Re: Wireless network?

[Kris Tilford]

On Mar 3, 2010, at 10:25 PM, Kasey Smith wrote:


Goes a lot farther than the one provided by our ISP (Netgear WRT54g).


There's no such thing as a Netgear WRT54g, it's a Linksys. The Linksys  
WRT54g started the whole DD-WRT/OpenWRT revolution of open source  
Linux firmware for routers. Just because your ISP's router firmware  
has bad range doesn't mean you can't do something about it. You should  
look into whether or not your specific model and version of WRT54g can  
run DD-WRT or OpenWRT firmware, and if it can, I believe you'll find  
you can improve your router performance dramatically, which makes  
certain models & versions of the WRT54g among the most sought after of  
the 802.11g routers, and best selling too.







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Re: Wireless network?

[Kasey Smith]

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Bruce Johnson
 wrote:

> You'll need a wifi router, or connect the ethernet port of one of the
> desktops to the internet, and share the internet via that computers wifi.
> Apple's Airport Extreme Base Station is really nice and allows connecting
> USB drives and printers for sharing. They're quite expensive however,
> compared to other offerings like Netgear or Linksys. I have a NetGear
> 802.11g wifi router myself that I like a lot and has prven to be quite
> reliable; but it's a touter only, no USB or shared devices.

D-Link has a G offering with two USB2 ports, not sure if they make the
exact model anymore though. Also, what Netgear do you have? I have a
NetGear WPN824v2 G router with RangeMax and MIMO, and i love it. Goes
a lot farther than the one provided by our ISP (Netgear WRT54g)

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Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet

[Kasey Smith]

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Bruce Johnson
 wrote:
> The VAST MAJORITY of broadband access in this country is about 7 MB/s. In
> most of the country Broadband tops out at 12 mbps.

The fastest I can get here at my house in rural Idaho is 4mb,
currently we have 512kb D:

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Re: iMovie 6

[Kasey Smith]

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:16 AM, icanswing  wrote:

> Can you run all three versions of ilife on your computer as separate
> programs or does the newer version upgrade the older version?
> I'm wondering because iweb 6 can be used for ebay listings but ilife 9 has
> style sheets and ebay doesn't accept style sheets.
>

I do it with iMovie 2, 3, and '05, just rename the app before installing the
new one.

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Re: 1.25 eMac running in safe mode.

[Dan Stobbs]

On 4 March 2010 01:19, Dan  wrote:

> At 11:51 PM + 3/3/2010, Dan Stobbs wrote:
>
>> eMac
>>
>
> memory?
>
512MB

>
> Does it bong?
>
Yes.

>
> Does it pass AHT?
> Didn't occur to me to try that - good one  -I've got several AHT disks in a
> box somewhere - almost certainly got a couple of eMac ones as I have 6 or
> seven eMacs (don't ask! -  two of them were bought spares/repair so I could
> learn how to take them apart - one has defective IVAD cable - planning to
> use cable from the totally dead one to fix that when I get space on bench
> clear!
>
>> *While I can wield a soldering iron I'm not intending to repair it but
>> I've been playing with it as a result of email conversations with an ebayer
>> who had one up for sale.  She said that hers will surf in safe mode, so I
>> dug mine out with a view to trying this out.*
>>
>
> Safe Mode is a restricted/limited environment.  Many drivers are not
> loaded.  Many services are not running.  It is meant as a debug/repair type
> mode, not for regular use.
>
> Running as you suggest is the equivalent of driving your car on the rims,
> with the top down, in a thunderstorm.  It will get you home, in a pinch, but
> you will get wet and perhaps fried on the way.
> Fair comment, although IMHO it seems a lot more functional than I remember
> 'Safe Mode' in Windoze being. Obviously (?) sound and video drivers not
> being loaded - no VLC functionality but Neo Office seems to work OK. My
> correspondent is using hers to surf and apparently findin it satisfactory
> although without UTube functionality. .
>
>  *So now I have an eMac running 10.4.11, and in safe mode it seems quite
>> happy.  Trying to boot it normally, it sometimes freezes at 'Starting OSX',
>> sometimes gets as far as  a desktop, but then the mouse freezes - basically,
>> as expected, no functionality.*
>>
>
> Look in the system log to see what's failing.
>
 OK. System log looked at and saved. But that system log is from Safe boot.
So I thought I'd reboot, allowing normal boot until it hung, and then
restart in TDM so I could access log via my G4 lampshade. Did this and I
found references to my Wacom Bamboo tablet, which I've recently installed on
the G4!  So I disconnected FW lead and rebooted the eMac. It got as far as
the desktop this time and I moved the mouse onto the Apple menu which
opened, and then froze with a spinning pinball.Turned off eMac, restarted in
TDM and then connected FW lead and went drilling for logs in
1.25eMac/users/myfolder/library/logs. This got me to disk utility log.
Clicking further got me to system log which I attempted to copy to the
clipboard for study in textedit - I got nearly to the bottom and then it
vanished.  Before I try again am I looking in the right place?

>
> Try booting in Verbose Mode, to see how far the boot process is getting.
> Tried that already before I posted. Unfortunately it doesn't stay on screen
> long enough to read it before it goes to colour screen!. Is there a way of
> pausing the boot process to allow me to read it?
> - Dan.
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Re: 1.25 eMac running in safe mode.

[Dan]

At 11:51 PM + 3/3/2010, Dan Stobbs wrote:

eMac


memory?

Does it bong?

Does it pass AHT?

While I can wield a soldering iron I'm not intending to repair it 
but I've been playing with it as a result of email conversations 
with an ebayer who had one up for sale.  She said that hers will 
surf in safe mode, so I dug mine out with a view to trying this out.


Safe Mode is a restricted/limited environment.  Many drivers are not 
loaded.  Many services are not running.  It is meant as a 
debug/repair type mode, not for regular use.


Running as you suggest is the equivalent of driving your car on the 
rims, with the top down, in a thunderstorm.  It will get you home, in 
a pinch, but you will get wet and perhaps fried on the way.


So now I have an eMac running 10.4.11, and in safe mode it seems 
quite happy.  Trying to boot it normally, it sometimes freezes at 
'Starting OSX', sometimes gets as far as  a desktop, but then the 
mouse freezes - basically, as expected, no functionality.


Look in the system log to see what's failing.

Try booting in Verbose Mode, to see how far the boot process is getting.

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1.25 eMac running in safe mode.

[Dan Stobbs]

I recently bought one of these with the failing caps problem.

described thusly

 "... as spares and repairs because I dont have the time to reinstall Mac
OSX
 boots up to statup then sits on mac loading screen may just need
reinstalling ."
[image: 
Photobucket]this
was how it arrived (seller's photo).


basically for spares for my other eMacs and because I like a challenge,
and it *may just* have needed a re-install (another one I bought for spares
came without a System folder that had been trashed somehow so nice kernel
panic when I turned it on - an OSX install sorted that one although since it
is clogged with sawdust I need to strip and clean it before I dare use it
for anything!)

While I can wield a soldering iron I'm not intending to repair it but I've
been playing with it as a result of email conversations with an ebayer who
had one up for sale.  She said that hers will surf in safe mode, so I dug
mine out with a view to trying this out.
When I turned it on I found that I was in the middle of re-installing OSX on
it when I got fed up some weeks ago.
I started it in Safe Mode and was able to complete the installation
satisfactorily, then started it in Target Disc Mode and moved a few files
across, including the combined update.
So now I have an eMac running 10.4.11, and in safe mode it seems quite
happy.  Trying to boot it normally, it sometimes freezes at 'Starting OSX',
sometimes gets as far as  a desktop, but then the mouse freezes - basically,
as expected, no functionality.
So a couple of questions.

I usually share my internet connection between my Macs using a firewire
cable (why - because it just works beautifully!)
In safe mode I do not seem to be able to invoke this functionality - system
prefs only shows ethernet as an option. Am I missing something obvious or
can I only do this in full bells and whistles mode?

Everything *seems* to work fine in Safe Mode - I've installed a couple of
small apps  - Onyx, Neo Office, my printer - and they seem to work OK. (not
actually tried printing yet though!)
 VLC 0.9.9a doesn't seem to output video and sound - having just checked
System Prefs, it shows no input or output devices found, so do I lose sound
and video options in safe mode?
The eMac seems stable enough in Safe Mode, no video artifacts, random
freezes, mouse hanging - what kind of voodoo is going on here - I would have
thought that dodgy caps would cause problems in safe mode as well?

Looking forward to the group's erudition on this1

Dan.

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Re: Printer recommendation?

[Dan]

At 10:30 AM -0800 3/2/2010, Bill Spencer wrote:

So my question is, what do you folks recommend as a good-quality,
basic b/w, no need for bells & whistles, laser printer that won't
break the bank and will work well with either machine below?


Like der Bruce et al, I like Brother current.

But... take your time, peruse the normal channels - your local 
Craigslist, local zip search on eBay, LEM Swap, etc.  A cheap/free 
used HP LaserJet or Canon or Brother or  often beats the cost of 
a new printer, especially for "basic b/w".


FWIW,
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Re: Printer recommendation?

[Dale Hoffman]

On Mar 2, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Bill Spencer wrote:


So my question is, what do you folks recommend as a good-quality,
basic b/w, no need for bells & whistles, laser printer that won't
break the bank and will work well with either machine below? Yes, I
know you get what you pay for, but I just can't pay for very much,
unfortunately.


Bill,

Consumer Reports did an article on printers in its December '09 issue.

Two Brother models were tested and both got the check mark  
recommendation and an "excellent" for quality text printing.

They were models HL-5370DW ($250) and HL-2170W ($150).
Both support ethernet and wifi.
The more expensive model is given a cheaper per copy cost presumably  
because its toner cartridge is larger.


Dale

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Re: Disk Utility Hang

[billycar_G3-5]

On Mar 3, 11:41 am, gifutiger  wrote:
> Greetings
>
> Why don't you try memtest with just one memory module installed at a
> time.
> That way if they all pass you can then move them from one slot at a
> time to the next slot and run memtest again.
> Troubleshooting needs to be taken down to the least number of
> components to be tested.

memtest-ing using the "Sandwich Method", IIRC, proves the middle stick
is a good one.

e.g. If 3 sticks "A B C" tests OK, you assume B is a good stick. since
memtest allegedly exercises the entire middle stick.

And so forth.

All mine now test good.

I'm sort of suspecting a weak PRAM battery.
and/or
Maybe dust in the slots, a need to re-seat the sticks.

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Re: Printer recommendation?

[John Musbach]

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Bruce Johnson
 wrote:
>
> On Mar 2, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Bill Spencer wrote:
>
>> So my question is, what do you folks recommend as a good-quality,
>> basic b/w, no need for bells & whistles, laser printer that won't
>> break the bank and will work well with either machine below? Yes, I
>> know you get what you pay for, but I just can't pay for very much,
>> unfortunately.
>
>
> I've become a big fan of Brother.
>
> A Brother HL6050DN. (D==Duplexing; N==Network)  Built like tanks, run
> forever and ever. An EXCELLENT workgroup printer.

I second the brother HL line suggestion, I have a HL5250DN and am very
happy with it.


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Re: Printer recommendation?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 2, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Bill Spencer wrote:


So my question is, what do you folks recommend as a good-quality,
basic b/w, no need for bells & whistles, laser printer that won't
break the bank and will work well with either machine below? Yes, I
know you get what you pay for, but I just can't pay for very much,
unfortunately.



I've become a big fan of Brother.

A Brother HL6050DN. (D==Duplexing; N==Network)  Built like tanks, run  
forever and ever. An EXCELLENT workgroup printer.


Their only drawback is that repair parts seem quite hard to source. We  
replaced one a year back was simply having problems with paper feed,  
but I was unable to find a source for the take-up rollers in the back,  
which were the probable issue.


HP's 2nnn and higher numbered printers are also good.

Brother makes the smaller, desktop-sized HL5050, dunno if it has a N  
option too, but we have another one of those that's been giving yeoman  
service for about 7 years now.


Brother, unlike HP doesn't change their printer lineup every 35 days,  
when we replaced the Hl6050DN, it was the very same model as the one  
we'd purchased 6 years prior. This is starting to catch up to HP,  
we've had a few come through that were intractable lemons (beware the  
old 4400 series B&W workgroup printers, and three of the four low-end  
color laser printers we've gotten from them have died; logic board  
issues, I guess, because they just flat stopped working.) so if you go  
for an HP model, scour the web for problems with it before you buy.


It's sad because HP at one time made the best laser printers on the  
planet.


Another thing with the Brothers, the toner is separate from the drum,  
so feeding them is cheaper than most other printers.


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Printer recommendation?

[Bill Spencer]

Hi there: It's looking like my beloved old Apple LaserWriter 12/640 PS
may be on its last legs...it's pulling several sheets at a time, and
therefore jamming, more and more often, and it seems to be getting
somewhat slower too, though I just ordered some more memory for it to
go from the stock 4MB to 16 MB (this before I had caught on to the
jamming issue). Plus the multi-purpose tray has never pulled anything
through; as soon as it starts to do so it stops with a loud clunk
sound, and displays a paper jam even though the paper never moves more
than about 1/16 of an inch and comes back out with no resistance at
all.

Because of the age of this thing (and the fact that I got it for free
[!] about seven years ago) I suspect it's not worth a service call,
and the fix-your-own-printer folks don't have anything to service it
myself that I can find...and the forums there make it sound like a
large pain in the hoo-hah to work on anyway.

So my question is, what do you folks recommend as a good-quality,
basic b/w, no need for bells & whistles, laser printer that won't
break the bank and will work well with either machine below? Yes, I
know you get what you pay for, but I just can't pay for very much,
unfortunately. This would be for basic home printing: no photos or
high-end graphics, almost no high-volume needs, nothing out of the
ordinary. The only two things I can think of that might be nice-to-
haves are a wireless connection and the ability to copy & scan too,
but even those are not necessities, let alone the ability to make
coffee or vacuum the car. *ahem*

If you have suggestions for reviving the 12/640 instead, I'm glad to
hear those too. As always, my thanks in advance!

***

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IMac Core Duo 2.4 ghz/1 g RAM/Snow Leopard
IMac Core Duo 1.83 ghz/1 g RAM/Snow Leopard

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Re: powerbook display in clamshell ibook

[Kris Tilford]

On Mar 3, 2010, at 10:25 AM, James Therrault wrote:

As long as the physical constraints are met, I would think that it  
is possible but would probably require some intricate "adjustments"  
with regard to board connectivity and the like. That said, the cost  
of doing so probably would become prohibitive real quick. Sort of  
like putting a V8 into a Nash Metropolitan...


JT

(Who had a version of the last clamshell Graphite (466 MHz G3  
maxdout in RAM but now has a G4 1.25GHz with 2GB RAM))


Here's a link to the information on placing a 1024x768 LCD into a  
clamshell iBook. They state it works on the 466 MHz model you have,  
and "may" work on older models also:




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Re: powerbook display in clamsheel ibook

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Ben Dinger wrote:



Now if it was a swap of a higher res LCD from a same model?



That won't work, either.

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Re: Start-up

[Mel]

Regarding entering these three:

reset-nvram (enter)
set-defaults (enter)
reset-all (enter)

What do you enter them into?

I'm using a used DP 533 G4 DA 1.5 MB DRAM that so far is trouble free.

Mel

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From: gifutiger 
Subject: Re: Start-up
To: "G-Group" 
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 8:47 AM

Greetings

When your platform boots into open firmware, have you reset the open
firmware?
You can do the reset by entering

reset-nvram (enter)
set-defaults (enter)
reset-all (enter)

the reset-all will cause the platform to reboot.

Cheers

Harry
San Jose, Ca


On Mar 2, 9:22 am, Norm Rowe  wrote:
> Hi my G4 has a problem. When I start up it beeps once then goes to open
> firmware. It will not start up from the install disk or either of my 2
> internal hard drives. From opn firmfirm ware I must type "mac-boot" and
> it starts right up but only on the disk that needs repair or erase and
> install. How do I get past this? Any ideas? Bruce?Kyle?
> Norm

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Re: Start-up

[gifutiger]

Greetings

When your platform boots into open firmware, have you reset the open
firmware?
You can do the reset by entering

reset-nvram (enter)
set-defaults (enter)
reset-all (enter)

the reset-all will cause the platform to reboot.

Cheers

Harry
San Jose, Ca


On Mar 2, 9:22 am, Norm Rowe  wrote:
> Hi my G4 has a problem. When I start up it beeps once then goes to open
> firmware. It will not start up from the install disk or either of my 2
> internal hard drives. From opn firmfirm ware I must type "mac-boot" and
> it starts right up but only on the disk that needs repair or erase and
> install. How do I get past this? Any ideas? Bruce?Kyle?
> Norm

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Re: Disk Utility Hang

[gifutiger]

Greetings

Why don't you try memtest with just one memory module installed at a
time.
That way if they all pass you can then move them from one slot at a
time to the next slot and run memtest again.
Troubleshooting needs to be taken down to the least number of
components to be tested.

Cheers

Harry
San Jose, Ca


On Mar 2, 11:13 am, Bill Connelly  wrote:
> Curious if I'm trying to do too much at once ... or maybe another DVD-
> RW is going bad (my PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-106D) ... I kind of think they  
> go bad after a number of years, just because of the half-life of some  
> component that may have radioactive parts ... my Suspicions ...
>
> Disk Utility seemed to hang my OS X 10.5.8 on my DA Dual 533. After  
> trying to Eject a disk using the menu disk eject "button", I tried  
> also dragging the disk to the Trash ... it didn't really like the  
> multiple requests ... even though I could request a Shut Down, it  
> would just sit in partial shut down state ... an empty Desktop, and no  
> spinning bellybutton thingy. Went on and pushed the Power button until  
> it shut down. I might also have had some app holding onto the drive as  
> well ... Finder ... Toast 6 ... Disk Utility ...
>
> I recently put in this DVD-RW to replace another one that had gone  
> bad, and have since upgraded the firmware to 1.08.
>
> I was also getting Mail app crashes, and occasionally Safari went  
> belly up, so I suspected RAM issues. It passes one set of 3 memtest  
> passes run off applejack. I should continue and rearrange the RAM  
> sticks and test again (sandwiching scheme).
>
> I also cleaned things up using applejack in auto-pilot mode.
>
> Didn't have the energy to look at the logs ... but a report to Apple  
> noted Disk Utility hang.
>
> Any suggestions? Like what to look for in which log?

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Re: powerbook display in clamsheel ibook

[Ben Dinger]

On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 09:14:53AM -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
> They're different LCD's with different dimensions and connections.
>
> Standard LEM List Car Analogy: "The driver's side door on my Corvette is 
> damaged. Can I swap it with one from a Ford F150?"
>
> What you want to do is look for a clamshell LCD.
>

I'll second the above.  While you COULD MAYBE do it, I wouldn't.  I
tried at the request of someone a couple years back who wanted a better
resolution LCD in a ThinkPad - it didn't end well.  

Now if it was a swap of a higher res LCD from a same model?  That would
probably work - say a MBP - but nope, I wouldn't even try from a
different model.  


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Re: powerbook display in clamsheel ibook

[James Therrault]

On Mar 3, 2010, at 1:11 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:


On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:45 AM, lawson bishop wrote:

hey everyone can i put a powerbook g3 wallstreet display in  
clamshell G3 i need the clamshell for school and its got a cracked  
screen


There is someone on this list who replaced an 800x600 clamshell LCD  
with a 1024x768 screen, but I don't know what the 1024x768 LCD came  
from? If you're using OS X, a higher resolution LCD would be a  
fantastic upgrade for any clamshell, especially one with 8MB VRAM.  
I'd try to find out what that higher res LCD was.



As long as the physical constraints are met, I would think that it is  
possible but would probably require some intricate "adjustments" with  
regard to board connectivity and the like.  That said, the cost of  
doing so probably would become prohibitive real quick. Sort of like  
putting a V8 into a Nash Metropolitan...


JT

(Who had a version of the last clamshell Graphite (466 MHz G3 maxdout  
in RAM but now has a G4 1.25GHz with 2GB RAM))




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Re: powerbook display in clamsheel ibook

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:05 AM, lawson bishop wrote:


how come all i want to do is swap screens



They're different LCD's with different dimensions and connections.

Standard LEM List Car Analogy: "The driver's side door on my Corvette  
is damaged. Can I swap it with one from a Ford F150?"


What you want to do is look for a clamshell LCD.

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Re: Disk Utility Hang

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 2, 2010, at 9:37 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:



Is it also possible a DVD-RW going bad / being bad, could cause a  
hangup with trying to eject a disk from it?






Oh yeah, unless something in the system's glommed onto a file, but  
then you should get a 'This Volume cannot be ejected it's busy' type  
error. Try booting and holding down the mouse button. If it ejects  
then then it was a software error not a hardware one.



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