Re: airport card on g4 500 sawtooth agp

2010-09-30 Thread Ashgrove
A simple fix is just taking it out and putting it back, trying to go
all the way in until it clicks. Also, make sure the antenna is all the
way in. Airport cards are tricky that way.

Good luck,

Felix

On Sep 30, 1:07 am, G-Group junman...@gmail.com wrote:
 my g4 500 titanium powerbook died on me so i took out the airport card
 and installed it on my g4 500 sawtooth desktop mac. i also added a
 120gb hd as well as upgraded the cpu...sonnett??? my problem is with
 the airport card, it's not being recognized. has anyone run into this
 problem? thanks in advance for any help you can give.

 jun

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Re: Another Quicksilver Question

2010-09-30 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote:


 On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

  I have a question regarding the CD-ROM drive
  Whenever I put in a CD with stuff on it (NOT a CD you buy with music on
 it) it is a crap shoot if the machine will recognize it. Some it gives me
 two options (Ignore or Eject) and some it never says anything nor do they
 show up on my desktop. One I have in right now that I know has photos on it
 doesn't show up). How do I rectify this?

 Sounds like a dirty drive.  Does it perform similarly with both CD and DVD
 disks?  Drives use separate lasers for each type of disk.


I have tried:
DVD-RW (4.7 GB, doesn't show up at all)
CD-RW (shows up as Empty. 650 MB)
CD-R (4 show they has music on them, 1 is the one with pics on it. It
doesn't show up)
  All are 700 MB. The one that I tell it to Ignore it says cannot be
read by this machine

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Re: Another Quicksilver Question

2010-09-30 Thread Bill Connelly


On Sep 30, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:


I have a question regarding the CD-ROM drive
Whenever I put in a CD with stuff on it (NOT a CD you buy with music  
on it) it is a crap shoot if the machine will recognize it. Some it  
gives me two options (Ignore or Eject) and some it never says  
anything nor do they show up on my desktop. One I have in right now  
that I know has photos on it doesn't show up). How do I rectify this?

Here is what System Profiler says about my unit

HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B:



Maybe you need a firmware upgrade:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=122023

or its beginning to break down.

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Re: Tiger won't ichat on G4 or G5 PPC's?

2010-09-30 Thread John Markowitz


 iChat works just fine on my system (Tiger, fully updated).  It and
 Adium even talk at each other.

 You gots a hole in your firewall enabled for iChat Bonjour?

 You gots separate AIM or .Mac accounts for each login session?

 Have you tried trashing prefs and such?
I have found that Tiger and iChat only work on G speed routers or a
direct connection to the modem the Apple Airport Base Stations with G/
N speeds do work however I believe the Tiger iChat picks the G side of
that device. The Leopard iChat works on all routers that I've had.

John M
Placentia CA

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RE: Another Quicksilver Question possible dirty lense on drive.

2010-09-30 Thread Stephen Rudy
Dirty lens is my first guess. Get yourself one of those DVD drive cleaning 
disks with the little microfiber brushes sticking up on it. Cheaper than a 
drive, plus you can run it in your other optical drives around the house.
Something like this: 
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2361964CAWELAID=107592290


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On Sep 30, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

 I have a question regarding the CD-ROM drive
 Whenever I put in a CD with stuff on it (NOT a CD you buy with music  
 on it) it is a crap shoot if the machine will recognize it. Some it  
 gives me two options (Ignore or Eject) and some it never says  
 anything nor do they show up on my desktop. One I have in right now  
 that I know has photos on it doesn't show up). How do I rectify this?
 Here is what System Profiler says about my unit

 HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B:


Maybe you need a firmware upgrade:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=122023

or its beginning to break down.

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Re: Digital Audio DP467mhz worth upgrading, and how?

2010-09-30 Thread Alex
I would go ahead and hot rod it by maxing out the RAM and getting a
processor upgrade. Or you could just buy a faster Powermac. I got a DP
800MHz Quicksilver from eBay for $40.

On Sep 29, 10:32 pm, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote:
 There was no dual 667MHZ or 467MHZ according to mac tracker. There was a
 466MHZ, 533MHZ, dual 533MHZ, 667MHZ, and a 733MHZ.

 Cool thing about these machines is that you can put a Quicksilver Processor
 in it, with one simply modification. I put a 733MHZ QS processor in a single
 533MHZ DA and overclocked it to 800MHZ. It is happily running Leopard.

 Also, you can TOTALLY run Tiger on 256MB ram, I've run Tiger on 128MB of ram
 on a G3 iBook and it ran a little slow, but usable.

 The DA will take an airport card, but you are better off in every way
 possible getting a third party airport extreme compatible PCI card.

 I would work on the DA. With some upgrading, you could have a sweet machine.

 -Jonas

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Re: Digital Audio DP467mhz worth upgrading, and how?

2010-09-30 Thread JoeTaxpayer
I second this. The Dual MDD 1.0 or 1.25 GHz are the sweet spot for
performance. They can be had with 2GB memory (that's worth about $100)
for the mid $100 range if you look, track recent sales and are
patient. With no card upgrades, they only need a USB2.0 card (you want
to sync an iPod on USB1.0? I think not.)
They run Leopard nicely, and the only slow down I see is the video
encode. My new Pro is 4-8X faster on video, but at 20X the price. I
still run my G4 right next to it. I love that gal.

On Sep 30, 12:22 am, Michael G.M. michaelgm717...@gmail.com wrote:

 I personally would look to ebay for a faster G4 (If that's what you're
 really interested in). For the price you'd pay to upgrade that DA you
 could acquire a lot better hardware for a fraction of the cost and be
 more satisfied with your purchases. You should make a budget of what
 you can actually pay and what you are willing to pay at the most.

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Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800

2010-09-30 Thread Ashgrove
On Sep 28, 3:46 pm, Alex kab...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, it is a Quicksilver model. And I'm getting an ATI Radeon 9600 card
 from ebay.

Whatever you do, don't get a graphics card from somebody in China. I
checked the prices and surprisingly the flashed Geforce 6200 have
basically disappeared. If I were you, though, I would go with a Radeon
9800 Pro. It's better than the 9600 and you can find it for about the
same price.


 If I do run Leopard I will try LeopardAssist for the
 install, though I think it's weird that Apple will let a 867 MHz
 single processor Quicksilver run Leopard but it won't let an 800 MHz
 dual processor Quicksilver which gets much better benchmarks run
 Leopard.

My thoughts exactly. Be prepared for quirks, though; I did a clean
Leopard install from another computer using target disk mode, and my
dual 800Mhz Quicksilver wouldn't boot from it. It, however, boots fine
from a HDD with 10.5.8 on it...

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Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800

2010-09-30 Thread Alex
Ok. I haven't bought the graphics card yet so I'll try to find that
one. Did you do the install from an Intel Mac? If you did that would
be the problem.

On Sep 30, 11:12 am, Ashgrove salum...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sep 28, 3:46 pm, Alex kab...@gmail.com wrote:

  Ok, it is a Quicksilver model. And I'm getting an ATI Radeon 9600 card
  from ebay.

 Whatever you do, don't get a graphics card from somebody in China. I
 checked the prices and surprisingly the flashed Geforce 6200 have
 basically disappeared. If I were you, though, I would go with a Radeon
 9800 Pro. It's better than the 9600 and you can find it for about the
 same price.

  If I do run Leopard I will try LeopardAssist for the
  install, though I think it's weird that Apple will let a 867 MHz
  single processor Quicksilver run Leopard but it won't let an 800 MHz
  dual processor Quicksilver which gets much better benchmarks run
  Leopard.

 My thoughts exactly. Be prepared for quirks, though; I did a clean
 Leopard install from another computer using target disk mode, and my
 dual 800Mhz Quicksilver wouldn't boot from it. It, however, boots fine
 from a HDD with 10.5.8 on it...

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Re: airport card on g4 500 sawtooth agp

2010-09-30 Thread dc
On Sep 30, 1:07 am, G-Group junman...@gmail.com wrote:
my problem is with
 the airport card, it's not being recognized. has anyone run into this
 problem?

You didn't mention your OS but you may need to reinstall the airport
utility, check your utilities folder and see if it's there, see if it
can help you. Is it showing in Apple System Profiler?

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Re: Tiger won't ichat on G4 or G5 PPC's?

2010-09-30 Thread Clark Martin

On Sep 30, 2010, at 5:55 AM, John Markowitz wrote:

 
 
 iChat works just fine on my system (Tiger, fully updated).  It and
 Adium even talk at each other.
 
 You gots a hole in your firewall enabled for iChat Bonjour?
 
 You gots separate AIM or .Mac accounts for each login session?
 
 Have you tried trashing prefs and such?
 I have found that Tiger and iChat only work on G speed routers or a
 direct connection to the modem the Apple Airport Base Stations with G/
 N speeds do work however I believe the Tiger iChat picks the G side of
 that device. The Leopard iChat works on all routers that I've had.
 

iChat has no control over the router or wireless protocol that is used.  The OS 
and the Airport software is what determines that.

Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway

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Re: Another Quicksilver Question

2010-09-30 Thread Isaac Smith
 I have a question regarding the CD-ROM drive
 Whenever I put in a CD with stuff on it (NOT a CD you buy with music on it) 
 it is a crap shoot if the machine will recognize it. Some it gives me two 
 options (Ignore or Eject) and some it never says anything nor do they show 
 up on my desktop. One I have in right now that I know has photos on it 
 doesn't show up). How do I rectify this?
 Here is what System Profiler says about my unit
 
 HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B:

Are the disks you're trying to have it read commercially created, or have they 
been burnt by a regular computer CD burner? Sometimes the burner type causes 
problems.

If it's a blanket issue with reading disks, though, then you may have a dirty 
lens. Does the problem occur with music CDs? I noticed you made a distinction 
about that in your original post.

Yours,
Isaac

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Re: Another Quicksilver Question possible dirty lense on drive.

2010-09-30 Thread Kevin Barth
If you don't have one, email me privately.  I have tons and would be happy
to send you one.

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Stephen Rudy sr...@cudc.org wrote:

 Dirty lens is my first guess. Get yourself one of those DVD drive cleaning
 disks with the little microfiber brushes sticking up on it. Cheaper than a
 drive, plus you can run it in your other optical drives around the house.
 Something like this:
 http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2361964CAWELAID=107592290


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Re: Another Quicksilver Question

2010-09-30 Thread Tina K.

On 2010/09/29 22:51, Stephen Conrad wrote:

Whenever I put in a CD with stuff on it (NOT a CD you buy with music on
it) it is a crap shoot if the machine will recognize it. Some it gives
me two options (Ignore or Eject) and some it never says anything nor do
they show up on my desktop.


I have a similar issue with my USB 2 iMac. It sees factory pressed discs 
just fine but burned discs, even those that I burned on that very 
machine, it doesn't see 9 times out of 10.


I've used a 'cleaning' disk, and I've disassembled the ODD and cleaned 
it with a q-tip  isopropyl alcohol to no avail. I'm guessing that your 
CD-RW is fairly old anyway, for about $17 plus tax at NewEgg you can get 
a DVD-RW and probably save some time  effort.


Just my 2¢.

Tina

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Re: Annoyance #23

2010-09-30 Thread Joshua Juran

On Sep 30, 2010, at 8:05 AM, Charles Davis wrote:


G5 tower Dual 2Ghz, 2Gb RAM,

System Profiler provides this information:

and from USB string:
Picture 3.pngPicture 2.png



The problem, there is only ONE internal modem physically there.  
Naturally, I would prefer the V.92 one to be what is there, but  
where/what is the other info coming from?


The listings look suspiciously like two views of the same device.   
Notice how no field exists in both records.


Josh


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Re: Another Quicksilver Question

2010-09-30 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.netwrote:


 On Sep 30, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

  I have a question regarding the CD-ROM drive
 Whenever I put in a CD with stuff on it (NOT a CD you buy with music on
 it) it is a crap shoot if the machine will recognize it. Some it gives me
 two options (Ignore or Eject) and some it never says anything nor do they
 show up on my desktop. One I have in right now that I know has photos on it
 doesn't show up). How do I rectify this?
 Here is what System Profiler says about my unit

 HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B:


 Maybe you need a firmware upgrade:
 http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=122023

 or its beginning to break down.


It is an LG but from their site
*Sorry, no search results were found for GCE-8240B.*
Please double check your entry and try again.

I looked through heir CD-RW list and it is not listed at all.



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Re: Another Quicksilver Question

2010-09-30 Thread Kris Tilford

On Sep 30, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:


Maybe you need a firmware upgrade:


The latest firmware is v.1.19 available here:

http://files.rpc1.org/index.php?act=categoryid=535

You can check your firmware version in System Profiler.

You'll need a Windows PC to upgrade the firmware.

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Re: Another Quicksilver Question

2010-09-30 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:

 On Sep 30, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

  Maybe you need a firmware upgrade:


 The latest firmware is v.1.19 available here:

 http://files.rpc1.org/index.php?act=categoryid=535

 You can check your firmware version in System Profiler.

 You'll need a Windows PC to upgrade the firmware .


Another reason people don't like Macs
You need a Windows PC to do anything like make upgrades.

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Re: Annoyance #23

2010-09-30 Thread Charles Davis

Hi Josh:

Your right, because there IS only one device.  The question is WHY the  
different identifications, and where is the 'spurious' information  
coming from. I.I they ARE two views of the same device, Why are the  
listings different? And, what does it mean? and Why isn't there peace  
in the Middle East?, the World?


Chuck D.

On Sep 30, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Joshua Juran wrote:


On Sep 30, 2010, at 8:05 AM, Charles Davis wrote:


G5 tower Dual 2Ghz, 2Gb RAM,

System Profiler provides this information:

and from USB string:



The problem, there is only ONE internal modem physically there.  
Naturally, I would prefer the V.92 one to be what is there, but  
where/what is the other info coming from?


The listings look suspiciously like two views of the same device.   
Notice how no field exists in both records.


Josh



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Re: Another Quicksilver Question

2010-09-30 Thread Charles Lenington

On 9/30/10 12:09 AM, Clark Martin wrote:


On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:


I have a question regarding the CD-ROM drive
Whenever I put in a CD with stuff on it (NOT a CD you buy with music on it) it 
is a crap shoot if the machine will recognize it. Some it gives me two options 
(Ignore or Eject) and some it never says anything nor do they show up on my 
desktop. One I have in right now that I know has photos on it doesn't show up). 
How do I rectify this?


Sounds like a dirty drive.  Does it perform similarly with both CD and DVD 
disks?  Drives use separate lasers for each type of disk.


Hummm I didn't know dvds worked in a cdrom drive.

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Re: Another Quicksilver Question

2010-09-30 Thread Kris Tilford

On Sep 30, 2010, at 8:23 PM, Charles Lenington wrote:


Hummm I didn't know dvds worked in a cdrom drive.


Great catch, duh . . .

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Re: Annoyance #23

2010-09-30 Thread Joshua Juran

On Sep 30, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Charles Davis wrote:


Hi Josh:

Your right, because there IS only one device.  The question is WHY  
the different identifications, and where is the 'spurious'  
information coming from. I.I they ARE two views of the same device,  
Why are the listings different? And, what does it mean? and Why  
isn't there peace in the Middle East?, the World?


Because the players involved collectively prefer war.  The other  
question I can't answer.


Josh


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Re: airport card on g4 500 sawtooth agp

2010-09-30 Thread John Markowitz

On Sep 29, 2010, at 10:07 PM, G-Group wrote:

 my g4 500 titanium powerbook died on me so i took out the airport card
 and installed it on my g4 500 sawtooth desktop mac. i also added a
 120gb hd as well as upgraded the cpu...sonnett??? my problem is with
 the airport card, it's not being recognized. has anyone run into this
 problem? thanks in advance for any help you can give.
 
 jun
 

I had it happen on a G3 iMac and contact cleaner fixed the problem, be sure the 
card is fully seated also maybe zap the PRAM.

John M
Placentia CA
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Re: Another Quicksilver Question

2010-09-30 Thread John Markowitz

 
 I have tried:
 DVD-RW (4.7 GB, doesn't show up at all)
 CD-RW (shows up as Empty. 650 MB)
 CD-R (4 show they has music on them, 1 is the one with pics on it. It doesn't 
 show up)
   All are 700 MB. The one that I tell it to Ignore it says cannot be 
 read by this machine

Do you get the same errors with an external optical drive?


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Re: Tiger won't ichat on G4 or G5 PPC's?

2010-09-30 Thread John Markowitz


 iChat works just fine on my system (Tiger, fully updated).  It and
 Adium even talk at each other.

 You gots a hole in your firewall enabled for iChat Bonjour?

 You gots separate AIM or .Mac accounts for each login session?

 Have you tried trashing prefs and such?
I have found that Tiger and iChat only work on G speed routers or a
direct connection to the modem the Apple Airport Base Stations with G/
N speeds do work however I believe the Tiger iChat picks the G side of
that device. The Leopard iChat works on all routers that I've had.

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