Re: Quicksilver trouble

[Midnight rider]

try starting up by pressing COMMAND+OPTION+P+R, that resets the system and
should reset the video to 640x480. Upon logging into Mac OS X, the screen
resolution should return to previous settings or to a workable resolution.
This was a problem until I replaced my video card in my second sawtooth.

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Apple Remote control for a sawtooth?

[Midnight rider]

I know they sell those remote controls for Apple computers these days, and I
was wondering if I could do that with my sawtooth for whenever I watch
movies. If there is no built-in adapter in the sawtooth, where can I get
myself an adapter for use with the sawtooth?

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Re: will DA processor fit in Gigabit?

[Geke]

Len, my experience with stupid questions is that they trigger the best
answers -- or at least they do at times.

Do you have a list or a link how to find out if an upgrade is such a
bus-specific model?
Here’s the data on the card:
-one label reads: D5108
-two labels together read:
SG4R-1000-2-B05
REV B 91523
and
1000/2M
Sonnet Encore ST G4
-printed on the circuit board, under the Sonnet logo:
PCB-SG4R-B 2002

I got some stupid thoughts, too: is it possible that the upgrade has
adjusted its settings to the Gigabite, and now can’t change them
anymore?

Geke

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USB to serial??

[John Carmonne]

Hi All

I have a G4 Cube and PM G4 MDD both boot OS9 and I use a program to communicate 
data to CNC machinery. The method was always via printer or modem ports on the 
pre G4 machines with those ports. So the G4's have USB and I need to transfer 
the files via Mac to a RS232C hub connected to 8 CNC machines. The 
communication program has all the setup configurations, however only affords 
either printer or modem port. Is there any hope of making this work. 

At the moment I transfer the files via floppy to a G3 PPC to send to the 
machines. I want to eliminate that step.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP



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Re: Apple Remote control for a sawtooth?

[Nestamicky]

On 11/08/10 12:34 AM, Midnight rider wrote:

I know they sell those remote controls for Apple computers these days,
and I was wondering if I could do that with my sawtooth for whenever I
watch movies. If there is no built-in adapter in the sawtooth, where can
I get myself an adapter for use with the sawtooth?
Just curious, how are you able to watch movies on a Sawtooth. I must be 
missing something here that you may know. Sorry about not answering your 
question, I'm sure someone will get to it.


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Re: Apple Remote control for a sawtooth?

[Jeffrey Engle]

Here's what I bought
http://twistedmelon.com/mira/

Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536

On Aug 11, 2010, at 6:03 AM, Nestamicky wrote:


On 11/08/10 12:34 AM, Midnight rider wrote:
I know they sell those remote controls for Apple computers these  
days,
and I was wondering if I could do that with my sawtooth for  
whenever I
watch movies. If there is no built-in adapter in the sawtooth,  
where can

I get myself an adapter for use with the sawtooth?
Just curious, how are you able to watch movies on a Sawtooth. I must  
be missing something here that you may know. Sorry about not  
answering your question, I'm sure someone will get to it.


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Re: Apple Remote control for a sawtooth?

[Midnight rider]

Well, As long as you have the full specs for RAM (2GB) and as long as you
overclock an original 350-500Mhz to 533Mhz (I can personally send you the
email myself!) and as long as you have at least a 128MB video card, youtube
is sorta okay. When it comes to DVD or blu-ray movies, my Sawtooth is the
champion! When it comes to youtube, let's just say it might or might not
work.

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Re: Apple Remote control for a sawtooth?

[Midnight rider]

"How to edit and store the NVRAMRC for 133MHz bus


(1) Boot by holding down "Cmd" + "Opt" + "O" + "F" keys to enter the
OpenFirmware terminal.


(2) Enter the NVRAMRC editor. ( shows you should type "return" key)

nvedit 


(3) Type following script exactly (including spaces).



" /" select-dev 

7efdc44 " clock-frequency" get-my-property 2drop ! 

" /cpus/PowerPC,g...@0" select-dev 

1fca0554 " clock-frequency" get-my-property 2drop ! 

7efdc44 " bus-frequency" get-my-property 2drop ! 

1fbf711 " timebase-frequency" get-my-property 2drop !



(4) Type "Cntl" + "C" to exit NVRAMRC editor.


(5) Save the script

nvstore 


(6) To enable the NVRAMRC, type this command.

setenv use-nvramrc? true 


(7) Reboot with new timebase constant.

reset-all 


use this command to successfully overclock any G-powered PowerPC processor
to 533Mhz without soldering. This only works on sub-533Mhz processors. As
for PowerPC G3, use PowerPC,7...@0 instead of PowerPC,g...@0.
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Re: USB to serial??

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:52 AM, John Carmonne wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> I have a G4 Cube and PM G4 MDD both boot OS9 and I use a program to 
> communicate data to CNC machinery. The method was always via printer or modem 
> ports on the pre G4 machines with those ports. So the G4's have USB and I 
> need to transfer the files via Mac to a RS232C hub connected to 8 CNC 
> machines. The communication program has all the setup configurations, however 
> only affords either printer or modem port. Is there any hope of making this 
> work. 
> 
> At the moment I transfer the files via floppy to a G3 PPC to send to the 
> machines. I want to eliminate that step.


Keyspan makes a USB-Serial adapter that's widely used for serial palm pilots 
and gps'es, it should work for your purposes. Heck a generic one might work and 
be cheaper...

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Re: USB to serial??

[Alex Smith (K4RNT)]

I've acquired industrial grade EdgePort USB-serial adapters for quite
cheap off eBay, and provide full RS-232C compliant interfaces. Search
eBay for "edgeport".

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:39, Bruce Johnson
 wrote:
>
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:52 AM, John Carmonne wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have a G4 Cube and PM G4 MDD both boot OS9 and I use a program to 
>> communicate data to CNC machinery. The method was always via printer or 
>> modem ports on the pre G4 machines with those ports. So the G4's have USB 
>> and I need to transfer the files via Mac to a RS232C hub connected to 8 CNC 
>> machines. The communication program has all the setup configurations, 
>> however only affords either printer or modem port. Is there any hope of 
>> making this work.
>>
>> At the moment I transfer the files via floppy to a G3 PPC to send to the 
>> machines. I want to eliminate that step.
>
>
> Keyspan makes a USB-Serial adapter that's widely used for serial palm pilots 
> and gps'es, it should work for your purposes. Heck a generic one might work 
> and be cheaper...

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Re: USB to serial??

[Carmonne]

In a message dated 8/11/10 8:39:50 AM, john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu writes:


> On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:52 AM, John Carmonne wrote:
> 
> > Hi All
> >
> > I have a G4 Cube and PM G4 MDD both boot OS9 and I use a program to 
> communicate data to CNC machinery. The method was always via printer or modem 
> ports on the pre G4 machines with those ports. So the G4's have USB and I 
> need to transfer the files via Mac to a RS232C hub connected to 8 CNC 
> machines. The communication program has all the setup configurations, however 
> only 
> affords either printer or modem port. Is there any hope of making this 
> work.
> >
> > At the moment I transfer the files via floppy to a G3 PPC to send to the 
> machines. I want to eliminate that step.
> 
> 
> Keyspan makes a USB-Serial adapter that's widely used for serial palm 
> pilots and gps'es, it should work for your purposes. Heck a generic one might 
> work and be cheaper...
> 
> --
> 


I tried a Belkin that I have for printers that never did work even on the 
printers so I'll try the keyspan. The problem may go deeper because the I/O 
program requires selecting a port for transfer, the only choices that are 
given are printer or modem, so any idea how that may work?


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my G3 iMac
10.4.11

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Re: USB to serial??

[John Carmonne]

On Aug 11, 8:46 am, "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" 
wrote:
> I've acquired industrial grade EdgePort USB-serial adapters for quite
> cheap off eBay, and provide full RS-232C compliant interfaces. Search
> eBay for "edgeport".

Do you use these with OS 9?

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Re: USB to serial??

[Alex Smith (K4RNT)]

I stand corrected - they don't have any plans on supporting Mac,
however I thought since OS X is based upon BSD it would have support.

My mistake.

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:27, John Carmonne  wrote:
>
>
> On Aug 11, 8:46 am, "Alex Smith (K4RNT)" 
> wrote:
>> I've acquired industrial grade EdgePort USB-serial adapters for quite
>> cheap off eBay, and provide full RS-232C compliant interfaces. Search
>> eBay for "edgeport".
>
> Do you use these with OS 9?
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Re: USB to serial??

[admin]

Back when USB was first introduced and serial ports nom longer  
included companies came out with Serial to USB adapters.  Should still  
be around.  I remember needing an ethernet interface to make something  
like a laser printer still work, but I don't think you will be  
overloading the information capacity of the link.  Good luck.



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Re: Do G5s sleep?

[Dan]

At 2:24 PM -0700 8/10/2010, DLC wrote:

G5 (1.8GHz, DP)
OS is 10.5.8

The G5 does not sleep; when I manually put it to sleep, it goes 
through the motions to the point of shitting down the monitor 
projection, then immediately wakes up again.


Disconnect all external peripherals then try sleeping.  If that 
doesn't work, try quitting some apps.  If that doesn't work, check 
your system.log to see if any errors are being thrown around that may 
cause the sleep process to abort.


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Re: USB to serial??

[Doug McNutt]

At 05:52 -0700 8/11/10, John Carmonne wrote:
>I have a G4 Cube and PM G4 MDD both boot OS9 and I use a program to 
>communicate data to CNC machinery. The method was always via printer or modem 
>ports on the pre G4 machines with those ports. So the G4's have USB and I need 
>to transfer the files via Mac to a RS232C hub connected to 8 CNC machines. The 
>communication program has all the setup configurations, however only affords 
>either printer or modem port. Is there any hope of making this work. 

 - - -
I have been using an old Mac SE/30 for that kind of thing. OS 7.5 talks to OS 
10.3.9 quite well on ethernet but you can't use Tiger. With OS 9 you'll be fine.

But you should be warned that RS232 has been modified in usage more or less 
recently. USB to RS232 converters, especially those that use power from the USB 
bus at +5 volts claim to be RS 232 compliant but they are not  if you read the 
RS-232C standard which is all I can afford.

The problem is that the new stuff doesn't go negative to represent a mark 
(logic 1) condition. It just goes low enough, about +100 mV, to look like a 
logic low to a modern CMOS gate.  Your CNC machine or hub may well requite a 
voltage below -3 V which is the RS 232C standard. Mac serial ports are fine 
with that. I have also used a 1.5 volt dry cell in series with the TxD data 
line polarized to subtract 1.5 volts from the fake RS232 signal from the 
USB->RS232 converter.

Something else I find useful is a cheap Intel box that's just good enough to 
run Linux and still has serial ports. Linux is comfortable with OS-9 and all 
versions of OS neXt over Ethernet. If you're willing to  learn some perl have a 
look at . It goes the other 
way, reading from an oscilloscope over RS-232 but might be a starting point.


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G4 Quicksilver 933 Audio Issue/Question

[somewhitechick]

Hi, all. I read this discussion group all the time but this is my
first post. Not sure what my problem is -- audio control or internal
speaker. OR could it be some sort of setting issue? I have no sound(s)
whatsoever coming from internal speaker. No alert sounds. No boot up
chime. No music. I tried plugging headphones into headphone jack. I
could hear sound coming from one earphone but not the other. The
external speakers used to work (via mini jack) but I sold them a while
back so I cannot test the mini jack. If I go into my system
preferences, under sound, and select output -- it shows internal
speakers -- but the box is grey. Window below says there are no audio
controls for this device. Curious. I've read up on this and tried
various methods to fix. I have used a slight touch of WD-40 on
headphone jack. Plugged and unplugged headphones 30 times (as I read
somewhere might help.) No luck. I've reset PRAM. I've tried trashing
the sound preferences. Even did a fresh install of Tiger. I have
opened Garage Band and closed. Even tried the toothpick/plastic fork
method of jiggling the external mini jack a bit to try and reset. I've
repaired permissions. I ran the Apple Hardware disk, which doesn't
indicate any hardware issues. Disk Utility shows a Texas Instruments
sound card (device) -- so it is in there. (Just not working.) None of
those ideas have fixed the problem. Wish I still had a mini jack &
external speakers because I'd like to try the plug/unplug method with
that. So, I guess the next step is to replace the internal
speaker...unless anyone has alternate ideas for me. Any last
troubleshooting thoughts/ideas before I purchase a speaker and try
that? Replacing internal speaker seems to be a cheaper, easier avenue.
The audio control is part of the logic board, right? I'd really rather
not replace the logic board in this old computer. P.S. My G4
Quicksilver is NOT my primary computer. Just a "hobby" computer.
Thanks for any advice, in advance.

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RE: USB to serial??

[Dennis Myhand]

John:

I have used the following device with some success.

Sabrent SBT-USC1M USB to Serial (9-pin) DB-9 RS-232 Adapter Cable.

I ordered mine from directron.com out of Houston, TX, but that is because I
am only about 100 miles away.  HTH, Dennis in Edna, TX

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Subject: USB to serial??

Hi All

I have a G4 Cube and PM G4 MDD both boot OS9 and I use a program to
communicate data to CNC machinery. The method was always via printer or
modem ports on the pre G4 machines with those ports. So the G4's have USB
and I need to transfer the files via Mac to a RS232C hub connected to 8 CNC
machines. The communication program has all the setup configurations,
however only affords either printer or modem port. Is there any hope of
making this work. 

At the moment I transfer the files via floppy to a G3 PPC to send to the
machines. I want to eliminate that step.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP



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Re: Digital Audio doesn't recognize Sonnet ST / processor temperature

[Geke]

Thanks, will do!


On 9 Aug., 23:22, dc  wrote:
> On Aug 9, 3:09 pm, Geke  wrote:> From a search 
> on the web, I get the impression that most G4 processors
> > don't have a temperature sensor, so I'll have to live with that. But I
> > found that thermal paste isn't expensive at all and I'm going to put
> > that on.
>
> Correct, the G4 processor won't have a temperature sensor; newer hard
> drives and video cards often do. If you want to use thermal paste you
> will need to clean the CPU and heatsink. I usually start by scraping
> with an old plastic credit card edge, then scrub with acetone (or
> fingernail polish remover) on a cotton swab followed by ethanol or
> rubbing alcohol. When you apply the new paste use a very small amount,
> about the size of a grain of rice, and spread it thinly with a piece
> of stiff, soft plastic. Be careful not to scratch the surface of the
> CPU or the heatsink.

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Recommended bootable external Firewire drives for G4 MDD Dual-1Gb

[artemis]

I have a G4 MDD Dual-1Gb, running 10.4.11. In 8 years it's never EVER
missed a beat and continues to be my faithful workhorse for graphic
arts and music recording. However, for my two original internal 80Gb
drives it's obviously just a matter of time before they fall over. So,
in order to safeguard against the inevitable, I'm ready to purchase a
Firewire external drive to do the CCC thing and create a bootable
backup. I've visited the Bombich site and spent time trawling through
the FAQs and other advice, and now I'm more confused than ever. Apart
from a general warning about WD enclosures being totally unsuitable,
and a vague endorsement of a particular Verbatim enclosure, I'm having
a hard time identifying an external with the correct chipset that WILL
definitely do the job. Any tried-and-tested recommendations from
anyone on this list? Thanks in advance ...

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Re: Recommended bootable external Firewire drives for G4 MDD Dual-1Gb

[John Carmonne]

On Aug 11, 2010, at 4:15 PM, artemis wrote:

> I have a G4 MDD Dual-1Gb, running 10.4.11. In 8 years it's never EVER
> missed a beat and continues to be my faithful workhorse for graphic
> arts and music recording. However, for my two original internal 80Gb
> drives it's obviously just a matter of time before they fall over. So,
> in order to safeguard against the inevitable, I'm ready to purchase a
> Firewire external drive to do the CCC thing and create a bootable
> backup. I've visited the Bombich site and spent time trawling through
> the FAQs and other advice, and now I'm more confused than ever. Apart
> from a general warning about WD enclosures being totally unsuitable,
> and a vague endorsement of a particular Verbatim enclosure, I'm having
> a hard time identifying an external with the correct chipset that WILL
> definitely do the job. Any tried-and-tested recommendations from
> anyone on this list? Thanks in advance ...


Any FW enclosure with Oxford chip set and HDD PATA will do the trick with CCC. 
The Oxford chip enclosures will boot the Mac's with out fail 99.9% of the time.
I'm partial to the Seagate 500 GB drives in an OWC enclosure. but that's just 
me:-)

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP



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Re: Safari crashing

[Paul Stamsen]

Previously, at 2:09  pm -0400 7/17/10, Dan wrote:
>At 2:35 PM -0700 7/16/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>>
>>You appear to be running both SafariBlock and ClicktoFlash? Turn off or 
>>uninstall SafariBlock.
>
>SafariBlock and ClickToFlash work well with each other.
>
>SafariBlock clobbers by URL string.
>
>ClickToFlash gets control if Flash content is involved that wasn't blocked by 
>SafariBlock.
>
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Re: Safari crashing

[Stephen Conrad]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Dan  wrote:

> At 3:43 PM -0500 7/16/2010, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>
>> Mac OS X Version 10.4.11 (Build 8S165)
>>
>
> Mac?  Memory?  Free space on your HD?  etc...  Comeon, you know the drill.
>
> Quicksilver
1.5 GB
Over 100 GB (usually in the 103 GB range)

>
>
>  2010-07-08 16:57:28.177 Safari[210] SafariBlock checking for updates.
>>
>
> FWIW, I find it's best to tell SafariBlock to not check for updates. The
> few that have been released are a bit iffy, and the filter updates sometimes
> contain errors will totally disable surfing!


OK, I did this

>
>>
> HD went foo?


HD is fine (I checked)

>
>>
> What was on the page that crashed?   URL?
>
I have multiple tabs open so no idea which one does it

>
> Pull CosmoPod and see if the crash still occurs.
>
> Update ClickToFlash to 1.6b9.  I've had problems with the 1.5.x line in
> Safari 4.1/5.
>
It says I have 1.5.4 and am Up To Date

>
> Update Flash.  Not even going into that rant.
>
I did last time it asked me to

>
> What version of Growl.prefsPane do you have installed?
>
No idea but someone said earlier I had 1.2.1

>
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