Re: Mac Mail and Qwest HD Internet

[Brian Christmas]

On 11/12/2010, at 3:14 PM, Toves wrote:

> Hello, folks. Has anybody had experience with getting Mac's Mail
> client to interface with "mail.q.com"? I can send mail out via
> smtp.q.com, but Mac Mail times out on "port 587" when it tries to
> download mail.
> 
> We are using the Actiontec Q1000 modem/router with Qwest VDSL2
> service. Had no problems in the past sending or receiving mail via Cox
> cable service -- there also using a separate Linksys router and Moto
> modem.
> 
> P.S., Just trying to give Qwest a fair shake, that's all!

G'day

My Mail uses port 995, which I believe is the usual port.

Regards

Santa



And what, you ask, was the beginning of it all?
And it is this..
Existence that multiplied itself
For sheer delight of being
And plunged with numberless trillions of forms
So that it might
find
itself
innumerably

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Re: Mac Mail and Qwest HD Internet

[Dennis Myhand]

On 12/11/2010 2:47 AM, Brian Christmas wrote:


On 11/12/2010, at 3:14 PM, Toves wrote:


Hello, folks. Has anybody had experience with getting Mac's Mail
client to interface with "mail.q.com "? I can send 
mail out via
smtp.q.com , but Mac Mail times out on "port 587" 
when it tries to

download mail.

We are using the Actiontec Q1000 modem/router with Qwest VDSL2
service. Had no problems in the past sending or receiving mail via Cox
cable service -- there also using a separate Linksys router and Moto
modem.

P.S., Just trying to give Qwest a fair shake, that's all!


G'day

My Mail uses port 995, which I believe is the usual port.

Regards

Santa



Actually, the port most mail servers user to send mail to the client is 
110.  That is Pop3.  You can set the mail to be sent on any port you 
want.  That is not always wise, as is the case here.  What needs to be 
done is set the mail program to listen for mail on port 587.  There 
should be a way to do this.  There is with every mail program I have 
used.  Unfortunately, I have never used mail.  Lo siento, Dennis


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Re: Mac Mail and Qwest HD Internet

[Tina K.]

On 2010/12/10 21:14, Toves so eloquently wrote:

Hello, folks. Has anybody had experience with getting Mac's Mail
client to interface with "mail.q.com"? I can send mail out via
smtp.q.com, but Mac Mail times out on "port 587" when it tries to
download mail.


Are you using POP or IMAP protocol? The standard port for receiving mail 
on IMAP is 993, and SMTP sends mail on port 465 or 587. Also check with 
Qwest about SSL/TLS and secure authorization settings for receiving mail.


I think the POP ports are 25 for SMTP 110 for receiving but it's been a 
long time since I've used POP, and again you will need to check the 
SSL/TLS and secure authorization settings with Qwest. A Google search 
should provide the answers, or you can always roll the dice with 
"customer service."


Tina

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Fink

[Tina K.]

I've read the FAQ on the Fink project but I'm still not entirely clear 
on what exactly it is. Is it an operating environment a la Java, or an 
emulator like Virtual Box or Wine? Is it strictly a repository of ported 
apps with apt-get functionality, and if so why use apt-get instead of 
normal OS X installation? Or is it something else entirely?


Also has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with Fink?

Tina

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Re: MacAlly Combination Firewire/USB PCI Adapter card Compatibility ?

[Cliff Rediger]

> On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote:

> could comment on the likelihood of the 10.2
> > driver working with later OS versions up to 10.4 ?

On Dec 10, 10:05 am, John Carmonne  wrote:>
> I can send you off list, "Tiger 10.4.11" drivers to work with the card.
>
Thank you for that offer John.
Do you have "after-market" drivers (sort of speak)?

I'm told by the seller of the card the FH-UF2 card works  with 10.4.11
And, in an off list response Felix wrote: "In my experience, PCI FW
and/or USB cards are plug-and-play under
Tiger/Leopard, no drivers needed. It should "just work."

But, I posted the card on the LEM Swap list and a responded asked
about compatibility with OS 9

Macally offers a  (# USB Card Support 1.4.1for OS 9) driver for their
7 port USB2.0/FireWire PCI card (FH2-UF24)

Regrettably, Macally tech reports:
"Unfortunately the drivers applied to FH-UF2 are all posted on Macally
website, there has been no driver available for OS 9."

So, John, might you point me to a driver that would compatiblize the
FH-UF2 with OS 9 ?

Cliff



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Re: MacAlly Combination Firewire/USB PCI Adapter card Compatibility ?

[John Carmonne]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote:



Thank you for thatoffer John.
Do you have "after-market" drivers (sort of speak)?

I'm told by the seller of the card the FH-UF2 card works  with 10.4.11
And, in an off list response Felix wrote: "In my experience, PCI FW
and/or USB cards are plug-and-play under
Tiger/Leopard, no drivers needed. It should "just work."

Regrettably, Macally tech reports:
"Unfortunately the drivers applied to FH-UF2 are all posted on Macally
website, there has been no driver available for OS 9."

So, John, might you point me to a driver that would compatiblize the
FH-UF2 with OS 9 ?

Cliff

Are you using OS 9.2.2 ?
I take everything that says "USB and FW" from OS 9.2.2 Install disk   
and apply to the system extensions.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my TiBook 667





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Re: Mac Mail and Qwest HD Internet

[Clark Martin]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 5:50 AM, Dennis Myhand wrote:

> On 12/11/2010 2:47 AM, Brian Christmas wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/12/2010, at 3:14 PM, Toves wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, folks. Has anybody had experience with getting Mac's Mail
>>> client to interface with "mail.q.com"? I can send mail out via
>>> smtp.q.com, but Mac Mail times out on "port 587" when it tries to
>>> download mail.
>>> 

>>> 
>>> P.S., Just trying to give Qwest a fair shake, that's all!
>> 
>> G'day
>> 
>> My Mail uses port 995, which I believe is the usual port.
>> 

> Actually, the port most mail servers user to send mail to the client is 110.  
> That is Pop3.  You can set the mail to be sent on any port you want.  That is 
> not always wise, as is the case here.  What needs to be done is set the mail 
> program to listen for mail on port 587.  There should be a way to do this.  
> There is with every mail program I have used.  Unfortunately, I have never 
> used mail.  Lo siento, Dennis

Port 995 is the usual port when getting POP mail via SSL

The OP needs to check Qwest's help web pages to find the proper settings.
> 

Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
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Re: Fink

[Clark Martin]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Tina K. wrote:

> I've read the FAQ on the Fink project but I'm still not entirely clear on 
> what exactly it is. Is it an operating environment a la Java, or an emulator 
> like Virtual Box or Wine? Is it strictly a repository of ported apps with 
> apt-get functionality, and if so why use apt-get instead of normal OS X 
> installation? Or is it something else entirely?
> 
> Also has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with Fink?

It is a software repository with apt-get functionality, like MacPorts or 
DarwinPorts.  I think they do it this way for the *nix aficionados who like 
that way of installing software.

I haven't used fink but I have used MacPorts and it works okay.

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Re: Fink

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:49 AM, Tina K. wrote:

> I've read the FAQ on the Fink project but I'm still not entirely clear on 
> what exactly it is. Is it an operating environment a la Java, or an emulator 
> like Virtual Box or Wine? Is it strictly a repository of ported apps with 
> apt-get functionality, and if so why use apt-get instead of normal OS X 
> installation? Or is it something else entirely?


It's a way of installing *nux-based applications easily, downloading source 
code, managing prerequisites and dependencies, compiling and installing  all 
the required libraries and dependent packages automatically, and doing it in a 
way that Apple updates will not break the installed applications.

It is identical to what MacPorts (aka Darwinports) does; I think most of the 
up-to-date stuff has moved to the MacPorts project, but I could be wrong. Fink 
and Macports happily co-exist on a Mac, but you'll end up with duplicates of 
things like the Gnome libs because each installs in it's own directory 
structure.
 
All applications installed in this fashion either run on the command line or 
via X-Windows; this is *not* a way of installing Mac-native ports of these 
applications...if they have one of those, there should be standard Mac 
installers for them.

-- 
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Re: Fink

[Tina K.]

On 2010/12/11 13:42, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote:

All applications installed in this fashion either run on the command
line or via X-Windows


That makes sense, thanks for the explination. When you say X-Windows, 
would that be X-11?


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Re: Fink

[Kris Tilford]

I believe MacPorts is preferable to Fink. You need to have X11 and the  
Developer Tools (Xcode) installed. Then install MacPorts. MacPorts is  
command line from Terminal. As a GUI similar to Software Update I've  
been using Porticus, which is really nice and very simple to use.  
Porticus is better than Software Update because it shows the entire  
available software repository of MacPorts and allows you to select any  
available software for installation or deletion. It would sure be nice  
if Apple would improve Software Update to have an uninstall/deletion  
feature.


The problem with Apple is that if they decide to make an OS X software  
repository they'll want to control it completely the way they try to  
control iPod, iPhone, iPad software in iOS. Without any control so- 
called bad-apples can introduce malware into the software  
repositories, but with control Apple acts both as a gatekeeper and a  
toll collector. How long before the OS X App Store arrives, it can't  
be too far off.


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Re: Fink

[Tina K.]

On 2010/12/11 15:26, Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote:

I believe MacPorts is preferable to Fink.


Fink wouldn't install, it didn't like my permissions even after repair.


You need to have X11 and the
Developer Tools (Xcode) installed. Then install MacPorts. MacPorts is
command line from Terminal.


I finally got it to work, apparently the postflight script wasn't 
creating a proper profile so I had to do it manually.



As a GUI similar to Software Update I've
been using Porticus, which is really nice and very simple to use.
Porticus is better than Software Update because it shows the entire
available software repository of MacPorts and allows you to select any
available software for installation or deletion.


My primary purpose for installing Macports was to get kTorrent but thank 
you for suggesting Porticus, I will give it a look.



It would sure be nice
if Apple would improve Software Update to have an uninstall/deletion
feature.


I have mixed feelings about that. I like the idea in concept but it 
would need to be implemented better than MS did in XP.



The problem with Apple is that if they decide to make an OS X software
repository they'll want to control it completely the way they try to
control iPod, iPhone, iPad software in iOS. Without any control
so-called bad-apples can introduce malware into the software
repositories, but with control Apple acts both as a gatekeeper and a
toll collector.


Yes I like the current setup just fine. I have a pretty good idea what 
apps I can trust and it's not too hard to get references on those that I 
don't know. I don't want an app nanny to decide what I can and can't 
install on MY Mac.


How long before the OS X App Store arrives, it can't be

too far off.


I seem to remember seeing somewhere (Macworld?) that they were looking 
at January 2011, but that seems pretty fast. Needless to say I am not 
eagerly anticipating it!


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Clamshell Won't boot off CD

[Jonas Ulrich]

Hi all, I would really appreciate some input here.

I have a 366MHZ Graphite Clamshell. Pre-firewire model. I can't get it to
boot off any cd except the OS 9.0.4, and the original restore disc. I
installed 9.0.4 with no trouble, but the computer won't even read my 10.2,
or 10.3 installers. I updated the firmware to the latest version, but that
didn't help.

Any help would be great!

Thanks!
-Jonas

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Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

[Jonas Ulrich]

I just finished successfully replacing a hard drive in a 1.42GHZ eMac. I'm
still alive, and it didn't take me very long. I got to thinking about the
suggestion of bleeding the electricity out of the monitor, and I realized
that you are more likely to get zapped doing that than just replacing the
hard drive. It is very easy to avoid even touching the components of the CRT
monitor when replacing the hard drive. The only way you're going to get
zapped, is if you have no idea what you are doing, or you try to bleed it.

Just a thought.
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Re: Clamshell Won't boot off CD

[Kris Tilford]

Did you try the Option key boot?

I have this same iBook with 10.4.11, which if you can beat the  
artificial installer block will run fine without any modification.


One other thing, this iBook can boot from USB if necessary, but it's  
slow since it's USB 1.1.


Do you know how to reset the NVRAM and PMU? Both may be helpful with  
boot issues. These old clamshells are a little voodoo prone regarding  
booting. I've once rebooted many times in a row using the Option key  
until my OS X install CD was offered, but once it was offered, it  
booted fine, even from an external USB CD drive.


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Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

[James Therrault]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

I just finished successfully replacing a hard drive in a 1.42GHZ  
eMac. I'm still alive, and it didn't take me very long. I got to  
thinking about the suggestion of bleeding the electricity out of  
the monitor, and I realized that you are more likely to get zapped  
doing that than just replacing the hard drive. It is very easy to  
avoid even touching the components of the CRT monitor when  
replacing the hard drive. The only way you're going to get zapped,  
is if you have no idea what you are doing, or you try to bleed it.


Just a thought.
-Jonas



Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort.   
Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current...


JT




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Re: Clamshell Won't boot off CD

[Clark Martin]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

> Hi all, I would really appreciate some input here.
> 
> I have a 366MHZ Graphite Clamshell. Pre-firewire model. I can't get it to 
> boot off any cd except the OS 9.0.4, and the original restore disc. I 
> installed 9.0.4 with no trouble, but the computer won't even read my 10.2, or 
> 10.3 installers. I updated the firmware to the latest version, but that 
> didn't help.

It won't read as in boot from the HD, insert the CD and the CD doesn't show 
up???

What happens if you start up, insert the CD and hold down the option key?  The 
installer disk should appear.

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Re: Clamshell Won't boot off CD

[Jonas Ulrich]

I've reset the NVRAM. I'll try the PMU next. I've also zapped the pram. I'll
boot into os 9, and insert the installer cd, and it won't show up on the
desktop at all.

-Jonas

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Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service

[Dennis Myhand]

On 12/11/2010 8:20 PM, James Therrault wrote:



Even if you got zapped, it would only be a momentary discomfort.  
Lotsa voltage but notta lot of current...


JT

It only takes 50milliamps.  That isn't a lot as it is.

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Re: Clamshell Won't boot off CD

[Jonas Ulrich]

I tried resetting the pmu, and all the above suggestions. Nothing works. It
just sounds like it is trying really hard to read the cd, but it won't boot
off it or show up on the desktop.

-Jonas

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Re: Clamshell Won't boot off CD

[Kris Tilford]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

I'll boot into os 9, and insert the installer cd, and it won't show  
up on the desktop at all.


You sure your OS X discs are CD's and not DVDs?

Did you try the Option key boot with the OS X disc in the unit?

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Re: Clamshell Won't boot off CD

[Jonas Ulrich]

> You sure your OS X discs are CD's and not DVDs?
>
> Did you try the Option key boot with the OS X disc in the unit?

Yes I'm positive they are CDs. I have installed  OS X on other laptops
including a clamshell. I have tried the options key to no avail.

Thanks for all the input thus far!
-Jonas

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Re: Clamshell Won't boot off CD

[Clark Martin]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

>> You sure your OS X discs are CD's and not DVDs?
>> 
>> Did you try the Option key boot with the OS X disc in the unit?
> 
> Yes I'm positive they are CDs. I have installed  OS X on other laptops
> including a clamshell. I have tried the options key to no avail.


Time to check the CD and CD Drive for dirt.  

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Re: Clamshell Won't boot off CD

[Jonas Ulrich]

The CD is clean, and the drive reads the 9.0.4 installer perfectly.

-Jonas

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Re: Clamshell Won't boot off CD

[Daniel Stewart]

I would suggest popping a cleaning CD into the drive.  It might help.
I have had similar issues in the past and giving the drive a clean did
the trick even when it did not really seem like it should be the
problem.

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Jonas Ulrich  wrote:
> The CD is clean, and the drive reads the 9.0.4 installer perfectly.
>
> -Jonas
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Optical jumpers?

[Jeffrey Engle]

When using an optical in an external enclosure, what should the jumpers be set 
to? Master, slave or cable select?

Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536

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Re: Optical jumpers?

[daniel . stewart743]

Master usually is the setting you want.
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Subject: Optical jumpers?

When using an optical in an external enclosure, what should the jumpers be set 
to? Master, slave or cable select?

Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536

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Re: Optical jumpers?

[Justin The Cynical]

On 12/11/10 7:42 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
> When using an optical in an external enclosure, what should the jumpers be 
> set to? Master, slave or cable select?

I usually set it to master as it's the only device that is on the IDE
chain in said enclosure.

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Re: Clamshell Won't boot off CD

[Jonas Ulrich]

I don't have a cleaning CD, so I booted into OS9, and inserted several data
cd's. The computer couldn't read them and wanted to format them.

-Jonas

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Re: Clamshell Won't boot off CD

[Clark Martin]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote:

> I would suggest popping a cleaning CD into the drive.  It might help.
> I have had similar issues in the past and giving the drive a clean did
> the trick even when it did not really seem like it should be the
> problem.
> 
> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Jonas Ulrich  
> wrote:
>> The CD is clean, and the drive reads the 9.0.4 installer perfectly.


Time to invest in a cleaning CD.  That it reads only seems to read one disk 
says the drive needs cleaning.

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Re: Optical jumpers?

[Clark Martin]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

> When using an optical in an external enclosure, what should the jumpers be 
> set to? Master, slave or cable select?


Are you talking about a FW-IDE enclosure?  If that's the case then Master.  

If this is some kind of IDE external enclosure then the setting is dependent on 
what it is connected to it

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Re: Optical jumpers?

[Jeffrey Engle]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Clark Martin wrote:

> 
> On Dec 11, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
> 
>> When using an optical in an external enclosure, what should the jumpers be 
>> set to? Master, slave or cable select?
> 
> 
> Are you talking about a FW-IDE enclosure?  If that's the case then Master.  
> 
> If this is some kind of IDE external enclosure then the setting is dependent 
> on what it is connected to it
> 

This is the enclosure I'm using:  http://www.deltrontech.com/PDF/0502/E5.pdf 
I had the drive (Pioneer 118L) with the jumper set the cable select  (left it 
that way after pulling it out of the G4 MDD it was in previously)
And for some reason, I'm guessing the jumper setting, when importing a CD into 
itunes not only took what seemed like forever, but the drive spun up rather 
strangely??

Then after Daniel and others told me to set to Master, I needed to use 
handbrake to import a movie to iTunes and was pleasantly
surprised when it took a pleasing 16 mins to encode!  If my itunes CD import 
works as good, all is great in my world!:-)

Jeff Engle

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