Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 & ViewSonic monitor resolution
Why are we getting this message 5 times? On Aug 20, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote: On Aug 18, 1:52 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: Try your wife's Acer monitor on the Mini, if you can... that's a good idea Bruce. I'll try that next time I'm down in Santa Barbara. On Aug 18, 5:25 pm, Clark Martin wrote: Open Display Preferences, with resolution set to 1920 x 1080 click on the Options tab. If it's there try clicking on the Overscan check box. Clark, I don't see an options tab in the 10.4.11 Display Preferences and yes I'm using DVI-DVI. On Aug 18, 2:33 pm, Kris Tilford wrote: The problem isn't with the display, the problem is with the G4 Mini's video card, it has a limitation that isn't common or well known Your argument is compelling Kris. View Sonic finally responded with a list of acceptable resolutions. 1600 x 1200 @ 60 Hz fills the screen but looks unacceptably stretched. VS sent me to their online driver download site, but no mac driver was listed The setup disc asked for one's OS, so presumably loaded the available driver. VS suggested I upgrade my videocard driver. The "ResEdit" option seems beyond my skill set. Anyway, I can live with the front and back doors until I can upgrade the Mini. In a couple of days I won't even notice them. The thing that will require far more adaptation is the tiny MenuBar font in the Finder MenuBar and in App MenuBars. Wandering around Google, I find others with the same, apparently unresolvable complaint. In most apps and browsers I can enlarge the Window fonts, but not the MenuBar Wonder if there's a hack for that? Maybe I'll have to become adept with the SwitchResX option afterall. I know there are customise-your-MenuBar apps but I don't see one that allows for Font size modification. And the really big problem is Quicken 2005, which does not seem to allow for Window Font size enlargements. I wonder if later versions do? Otherwise, I'm going to have to getcomputer eye glasses. Or it might even drive me back to my Dell 19". As always, everyone's kind attention and expert assistance is greatly appreciated. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 & ViewSonic monitor resolution
I have read complaints about repeated messages in several of the Mac discussions, and 5 seems to be the "magic number." People have been blaming each other for this matter, but it's obviously not one or two people playing around. My personal take on it is that it's a Google bug. In my case, I opted out of emails and just check these forums online, so I have not experienced it, but even so Google Groups has become to buggy that it has made Firefox and Opera very unstable to the point of being unusable. I had to return to Safari, which was never my favorite browser but has proved to be rock solid. On Aug 21, 11:55 am, Bill Connelly wrote: > Why are we getting this message 5 times? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 & ViewSonic monitor resolution
Gee I"m happy to see others complaining about this because I recently was accused by a Nannie (who I won't name here) of spamming and excessive quoting, when I asked for an explanation I was snarked. On Aug 21, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Ashgrove wrote: > I have read complaints about repeated messages in several of the Mac > discussions, and 5 seems to be the "magic number." People have been > blaming each other for this matter, but it's obviously not one or two > people playing around. My personal take on it is that it's a Google > bug. > > On Aug 21, 11:55 am, Bill Connelly wrote: >> Why are we getting this message 5 times? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 & ViewSonic monitor resolution
I think something is wrong with this google site??? -Original Message- >From: Bill Connelly >Sent: Aug 21, 2010 11:55 AM >To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 & ViewSonic monitor resolution > >Why are we getting this message 5 times? > > > > >On Aug 20, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote: > >> On Aug 18, 1:52 pm, Bruce Johnson >> wrote: >> >>> Try your wife's Acer monitor on the Mini, if you can... >> >> that's a good idea Bruce. I'll try that next time I'm down in Santa >> Barbara. >> >> On Aug 18, 5:25 pm, Clark Martin wrote: >>> Open Display Preferences, with resolution set to 1920 x 1080 click >> on the Options tab. If it's there try clicking on the Overscan check >> box. >> >> Clark, I don't see an options tab in the 10.4.11 Display Preferences >> and yes I'm using DVI-DVI. >> >> On Aug 18, 2:33 pm, Kris Tilford wrote: >> >>> The problem isn't with the display, the problem is with the G4 >>> Mini's video card, it has a limitation that isn't common or well >>> known >> >> Your argument is compelling Kris. >> View Sonic finally responded with a list of acceptable resolutions. >> 1600 x 1200 @ 60 Hz fills the screen but looks unacceptably stretched. >> VS sent me to their online driver download site, but no mac driver was >> listed >> The setup disc asked for one's OS, so presumably loaded the available >> driver. >> VS suggested I upgrade my videocard driver. >> >> The "ResEdit" option seems beyond my skill set. >> >> Anyway, I can live with the front and back doors until I can upgrade >> the Mini. >> In a couple of days I won't even notice them. >> >> The thing that will require far more adaptation is the tiny MenuBar >> font in the Finder MenuBar and in App MenuBars. >> Wandering around Google, I find others with the same, apparently >> unresolvable complaint. >> >> In most apps and browsers I can enlarge the Window fonts, but not the >> MenuBar >> Wonder if there's a hack for that? Maybe I'll have to become adept >> with the SwitchResX option afterall. >> I know there are customise-your-MenuBar apps but I don't see one that >> allows for Font size modification. >> >> And the really big problem is Quicken 2005, which does not seem to >> allow for Window Font size enlargements. >> I wonder if later versions do? Otherwise, I'm going to have to >> getcomputer eye glasses. >> Or it might even drive me back to my Dell 19". >> >> As always, everyone's kind attention and expert assistance is greatly >> appreciated. >> >> Cliff >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a >> group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a >> particular focus on Power Macs. >> The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our >> netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml >> To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > >-- >You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for >those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power >Macs. >The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette >guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml >To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 & ViewSonic monitor resolution
On Aug 21, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Ashgrove wrote: > I have read complaints about repeated messages in several of the Mac > discussions, and 5 seems to be the "magic number." People have been > blaming each other for this matter, but it's obviously not one or two > people playing around. My personal take on it is that it's a Google > bug. Yeah it's been intermittently hitting me. It's a Google issue, absolutely. -- Bruce Johnson "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 & ViewSonic monitor resolution
On Aug 21, 10:51 am, Bruce Johnson wrote: > Yeah it's been intermittently hitting me. It's a Google issue, absolutely. First of all let me apologize for any culpability I may have. I wanted to edit my last post and tried "removing" the initial post. It took several tries before I seemed to get a removal, then the digest this morning had 7 copies of my post. eeek. Also, I wonder if the manner in which I've been composing effects this multiple post thing. That is, I respond to a specific message, copy the "On 'date', 'name' and desired quote. Discard the reply Then past into a reply to the last post, e.g. below Wonder if this generates confusion for Google. In any case, sorry for the clutter. Back to the resolution thing: On Aug 20, 8:01 pm, Kris Tilford wrote: the VGA port also works, and these two will have DIFFERENT > choices of resolution/refresh combinations. You may want to try a > different cable and see if the other port gives you what you want. Kris, I'm embarrassed to say that looking more closely at the monitor I notice I actually already have a DVI/VGA adapter installed My previous Del 19" was VGA. Based on your experience, it doesn't seem to make sense to try a straight DVI connection. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 & ViewSonic monitor resolution
On Aug 21, 10:51 am, Bruce Johnson wrote: > Yeah it's been intermittently hitting me. It's a Google issue, absolutely. First of all let me apologize for any culpability I may have. I wanted to edit my last post and tried "removing" the initial post. It took several tries before I seemed to get a removal, then the digest this morning had 7 copies of my post. eeek. Also, I wonder if the manner in which I've been composing effects this multiple post thing. That is, I respond to a specific message, copy the "On 'date', 'name' and desired quote. Discard the reply Then past into a reply to the last post, e.g. below Wonder if this generates confusion for Google. In any case, sorry for the clutter. Back to the resolution thing: On Aug 20, 8:01 pm, Kris Tilford wrote: the VGA port also works, and these two will have DIFFERENT > choices of resolution/refresh combinations. You may want to try a > different cable and see if the other port gives you what you want. Kris, I'm embarrassed to say that looking more closely at the monitor I notice I actually already have a DVI/VGA adapter installed My previous Del 19" was VGA. Based on your experience, it doesn't seem to make sense to try a straight DVI connection. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
eSATA transfer speed
Hi All I recently installed a SeriTek 1V4 in my PM G4 and PM G5 the transfer speed is 88 sec's per GB on a 114 GB CCC. I was under the impression it would a lot faster than this I seem to remember a 3 GB per min claim. Is it possible I'm doing something wrong? Both HDD's are 2TB 7200 RPM Hitahci's in the PM G5. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: eSATA transfer speed
On Aug 21, 2010, at 4:58 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > Hi All > > I recently installed a SeriTek 1V4 in my PM G4 and PM G5 the transfer speed > is 88 sec's per GB on a 114 GB CCC. I was under the impression it would a > lot faster than this I seem to remember a 3 GB per min claim. Is it possible > I'm doing something wrong? Both HDD's are 2TB 7200 RPM Hitahci's in the PM G5. > > You can only go as fast as the drive can read or write, whichever drive is slower. 3Gb/s is the maximum transfer rate the interface is capable of. Translates out to roughly 300MB/s. The fastest hard drives on the market are only capable of reading at around 80MB/s and writing at around 65MB/s sustained transfer. When you're running CCC, you're also having the processor get involved reading, checking, and verifying permissions and metadata on every single file copied and parsed. If you have a bunch of little files, it'll take MUCH longer than when you're running large single files like DVD ISO's or large movies. That said, I've always found Hitachi drives to be much slower than other brands on the market, so you're likely in the ballpark of what your system is capable of doing with the hardware you have installed. The 1V4 you have is also the 1.5Gb/s version, limited to a maximum controller throughput of 150MB/s theoretical maximum. If you've got both drives attached to the same card, you can insert a bunch of hardware interrupts, etc, and you can see how it'll slow down. SATA isn't magic. It's still bound by the abilities of the hardware connected to it. All current SATA drives have the SATAII interface which is capable of 3.0Gb/s (not to be confused with GB/s) yet we still have yet to see a drive capable of outperforming the original SATA interface. Just be patient, it'll go as fast as it's capable of going! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mini G4 10.4.11 & ViewSonic monitor resolution
On Aug 21, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote: Kris, I'm embarrassed to say that looking more closely at the monitor I notice I actually already have a DVI/VGA adapter installed My previous Del 19" was VGA. Based on your experience, it doesn't seem to make sense to try a straight DVI connection. I'm not sure I understand. If the cable you have is a DVI-D cable, then by all means use it directly from the DVI port on the Mini to the DVI port on the monitor without the VGA adapter at the monitor. If the cable is a VGA cable, and you have a DVI-to-VGA at the Mini, then you're stuck unless you buy a DVI cable, which should give a slightly crisper image on the monitor, as well as different sets of resolution/refresh rates. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: eSATA transfer speed
That doesn't seem right. On my Mac Mini I can get 18/19 MB per second (~1.1 GB per minute) copying from one SATA drive in a USB enclosure to another SATA drive in a USB enclosure and almost 35MB per second (~2.1 GB per minute) copying from said external to the 5400RMP internal. Perhaps its a PCI thing? John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I recently installed a SeriTek 1V4 in my PM G4 and PM G5 the transfer speed is 88 sec's per GB on a 114 GB CCC. I was under the impression it would a lot faster than this I seem to remember a 3 GB per min claim. Is it possible I'm doing something wrong? Both HDD's are 2TB 7200 RPM Hitahci's in the PM G5. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: eSATA transfer speed
At 2:58 PM -0700 8/21/2010, John Carmonne wrote: I recently installed a SeriTek 1V4 in my PM G4 and PM G5 the transfer speed is 88 sec's per GB on a 114 GB CCC. I was under the impression it would a lot faster than this I seem to remember a 3 GB per min claim. Is it possible I'm doing something wrong? Both HDD's are 2TB 7200 RPM Hitahci's in the PM G5. SeriTek 1V4 is SATA I, 1.5 Gbps burst, 150 MB/sec (1.2 Gbps) nominal on a good day. eSATA, by its nature, runs a bit slower. What model Hitachi drives? Exactly what type of backup were you doing? File or block oriented? Virgin or a merge into an existing volume? Recall that CCC isn't just copying data - it's also comparing and building file system on the target... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: eSATA transfer speed
On Aug 21, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Dan wrote: SeriTek 1V4 is SATA I, 1.5 Gbps burst, 150 MB/sec (1.2 Gbps) nominal on a good day. This isn't exactly right. Copied below are replies from FirmTek support about their SeriTek line of SATA I controllers, which would seem to support SATA II speeds in almost all circumstances where such speed is available: Kris Tilford asked FirmTek Support: Does Firmtek make a SATA II 3.0 Gbps PCI-X card with 2 internal and 2 external ports that boots in a G5 PPC PowerMac? I own a SeriTek/1VE2+2 which is SATA I 1.5 Gbps and have been happy with it. I'd like to upgrade to SATA II if possible? Michael from FirmTek Support replied: Your existing SeriTek/1VE2+2 will work with both SATA I and SATA II HDs. The only reason this card is not classified as a SATA II controller is that it does not support a seldom-used Serial ATA feature called SSC which is turned off by default on all currently selling HD models. Kris Tilford responded: If the SeriTek/1VE2+2 was truly SATA II rather than SATA I, wouldn't I see an increase going from SATA I to SATA II? Michael from FirmTek Support replied: No, That is not the case. If you read SATA II specs it may mislead you. The hard drive performance is the sole determining factor for performance. No single hard drive can provide high enough performance to show the difference between a SATA I and a SATA II interface. To see the difference a 3-4 drive striped RAID set is required which can provide 300MB/sec performance. With a 4-drive RAID set a slow SATA I controller will be limited to 150MB/sec performance. The 2+2 card will provide SATA II 250-300MB/sec performance with four disks in a RAID 0. The bottom line is the card you have will provide SATA II performance. However, SSC will need to be disabled. (Which is the case with all new hard disks,) The SATA I versus SATA II feature does not allow a HD to go faster because it is limited to 60-100MB/sec depending on the HD model. However, it will allow a 4- disk RAID 0 to perform faster. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Digital Audio Processor Swap
Hey all, I have read through some of the older threads for info, but could not find anything quite like this so here goes: I have a G4 digital audio 466mhz system that I would like to do some upgrades to, but nothing extreme. I want to start out by speeding it up a little, so I bought a used processor out of a 733mhz Quicksilver system. A friend of mine told me it "Could be made to work" so, I bought it. Now, I didn't get the heatsink and fan with it. So can the old 466 cooler be modded with a fan to work? Or, will I have to keep looking for the QS 733 goods. At present there aren't any on e-bay. I can still run the Mac as it is and wait if I have to, and I have not test fitted or altered anything yet. I am putting this machine together on the cheap just to have something to mess with, but at the same time I don't want to damage anything by overheating it out of stupidity either. LOL I am going to be doing some other upgrades later, but wanted to get a faster processor first. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: eSATA transfer speed
On Aug 21, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Dan wrote: > At 2:58 PM -0700 8/21/2010, John Carmonne wrote: >> I recently installed a SeriTek 1V4 in my PM G4 and PM G5 the transfer speed >> is 88 sec's per GB on a 114 GB CCC. I was under the impression it would a >> lot faster than this I seem to remember a 3 GB per min claim. Is it possible >> I'm doing something wrong? Both HDD's are 2TB 7200 RPM Hitahci's in the PM >> G5. > > SeriTek 1V4 is SATA I, 1.5 Gbps burst, 150 MB/sec (1.2 Gbps) nominal on a > good day. > > eSATA, by its nature, runs a bit slower. > > What model Hitachi drives? > > Exactly what type of backup were you doing? File or block oriented? Virgin > or a merge into an existing volume? Recall that CCC isn't just copying data > - it's also comparing and building file system on the target... > Virgin copy with CCC 114 GB DVD images and toast images is taking 2.8 hours I think USB will do that but I haven't tried that to be sure. The enclosure for the eSATA drive is an inexpensive SABERENT USB eSATA IDE & SATA model could that be a problem? The machine is a PM G5 Dual 2.7. The Drives are as follows http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145298 John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: eSATA transfer speed
> > This isn't exactly right. Copied below are replies from FirmTek support about > their SeriTek line of SATA I controllers, which would seem to support SATA II > speeds in almost all circumstances where such speed is available: > > Kris Tilford asked FirmTek Support: > Does Firmtek make a SATA II 3.0 Gbps PCI-X card with 2 internal and 2 > external ports that boots in a G5 PPC PowerMac? > I own a SeriTek/1VE2+2 which is SATA I 1.5 Gbps and have been happy > with it. I'd like to upgrade to SATA II if possible? > The bottom line is the card you have will provide SATA II performance. However, SSC will need to be disabled. (Which is the case with all new hard disks,) The SATA I versus SATA II feature does not allow a HD to go faster because it is limited to 60-100MB/sec depending on the HD model. However, it will allow a 4-disk RAID 0 to perform faster. > Does disabling the drives mean faster performance? Or am I reading this wrong? I don't want to deal with RAID I want all my Drives single attached Just for laughs I'll do the same CCC on two of the internal drives and another one using USB 2.0 to see what's up with this eSATA stuff. The Seritek 1V4 card is not a waste for me because I needed it for the Jive 5 in the machine and it left 1 port that makes for a handy eSATA port. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list