Re: sync iTunes Music
On Jul 13, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote: On Jul 13, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote: 10.4.11 now with more HD space, I'd like to synce iTMF 1 with iTMF 2 On Jul 13, 3:17 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: I just did exactly this with ChronoSync It works like magic. I have several iTunes libraries very large too. Thanks John. Interesting. A little pricey. Anyone have experience with: File Synchronization: http://nemesys.dyndns.org/FileSynchronization_EN.html or Sync Folders: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/automator/syncfolders.html Just a word about iTunes syncing between 2 libraries is that I found it not as easy as a folder of files to copy. The iTunes needs some real brains in the sync tool to work, or you'll have a mess. Make sure to have a CCC of both before you use a sync app on your prize libraries.:-) This is why I settled on ChronoSync it's made to do Files like iTunes and a lot more. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Big screen TV for PM G5
On 13/7/10 12:29, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: OK. simple you say? I'm sure going to try to. I guess the trick here is getting the right cable. So to start how can I check positively the capability of my two DVI ports on my Radeon 9600 card? Then from there I should have part of the required info to choose a cable? I think I will want to also have the sound ported to the stereo or can it go to the TV and then the stereo? I have actually done this with a G5 iMac to two 42 inch plasma screens - one 480p and one 720p. The video was taken from the mini vga port into a 10 port vga 1600x1200 splitter and direct to the plasmas with vga cable. The audio was taken from the minijack headphone port of the iMac to a mixer then a 100w power amp and speakers. Alternatives to the mac output were provided by a DVD player and an AppleTV. Picture was very good on the plasmas but very poor on the mac desktop as the mirroring res was set by the second monitor at 480p which is dire on a monitor. 480p denotes the vertical res of the display and corresponds to a poor 640x480 res on a monitor - 720p corresponds to a better 1280x720 res and the best highdef is currently 1080p (or i - p is allegedly better) which corresponds to 1920x1080 which is good for a tv but not so good for a monitor - as I have a 21 multiscan now ten years old which can do better - notwithstanding the 22% screen loss of 16:9 compared to the old 4:3. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/opinion/1652880/time-ditch-awful-hd-108 0p-widescreens Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Big screen TV for PM G5
On 14/7/10 08:45, pdimage pdim...@btinternet.com wrote: On 13/7/10 12:29, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: OK. simple you say? I'm sure going to try to. I guess the trick here is getting the right cable. So to start how can I check positively the capability of my two DVI ports on my Radeon 9600 card? Then from there I should have part of the required info to choose a cable? I think I will want to also have the sound ported to the stereo or can it go to the TV and then the stereo? I have actually done this with a G5 iMac to two 42 inch plasma screens - one 480p and one 720p. The video was taken from the mini vga port into a 10 port vga 1600x1200 splitter and direct to the plasmas with vga cable. The audio was taken from the minijack headphone port of the iMac to a mixer then a 100w power amp and speakers. Alternatives to the mac output were provided by a DVD player and an AppleTV. Picture was very good on the plasmas but very poor on the mac desktop as the mirroring res was set by the second monitor at 480p which is dire on a monitor. 480p denotes the vertical res of the display and corresponds to a poor 640x480 res on a monitor - 720p corresponds to a better 1280x720 res and the best highdef is currently 1080p (or i - p is allegedly better) which corresponds to 1920x1080 which is good for a tv but not so good for a monitor - as I have a 21 multiscan now ten years old which can do better - notwithstanding the 22% screen loss of 16:9 compared to the old 4:3. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/opinion/1652880/time-ditch-awful-hd-108 0p-widescreens Pete Sorry that should have read 11% screen loss - getting old... Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
I have a friend who has this G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and keyboard she doesn't have the monitor, she wants to upgrade this machine to it's full capacity and run Tiger 10.4.11 so she can do her web design work and it needs to be dual boot OS9.2.2 too... She can't afford a new one and she is frustrated with the PC she is now using... Anyone out there have any ideas??? I know we need to max the memory and I don't know what the max is... How about a HD what would be the best and the biggest to make it faster??? How about upgrading the processor??? I haven't opened it up yet to see what it has in it yet, but she wants to do everything she can to get some more yrs out of it... As far as she knows it is still stock except for maybe memory... I have heard some of you talk about the BW, Sawtooth, Yikes, etc etc etc do you know what this one is??? Thank You!!! Rich Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: I have a friend who has this G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and keyboard she doesn't have the monitor, she wants to upgrade this machine to it's full capacity and run Tiger 10.4.11 so she can do her web design work and it needs to be dual boot OS9.2.2 too... She can't afford a new one and she is frustrated with the PC she is now using... Anyone out there have any ideas??? I know we need to max the memory and I don't know what the max is... How about a HD what would be the best and the biggest to make it faster??? How about upgrading the processor??? I haven't opened it up yet to see what it has in it yet, but she wants to do everything she can to get some more yrs out of it... As far as she knows it is still stock except for maybe memory... I have heard some of you talk about the BW, Sawtooth, Yikes, etc etc etc do you know what this one is??? Thank You!!! Rich I would max the ram and if it will accept a USB 2.0 card that would be good. You can dual Boot it with OS 9.2.2 and Tiger. You can install a Pioneer 118L DL R/W CD/DVD optical drive, And a Seagate 500 GB 7200 rpm. must be partitioned to boot OS 9.2.2 Plus bays for 3 more HDDs . The video card will support a 20 Cinema display. I don't know about processor upgrades. What processor speed does it have? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: I have a friend who has this G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and keyboard she doesn't have the monitor, she wants to upgrade this machine to it's full capacity and run Tiger 10.4.11 so she can do her web design work and it needs to be dual boot OS9.2.2 too... She can't afford a new one and she is frustrated with the PC she is now using... Anyone out there have any ideas??? I know we need to max the memory and I don't know what the max is... How about a HD what would be the best and the biggest to make it faster??? How about upgrading the processor??? I haven't opened it up yet to see what it has in it yet, but she wants to do everything she can to get some more yrs out of it... As far as she knows it is still stock except for maybe memory... I have heard some of you talk about the BW, Sawtooth, Yikes, etc etc etc do you know what this one is??? Thank You!!! Rich The M5183 is a G4 AGP, aka 'Sawtooth' In general: Max the RAM Add larger HDD's, although most G4's have a 128GB limit on the built-in IDE controller, which can be gotten around. Upgrade the processor. Upgrade the video. Pay very close attention to costs, however, since you can pretty rapidly get into 'just buy a used G5 tower' territory quite quickly. G4's are not really the sweet spot for upgrades they were several years ago, and the Sawtooth is the very base model of those. It'll boot 9.2 just fine, and is officially supported up to 10.4 and runs 10.5 quite happily with a CPU upgrade. (The 10.5 installer looks at the speed of the CPU, so with an upgrade faster than 867 MHz, it installs 10.5 out of the box, no helper programs needed.) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
On Jul 14, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: I have a friend who has this G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and keyboard she doesn't have the monitor, she wants to upgrade this machine to it's full capacity and run Tiger 10.4.11 so she can do her web design work and it needs to be dual boot OS9.2.2 too... She can't afford a new one and she is frustrated with the PC she is now using... Anyone out there have any ideas??? I know we need to max the memory and I don't know what the max is... How about a HD what would be the best and the biggest to make it faster??? How about upgrading the processor??? I haven't opened it up yet to see what it has in it yet, but she wants to do everything she can to get some more yrs out of it... As far as she knows it is still stock except for maybe memory... I have heard some of you talk about the BW, Sawtooth, Yikes, etc etc etc do you know what this one is??? Thank You!!! Rich The M5183 is a G4 AGP, aka 'Sawtooth' In general: Max the RAM Add larger HDD's, although most G4's have a 128GB limit on the built-in IDE controller, which can be gotten around. Upgrade the processor. Upgrade the video. Pay very close attention to costs, however, since you can pretty rapidly get into 'just buy a used G5 tower' territory quite quickly. G4's are not really the sweet spot for upgrades they were several years ago, and the Sawtooth is the very base model of those. It'll boot 9.2 just fine, and is officially supported up to 10.4 and runs 10.5 quite happily with a CPU upgrade. (The 10.5 installer looks at the speed of the CPU, so with an upgrade faster than 867 MHz, it installs 10.5 out of the box, no helper programs needed.) What CPU upgrade is availible for these DA's? Will a QuickSilver MOBO fit? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
On Jul 14, 2010, at 9:54 AM, john CARMONNE wrote: (The 10.5 installer looks at the speed of the CPU, so with an upgrade faster than 867 MHz, it installs 10.5 out of the box, no helper programs needed.) What CPU upgrade is availible for these DA's? Will a QuickSilver MOBO fit? This is not a Digital Audio, but a Sawtooth, the first model G4 with an AGP video slot. CPU's (and upgrades) from the Sawtooth, Gigabit Ethernet and Digital Audio are interchangeable. The QS requires a specialized power supply, so no a Mobo will not fit without modification. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?
On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:42 PM, t...@io.com wrote: Does the Mac OS X included RAID feature work with USB2 external drives? Would it be usable (not too slow). I'm building a home music server out of a G4 Mac Mini running Tiger and was going to get one external 2 GB drive to sit under it in a MiniStack case, but then I started thinking about back up, and realized I might like to run mirrored drives. So I could add a second drive and MiniStack and just make the stack a little higher, but I've never done RAID on anything but internal drives. I think it should work, but I'm not sure. Does it work? Jeff Walther I'm really hoping that somebody chimes in on this because I have the same question. Jeff Engle -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?
On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:42 PM, t...@io.com wrote: Does the Mac OS X included RAID feature work with USB2 external drives? Would it be usable (not too slow). I'm building a home music server out of a G4 Mac Mini running Tiger and was going to get one external 2 GB drive to sit under it in a MiniStack case, but then I started thinking about back up, and realized I might like to run mirrored drives. So I could add a second drive and MiniStack and just make the stack a little higher, but I've never done RAID on anything but internal drives. I think it should work, but I'm not sure. Does it work? Jeff Walther I'm really hoping that somebody chimes in on this because I have the same question. Jeff Engle -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?
On Jul 14, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I'm really hoping that somebody chimes in on this because I have the same question. Software RAID works on any matched pair of HDs, internal, external, whatever you have. Mirroring is mirroring, so this means if you screw up the software so that it won't boot, the mirror will also be screwed up. Apple's official solution to backup is Time Machine, which has the advantage of going backwards in time to get to a state that was known good. Theoretically this makes a Time Machine backup more robust and preferable to a mirror RAID backup. Time Machine requires Leopard. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?
All, I got interested so I started googling. Here's something that I found that may or may not be helpful: http://66.49.144.193/C2011481421/E20060221212020/index.html Albert From: Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 1:30:05 PM Subject: Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives? On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:42 PM, t...@io.com wrote: Does the Mac OS X included RAID feature work with USB2 external drives? Would it be usable (not too slow). I'm building a home music server out of a G4 Mac Mini running Tiger and was going to get one external 2 GB drive to sit under it in a MiniStack case, but then I started thinking about back up, and realized I might like to run mirrored drives. So I could add a second drive and MiniStack and just make the stack a little higher, but I've never done RAID on anything but internal drives. I think it should work, but I'm not sure. Does it work? Jeff Walther I'm really hoping that somebody chimes in on this because I have the same question. Jeff Engle --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Is a power inverter safe for laptops and iPods?
During an upcoming vacation in an RV, our family will want to charge their Apple laptops and iPods as usual, but of course there won't be any wall outlets like there are in a house. Instead, we have a little gadget called a power inverter from Radio Shack, made in Taiwan by Enercell, that can be plugged into an electrical outlet connected to the car's battery. Here's a picture of the thing: http://tinyurl.com/ 23fequ8. I wonder if it's safe to the electronics to use this inverter? It says on the package: 150-watt power inverter. Equips your vehicle with a household electrical outlet and USB port! Power your home electronics from your car! Continuous AC power: 150W. Peak power: 300W for one cycle. Output voltage 115 VAC + - 10 VAC, 5 VDC + - 0.25 VDC. Output frequency 60Hz + - 3Hz. No-load current draw 0.4A. Caution: total combined power of devices plugged into this inverter should not exceed 150W. Anybody see a problem with plugging a Powerbook, a MacBook, or an iPod into this thing? (Not all at once, of course). Thanks much! Tom -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?
On Jul 14, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: which has the advantage of going backwards in time to get to a state that was known good. Theoretically this makes a Time Machine backup more robust and preferable to a mirror RAID backup. I like both. RAID and TM backups. Jeff Engle -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is a power inverter safe for laptops and iPods?
At 10:51 AM -0700 7/14/2010, Tom wrote: During an upcoming vacation in an RV, our family will want to charge their Apple laptops and iPods as usual, [...] power inverter from Radio Shack [...] Anybody see a problem with plugging a Powerbook, a MacBook, or an iPod into this thing? (Not all at once, of course). My housemates travel all over the country in their RV. Everything works fine on their inverter. But they have had difficulties in the past with cheap inverters... Something about the a/c not being a smooth enough wave to make the wal-warts and rechargers happy. Best to try things in advance... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?
At 12:42 PM -0700 7/13/2010, t...@io.com wrote: Does the Mac OS X included RAID feature work with USB2 external drives? Would it be usable (not too slow). I'm building a home music server out of a G4 Mac Mini running Tiger and was going to get one external 2 GB drive to sit under it in a MiniStack case, but then I started thinking about back up, and realized I might like to run mirrored drives. So I could add a second drive and MiniStack and just make the stack a little higher, but I've never done RAID on anything but internal drives. I think it should work, but I'm not sure. RAID is a way of creating a disk pool that offers either higher performance or higher availability (or sometimes both). RAID Backup -- ever. See Kris' reply. A Mirror is NOT backup. Mirrors offer better performance for *reading* data, because the user's read request can be spread across multiple devices. But since all writes must be replicated to each drive they are *slower* than a regular configuration AND all data errors (corruptions, deletions, etc) are immediately replicated. Use a RAID array where you need performance or availability. AND use a normal backup scheme to protect your data. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is a power inverter safe for laptops and iPods?
On Jul 14, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:51 AM -0700 7/14/2010, Tom wrote: During an upcoming vacation in an RV, our family will want to charge their Apple laptops and iPods as usual, [...] power inverter from Radio Shack [...] Anybody see a problem with plugging a Powerbook, a MacBook, or an iPod into this thing? (Not all at once, of course). My housemates travel all over the country in their RV. Everything works fine on their inverter. But they have had difficulties in the past with cheap inverters... Something about the a/c not being a smooth enough wave to make the wal-warts and rechargers happy. Best to try things in advance... Ooh, thanks for the advice! Our new car came with one built-in, and we were planning on using it on our vacation this year... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is a power inverter safe for laptops and iPods?
At 14:08 -0400 7/14/10, Dan wrote: Best to try things in advance... Yep. And it would be pretty hard to find a power converter that would damage any of today's computer power converters. If it doesn't work don't leave it hooked up too long and pay attention to hot spots that shouldn't be. Cheap converters for automotive cigarette lighters almost always convert to a square wave form of AC power. The voltage changes quickly from +115 volts to -115 volts about 60 times per second. That's quite different from utility power that changes as a smooth sine wave that averages out (in delivered power) to 115 volts. More expensive converters as found in mobile homes do a better job matching the voltage waveform. The internal power converters in computers these days make an effort to avoid drawing current that is not sinusoidal. It's called harmonic suppression and is required in many countries but not in the US of A. When the harmonic suppression circuitry encounters a square wave voltage, which has terrible harmonics to start with, it can get confused and not work properly because it tries to accept current only while the voltage is changing. For a square wave the voltage is only changing for very short periods of time. ftp://ftp.macnauchtan.com/Theory/Harmony_101.pdf Is a piece I wrote a long time ago about it. You'll need to know a little math and electricity but it's pretty short. -- -- Evolution made it possible for mankind to invent religion. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is a power inverter safe for laptops and iPods?
I have for several years used inverters, for the most part all is well, BUT here are some issues: The output of all under $500. inverters is a simple square wave -(1 step) not even a modified sine wave. Above this price range you may find a stepped sine wave output - the number of steps used to approximate the sine wave is a measure of quality -3 steps or 25 steps, but again is only a problem under specific circumstances. I have charged laptops, ran G4s and printers all with no problems, but some of the power supplies are designed as a switching basis to use less iron and so lower in weight but this causes the effect of the square wave to be more of a problem. It is especially important that you NOT use near the limit - a 50 watt should not be more than 80% loaded as the wave will fail and as you are connecting a transformer to what you want it to see is ac, but when the wave form fails, it is dc and no inductive reactance will cause it to have VERY HIGH CURRENTS burning out your supply. JML From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Is a power inverter safe for laptops and iPods? To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 11:08 AM At 10:51 AM -0700 7/14/2010, Tom wrote: During an upcoming vacation in an RV, our family will want to charge their Apple laptops and iPods as usual, [...] power inverter from Radio Shack [...] Anybody see a problem with plugging a Powerbook, a MacBook, or an iPod into this thing? (Not all at once, of course). My housemates travel all over the country in their RV. Everything works fine on their inverter. But they have had difficulties in the past with cheap inverters... Something about the a/c not being a smooth enough wave to make the wal-warts and rechargers happy. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is a power inverter safe for laptops and iPods?
On 7/14/10 11:41 AM, Doug McNutt wrote: At 14:08 -0400 7/14/10, Dan wrote: Best to try things in advance... Yep. And it would be pretty hard to find a power converter that would damage any of today's computer power converters. If it doesn't work don't leave it hooked up too long and pay attention to hot spots that shouldn't be. Switching power supplies rarely have problems. Linear supplies (the denser wall warts) can have problems but are usually okay. Cheap converters for automotive cigarette lighters almost always convert to a square wave form of AC power. The voltage changes quickly from +115 volts to -115 volts about 60 times per second. That's quite different from utility power that changes as a smooth sine wave that averages out (in delivered power) to 115 volts. They actually switch from +160V (or so) to zero to -160 to zero and back to +160. It's what is called a modified sine wave (modified square wave would be more accurate). More expensive converters as found in mobile homes do a better job matching the voltage waveform. Even many of the high power inverters are modified sine wave. The internal power converters in computers these days make an effort to avoid drawing current that is not sinusoidal. It's called harmonic suppression and is required in many countries but not in the US of A. When the harmonic suppression circuitry encounters a square wave voltage, which has terrible harmonics to start with, it can get confused and not work properly because it tries to accept current only while the voltage is changing. For a square wave the voltage is only changing for very short periods of time. I haven't encountered any problems like that but I could see it happening. I have several battery packs that I charge from solar panels for field use. The loads are either 12V (LED lighting), off an inverter or car adapters for the laptops. I prefer using the car adapter instead of the inverter / AC power supply as it's more efficient. I don't worry about leaving them plugged in and running down the battery. The OP listed an inverter that draws .4 A with no load. While that's not a lot of power it can run down the battery if your not careful. The laptop, once it's fully charged draws much less power when using an auto adapter. Most digital equipment will work okay with an inverter output. TVs (older analog sets) and radios may have significant noise because of the inverter. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?
On Jul 14, 12:40 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jul 14, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I'm really hoping that somebody chimes in on this because I have the same question. Software RAID works on any matched pair of HDs, internal, external, whatever you have. Mirroring is mirroring, so this means if you screw up the software so that it won't boot, the mirror will also be screwed up. This should not be an issue, as the only thing on the mirrors will be the iTunes music folder (assuming iTunes still let's one choose the location.) The OS and apps will still be on the Mini's internal drive, and if it gets hosed, it is easily restored from the original disks. Apple's official solution to backup is Time Machine, which has the advantage of going backwards in time to get to a state that was known good. Theoretically this makes a Time Machine backup more robust and preferable to a mirror RAID backup. Time Machine requires Leopard. Thank you for the information. I will want to come up with some removable back up strategy as well, but Time Machine isn't it. I'm considering BDR. The blanks are down to about $1 each now. DVDR is still cheaper in $/GB, but one needs about six times as many disks. Sigh. I *liked* DAT, but the capacity is just too small now and the newer higher capacity stuff is too expensive still. Maybe I'll start a backup thread later. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?
On Jul 14, 12:43 pm, Albert Carter slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com wrote: All, I got interested so I started googling. Here's something that I found that may or may not be helpful: http://66.49.144.193/C2011481421/E20060221212020/index.html Ah, good link. Thank you. That was just what I wanted to know. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: Best DVD burners?
Subject: Re: Best DVD burners? If I relegate a Genesys Logics enclosure to a housing for an opical drive will it also take a crap like it did with a HDD insie.?? I will be buying a Lite-On, LaCie or LG for my PM G5 and so it will leave me with a Pioneer 118L with out a box. John Carmonne It will probably work but maybe not have full functionality. I have a Shining brand external FW enclosure that has a Pioneer 115 optical drive in it and it boots a Mac OS CD or DVD but it will not open or close the tray from the keyboard eject key nor from the menu. Apart from that it works fine. Stewie _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RAID 1 on USB2 Drives?
Software RAID works on any matched pair of HDs, internal, external, whatever you have. Mirroring is mirroring, so this means if you screw up the software so that it won't boot, the mirror will also be screwed up. This should not be an issue, as the only thing on the mirrors will be the iTunes music folder (assuming iTunes still let's one choose the location.) The OS and apps will still be on the Mini's internal drive, and if it gets hosed, it is easily restored from the original disks. Apple's official solution to backup is Time Machine, which has the advantage of going backwards in time to get to a state that was known good. Theoretically this makes a Time Machine backup more robust and preferable to a mirror RAID backup. Time Machine requires Leopard. Thank you for the information. I will want to come up with some removable back up strategy as well, but Time Machine isn't it. I'm considering BDR. The blanks are down to about $1 each now. DVDR is still cheaper in $/GB, but one needs about six times as many disks. Sigh. I *liked* DAT, but the capacity is just too small now and the newer higher capacity stuff is too expensive still. Just to add to what Kris and Dan has said a mirror RAID only backs up a hardware failure. I learned the hard way back in the days of OS 8 9 that if your HDD directory gets hosed you got big problems with both drives. Fortunately I had a current third backup and just lost more time than data. Still a big PIA. Perhaps rather than a BDR, just add another external HDD you could attach only when you need to back up your iTunes folder. Then you could use SuperDuper! or CCC to do incremental backups --very fast. This what I do but I have a relatively small iTunes folder --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Goodbye Power Macs! Or: Linux on Power Macs
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Goodbye Power Macs! Or: Linux on Power Macs Date:Mittwoch 14 Juli 2010N From:Michael G.M. michaelgm717...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Andreas, Big congrats on getting your new Linux Box running well!! Thanks. Since amd64 (x86-64) is so well supported this was not at all hard to accomplish. I take it you built your own System? Sounds nice and very fast. What GPU did you use? I use Gentoo which has a very well documentation of what to do to get it running. What was really really fast was compiling all the programs (which Gentoo's portage system does for you, basically) – for which the G5 Dual-Core 2.0 GHz had me watch for about 4 days compile all the stuff needed to get to a decent desktop. With this Phenom II X6 it took me only about 24 hours – amazing! The GPU is –for now– an older Radeon X1800GTO PCIe. It is very very well supported in Linux – on x86/amd64. I tried a Radeon X1900 Mac Edition on my G5 Dual-Core (ppc64, but also ppc) and it was/is not at all supported. The reason being that the driver under Linux requires the PC-AtomBIOS to work correctly, which is missing on OpenFirmware and, for that matter: on EFI-based graphics cards. I'm planning on using a Radeon HD5770 with 1 GB of video RAM. Also, How did you migrate your data to Linux? and any suggestions on how to do so? I think you got me wrong here. I used Linux all the way. I started off on a PC running Gentoo Linux. I then migrated to a newer PC. Then I got the first G4 Mac and got Gentoo Linux running on it as well and migrated all my data to this G4 (on Gentoo Linux!). Then it was the G5 Dual-Core, and now it is the Phenom II X6. My point was: imagine such a transition (x86 platfrom to PowerPC platform to PowerPC 64-bit platfrom and finally to x86-64 platform) with any other operating system… And for Linux that's not even the limit: arm, mips and so on is also an alternative. As long as you have a supported graphics card nothing will hinder you to run you desktop on a non-mainstream platform. Only you will most likely experience more problems than with mainstream platforms… (Like I did with my G5.) Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
NO artwork on a shared library using front row
ok, I've got my movies all coming from the mac in the other room via ethernet to the mini in the front room... front row on that mini, a shared library gives me no artwork? no pretty goodies in the info window to look at? why? any chance I could get some kind of plug-in for that? Jeff Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: FF and NoScript
At 6:47 PM -0500 7/12/2010, Stephen Conrad wrote: I just updated my AddOns and Themes then restarted it. I went to the Club Pogo page for my profile and got this: (NoScript said there was a script not responding) Script: Chrome://flashgot/content/XPCOM.js:54 I have no pictures in my profile that are anything but a JPEG So why am I getting this error and how do I resolve it? Pogo be full of scripts. Maybe tell NoScript to ignore pages on that site? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Goodbye Power Macs! Or: Linux on Power Macs
On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 15:19 -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote: You can set up each and every one of those services (indeed they're INCLUDED) with Leopard client. The ONLY differences between OSX Client and OSX Server are: AFP connections are limited to 5 simultaneous connections in OS X Client. OSX CLient does not include the large suite of administration tools in OS X Server. OSX Client is pre-set as a client, not a server OS. OSX Client doesn't come with the unix development tools like gcc; you need to install the (free) Developer Tools. Moreover, if you use MacPorts, Fink or simply compile the server apps yourself, any server class software can be enabled in OSX Client. Thanks for pointing this out Bruce, and you're absolutely right. The problem I've run into the past is that there just that aren't many people running these services on OS X, and it's tough to get help if you run into a problem. With Linux, you're dealing with pretty much the same config files with the same syntax. So if I install NFS on Linux, I'm likely to run into the same issues as folks on Linux x86 and can tap their knowledge for support. One problem I had with using nfsd on OS X client was that Linux clients had to have the same UID as existed on the OS X server. I've found fink to typically be very outdated, and I never could get MacPorts working properly, though that was a while back. The issues I run into with compiling my own binaries is that very often I'll find libraries missing and it can be a real hassle tracking them down - and compiling them too. With most linux distros finding a missing library is usually a snap (try 'apt-cache search' sometime on a Debian distro.) Lastly I want to point out that I'm not a professional admin. I just enjoy tinkering with this stuff. My real job is working with Windows (I know, ugh!) When I get home I want to wash that filth out of my brain, so I use OS's (and platforms) that are not mainstream. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
G4's are not really the sweet spot for upgrades they were several years ago, and the Sawtooth is the very base model of those. Bruce Johnson I don't know what hers runs at, but my G4 Dual 1.25 MDD would take on a couple $20 512K ram sticks and max at 2GB, a $10 USB 2.0 card, and whatever PATA drive is on sale. The low end 400-450MHz machines may be long in the tooth, but these machines of mine have yet to show their age. I've gone over the edge, admittedly, added a $50 SATA card and 2X 1.5TB drives at $90 ea, but those drives will move nicely into a new Mac, and that expense was cheaper than the DVR expander for my TiVo, and 3X the size. (The TiVo ext box is $200 list for 1TB). I know, at some point Leopard won't be enough, the browser will not run somer strange new plug in, etc. For now, I think these machines kick butt. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Goodbye Power Macs! Or: Linux on Power Macs
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 01:12 +0200, Mac User #330250 wrote: Also, How did you migrate your data to Linux? and any suggestions on how to do so? I think you got me wrong here. I used Linux all the way. I started off on a PC running Gentoo Linux. I then migrated to a newer PC. Then I got the first G4 Mac and got Gentoo Linux running on it as well and migrated all my data to this G4 (on Gentoo Linux!). Then it was the G5 Dual-Core, and now it is the Phenom II X6. Just out of curiousity, how long did it take Gentoo to compile on your G4? I'm guessing about 3 weeks. :) A helpful hint if you like Gentoo on older hardware - look into distcc. I believe there's a way to distribute the compiling amongst all your hardware, which would be especially helpful for you considering all the machines you seem to have at your disposal. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Goodbye Power Macs! Or: Linux on Power Macs
On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 17:48 -0500, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jul 13, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Eric Volker wrote: I want a server class OS that I can set up services like NFS, Samba, rsync, DHCP and DNS without paying Apple for the privilege of loading Leopard Server... I've successfully loaded Ubuntu 10.04 PowerPC 64-bit on my G5, and so far it's doing well. Are you using the Ubuntu server version or the client version? Client version. I wanted to try out the client version and make sure I could get a workable desktop. If I decide to get serious about turning it into a server, I may wipe it and reinstall the server version, though I think all the services are available for the desktop version as well. I probably don't need a kernel tuned for server use, as anything I do with it will be light duty. The server kernel may even be available via apt-get. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
I would look for a dual Quicksilver machine. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
