Can I just transfer SATA drives from my 1.8 GHz to my 2.0 GHz Dual?
Just got this 2.0, giving the 1.8 to my sister. I hope this will increase the speed; Activity Monitor is often at 100% of CPU. I do have a habit of having dozens of web tabs open, plus several other apps. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I just transfer SATA drives from my 1.8 GHz to my 2.0 GHz Dual?
On Jul 2, 2009, at 9:04 AM, nick wrote: Just got this 2.0, giving the 1.8 to my sister. I hope this will increase the speed; Activity Monitor is often at 100% of CPU. I do have a habit of having dozens of web tabs open, plus several other apps. What is this, a Slashdot brag? Anyway, yes, you can just pull the drive and put it in your new Mac. And yes, it will help with speed, depending on what is in the tabs and the apps. Some apps will use all available processor speed and will peg Activity Monitor no matter what processor is running. They will just finish a lot sooner (depending upon which 1.8 you have, at least 50% sooner). Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DSL in Arroyo Grande Mesa
On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:07 PM, Mullin9 wrote: Dear Sir I'm a Mac G4 owner, on a Dial-up Living in Arroyo Grande CA, On Willow RD, by HW 1 turnoff, Is there's a DSL Connection that reach 6-8 miles south of Arroyo Grande CA? The place to start would be with your phone companyit's their lines any DSL will be carried on, regardless of who offers it. They can tell you if you even qualify for DSL (18,000 feet from switch, no more than one analog-digital transition.) On my phone company's website (Qwest, you probably have Pac Bell?) there's a form you can enter your phone # and see if it qualifies for DSL. If it qualifies, you may have your choice of ISP's. If not you need to look into something else, like cable, satellite or cellular service. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Replacing crimped mobo ATA cable
Ins/Outs of replacing a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz onboard ATA cable? Need to replace mine. Where best to find one ... online, local ... Best?: Ultra DMA 80 wire / 40 pin, Short: 6in ... With / Without CS slit? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
10.5 in older machines question
Hello, If I install 10.5 on a hard drive in an MDD, then remove that hard drive and put it in a 733 QS or a 733 DA, what would happen? Would 10.5 now boot and run on the QS and DA? Thanks, Bruce S. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.5 in older machines question
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Brucebsugarb...@core.com wrote: Hello, If I install 10.5 on a hard drive in an MDD, then remove that hard drive and put it in a 733 QS or a 733 DA, what would happen? Would 10.5 now boot and run on the QS and DA? Thanks, Bruce S. It should work. I installed 10.5 on an external disk from an Ibook G4 and then booted a Sawtooth on it for over a year as the primary drive. An internal drive should work the same way. hope that helps - Marty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.5 in older machines question
On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:30 PM, Bruce wrote: Hello, If I install 10.5 on a hard drive in an MDD, then remove that hard drive and put it in a 733 QS or a 733 DA, what would happen? Would 10.5 now boot and run on the QS and DA? Thanks, Bruce S. I have a cloned 10.5.7 running fine on my Digital Audio Dual 533. Just cloned it from a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz installation. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Replacing crimped mobo ATA cable
On Jul 2, 6:52 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: Ins/Outs of replacing a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz onboard ATA cable? Need to replace mine. Where best to find one ... online, local ... Best?: Ultra DMA 80 wire / 40 pin, Short: 6in ... With / Without CS slit? I use cables without the slit, never had problems. You should be able to find them easily since the are stock pc (not Apple oem) cables: http://cgi.ebay.com/IDE-HARD-DRIVE-ATA133-CABLE-HIGH-DENSITY-6-INCH_W0QQitemZ170338067481QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Cables_Adapters?hash=item27a8f0a419_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116 The link is just a reference example, I'm not endorsing the website or the seller. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Replacing crimped mobo ATA cable
On Jul 2, 2009, at 9:49 PM, dc wrote: On Jul 2, 6:52 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: Ins/Outs of replacing a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz onboard ATA cable? Need to replace mine. Where best to find one ... online, local ... Best?: Ultra DMA 80 wire / 40 pin, Short: 6in ... With / Without CS slit? I found these candidates (all seem to be 80 wire/ 40 pin ... not all short, though): http://www.pacificgeek.com/productdetail.asp?ID=1507181 http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=906sku=50051 http://www.applecomponents.com/items/000393/922-3862_cable-ultra-ata-dual-drive-version-2/ The last looks most like the one supplied with the G4s ... just don't have any buyer experience with them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.5 in older machines question
On Jul 2, 2009, at 9:48 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:30 PM, Bruce wrote: Hello, If I install 10.5 on a hard drive in an MDD, then remove that hard drive and put it in a 733 QS or a 733 DA, what would happen? Would 10.5 now boot and run on the QS and DA? Thanks, Bruce S. I have a cloned 10.5.7 running fine on my Digital Audio Dual 533. Just cloned it from a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz installation. Meant to mention I only have a GeForce4 MX in my DA's AGP slot ... doesn't fully support Core Image. QE yes. I believe you need at least 512MB RAM but the full amount is preferred ... especially under Leopard, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Replacing crimped mobo ATA cable
On Jul 2, 2009, at 6:49 PM, dc wrote: I use cables without the slit, never had problems. You should be able to find them easily since the are stock pc (not Apple oem) cables: http://cgi.ebay.com/IDE-HARD-DRIVE-ATA133-CABLE-HIGH-DENSITY-6- INCH_W0QQitemZ170338067481QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Cables_Adapters? hash=item27a8f0a419_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116 That 6 cable is a good start. An actual Apple cable, however DOES have the slits for CS (the patent requires it), but if you want to make a two-drive cable which does not have the slits, it is easy enough. The Apple two-drive cable is 6-3/8 over all, with the blue and one end, the black at the other end and the gray 4 from the blue end. The Apple P/N is 590-2253. It is best to use an existing Apple cable as a reference as the black and the gray connectors point away from the blue connector. If you start with a standard PC 18 cable and you carefully remove the black and gray connectors, you may reattach these at their appropriate points. It helps to have a professional flat cable cutter (Ideal, or equal) and a professional flat cable connector installer (3M, or equal). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Replacing crimped mobo ATA cable
On Jul 2, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: http://www.applecomponents.com/items/000393/922-3862_cable- ultra-ata-dual-drive-version-2/ The last looks most like the one supplied with the G4s ... just don't have any buyer experience with them. This is the closest I've yet seen to the BW G3 (Rev. 2) through QS 2002 models. The price is reasonable, too. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Replacing crimped mobo ATA cable
On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:16 PM, PeterH wrote: On Jul 2, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: http://www.applecomponents.com/items/000393/922-3862_cable- ultra-ata-dual-drive-version-2/ The last looks most like the one supplied with the G4s ... just don't have any buyer experience with them. This is the closest I've yet seen to the BW G3 (Rev. 2) through QS 2002 models. The price is reasonable, too. Real company? seems a little too Yahoo-ish for me... Also ... Nothing implied by this, but does size matter? I read somewhere the shorter the better, so the 6-7 inch one with the 1 blue mobo and 2 drive (gray and black) connectors was optimal. Oh ... I now have a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz, a Digital Audio Dual 533 and a Yikes! oc'd to 450. When will I stop. I really like my DA ... kind of a mini-QS ... which I've decided to add SATA to it. Like I said recently, when will I stop. Regarding the ATA mobo cable, I guess I'm looking for the 6-7 inch ones ... like the applecomponents.com one ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
