Re: Creeping failure to send emails
At 8:56 AM -0700 10/11/2009, tonycd wrote: >I have AT&T DSL, connected by wire to a Quicksilver running Tiger and >wirelessly via AirPort Graphite to a MacBook running Leopard. Both use >Thunderbird for email. > >In recent days, both machines are having increasing trouble sending >emails. At first, you'd fail on the first one or two attempts and then >succeed. Now, you fail about 6+ times before a success. (Receiving, >and browsing, both work fine.) > >I'd think this suggests a corrupt prefs file, but I'm hesitant to >start wiping out preference files left and right, since I'm frankly >not sophisticated enough to restore them. I do have a recent backup of >both machines' configurations on an external hard disk, but I also >have better ways to spend my Sunday than bumbling around ignorantly at >the business of incompetent file replacement. > >What's this sound like to you eminent minds out there? Sometimes ISPs require that you collect email before they allow you to send any. This is done to reduce the possibility that spammers can broadcast their wares through your ISP's network connection. - Maretta --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Creeping failure to send emails
Dan, here's what I got this time (front matter removed): 1 * * * 2 adsl-99-144-239-254.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net (99.144.239.254) 17.870 ms 16.665 ms 25.795 ms 3 68.250.251.66 (68.250.251.66) 16.751 ms 17.509 ms 18.209 ms 4 bb2-g9-0.emhril.sbcglobal.net (151.164.94.164) 18.060 ms 17.930 ms 17.054 ms 5 151.164.38.214 (151.164.38.214) 39.558 ms 39.804 ms 39.934 ms 6 asn10310-yahoo-10g.eqabva.sbcglobal.net (151.164.249.50) 39.127 ms 39.118 ms 39.039 ms 7 as-0.pat2.che.yahoo.com (216.115.101.145) 70.536 ms 63.913 ms 70.359 ms 8 as-2.pat1.dax.yahoo.com (216.115.96.60) 78.934 ms 71.652 ms 71.327 ms 9 ae-3.pat2.dax.yahoo.com (216.115.102.137) 70.393 ms 71.356 ms 121.713 ms 10 ae1-p111.msr2.mud.yahoo.com (216.115.104.103) 121.093 ms 65.220 ms ae2-p111.msr2.mud.yahoo.com (216.115.104.111) 72.851 ms 11 te-6-2.fab2-a-gdc.mud.yahoo.com (209.191.78.153) 71.250 ms te-8-2.fab2-a-gdc.mud.yahoo.com (209.191.78.157) 71.316 ms te-8-2.fab1-a-gdc.mud.yahoo.com (209.191.78.149) 71.387 ms 12 unknown-209-191-78-163.yahoo.com (209.191.78.163) 72.304 ms unknown-209-191-78-165.yahoo.com (209.191.78.165) 65.536 ms unknown-209-191-78-163.yahoo.com (209.191.78.163) 65.671 ms 13 * * * 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * *^C No improvement in the last few days, by the way. Gracias, Tony On Oct 13, 10:11 am, Dan wrote: > At 7:51 PM -0700 10/12/2009, tonycd wrote: > > >;; ANSWER SECTION: > >smtp.att.yahoo.com. 806 IN CNAME smtp- > >sbc.mail.yahoo.com. > >smtp-sbc.mail.yahoo.com. 186IN CNAME > >smtp.sbc.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com. > >smtp.sbc.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com. 199 IN A 66.196.96.87 > >smtp.sbc.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com. 199 IN A 68.142.229.42 > > >;; Query time: 36 msec > > Looks good. That means Thuderbird is finding the correct server. > > >Tony-(Lastname)s-Computer-2:~ t(lastname)$ traceroute smtp.att.yahoo.com > > You need to hit return after that last command so it executes. > > How have things been this past weekend - any more or less reliable? > > - Dan. > -- > - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sawtooth video issues
On Oct 10, 6:16 pm, Nestamicky wrote: > Also, while I have your attention. Do you know of a DVD authoring > software; avi to dvd that's even paid for, free would be great. One that > does not take 39 hours to make a single dvd. Please don't mention toast > to me. I don't know of an application that can speed up the encoding... The best solution is to get a faster computer of course.. but failing that, find an older mac that you can leave on for days at a time who's only job is to convert the avi files to DVD then transfer them over to your mac with the dvd burner and rip it. The last place I saw a copy of visual hub is in the newsgroups.. Good Luck!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Mirror Door Reluctant to Start
> Date: Mon, Oct 12 2009 7:22 pm > From: Richard Gerome > > I always shut mine down when I'm not using it, for these > reasons: Save on electric bill, I think the computer will last > longer including the battery and if you leave it on and online > there is less chance for hackers to get into the computer with spyware > As to the first reason, it depends on the second reason. If you wear out your machine more by turning it on and off, perhaps more energy is used in the need to manufacture, transport, work to save and buy and transport another replacement machine. The second reason, what evidence is there for this? It is not obvious to me. As for the third reason, this is rather a separate issue, leaving a machine on is not necessarily leaving it logged on... -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ati radeon models for PowerMac G4
To complete the story: I just got myself that Radeon card (ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 64MB DVI/ADC), and I do find the difference DVI vs VGA very real, even on this 19" screen. Maybe the improvement is more noticeable on this screen, because of its high native resolution 1680x1050, I don’t know. But before, there was a kind of cloudiness, as if it the screen was not evenly bright, and that is completely gone. Also, I think the picture as a whole is crisper -- just easier to look at. All of this may be due to the different graphics card, yes, but I for one am convinced of DVI’s advantage! I don’t know yet about faster handling of windows, but I’m also quite happy that I can have my new screen and my old screen side by side. Geke On Sep 21, 5:21 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > On Sep 21, 2009, at 6:28 AM, Geke wrote: > > > But I don’t get the idea what would improve, Bruce, or what would go > > faster, dorayme? > > I’m not into gaming, by the way. > > A faster video card speeds up Quartz, and hence, the whole GUI quite > noticeably, even back in the days of 10.2...windows scroll faster, > open faster, refresh faster. > > I noticed quite the difference when I upgraded my sawtooth from the > original Rage card to a Radeon, and my games collection consists of an > old copy of Glider. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leave Runnin? Or Not?
FWIW I always shut my Macs down when I won't be using them for awhile ... QS 2002 Dual 1GHz (with a replaced mobo, due to electrical shock treatment) DA Dual 533 (cpu upgrade by seller) Yikes! oc'd to 450 PowerMac 8500 w.Sonnet G4/450 or G3/500 (can't remember since its been off several months) Compaq Presario (gutted, so it may never run again ...) My rationale is they are more vulnerable to power shifts when on, so I control their shifts by turning them off daily. I only use one daily (my DA 533, so it gets the most shutdown/power up abuse. Also try to disconnect the phone line to DSL whenever an electrical storm passes ... they're vulnerable if hard wired ethernet-ted. Also disconnect the ethernet cables when I'm feeling especially sensitive. And unplug everything from the walls, if a passing storm is particularly threatening. And ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leave Runnin? Or Not?
At 11:53 AM -0700 10/13/2009, Jonas Ulrich wrote: >Interesting that someone should bring up this question. I have a >dual 1GHZ MDD and have been wondering the exact same thing. I never >shut mine down. It has been running for 9 days straight without >sleep. And before the power outage it was up for 29 days straight >without sleep, and before that 31 days straight without sleep, but >had to shut it down to replace the modem. My main machine here runs 24/7, no sleep. It checks email, is connected to irc, im's, and providing some private file sharing services. Ditto for my server. Only had one problemo in recent memory -- I left open a Safari window running a flash game. When it lost its network connection (donno why) it went nutz trying to regain it. Started sucking up 100% of my cpu etc. No real harm done; just annoying. It made the evening incremental backup take an extra two hours. :\ If you don't have 'net connections running, then Sleep, Data, Sleep. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leave Runnin? Or Not?
Interesting that someone should bring up this question. I have a dual 1GHZ MDD and have been wondering the exact same thing. I never shut mine down. It has been running for 9 days straight without sleep. And before the power outage it was up for 29 days straight without sleep, and before that 31 days straight without sleep, but had to shut it down to replace the modem. -Jonas On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Dan wrote: > > At 10:45 PM -0400 10/12/2009, Richard Gerome wrote: > >I had some friends in the past leave their computer on and online on > >a website they were checking out all night and they all had to clean > >the drive and reinstall but they all had PC's > > Their error was using Windoze in the first place. And keep in mind > that the basic troubleshooting step for Windoze is to reinstall. > > But you're smarter than that. You use a Mac. And Apple is smart > enough to have designed an operating system that doesn't corrupt > itself! > > >Another thing that isn't good to do is download your e-mail to your > >computer via Outlook etc etc etc... I always check my e-mail in > >webmail (on earthlink's website in my case)... I'm not sure how > >all this works (hackers spyware phishing) so I don't take any > >chances... > > There is NO added safety provided by using webmail. I think you need > to learn exactly what malware is and how it works. > > - Dan. > -- > - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Agp Help
Ok system is back up and running Osx tiger - Was on "Open Firmware" screen and would not exit despite all attempts to reset Pram, Nvram etc. Removed all memory - machine would not boot - so put back in one stick and voila - now all sticks in at 2 MB and system seems happier -- lots of drive noises now and will try to clean rest of dust out and eventually upgrade to G5 when I can, but for now I will look to replace Radaeon card fan so I can use my cinema display - and update and use the Sonnet processor upgrade. IF this ends up crashing again - I'll see if I can at least move over to a Gigabite Ethernet system or something a bit heftier. Thanks to all Erik > From: Erik Hancock > Reply-To: > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:50:33 -0400 > To: > Subject: Re: Agp Help > > > Ok - I swapped video cards to another ATI 128 rage - had normal Tiger > desktop in safe mode - shutdown to hook up USB/FW cables and now it starts > up in the white firmware screen - looks to be current with 4.2.8 but it only > allows 2 commands (mac boot and shut down) and on boot it is searching for > a system 9 start-up folder - must say I haven't had a good working 9 > partion in quite a while so have thrown in the original 9 system discs. > > What is likely happening and what is best course of action back to 10.4 > > thanks > > >> From: pdimage >> Reply-To: >> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:09:16 +0100 >> To: "g3-5-list@googlegroups.com" >> Subject: Re: Agp Help >> >> >> On 13/10/09 14:51, "Erik Hancock" wrote: >> >>> Yes - Sawtoowth "AGP" version - the current card with no signal is the >>> ATI Rage - presumably the original version (DVI and VGA ) posts. >>> >>> Tried the pram reset and to boot off master disc - with no video - found >>> original rage 128 card and will try that - would pressing PMU reset be worth >>> trying ? >>> >>> Secondly - >>> >>> On radeon card I found the fan was fried - is if possible to replace fan >>> (easily removed from heat sink) and have a good card or is it possible that >>> the card fried with over heating? >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> Erik >>> >> >> It's very easy to replace the fan on a 9800 - just three screws and the >> power connection - and a lot of the fans are interchangeable. The card may >> survive overheating for a good while so it's worth trying another fan. >> Entire heatsink and fan assembly is also easy to remove and refurbish with >> fresh thermal transfer goop - usually just two plunge clips holding it on. >> If you have another mac on lan and you think it's just the video you can >> use vnc (chicken of the vnc is free) or remote desktop to view the screen of >> the mac with no video to see what is happening... >> >> Pete >> >> >> >>> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Creeping failure to send emails
At 7:51 PM -0700 10/12/2009, tonycd wrote: >;; ANSWER SECTION: >smtp.att.yahoo.com. 806 IN CNAME smtp- >sbc.mail.yahoo.com. >smtp-sbc.mail.yahoo.com. 186IN CNAME >smtp.sbc.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com. >smtp.sbc.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com. 199 IN A 66.196.96.87 >smtp.sbc.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com. 199 IN A 68.142.229.42 > >;; Query time: 36 msec Looks good. That means Thuderbird is finding the correct server. >Tony-(Lastname)s-Computer-2:~ t(lastname)$ traceroute smtp.att.yahoo.com You need to hit return after that last command so it executes. How have things been this past weekend - any more or less reliable? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RAM doesn't work
On Oct 13, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Geke wrote: > > Thanks, Bruce, I like that spirit. I'm going to find out about this! > After all, I have a working module, so I'll decipher its internals > with the help of that Chipmunk site. I'll be back. > > For the time being: > This stick has chips on both sides, but the company clearly described > it as high density. It won't work with your Mac. Best thing to do is either see if you can return it or eBay it and hope you do not lose too much. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leave Runnin? Or Not?
At 10:45 PM -0400 10/12/2009, Richard Gerome wrote: >I had some friends in the past leave their computer on and online on >a website they were checking out all night and they all had to clean >the drive and reinstall but they all had PC's Their error was using Windoze in the first place. And keep in mind that the basic troubleshooting step for Windoze is to reinstall. But you're smarter than that. You use a Mac. And Apple is smart enough to have designed an operating system that doesn't corrupt itself! >Another thing that isn't good to do is download your e-mail to your >computer via Outlook etc etc etc... I always check my e-mail in >webmail (on earthlink's website in my case)... I'm not sure how >all this works (hackers spyware phishing) so I don't take any >chances... There is NO added safety provided by using webmail. I think you need to learn exactly what malware is and how it works. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leave Runnin? Or Not?
At 10:22 PM -0400 10/12/2009, Richard Gerome wrote: >I always shut mine down when I'm not using it You mean overnight or repeatedly, each day? Overnight - ok. Repeatedly - bad. That full power-up is the worst wear'n'tear you can hit a machine with - especially an older one. >for these reasons: Save on electric bill, I think the computer will >last longer including the battery If the machine is unpowered (unplugged) the battery is used to maintain the PMU and clock, which would of course shorten its life. As for saving on the electric bill... heh. Assumin the display is off/sleeping... I doubt any Mac uses significant power while sleeping. They always use a "trickle" of a few watts (when plugged in), to keep the PMU, buses, USB, and keyboard running. In sleep mode, add just a few more watts. The Mac Pro, eg, trickles about 4.5 watts and sleeps about 7.8 watts. About screensavers... If you're leaving your Mac for a few mins, screensavers are fine. But for longer periods, they're not so smart. They keep the display going, using max power. And depending on the complexity of the screensaver, they can even use a lot of cpu and other resources, including generate enough heat to require the fans... >and if you leave it on and online there is less chance for hackers >to get into the computer with spyware or phish and get any of your >info you may have saved on your computer, even though Apples are a >lot less prone to viruses they can still get your info out of them... Leaving it online creates *less chance"? um The ONLY way your Mac can become infected with something is for you to ACTIVELY fetch the malware onto your machine then MANUALLY execute it and MANUALLY give it your admin password. Of course, that requires that there be "something" out in the wild that can actually infect your Mac. Right now, those types of malware only exist in Bill Gate's dreams. >How many e-mails do you get from spammers that you have no idea how >they got your e-mail address??? The ability of a spammer to purchase a mailing list, or use a dictionary attack, has nothing to do with things your Mac might be doing while you're afk. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Agp Help
Ok - I swapped video cards to another ATI 128 rage - had normal Tiger desktop in safe mode - shutdown to hook up USB/FW cables and now it starts up in the white firmware screen - looks to be current with 4.2.8 but it only allows 2 commands (mac boot and shut down) and on boot it is searching for a system 9 start-up folder - must say I haven't had a good working 9 partion in quite a while so have thrown in the original 9 system discs. What is likely happening and what is best course of action back to 10.4 thanks > From: pdimage > Reply-To: > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:09:16 +0100 > To: "g3-5-list@googlegroups.com" > Subject: Re: Agp Help > > > On 13/10/09 14:51, "Erik Hancock" wrote: > >> Yes - Sawtoowth "AGP" version - the current card with no signal is the >> ATI Rage - presumably the original version (DVI and VGA ) posts. >> >> Tried the pram reset and to boot off master disc - with no video - found >> original rage 128 card and will try that - would pressing PMU reset be worth >> trying ? >> >> Secondly - >> >> On radeon card I found the fan was fried - is if possible to replace fan >> (easily removed from heat sink) and have a good card or is it possible that >> the card fried with over heating? >> >> >> Thanks >> Erik >> > > It's very easy to replace the fan on a 9800 - just three screws and the > power connection - and a lot of the fans are interchangeable. The card may > survive overheating for a good while so it's worth trying another fan. > Entire heatsink and fan assembly is also easy to remove and refurbish with > fresh thermal transfer goop - usually just two plunge clips holding it on. > If you have another mac on lan and you think it's just the video you can > use vnc (chicken of the vnc is free) or remote desktop to view the screen of > the mac with no video to see what is happening... > > Pete > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leave Runnin? Or Not?
At 9:54 PM -0400 10/12/2009, James Morgan wrote: >Is it a good idea to leave my mirror door G4's running all the time? >Or is it better to shut them down at night? Macs and OS X are designed for sleep / wake cycles. As long as you don't have some hardware installed that prevents it, the best thing to do is to just sleep the machine. Or at least sleep the display(s). That reduces the power usage to a minimum, etc. A final shutdown at night and a boot the next day is no big deal tho, wrt wear'n'tear on the hardware. FWIW, all our Macs here sleep, except my Smurf and the ones I'm using as servers. Those stay awake, so as to keep their network connections live. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RAM doesn't work
Thanks, Bruce, I like that spirit. I'm going to find out about this! After all, I have a working module, so I'll decipher its internals with the help of that Chipmunk site. I'll be back. For the time being: This stick has chips on both sides, but the company clearly described it as high density. Only, at that time, I had no idea that that was important. More details from their description: Unbuffered, dual-channel-able, non-ECC, non-parity, 64x4 high density, 3.3V, CL3.0 and of course 512MB, PC133, SDRAM, 168-pin. The manufacturer is indicated as Infineon/Qimonda On Oct 12, 5:38 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > On Oct 11, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Geke wrote: > > > > > I did try the module in all three slots, yes, and it does have 8 chips > > on the back as well... > > Looks like the only way is to buy stuff marked as "for Mac also". > > No. SO long as things like density and speed requirements are met, > same as any computer, there IS NO DIFFERENCE between RAM used in Macs > and RAM used in PC's. > > You either have a faulty RAM module, or it's mis-labelled and is > incompatible with your system. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard on an upgraded QS? maybe not?
That is a feature in iCab as well (free trial). --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Len Gerstel wrote: > However, a handy feature in Safari (version 4.0.3 in > 10.4.11) is the > ability to tell web sites it is another browser. I am > 99.99% certain > that Safari under 10.5 can do the same thing. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard on an upgraded QS? maybe not?
On Oct 13, 2009, at 9:17 AM, James Morgan wrote: > > Excite upgraded their servers and now I can't edit my old websites > there with my G4's running OS 10.4. It looks like I will need to buy > a new G5 with OS 10.5 so I can use internet explorer to edit those > old websites. Do you know if I can run internet explorer on my > mirror door G4's if I upgrade them to OS 10.5? Can you get into Excite with IE right now? AFAIK, IE was never released for OS X. and since 10.5 does not run classic, you are probably out of luck. I went to excite.com and the site would not load with IE 5.2 in classic under 10.4. First error was about needing Flash, and there is no easy download of Flash for OS 9. I don't know if they even made it for 9. However, a handy feature in Safari (version 4.0.3 in 10.4.11) is the ability to tell web sites it is another browser. I am 99.99% certain that Safari under 10.5 can do the same thing. I set the User Agent on the Develop menu to tell web sites that it is actually IE 8.0 and Excite loaded fine, but I do not know if you can do what you need to do that way, but it is worth a try. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Agp Help
On 13/10/09 14:51, "Erik Hancock" wrote: > Yes - Sawtoowth "AGP" version - the current card with no signal is the > ATI Rage - presumably the original version (DVI and VGA ) posts. > > Tried the pram reset and to boot off master disc - with no video - found > original rage 128 card and will try that - would pressing PMU reset be worth > trying ? > > Secondly - > > On radeon card I found the fan was fried - is if possible to replace fan > (easily removed from heat sink) and have a good card or is it possible that > the card fried with over heating? > > > Thanks > Erik > It's very easy to replace the fan on a 9800 - just three screws and the power connection - and a lot of the fans are interchangeable. The card may survive overheating for a good while so it's worth trying another fan. Entire heatsink and fan assembly is also easy to remove and refurbish with fresh thermal transfer goop - usually just two plunge clips holding it on. If you have another mac on lan and you think it's just the video you can use vnc (chicken of the vnc is free) or remote desktop to view the screen of the mac with no video to see what is happening... Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard on an upgraded QS? maybe not?
Excite upgraded their servers and now I can't edit my old websites there with my G4's running OS 10.4. It looks like I will need to buy a new G5 with OS 10.5 so I can use internet explorer to edit those old websites. Do you know if I can run internet explorer on my mirror door G4's if I upgrade them to OS 10.5? = On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > On Oct 10, 2009, at 10:04 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: > >> >> >>I don't know what the problem could be, but I have a question >> about this??? Why would you upgrade to Leopard if Tiger was running >> so great??? I can't find anything that makes Leopard any better then >> Tiger??? > > Spotlight is enormously improved in 10.5 over 10.4, that alone is > worth the cost of upgrading in my opinion. There's numerous other > under-the-hood improvements in 10.5; if your system supports is (and I > would use Apple's official support as a guide: 867 Mhz or faster, at > least 512 Megs ram (I'd reccomend 1G) ) 10.5 is great. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Agp Help
> From: pdimage > Reply-To: > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:24:45 +0100 > To: "g3-5-list@googlegroups.com" > Subject: Re: Agp Help > > > On 13/10/09 05:08, "Erik Hancock" wrote: > >> Had my AGP bite the dust power system or logic board Was smoking and >> sizzling as soon as power cord plugged in alt power supply no help. >> >> Purchased a used AGP and swapped the drives and now not sure if it is >> booting up correctly VGA out is not getting signal nor is the DVI to the >> Apple cinema display. >> >> In old mac I had the Radeon 9800 but looks like the fan was fried not >> sure if I should swap out the cards and risk frying the new system or to see >> if I can find my original AGP display card for the VGA monitor. >> >> Any suggestions to try before swapping cards in case unit is trying to >> determine whether VGA vs DVI is active or if Pram or other method can be >> tried to startup system? >> >> Can tell some settings are changed off of old system (10.4) because the >> network and attached HDD/DVD on Firewire hubs are not present. Other >> advice? >> >> Holler back on or off-list >> >> Thanks >> >> Erik Hancock > > What's an AGP? - a Sawtooth? If the old card is a 9800 what's the > new/used card with no signal. Very rarely a zap of the nvram and the pram - > by holding the comm/opt/p/r keys immediately after the chime - will cure a > fault - worth a trya cuda press will also reset the mobo. > If it will boot and display with an OSX installation disk the problem > may be the system on the HD. > > Pete > Yes - Sawtoowth "AGP" version - the current card with no signal is the ATI Rage - presumably the original version (DVI and VGA ) posts. Tried the pram reset and to boot off master disc - with no video - found original rage 128 card and will try that - would pressing PMU reset be worth trying ? Secondly - On radeon card I found the fan was fried - is if possible to replace fan (easily removed from heat sink) and have a good card or is it possible that the card fried with over heating? Thanks Erik --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Start Up troubles
Hello Folks: I am having trouble with my G-4. THIS IS the only trouble I have ever had. When I log into my account after start-up my account opens then shuts out and goes back to log in screen. It is as if I logged out. I have run macjanitor and tech tool pro on the machine, but it still happens. I believe there is a simple explanation but i cannot see it. Any anawers? Sincerely, André Stark President BlackShark Films Inc. 23 Chilton Park Milton, MA 02186 617-298-1591 (o) 857-544-3783(c) (360) 242-7648(f) http://www.blacksharkfilms.com blacksharkfi...@yahoo.com --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Mac User #330250 wrote: From: Mac User #330250 Subject: Re: NTFS formatted carry to Sawtooth To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 3:10 PM You'll find it here: http://macntfs-3g.blogspot.com/ I have NTFS-3G 2009.4.4 running on my PowerPC Mac and it never let me down so far. System requirements are: Mac OS X 10.4 or 10.5 on Intel or PowerPC. Note: there is a 15-day trial version of Tuxera out, but as it already states, it's only a time-limited trial. I'd go for the free version mentioned above. Cheers, Andreas. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: wallpapers
http://www.richardmohr.com/images/graphics/rcadiscmontage2a.jpg My current cool desktop. http://www.jaschaheifetz.com/fans/downloads.html My last ones. Roger --- On Mon, 10/12/09, ThisOldMacSupport wrote: From: ThisOldMacSupport Subject: Re: wallpapers To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 7:19 PM You might want to review this site: http://www.macdesktops.com -- They don't make 'em like they used to. It's why so many folks love old Macs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Agp Help
On 13/10/09 05:08, "Erik Hancock" wrote: > Had my AGP bite the dust power system or logic board Was smoking and > sizzling as soon as power cord plugged in alt power supply no help. > > Purchased a used AGP and swapped the drives and now not sure if it is > booting up correctly VGA out is not getting signal nor is the DVI to the > Apple cinema display. > > In old mac I had the Radeon 9800 but looks like the fan was fried not > sure if I should swap out the cards and risk frying the new system or to see > if I can find my original AGP display card for the VGA monitor. > > Any suggestions to try before swapping cards in case unit is trying to > determine whether VGA vs DVI is active or if Pram or other method can be > tried to startup system? > > Can tell some settings are changed off of old system (10.4) because the > network and attached HDD/DVD on Firewire hubs are not present. Other > advice? > > Holler back on or off-list > > Thanks > > Erik Hancock What's an AGP? - a Sawtooth? If the old card is a 9800 what's the new/used card with no signal. Very rarely a zap of the nvram and the pram - by holding the comm/opt/p/r keys immediately after the chime - will cure a fault - worth a trya cuda press will also reset the mobo. If it will boot and display with an OSX installation disk the problem may be the system on the HD. Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
