Re: Screen Redraw Errors / Artifacts in Safari

2011-01-25 Thread pdimage
On 25/1/11 07:20, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote:

 Well ...
 
 I tried Reset  Safari to no avail, then tried disassembling my Mac,
 reseating all PCI cards (SATA and USB2) and memory after cleaning
 contacts.
 
 The streaking only appears regularly in Safari's Top Sites window.
 
 iTunes in Cover Flow doesn't show any issues.
 
 Don't know

I have an old sawtooth with a GeForce 5200 256MB agp card installed
(pins taped) which would not boot except in safe mode. The 5200 is CoreImage
and QuartzExtreme capable but these features are disabled in safe mode
resulting in some strange artifacts and banding in Safari on some web flash
content. I cured the boot problem, restoring both features and the screen
problems in Safari disappeared. Your problem may be that your card does not
support CoreImage. System Profiler under graphics/displays will show whether
CI - and Quartz - is supported. I think the minimum card required is agp
(not pci) Geforce 5200 or later - or for ATI cards Radeon 9500 or later.


Pete


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Re: PATA to SATA External HD Enclosures

2011-01-25 Thread skinnie
I used a item just like that one posted by the user Jeffrey  Daile
Engle,but it was bought on ebay for 3euros I guess,it worked like a
charm.

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Re: Sawtooth to Sabretooth: The CPU upgrade question

2011-01-25 Thread skinnie
Don't you need the latest firmware to run OSX?
I though so...

On Jan 23, 6:15 pm, faithie999 faithie...@hotmail.com wrote:
.  (in order to run the firmware updater to prepare for
 the new processor, the mac firmware needs to be at 4.2.8.  if you need
 to upgrade the firmware, it's still available on apple's download
 site.  however, the updater app only runs in OS9.  took me a couple of
 days to locate OS9 install disk and get it booted, and then to get the
 firmware updated.)

 ken

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Re: Mac Mini HDD speed

2011-01-25 Thread John Carmonne

On Jan 24, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

 On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:46 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote:
 
 why so hostile?
 
 Tired of dealing with guessing.
 
 Definitely faster? You sure?
 
 Yes, I'm sure.
 
 To confirm that from a 2nd source, look to the original poster who says:
 
 After a bunch of testing speeds not only is the external 7200 IDE FW 400 HDD 
 making the 1.25 Mini run faster than the ATA 4200 but Tiger is about 25% 
 faster than Leopard.
 
 Notice the word testing. I've also done this testing myself. Yes, I am sure.
 

I'm happy someone acknowledged my efforts these ten tests took most of the day, 
Now someone mentioned over-clocking the MOBO is there some step by step 
instructions so I can attempt it? Would that change the overall speeds 
including the FW 400?

Or do I need to start a new OP?

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
Sent from my MBP





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Re: Help needed for Mac Powerbook M7572, reload

2011-01-25 Thread John Carmonne

On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

 On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote:
 
 I did a dumb thing, I wiped the hard drive
 of this computer instead of writing all 0's.
 
 This doesn't make sense because writing all 0's is wiping the hard drive. You 
 meant you wrote all zeros and wiped the HD.
 
 Now I can't reload an operating system.
 
 
 I have tried several ways including using an external DVD reader.
 
 I want to reload Mac OS10.3.2 Panther
  then OSX10.4 Tiger, both of which I have.
 
 You don't need to reinstall Panther unless your 10.4 DVD is an upgrade DVD? 
 Even then, you could convert the upgrade DVD into a full install DVD and skip 
 the Panther, but that may be too much work.
 
 Boot either install DVD. Go to Disk Utility and Partition the HD into one 
 partition with the Option of Apple Partition Format and HFS+ extended 
 (journaled) file system. Then quit Disk Utility and run the installer 
 normally. If you can't boot the DVD from the internal optical drive, to boot 
 from an external Firewire you can hold the Option key while the external is 
 powered up with the DVD in the unit already. If you're trying to boot from 
 USB this probably won't work on a PPC PowerBook, USB booting is generally 
 Intel only and early colored iBooks and iMacs.
 
One way around the USB external optical drive boot is to boot OS9 on the 
internal optical drive then choose startup disk and it'll show the USB DVD and 
you can boot it.

John Carmonne
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92886 USA
Sent from my MBP





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G4 Shut Down

2011-01-25 Thread Stephen Conrad
Sometime early this morning my G4 shut down
This is all I could find in Console that was not data from after i rebooted
It was under System logs

Jan 25 03:15:07 steve-cs-power-mac-g4 cp: error processing extended
attributes: Operation not permitted

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Re: Screen Redraw Errors / Artifacts in Safari

2011-01-25 Thread Dan

At 2:20 AM -0500 1/25/2011, Bill Connelly wrote:

On Jan 24, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Dan wrote:

At 12:52 PM -0500 1/23/2011, Bill Connelly wrote:
I'm using the latest Safari under 10.5.8. A Geforce 4MX video card 
in my Digital Audio Dual 533. I've begun getting errors in the 
background of Top Sites. Screen isn't fully black, containing 
streaks and such. Is it my video card / old Sony G420 CRT monitor 
/ Safari? Haven't seen it anywhere else that I can remember.


Could be that the top sites cache is corrupted.  Try resetting the 
caches - select Reset Safari from the Safari menu and check the 
items to clear the top sites, the previews, and the cache.


If that doesn't fix... When the artifacts appear, take a screen 
snapshot (cmd-shift-3) then view that picture.  If the artifacts 
are in the picture then there's something foo on your Mac.  If the 
artifacts aren't there, then they're being produced in the video 
card.  Then perhaps try reseating the card?  Clean the cable 
connectors?


Well ...

I tried Reset  Safari to no avail, then tried disassembling my Mac, 
reseating all PCI cards (SATA and USB2) and memory after cleaning 
contacts.


iTunes in Cover Flow doesn't show any issues.

The streaking only appears regularly in Safari's Top Sites window.


Please send me a screen snapshot showing the problem.

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Re: Mac Mini HDD speed

2011-01-25 Thread Dan

At 3:05 PM -0800 1/24/2011, John Carmonne wrote:

Would [over-clocking] change the overall speeds including the FW 400?


Over-clocking increases the speed of the cpu and perhaps the memory 
bus (since its speed is usually a multiple of the cpu's).


It does not change the speed of the i/o buses or their interfaces.

Will it increase i/o throughput?  Perhaps.  The cpu has to set up the 
i/o requests, respond when completed, set up the next ones, respond, 
set up, respond, etc.  The faster it can do that, the less WAIT time 
there is between operations...  A busy bus is a happy bus.


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Re: G4 Shut Down

2011-01-25 Thread Dan

At 7:50 AM -0600 1/25/2011, Stephen Conrad wrote:

Sometime early this morning my G4 shut down
This is all I could find in Console that was not data from after i rebooted
It was under System logs

Jan 25 03:15:07 steve-cs-power-mac-g4 cp: error processing extended 
attributes: Operation not permitted


Ok.  That is the message put into the system log after it has been 
rolled over by Apple's daily maintenance script.  The failure 
occurred some time after that, and was so sudden that the logger 
never got a chance to record anything.


Check for some crash and panic logs, just in case something had a 
chance to yell i die!.


When there's nothing in the log, that typically means the failure 
occurred really quickly - so it was probably power (house, surge 
protector, UPS, or power supply) or heat related.  ... Usually, when 
the power manager initiates a shutdown because of a thermal problem, 
a message is thrown to the log.  But not always...


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Re: Screen Redraw Errors / Artifacts in Safari

2011-01-25 Thread Bill Connelly


On Jan 25, 2011, at 4:15 AM, pdimage wrote:


   I have an old sawtooth with a GeForce 5200 256MB agp card installed
(pins taped) which would not boot except in safe mode. The 5200 is  
CoreImage

and QuartzExtreme capable but these features are disabled in safe mode
resulting in some strange artifacts and banding in Safari on some  
web flash
content. I cured the boot problem, restoring both features and the  
screen
problems in Safari disappeared. Your problem may be that your card  
does not
support CoreImage. System Profiler under graphics/displays will show  
whether
CI - and Quartz - is supported. I think the minimum card required is  
agp
(not pci) Geforce 5200 or later - or for ATI cards Radeon 9500 or  
later.





Sounds like a possibility ...

It has CI Software Support:

NVIDIA GeForce4 MX:

  Chipset Model:GeForce4 MX
  Type: Display
  Bus:  AGP
  Slot: SLOT-1
  VRAM (Total): 64 MB
  Vendor:   NVIDIA (0x10de)
  Device ID:0x0171
  Revision ID:  0x00a3
  ROM Revision: 1091

  Displays:

CPD-G420S:
  Resolution:   1280 x 960 @ 85 Hz
  Depth:32-Bit Color
  Core Image:   Software
  Main Display: Yes
  Mirror:   Off
  Online:   Yes
  Quartz Extreme:   Supported

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Re: Mac Mini HDD speed

2011-01-25 Thread t...@io.com


On Jan 24, 8:58 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:

 I learned this THE HARD WAY, I actually BOUGHT FW800 enclosures  
 expecting them to be TWICE AS FAST as my old FW400 enclosures, but  
 when I TESTED THEM, they were the SAME SPEED, not because they're not  
 CAPABLE of twice as fast, but because you'd need a RAID of multiple  
 HDs to saturate the connection. This whole 1.5 Gbps or 3.0 Gbps thing  
 for individual HDs is 100% hype. No single HD can sustain anything  
 near that rate. Mechanical LATENCY is the reason. It doesn't matter  
 how fast the electronics can move bits when the mechanical parts can't  
 move equally as fast.

grinning   I learned this exact same lesson in the mid-90s.   On
Nubus machines...

I finally had a PPC NuBus machine (8100 clone) and a I got the holy
grail of interface cards, the FWB Jackhammer Fast  Wide SCSI card.
I had an assortment of ST32550 drives, some N (narrow, 50 pin) and
some W (wide, 68 pin).   The 32550 was the latest, fastest Barracuda
from Seagate and was amongst the very first 7200 RPM drive available.

A single ST32550W on the JackHammer really didn't provide any better
performance than a single ST32550N on the built-in busses, even though
the specifications say 20MB/s vs. 10MB/s.   What!   But it should be
so much faster!

Then I built a RAID of four ST32550W on the JackHammer.   I got maybe
8MB/s actual performance out of it.It was actually faster to have
a RAID of two ST32550W drives than it was to have four of them.

I ultimately found that the fastest RAID was two ST32550Ws on the
JackHammer, one ST32550N on the built-in Fast SCSI bus, and one
ST32550N on the built-in non-Fast bus.   That got me about 12MB/s or
twice what a single drive could deliver.

Anyway, point is, sure the electronics could do 20 MB/s (maybe) but
the drives back then could only output maybe 6 MB/s each and as one
tried to gang those up in a RAID, inefficiencies in the infrastructure
ate up a lot of the potential performance.

Of course, drives today are almost ten times faster (more than?) but
the principles haven't changed a bit.A 133 MB/s interface doesn't
matter one wit, if the drive can only deliver 70MB/s of data.

Jeff Walther

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Re: frivolous question

2011-01-25 Thread Alex Barnes
I think that there is a copy on macintoshgarden.org
On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:42 PM, ah...clem wrote:

 another lister mentioned wanting to run some vintage apps, and it
 brought to mind one VERY vintage app - After Dark.  tho it's a stoopid
 waste of time and resources, i just have to ask - does anyone know
 whatever happened to berkeley software?  or if there is a current
 version of after dark (i can't find one), or a way to get them old
 after dark screensavers to run in OSX?  i miss my flying
 toasters.  :'o(
 
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wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread akhoff18
I recently acquired a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver (867mHZ, 1.25 gb RAM)
and am in the process of upgrading and updating it. I've got most
things on my list accomplished but I'm somewhat confused about what
type of wireless would be best for this machine.

From what I've read online it seems as though the Airport Card is the
best way to go, as it was designed for this model (they are rather
expensive unfortunately). However, on a recent trip to the Apple Store
an employee told me I could simply buy a USB adapter for wireless and
it would work just the same. I'm basically looking for a reasonably
priced, yet efficient way of getting wireless for my desktop.

Thanks so much!

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Re: wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread bittin
i just bought a D-link DWA-140 for my MDD and that works fine with the Ralink 
Wireless Utility drivers :) 

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Re: wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread peterhaas

 I recently acquired a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver (867mHZ, 1.25 gb RAM)
 and am in the process of upgrading and updating it. I've got most
 things on my list accomplished but I'm somewhat confused about what
 type of wireless would be best for this machine.

If you want 100 percent Airport Extreme (802.11b/g) compatibility for the
lowest possible cost, then the solution is available on ePrey (sic) for
about US$10.

First, you need a Mini-PCI (NO, not a Mini-PCI-e) Broadcom WiFi card.
These cards are intended for use in Dell and similar laptops. Most of the
laptop manufacturers have gone to a Mini-PCI-e WiFi card, which explains
the low cost of these cards.

Second, you need a Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter which includes an R-SMA
connector and cable.

Finally, you need an R-SMA antenna.

All of the above can be had for about US$10, total, although probably not
all from the same seller.

These products are often sold with shipping included in the price, usually
shipped from Hong Kong or Singapore.

I have about ten of these installed in systems.

So far, no DOAs or other defects.

About This Mac ... reports this system thusly:


  Software Versions:
  Menu Extra:   6.2.1 (621.1)
  configd plug-in:  6.2.3 (623.2)
  System Profiler:  6.0 (600.9)
  Network Preference:   6.2.1 (621.1)
  AirPort Utility:  5.5.2 (552.11)
  IO80211 Family:   3.1.2 (312)
  Interfaces:
en0:
  Card Type:Third-Party Wireless Card
  Supported PHY Modes:  802.11 b/g
  Supported Channels:   1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13
  Current Network Information:
  PHY Mode: 802.11g
  BSSID:0:50:18:4f:51:f8
  Network Type: Infrastructure
  Security: WPA Personal
  Signal / Noise:   -72 dBm / -93 dBm
  Transmit Rate:24




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Re: Mac Mini HDD speed

2011-01-25 Thread peterhaas

 Of course, drives today are almost ten times faster (more than?) but
 the principles haven't changed a bit.A 133 MB/s interface doesn't
 matter one wit, if the drive can only deliver 70MB/s of data.

And, the internal performance of some drives is as low as 40 MB/s.



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Re: frivolous question

2011-01-25 Thread Yersinia

 On 1/24/11 6:42 PM, ah...clem wrote:

another lister mentioned wanting to run some vintage apps, and it
brought to mind one VERY vintage app - After Dark.  tho it's a stoopid
waste of time and resources, i just have to ask - does anyone know
whatever happened to berkeley software?  or if there is a current
version of after dark (i can't find one), or a way to get them old
after dark screensavers to run in OSX?  i miss my flying
toasters.  :'o(


Actually, I miss my Rat Race!  :sigh:

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Re: frivolous question

2011-01-25 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:42 PM, ah...clem wrote:

  i miss my flying
 toasters.  :'o(

Miss them no more:

http://uneasysilence.com/toast/


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Re: frivolous question

2011-01-25 Thread Tina K.

On 2011/01/25 10:38, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote:

On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:42 PM, ah...clem wrote:


i miss my flying
  toasters.  :'o(

Miss them no more:

http://uneasysilence.com/toast/



Bah!

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Re: frivolous question

2011-01-25 Thread peterhaas

 Miss them no more:

 http://uneasysilence.com/toast/

The above link is broken (as for downloads).

Google on ToasterClone 1.0 and download it from the referenced site.


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Re: frivolous question

2011-01-25 Thread peterhaas

 http://uneasysilence.com/toast/

 The above link is broken (as for downloads).

 Google on ToasterClone 1.0 and download it from the referenced site.

Tested on 10.6.6 (an i5-760 Hack using an ASRock P55 Pro mobo).

Works great.


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Re: wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread Yersinia

 On 1/25/11 11:56 AM, akhoff18 wrote:

I recently acquired a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver (867mHZ, 1.25 gb RAM)
and am in the process of upgrading and updating it. I've got most
things on my list accomplished but I'm somewhat confused about what
type of wireless would be best for this machine.

 From what I've read online it seems as though the Airport Card is the
best way to go, as it was designed for this model (they are rather
expensive unfortunately). However, on a recent trip to the Apple Store
an employee told me I could simply buy a USB adapter for wireless and
it would work just the same. I'm basically looking for a reasonably
priced, yet efficient way of getting wireless for my desktop.

Thanks so much!

A USB adapter is just fine. In fact, I'm coming to you RIGHT NOW from my 
own beloved G4 Quicksilver 867, 1.5 GB RAM, and a Belkin 54g USB Network 
Adapter with a driver called Wireless Utility v 1.2.80u. Wireless 
performance of my Quicksilver with the adapter is just as good as the 
built-in Airport in my G4 Mini 1.5 GHz and my iBook G3/800.  :-D


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Re: wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread akhoff18
wonderful! thanks for the info! it will be compatible with any router,
correct? i just have a regular verizon modem/router.

another question that you may know the answer to if you are familiar
with MDD.i also want to update the graphics so i am able to watch
movies and use netflix (not sure if it'll be able to do this even with
an upgrade, but i've heard that updating the grahics will make web
surfing better in general). do you know what my best option is. i am
running on panther right now, but will be installing leopard shortly
so the quality is better.

thanks! : )

On Jan 25, 12:10 pm, bit...@ovi.com wrote:
 i just bought a D-link DWA-140 for my MDD and that works fine with the Ralink 
 Wireless Utility drivers :)

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Re: wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread bittin
it works fine with my FON Router atleast, don't know how to update the gfx, and 
iam still running 10.3.9 on this Dual 867mhz G4 with 512mb ram, but will update 
it to Tiger later this week 



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 To: G-Group‎ g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: wireless for powermac g4
 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:32:12 -0800 (PST)
 
 
wonderful! thanks for the info! it will be compatible with any router,
 correct? i just have a regular verizon modem/router.
 
 another question that you may know the answer to if you are familiar
 with MDD.i also want to update the graphics so i am able to watch
 movies and use netflix (not sure if it'll be able to do this even with
 an upgrade, but i've heard that updating the grahics will make web
 surfing better in general). do you know what my best option is. i am
 running on panther right now, but will be installing leopard shortly
 so the quality is better.
 
 thanks! : )
 
 On Jan 25, 12:10 pm, bit...@ovi.com wrote:
  i just bought a D-link DWA-140 for my MDD and that works fine with 
  the Ralink Wireless Utility drivers :)
 
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Re: wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread Kris Tilford

On Jan 25, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Yersinia wrote:

A USB adapter is just fine. In fact, I'm coming to you RIGHT NOW  
from my own beloved G4 Quicksilver 867, 1.5 GB RAM, and a Belkin 54g  
USB Network Adapter with a driver called Wireless Utility v 1.2.80u.  
Wireless performance of my Quicksilver with the adapter is just as  
good as the built-in Airport in my G4 Mini 1.5 GHz and my iBook  
G3/800.


Unless you've added a PCI USB 2.0 card, your Quicksilver should have  
limited capability using a Belkin 54g USB adapter via the built-in USB  
1.1 port. The performance should be slower than your G4 Mini's native  
54g Airport Extreme card, and about the same as your iBook G3/800 with  
original Airport 802.11b card. You must have USB 2.0 to get full speed  
802.11g or 802.11n via a USB adapter. None of the G4 PowerMacs have  
USB 2.0 unless you've installed a USB 2.0 PCI card. A USB 2.0 PCI card  
is a good investment for all G4 PowerMacs.


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Re: frivolous question

2011-01-25 Thread jetas...@netzero.com


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From: ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com
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Subject: frivolous question
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:42:34 -0800 (PST)

another lister mentioned wanting to run some vintage apps, and it
brought to mind one VERY vintage app - After Dark.  tho it's a stoopid
waste of time and resources, i just have to ask - does anyone know
whatever happened to berkeley software?  or if there is a current
version of after dark (i can't find one), or a way to get them old
after dark screensavers to run in OSX?  i miss my flying
toasters.  :'o(


My favorite was Bad Dog.

After Dark however was problematic with regard to playing nice with various 
software packages. In the early 1990's when I worked as an Apple support 
engineer many customer complaints were resolved by getting rid of After Dark.

I sure loved some of the featured savers though...

JT



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Re: wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread peterhaas

 Unless you've added a PCI USB 2.0 card, your Quicksilver should have
 limited capability using a Belkin 54g USB adapter via the built-in USB
 1.1 port. The performance should be slower than your G4 Mini's native
 54g Airport Extreme card, and about the same as your iBook G3/800 with
 original Airport 802.11b card. You must have USB 2.0 to get full speed
 802.11g or 802.11n via a USB adapter. None of the G4 PowerMacs have
 USB 2.0 unless you've installed a USB 2.0 PCI card. A USB 2.0 PCI card
 is a good investment for all G4 PowerMacs.

The USB system on most G4 Macks is too slow.

Glacially slow.

For, say, QS 2002 or earlier Macks, a Mini-PCI Broadcom card in a
Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter will more than do the job, and for about US$10,
too.

No need to worry about Belkin's (or whomever's) card revision (most are
NOT Mack-compatible, but a few of the obscure ones are) as the Mini-PCI
Broadcom card comes in only one flavor, and it is Airport Extreme
compatible OOTB.



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Re: wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Jan 25, 2011, at 1:17 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:

 The USB system on most G4 Macks is too slow.
 
 Glacially slow.
 
 For, say, QS 2002 or earlier Macks, a Mini-PCI Broadcom card in a
 Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter will more than do the job, and for about US$10,
 too.

Hwill that work in an airport slot, as in a laptop?


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Re: wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread peterhaas

 For, say, QS 2002 or earlier Macks, a Mini-PCI Broadcom card in a
 Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter will more than do the job, and for about US$10,
 too.

 Hwill that work in an airport slot, as in a laptop?

Works in a laptop in its Mini-PCI slot.

Works in a desktop, in its PCI slot (using the adapter).

No other option that I am aware of.

Some Hacks have PCI-e slots, and the later Broadcom PCI-e card will work
in those slots, too.

I've done both and both work as 100 percent Airport Extreme-compatible
solutions.



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Re: frivolous question

2011-01-25 Thread John Carmonne

On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:42 PM, ah...clem wrote:

 another lister mentioned wanting to run some vintage apps, and it
 brought to mind one VERY vintage app - After Dark.  tho it's a stoopid
 waste of time and resources, i just have to ask - does anyone know
 whatever happened to berkeley software?  or if there is a current
 version of after dark (i can't find one), or a way to get them old
 after dark screensavers to run in OSX?  i miss my flying
 toasters.  :'o(
 

Now that's a worthwhile project, I'm going to see if I can get the toasters and 
flying cows running on Tiger, perhaps with the Classic environment:-)


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
Sent from my MBP





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Re: frivolous question

2011-01-25 Thread John Carmonne


On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:42 PM, ah...clem wrote:


 i miss my flying
toasters.  :'o(


Miss them no more:

http://uneasysilence.com/toast/


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Re: frivolous question

2011-01-25 Thread John Carmonne


On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:52 AM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:




http://uneasysilence.com/toast/


The above link is broken (as for downloads).

Google on ToasterClone 1.0 and download it from the referenced  
site.


Tested on 10.6.6 (an i5-760 Hack using an ASRock P55 Pro mobo).

Works great.


I works but not smoothly, (TiBook 8667 1 GB RAM 10.4.11)  the  
controls are glitchy and the movement seems to be jumpy, annoying to  
watch. Not anywhere like the old days.


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Re: wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread Ashgrove
On Jan 25, 3:17 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:
 For, say, QS 2002 or earlier Macks, a Mini-PCI Broadcom card in a
 Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter will more than do the job, and for about US$10,
 too.


There are also a few PCI wifi adapters that are Broadcom based and
will be read as an Airport Extreme card. I'm using a Belkin one in my
Quicksilver right now. Gotta make sure it's the right one, though.

Best,

Felix

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Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Jeffrey Daile Engle
I bought a logitec cheap-ola microphone today with 1/8th mini to plug into my 
G5 imac... it won't work? shouldn't it?

Is there a work around or a third party driver that'll make it work?
(I should say that it works fine on a winblows box)

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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Mike Linnett
In system preferences, you should be able to select Line in as the audio 
source? That should show you if any signal is getting through. 
Doesn't the iMac have a built in mic?
On 25 Jan 2011, at 23:12, Jeffrey  Daile Engle wrote:

 I bought a logitec cheap-ola microphone today with 1/8th mini to plug into my 
 G5 imac... it won't work? shouldn't it?
 
 Is there a work around or a third party driver that'll make it work?
 (I should say that it works fine on a winblows box)
 
 Jeff Engle
 Kamiah, Idaho 83536
 
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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle
macgu...@gmail.comwrote:

 I bought a logitec cheap-ola microphone today with 1/8th mini to plug into
 my G5 imac... it won't work? shouldn't it?

 Is there a work around or a third party driver that'll make it work?
 (I should say that it works fine on a winblows box)
 


Is it a line level input ? You may need a preamp.





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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Jeffrey Daile Engle
yes, the imac has a built-in mic and no, it doesn't register in sys pref's. no 
signal gets through. Jeff
On Jan 25, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Mike Linnett wrote:

 In system preferences, you should be able to select Line in as the audio 
 source? That should show you if any signal is getting through. 
 Doesn't the iMac have a built in mic?
 On 25 Jan 2011, at 23:12, Jeffrey  Daile Engle wrote:
 
 I bought a logitec cheap-ola microphone today with 1/8th mini to plug into 
 my G5 imac... it won't work? shouldn't it?
 
 Is there a work around or a third party driver that'll make it work?
 (I should say that it works fine on a winblows box)
 
 Jeff Engle
 Kamiah, Idaho 83536
 

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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle
macgu...@gmail.comwrote:

 yes, the imac has a built-in mic and no, it doesn't register in sys pref's.
 no signal gets through. Jeff
 



If the mic works when plugged in to another device, proving it works try
plugging in another sound source to see if there is detectable input..

Again, knowing if it is a line level input would be very informative.



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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Jeffrey Daile Engle

On Jan 25, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

 
 
 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle macgu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 yes, the imac has a built-in mic and no, it doesn't register in sys pref's. 
 no signal gets through. Jeff
 
 
 
 If the mic works when plugged in to another device, proving it works try 
 plugging in another sound source to see if there is detectable input..
 
 Again, knowing if it is a line level input would be very informative.
 
 
  I have no idea 

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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle
macgu...@gmail.comwrote:


 
   I have no idea 




Your user manual will tell you.




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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Jeffrey Daile Engle

On Jan 25, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

 Your user manual will tell you.


it didn't come with a user manual, and furthermore it doesn't even have a model 
number on it. I picked it up a goodwill.

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Re: wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread Clark Martin

On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:32 AM, akhoff18 wrote:

 wonderful! thanks for the info! it will be compatible with any router,
 correct? i just have a regular verizon modem/router.
 
 another question that you may know the answer to if you are familiar
 with MDD.i also want to update the graphics so i am able to watch
 movies and use netflix (not sure if it'll be able to do this even with
 an upgrade, but i've heard that updating the grahics will make web
 surfing better in general). do you know what my best option is. i am
 running on panther right now, but will be installing leopard shortly
 so the quality is better.

Forget Netflix, it uses M$'s Silverlight and there is no PPC version of it.  
There is workalike software called Moonlight (???) but even with that Netflix 
rejects the web browser (even if you try faking the web browser ID).

I have a dual CPU MDD and it can play a QT movie okay at 640x480.  It drags if 
I try putting up as full screen though.  It will play youtube well enough.

I don't recall what video card it has in it off hand.  It may be an ATI Radeon 
7500.

Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
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Re: frivolous question

2011-01-25 Thread Mark Lavelle

On 1/25/11 11:55 AM, John Carmonne wrote:


On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:42 PM, ah...clem wrote:


 i miss my flying
toasters.  :'o(


Miss them no more:

http://uneasysilence.com/toast/


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Download inactive, bummer.

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How about this: http://en.infinisys.co.jp/download/index.shtml
or http://en.infinisys.co.jp/product/adx/index.shtml for full info.
It's a purchased product ($9.00) and doesn't run on Intel machines. 
Something for us PPC holdouts.

Runs OK on my G4 MDD running Leopard.
Mark Lavelle

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Re: wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread peterhaas

 There are also a few PCI wifi adapters that are Broadcom based and
 will be read as an Airport Extreme card. I'm using a Belkin one in my
 Quicksilver right now. Gotta make sure it's the right one, though.

I have a few of those, too.

Most are the non-Airport-compatible versions, however.


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Re: wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread akhoff18


On Jan 25, 3:17 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:
  Unless you've added a PCI USB 2.0 card, your Quicksilver should have
  limited capability using a Belkin 54g USB adapter via the built-in USB
  1.1 port. The performance should be slower than your G4 Mini's native
  54g Airport Extreme card, and about the same as your iBook G3/800 with
  original Airport 802.11b card. You must have USB 2.0 to get full speed
  802.11g or 802.11n via a USB adapter. None of the G4 PowerMacs have
  USB 2.0 unless you've installed a USB 2.0 PCI card. A USB 2.0 PCI card
  is a good investment for all G4 PowerMacs.

 The USB system on most G4 Macks is too slow.

 Glacially slow.

 For, say, QS 2002 or earlier Macks, a Mini-PCI Broadcom card in a
 Mini-PCI-to-PCI adapter will more than do the job, and for about US$10,
 too.

 No need to worry about Belkin's (or whomever's) card revision (most are
 NOT Mack-compatible, but a few of the obscure ones are) as the Mini-PCI
 Broadcom card comes in only one flavor, and it is Airport Extreme
 compatible OOTB.



would someone be able to send a quick link to what exactly encompasses
a mini pci to pci adapter...just so i know i'm buying the correct
part. i searched on ebay and a few different things came up with the
same name.

many thanks!

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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle
macgu...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Jan 25, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

  Your user manual will tell you.


 it didn't come with a user manual, and furthermore it doesn't even have a
 model number on it. I picked it up a goodwill.
 ___



Wow , now I am really envious. A G5 from Goodwill? In my town a G5, if
anyone had bought one, would be used until it as dust, and considered so
valuable that it would be on eBay for months to meet the reserve !

Check the LEM profiles to figure out the model. Or look in system profiler.
The manual should be easy to find online.





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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Jeffrey Daile Engle

On Jan 25, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

 Wow , now I am really envious. A G5 from Goodwill? In my town a G5, if anyone 
 had bought one, would be used until it as dust, and considered so valuable 
 that it would be on eBay for months to meet the reserve !
 
 Check the LEM profiles to figure out the model. Or look in system profiler.
 The manual should be easy to find online.

I was talking about the microphone.

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Re: wireless for powermac g4

2011-01-25 Thread peterhaas

 would someone be able to send a quick link to what exactly encompasses
 a mini pci to pci adapter...just so i know i'm buying the correct
 part. i searched on ebay and a few different things came up with the
 same name.

Mini-PCI Broadcom Airport-compatible WiFi card ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Broadcom-Mini-PCI-WIFI-802-11b-g-54Mbps-Wireless-Card-/220385813369

... and only US$3.75 which includes free shipment to the USA.

And ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/WiFi-54-108b-g-Wireless-LAN-Mini-PCI-PCI-Adapter-/110562755286

... and only US$1.37 plus US$2.99 shipping to the USA.

I have no horses in these races.

I have purchased these devices from several ePrey (sic) sellers, not
necessarily the ones cited above, and all sell essentially the same
respective products.

Shop on the basis of total price (item plus shipping), and let that be
your guide.

There is another style of adapter, and which has no antenna connector nor
cable. That is NOT suitable for the recommended application.

Also you only need the one antenna, usually indicated as main on the
card, although the Broadcom 4318 card can support two antennas. Two
antennas are appropriate for laptop applications where the antenna is
hidden in the laptop's base or display.

The designation Broadcom 4318 essentially guarantees 100 percent Airport
Extreme compatibility, without the need for any hacking of the Airport
driver.

The adapter has an R-SMA antenna connector and a cable which will mate to
the microscopic coaxial connector on the Broadcom card.

Any antenna with an R-SMA connector will do. Most overseas vendors are
selling antennas branded DLink, but those are not the only one which will
work.

The card and antenna are sensitive enough to connect to a WiFi router
which is located several rooms away, perhaps 50'. No need for a larger
antenna, in most cases.



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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle
macgu...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Jan 25, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

  Wow , now I am really envious. A G5 from Goodwill? In my town a G5, if
 anyone had bought one, would be used until it as dust, and considered so
 valuable that it would be on eBay for months to meet the reserve !
 
  Check the LEM profiles to figure out the model. Or look in system
 profiler.
  The manual should be easy to find online.

 I was talking about the microphone.
 __


Then I would definitely try the mic in another device to make sure it works.




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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Dana Collins
On 1/25/11 11:12 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 On Jan 25, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
 
 Wow , now I am really envious. A G5 from Goodwill? In my town a G5, if anyone
 had bought one, would be used until it as dust, and considered so valuable
 that it would be on eBay for months to meet the reserve !
 
 Check the LEM profiles to figure out the model. Or look in system profiler.
 The manual should be easy to find online.
 
 I was talking about the microphone.

LOL! I knew that was coming ;-) Jeff, you need a preamp for this style
microphone, particularly if it has a long cable - an online preamp (which
really acts as much as a signal isolator), 1-1 I/O, is all you need
(although a quick scan on eBay offerings did not yield such simple
solutions; more elegant offerings are available, costing - I am sure- at
least 20x more than what you paid for the mike).
This was a common frustration with Finale's MakeMusic application (their
Music Minus One accompanying software) where their microphones (which, by
necessity, had long 8' cables on them) did not work with Macs until they
started including preamps with the models (the new MakeMusic mikes are USB).
PCs were fine without the preamp. Why the difference I was never told,
though easy to speculate, electronically.

Best way to find one is to ask a friend whose Mac-centric child used to
use MakeMusic for practice purposes still had their mike.
Best regards,
Dana


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Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Kris Tilford

On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Jeffrey  Daile Engle wrote:


I was talking about the microphone.


He was talking about the manual for the G5 iMac.
You can download a manual from Apple and look in there:
http://support.apple.com/manuals/


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SOLVED Re: Microphone doesn't work?

2011-01-25 Thread Jeffrey Daile Engle

Yes, a preamp or I believe a simple USB to analog adapter might do the trick. I 
may just find one of those at goodwill the next time I visit. In any case, I'll 
take it from here. Thanks for all the input.
Jeff

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