, depending on a person's location. Shorter waiting lists aren't the only reason to travel for a transplant, however. A lot of people who travel for a transplant will look at the center's survival rate or whether it specializes in certain conditions, Newman said. Jobs' gaunt appearance last year fueled speculation that his health was worsening. On Jan. 5 of this year, he said he had a treatable hormone imbalance and that he would continue to run the company. The following week, however, Jobs went on leave and said his medical problems were more complex than he had thought. Apple's chief operating officer, Tim Cook, took over daily duties. Speculation about Jobs' health has been fueled by the Cupertino, Calif.-based company's practice of keeping such information under wraps. Apple waited until after Jobs underwent his cancer surgery in 2004 before alerting investors. Last summer, the company insisted his thinner appearance was due to a common bug. After Apple announced Jobs' medical leave in January, the company's shares slid 7 percent to $79.15, near a 52-week low. Since then, however, as Apple's business has remained sturdy even in the recession, and investors have become comfortable with Cook leading the daily operations, Apple shares have been among the best
Re: Steve Jobs had liver transplant
On Jun 20, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Bruce wrote: Reports: Apple CEO Steve Jobs had liver transplant I think about the two livers wasted on Mickey Mantle, the selfishness. As I understand it now, Steve Jobs gamed the system by going to Tennessee, the state with the shortest liver transplant waiting list, rather than waiting in line in his home state of California. If this is true, perhaps he should consider moving himself and Apple to Tennessee once he recovers? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs had liver transplant
On Jun 20, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: Reports: Apple CEO Steve Jobs had liver transplant I think about the two livers wasted on Mickey Mantle, the selfishness. As I understand it now, Steve Jobs gamed the system by going to Tennessee, the state with the shortest liver transplant waiting list, rather than waiting in line in his home state of California. If this is true, perhaps he should consider moving himself and Apple to Tennessee once he recovers? I don't see this as gaming as the UNOS system is supposed to provide organs to the most needy applicable patients, not the patients which are particularly situated in certain under-served states. Otherwise, everyone needing an organ would be moving to Tennessee. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs had liver transplant
If I would need a transplant I also would go to the Hospital with the shortest waiting list. Nothing wrong with that. Sent with my mobile device --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs had liver transplant
I wouldn't mind, I live here... :) On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Kris Tilfordktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jun 20, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Bruce wrote: Reports: Apple CEO Steve Jobs had liver transplant I think about the two livers wasted on Mickey Mantle, the selfishness. As I understand it now, Steve Jobs gamed the system by going to Tennessee, the state with the shortest liver transplant waiting list, rather than waiting in line in his home state of California. If this is true, perhaps he should consider moving himself and Apple to Tennessee once he recovers? -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro/Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Dual upgrade for Digital Audio
A couple of years back I was in contact with a guy on this forum or another Mac forum who said that you could put a dual 933mhz CPU board into a G4 Digital Audio. Anyone know anything about that? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual upgrade for Digital Audio
On Jun 20, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Matthew Burks wrote: A couple of years back I was in contact with a guy on this forum or another Mac forum who said that you could put a dual 933mhz CPU board into a G4 Digital Audio. Anyone know anything about that? Apple made two fast dual processor boards which are usable on Digital Audios: dual 800 MHz (QS 2001) and dual 1.0 GHz (QS 2002). Both of these required a special power cable adapter. Apple also made a slow dual processor board for a Digital Audio: dual 533 MHz (DA). This did not require any power adapter. I can see no way that a dual 533 could be run at 933. It is theoretically possible to down-clock an 1000 or overclock an 800. However, although the dual 800 and the dual 1000 processors were made using the very same raw board, there are major differences between the dual 800 and the dual 1000. The components which are apparently missing on a dual 800 are present on a dual 1000, and the components which are apparently missing on a dual 1000 are present on a dual 800. In this way, Apple make it impossible to convert a dual 800 to a dual 1000 (or any frequency above 800), or to convert a dual 1000 to a dual 800 (or any frequency below 1000). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual upgrade for Digital Audio
I've heard of people, and know some people who run quicksilver dual processors in digital audio powermacs. -Jonas On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM, PeterHpeterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote: On Jun 20, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Matthew Burks wrote: A couple of years back I was in contact with a guy on this forum or another Mac forum who said that you could put a dual 933mhz CPU board into a G4 Digital Audio. Anyone know anything about that? Apple made two fast dual processor boards which are usable on Digital Audios: dual 800 MHz (QS 2001) and dual 1.0 GHz (QS 2002). Both of these required a special power cable adapter. Apple also made a slow dual processor board for a Digital Audio: dual 533 MHz (DA). This did not require any power adapter. I can see no way that a dual 533 could be run at 933. It is theoretically possible to down-clock an 1000 or overclock an 800. However, although the dual 800 and the dual 1000 processors were made using the very same raw board, there are major differences between the dual 800 and the dual 1000. The components which are apparently missing on a dual 800 are present on a dual 1000, and the components which are apparently missing on a dual 1000 are present on a dual 800. In this way, Apple make it impossible to convert a dual 800 to a dual 1000 (or any frequency above 800), or to convert a dual 1000 to a dual 800 (or any frequency below 1000). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual upgrade for Digital Audio
So what would I need to purchase to make my 533mhz a dual 800mhz or dual 1000mhz? On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 6:03 PM, PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote: On Jun 20, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Matthew Burks wrote: A couple of years back I was in contact with a guy on this forum or another Mac forum who said that you could put a dual 933mhz CPU board into a G4 Digital Audio. Anyone know anything about that? Apple made two fast dual processor boards which are usable on Digital Audios: dual 800 MHz (QS 2001) and dual 1.0 GHz (QS 2002). Both of these required a special power cable adapter. Apple also made a slow dual processor board for a Digital Audio: dual 533 MHz (DA). This did not require any power adapter. I can see no way that a dual 533 could be run at 933. It is theoretically possible to down-clock an 1000 or overclock an 800. However, although the dual 800 and the dual 1000 processors were made using the very same raw board, there are major differences between the dual 800 and the dual 1000. The components which are apparently missing on a dual 800 are present on a dual 1000, and the components which are apparently missing on a dual 1000 are present on a dual 800. In this way, Apple make it impossible to convert a dual 800 to a dual 1000 (or any frequency above 800), or to convert a dual 1000 to a dual 800 (or any frequency below 1000). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual upgrade for Digital Audio
On Jun 20, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I've heard of people, and know some people who run quicksilver dual processors in digital audio powermacs. Easy as pie, provided you make your own +12 volt power adapter cable. A QS 2001 dual 800 MHz processor will run at 800 MHz on a Digital Audio. A QS 2002 dual 1000 MHz processor will run at 1000 MHz on a Digital Audio. So far, I have four dual 1000 MHz DAs in-house, although three of these have been replaced by very fast Hackintoshes, most running way in excess of 3000 MHz, often with four processors. http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual upgrade for Digital Audio
On Jun 20, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Matthew Burks wrote: So what would I need to purchase to make my 533mhz a dual 800mhz or dual 1000mhz? You would need, at a very minimum: 1) a dual 800 or dual 1000 processor, 2) a matching heatsink, 3) a Quicksilver-type fan unit (the DA-type fan unit is not usable), and 4) a special cable which accepts +12 volts and +12 volts return from an available hard drive connector and provides: 4a) +12 volts to the fifth hole in the QS processor, 4b) +12 volts to the QS fan unit, and 4c) +12 volts return to the QS fan unit. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual upgrade for Digital Audio
On Jun 20, 2009, at 4:17 PM, insightinmind wrote: In researching my new DA, I ran across this LEM article that talks a little about a Dual 533 being incorrectly reported as a Dual 933: http://lowendmac.com/ppc/digital-audio-power-mac-g4.html To quote: At least one version of OS X reports the dual 533 MHz Digital Audio Power Mac as a dual 933 MHz G4 (11.3). There never was a 933 MHz dual G4 from Apple. Period. End of story! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Photo App. suggestion
On 6/19/09 7:01 PM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent On Jun 19, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Dana Collins wrote: my daughter would like to conduct some simple organizing of her photos, maybe a touch up here or there, and was quite flustered trying to use iPhoto. Are there any simple apps out there for easy-to-use situations? To give you a reference, she used HP's PhotoSmart LE and liked it; I got her to switch to Mac (got her a Sawtooth w/ 500MHz CPU running Tiger), and she likes that, but now needs this photo utility to fill in the gap. Yeesh...If iPhoto's out of the question, just about anything else I can think of is, too. Google has Picasa for the Mac out now :http://picasa.google.com/mac/] There's Adobe photoshop Elements, but if iPhoto's too complex, then PE is, too. Flickr offers some online editing tools. Thanks to all who contributed a response - I am seeing my daughter tomorrow to find out what the issue with iPhoto is not recognizing JPEG photo library, according to her). Frankly, I do not think it is an editing issue, but rather a tactile one (she doesn't like the feel of it) or a directory issue (doesn't like the way it organizes). As a Dad I can also say there may be a patience issue, but that's another story altogether, not Mac-related! Best regards, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual upgrade for Digital Audio
On Jun 20, 2009, at 7:03 PM, PeterH wrote: On Jun 20, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Matthew Burks wrote: A couple of years back I was in contact with a guy on this forum or another Mac forum who said that you could put a dual 933mhz CPU board into a G4 Digital Audio. Anyone know anything about that? Apple made two fast dual processor boards which are usable on Digital Audios: dual 800 MHz (QS 2001) and dual 1.0 GHz (QS 2002). Both of these required a special power cable adapter. He might have been talking about 3rd party upgrades. According to everymac.com http://www.everymac.com/upgrade_cards/powerlogix/powerforce_g4_133/powerforce_g4_133_933_dual.html or http://tinyurl.com/g2qm2 Powerlogix made a dual 933 back in 2003 and probably into 2004. FWIW, I have a Powerlogix dual 1.2GHz in my DA (originally a 533) running Leopard. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4.0
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Dandantear...@gmail.com wrote: Think isn't good enough. Be specific. Try it. You're talking about a GMail function failing on two totally different platforms (Safari/WebKit vs Firefox/Gecko), and to be frank, that just doesn't make sense. I'm sorry that the bugs that happen to hit me don't bother to make sense for you. FWIW, it doesn't make any sense to me either. And I'd just as soon *not* be experiencing this. Oh, well. And while this may or may not be true, from my naive way of viewing things, it's now gone to potentially *three* totally different platforms. I just ... as in just now a few minutes ago ... experienced the same problem with Firefox 3.0.11 running in 64-bit Windows 7 on my desktop machine, a Core 2 Duo E4300 in a Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 with 4GB of RAM. At least we know it's not anything specific to a Mac or a MacBook now ... I still have no idea what the problem is, but I'm guessing it lives somewhere in the upper bowels of Google's gmail implementation. -irrational john --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
GeForce4 MX Core Image Support (Not?)
I recently put my GeForce4 MX in my new Digital Audio Dual 533, and was at least expecting Software Support for Core Image. Running Tiger 10.4.11, with PCI Extreme (from a previous setup), now set back to AGP. But no. When I restart into my Leopard 10.5.7 clone partition, is says Core Image Support, but I don't get any ripple effects when playing with adding Widgets to the Dashboard. Could someone explain what I am missing ... a GPU on the 4MX? I've googled, and started a dead end thread on nvidia's forum. Any G3-G5 help out there? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dual upgrade for Digital Audio
On Jun 20, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Powerlogix made a dual 933 back in 2003 and probably into 2004. FWIW, I have a Powerlogix dual 1.2GHz in my DA (originally a 533) running Leopard. Sounds right. Right now, Freescale is making 1.4 MHz and slower G4s, and that's about all. Gone are the days of factory 1.5, 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 GHz G4s Any faster ones are overclocked chips which have been hand-selected by the OEM vendor. There is always a sweet spot for price-performance. At one point, this was 1.2 GHz on third party single G4 replacement processors for 100 and 133 MHz bus G4s. At that particular point, I elected to go with dual 1.0 GHz Apple Quicksilver 2002 processors, and I was not disappointed. That is, until the Intels came out. I mean, of course, the Hackintosh Intels, not the Mackintosh Intels. After numerous benchmarks of various kinds of CD and DVD authoring and duplication, it came down to these basic stats: 1) a greater than 4.7 GB DVD compressed down to within a 4.7 GB DVD in about 60 minutes, using a dual 1.0 GHz G4 Mackintosh under Tiger (10.4.11), and 2) a greater than 4.7 GB DVD compressed down to within a 4.7 GB DVD in about 12.5 minutes, using a dual 3.6 GHz C2D or a 3.2 GHz C2Q Hackintosh, under Leopard (10.5.6 or 10.5.7). With a nearly five-to-one advantage (wall clock time) in favor of Hackintoshes, I converted all my CD and DVD work over to Hacks. I still have one dual 1.0 GHz G4 Mack in use, primarily for Mail.app and also for running the Classic versions of Photoshop and Acrobat creator. Everything else goes on the Hacks. Also, I have gone away from my 500 MHz Pismo with 1 GB of RAM. I am now using a OCZ Neutrino (Intel Atom-based build it yourself Netbook) with 2.0 GB of RAM, built-in WiFi, built-in iCam, built-in card reader, builtin Express-34 slot for Firewire and eSATA expansion, and all the other goodies one expects from a Netbook running Leopard 10.5.7. http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
