Hello ! !
I have recently become the owner of a 4 x 2.5 Ghz PowerPC G5 Mac. Running os 10.5.8 Could anyone help me with advice on Java, there are some applications that won't run on this machine at present, due, it seems to out of date software. Is there any guide to the most up to date s/ware I can run on this machine? If anyone could help with this info it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Chris. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hello ! !
Chris House wrote: I have recently become the owner of a 4 x 2.5 Ghz PowerPC G5 Mac. Running os 10.5.8 Could anyone help me with advice on Java, there are some applications that won't run on this machine at present, due, it seems to out of date software. Is there any guide to the most up to date s/ware I can run on this machine? If anyone could help with this info it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Chris. Go to the APPLE click and go down to software update click ... then click on what you need. Dan II -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hello ! !
Java has good support for PPC. Just download the latest version from sun.com . The Quad G5 is a very fast machine, and should be able to run any Java app. It is a bit faster than the current Macbooks, so it should do just fine. Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC architecture. On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:58 AM, DAN A CURRIE danc...@frontiernet.netwrote: Chris House wrote: I have recently become the owner of a 4 x 2.5 Ghz PowerPC G5 Mac. Running os 10.5.8 Could anyone help me with advice on Java, there are some applications that won't run on this machine at present, due, it seems to out of date software. Is there any guide to the most up to date s/ware I can run on this machine? If anyone could help with this info it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Chris. Go to the APPLE click and go down to software update click ... then click on what you need. Dan II -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hello ! !
I've heard of some people partitioning the HD and install Tiger 10.4.11 on it too because some software programs won't run with Leopard 10.5.8... -Original Message- From: Chris House chrishous...@gmail.com Sent: Jul 3, 2010 10:45 AM To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Hello ! ! I have recently become the owner of a 4 x 2.5 Ghz PowerPC G5 Mac. Running os 10.5.8 Could anyone help me with advice on Java, there are some applications that won't run on this machine at present, due, it seems to out of date software. Is there any guide to the most up to date s/ware I can run on this machine? If anyone could help with this info it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Chris. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: CD Music
Greetings All I was sure that this was the answer to my problem of not being able to write CD's that would play on my Toshiba SD-6109C integrated CD/DVD player, Amplifier. Well yesterday I received a spindle of 25 650MB CD disks that I ordered, however still no luck. Made a disk from iTunes and it still wont play. I guess that I'll just give up and tell my wife that she'll have to play the music on her Lamp Shade iMac. Thanks for everyones help. Harry San Jose, Ca On Jun 24, 5:07 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 24, 2010, at 5:02 PM, gifutiger wrote: I just opened my iTunes and it says all of my songs are AAC audio file does that mean that they are AIFF Forget the format, this has nothing whatsoever to do with burning the disk; iTunes converts the data to correct red book format when it burns an Audio CD. If your Toshiba player will play CDR's at all, it's likely that it only plays 74 minute/650 mb disks; see my earlier reply. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
CCC and backing up iCal, Address book, Safari
We all know that I can back up iCal, Address book and safari bookmarks within the applications themselves, BUT I would like to set up CCC to do backups of iCal, Address book and Safari bookmarks ( and no, I don't want to clone the whole user) Question is, where are the files that are associated with these apps? I know where Address book is, but the other two? Is this even possible? Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
CCC and backing up iCal, Address book, Safari
Stink, I can increment backup the source, but not the destination so I can't do what I wanted to anyway... :-( Jeff earlier. We all know that I can back up iCal, Address book and safari bookmarks within the applications themselves, BUT I would like to set up CCC to do backups of iCal, Address book and Safari bookmarks ( and no, I don't want to clone the whole user) Question is, where are the files that are associated with these apps? I know where Address book is, but the other two? Is this even possible? Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: CCC and backing up iCal, Address book, Safari
At 11:48 AM -0700 7/3/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: We all know that I can back up iCal, Address book and safari bookmarks within the applications themselves, BUT I would like to set up CCC to do backups of iCal, Address book and Safari bookmarks ( and no, I don't want to clone the whole user) Question is, where are the files that are associated with these apps? I know where Address book is, but the other two? Is this even possible? You're talking about picking things out of ~/Library/Application Support/, ~/Library/Preferences, ~/Library/appname, and perhaps other places ... And worse, this issue would have to be revisited *every time* those apps were updated. I guess you could just grab all of ~/Library. But that won't follow aliases etc. IMO, you'd be much better off making a CCC of /Users, then creating a job to update it incrementally. Mine runs every day at 5:02. Takes between 10 and 30 mins (depends on how active I've been that day). Oh, tell CCC to ignore Library/Caches There's nothing there you ever need or want. If space on the backup device is an issue... You could tell it to ignore your music and movies too... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: CCC and backing up iCal, Address book, Safari
On Jul 3, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Dan wrote: At 11:48 AM -0700 7/3/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: We all know that I can back up iCal, Address book and safari bookmarks within the applications themselves, BUT I would like to set up CCC to do backups of iCal, Address book and Safari bookmarks ( and no, I don't want to clone the whole user) Question is, where are the files that are associated with these apps? I know where Address book is, but the other two? Is this even possible? You're talking about picking things out of ~/Library/Application Support/, ~/Library/Preferences, ~/Library/appname, and perhaps other places ... And worse, this issue would have to be revisited *every time* those apps were updated. I guess you could just grab all of ~/Library. But that won't follow aliases etc. IMO, you'd be much better off making a CCC of /Users, then creating a job to update it incrementally. Mine runs every day at 5:02. Takes between 10 and 30 mins (depends on how active I've been that day). Oh, tell CCC to ignore Library/Caches There's nothing there you ever need or want. If space on the backup device is an issue... You could tell it to ignore your music and movies too... - Dan. How do I tell CCC to ignore library caches?? looking for that box to uncheck? can't find it. Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: CCC and backing up iCal, Address book, Safari
At 12:16 PM -0700 7/3/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: IMO, you'd be much better off making a CCC of /Users, then creating a job to update it incrementally. Mine runs every day at 5:02. Takes between 10 and 30 mins (depends on how active I've been that day). Oh, tell CCC to ignore Library/Caches There's nothing there you ever need or want. If space on the backup device is an issue... You could tell it to ignore your music and movies too... How do I tell CCC to ignore library caches?? looking for that box to uncheck? can't find it. Select the source. Hit the gear pop-up to the right of that, and pick Edit Filters. Click Show Avanced Options Then add an entry to the Custom Rules list. Change the field it creates to be exactly - Library/Caches Note the - sign. That means exclude. Leave off the initial /. That way it will match both /Library/Caches and /Users/jeff/Library/Caches etc. If you hit the ? button in that dialog, it will display instructions. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hello ! !
On Jul 3, 2010, at 10:14 AM, Illirik Smirnov wrote: Java has good support for PPC. No, this isn't correct. Java support for the PPC was cut-off completely over a year ago. Starting with Java Update 4 for Leopard 10.5 the Java updates were Intel only. The consequence is that all PPC Macs running Tiger or Leopard are left at Java version SE5 1.5.0_24 whereas the current Java for Intel Macs is Java SE6 1.6.0_20. What's funny is that Sun quit Java 1.5 support in Dec.2009 with version 1.5.0_22 but Apple has continued to 1.5.0_24. Alternatively, Sun brought out Java 1.6 in Dec.2006 and is now at update 20, so this means PPC Macs are 21 updates behind, or 3.5 years behind the current Java version. Just download the latest version from sun.com. Sun.com http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp just has a link back to Apple. Apple handles all the Java updates for OS X, and the very first PPC software that Apple quit supporting was Java. AFAIK there will NEVER be Java SE6 1.6 available for PPC Macs. I know this because I use a Java program that requires Java SE6 1.6 in its current version, and I've been forced to use an older version written for Java SE5 1.5 on my PPC G5. I've looked hard into this issue, and if anyone knows of a way to get Java SE6 1.6 running on a PPC Mac that would be incredible since Apple no longer supports PPC Macs at all. If you want to test your Java version, you open Terminal and type the command: java -version without the quotes. Also, there is a java test page at http://www.javatester.org/version.html but this has problems with Safari and can seize up your Safari. Safari SERIOUSLY needs to follow Chrome Firefox and make each tab or window its own process so that one tab or window can't crash the whole browser. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hello ! !
If you want to test your Java version, you open Terminal and type the command: java -version without the quotes. I have OS X 10.4.11 I did as you said and got this java version 1.5.0_19 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_19-b02-306) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_19-138, mixed mode, sharing) steve-cs-power-mac-g4:~ steveconrad1$ Can I go any higher? Safari SERIOUSLY needs to follow Chrome Firefox and make each tab or window its own process so that one tab or window can't crash the whole browser. I agree! But don't get your hopes up. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iMac G5 STILL Overheating
Ok I though it was fixed, but my 17 1.8GHZ iMac G5 overheats and the fans rev way up if I even check my e-mail. If it just sits with nothing open it's fine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 STILL Overheating
On Jul 3, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Ok I though it was fixed, but my 17 1.8GHZ iMac G5 overheats and the fans rev way up if I even check my e-mail. If it just sits with nothing open it's fine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. It sounds as if your iMac's thermal sensor(s) are getting faulty information. Here's what Apple says in the service manual for the ALS model, 17-inch: Fans are running at a constant high speed If the fans on the system are running at a constant high speed, or ramp very quickly to high speed and do not vary this speed once reached, the fans are most likely receiving incorrect thermal input. In these cases you should use the following steps to resolve: 1. Reset the SMU ... and then test to see if the fans still exhibit the issue. 2. Boot from the iMac G5 Install DVD or another iMac G5 of the same type in FireWire Target disc mode and see if the issue persists. If the fans run normally here, reinstall the system software. Be sure to give the system enough time to recreate the issue when booted to these other volumes. 3. Verify that the hard drive sensor cable is plugged in correctly. If necessary, replace the hard drive sensor cable. 4. Replace the hard drive (the hard drive includes the sensor on the hard drive carrier). 5. Replace the main logic board. I don't remember what you've done to your iMac, but you also might want to check the quantity and quality of the thermal paste or pads between the GPU, CPU and the bridge chip (all are under the big G5 shield, which means you may have to disassemble your iMac to check). It's possible that a previous owner or service person either didn't renew the thermal paste/pads, didn't use the correct ones, or left one out. I've seen all of these happen, which is why I never take anything or anyone for granted when diagnosing a new-to-me Mac. If any logic board capacitors were replaced, it's possible that one or more might not be correctly soldered in place, which could be causing the fan problem. I've replaced caps on iMac G5s, and have experienced ramped up fan noise until I resoldered several caps again. Have you run the Apple Hardware Test, Quick and Extended? This might give you a clue. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
time machine back ups
I just checked the space on my large HD (I have two in my MDD G4) was was surprised to see I only had 25G free on a 200G HD. Then I saw all these files from backups.backupdb. Are these the time machine files and do I need to keep them all or can I trash the ones that are over a year old? Linda in Ohio -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: time machine back ups
On Jul 3, 2010, at 7:48 PM, Linda wrote: I just checked the space on my large HD (I have two in my MDD G4) was was surprised to see I only had 25G free on a 200G HD. Then I saw all these files from backups.backupdb. Are these the time machine files and do I need to keep them all or can I trash the ones that are over a year old? Linda in Ohio Trash whatever date and back that you feel is no longer viable. Or they'll just start drpping of as the drive gets too full. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: time machine back ups
On Jul 3, 2010, at 8:48 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jul 3, 2010, at 7:48 PM, Linda wrote: I just checked the space on my large HD (I have two in my MDD G4) was was surprised to see I only had 25G free on a 200G HD. Then I saw all these files from backups.backupdb. Are these the time machine files and do I need to keep them all or can I trash the ones that are over a year old? Linda in Ohio Trash whatever date and back that you feel is no longer viable. Or they'll just start dropping of as the drive gets too full. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP The Time machine volume should be a separate HDD apart from your main drive. It sounds like maybe you have the Time machine on your working drive? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: time machine back ups
On Jul 3, 2010, at 11:48 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jul 3, 2010, at 7:48 PM, Linda wrote: I just checked the space on my large HD (I have two in my MDD G4) was was surprised to see I only had 25G free on a 200G HD. Then I saw all these files from backups.backupdb. Are these the time machine files and do I need to keep them all or can I trash the ones that are over a year old? Linda in Ohio Trash whatever date and back that you feel is no longer viable. Or they'll just start drpping of as the drive gets too full. I thought TM took care of things automatically ... got rid of the oldest to make room for the newest. Probably better to read up on it in the TM Help or ask on Apple Support under the TM Forum. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: time machine back ups
NO! Never trash anything from a TM volume. Those old files are data that TM backed up originally, and most likely include things like the OS. Let TM do its own thing space-management wise. Chance On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:48 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Trash whatever date and back that you feel is no longer viable. Or they'll just start drpping of as the drive gets too full. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: time machine back ups
On Jul 3, 2010, at 9:01 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: NO! Never trash anything from a TM volume. Those old files are data that TM backed up originally, and most likely include things like the OS. Let TM do its own thing space-management wise. I never thought of that. I thought the OS remained intact and the incremental backups were just that. When mine gets too full I increase the drive capacity or do a CCC and start over again. My TM is a 1TB my main is a 500. I go back to Feb at the moment I have 90 GBs of space left on the TM. All my movie and music files are on separate drives to keep the working drive and TM in line. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
