Re: Any fix for Safari slow-downs?
Thanks for the help, guys! I've never used the System Monitor to see what's going on, Andreas, so I'll have to figure out how to do that next time the slowdown happens. I'm not much of a power user. I wonder if that's the thing called Activity Monitor in the Utilities folder? I tried it, and it's an interesting display, showing real memory, virtual memory, etc. I'll put it on the dock, and launch it next time I have a Safari slowdown to see if I can get a clue as to the cause. Just watching it as I go from website to website, it seems to vary between 60 and 90 MB of Real Memory. Good to know that quitting and restarting Safari will fix things, though, at least temporarily. I'll try that too, the next time the trouble occurs. Yes, this Mac is online all day, and it seems to be a progressive slowdown as the day goes on. I don't know what a memory leak is, but I'm not keen on the idea of leaking anything. Sounds like this kind of leak is not something easily plugged. I went and got Click to Flash and installed it in Safari. So far, so good, no slowdowns since I installed it, and it's interesting to see Flash items being blocked by flat gray icons. Thanks for telling me about that, Bruce. I'd never heard of it before. Best, Tom -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Any fix for Safari slow-downs?
On Apr 8, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Tom wrote: I don't know what a memory leak is, but I'm not keen on the idea of leaking anything. Sounds like this kind of leak is not something easily plugged. A memory leak is a byproduct the way computer programming works. In extremely simplified layman's terms: Every time you ask a program to do something (create a new document, display a web page, try to blow up an alien in a game, etc) it needs to make an object in the computer's memory to hold that stuff and any data associated with it. To do this the program has to ask the OS for some memory space to do it. When you're done with the something (save and close the document, quit that web page, blow up the alien :-) that memory is no longer needed to hold anything. In theory, the program is supposed to tell the OS Ok I'm done, I don't need this memory space any more., and the OS releases the memory back into the pool of available memory. In practice, programs fail to do this, forget to do this, or don't get around to doing this. So the OS has no idea that the chunk of memory it gave the program is no longer in use. In some cases the program DOES tell the OS to release the memory, but something else says No, wait a minute I'm still using it! And in others the program simply doesn't tell the OS about all the memory it's actually using for the object. While any single instance of this is not large, over time these lapses add up. The PROGRAM thinks it's done with the memory, the OS doesn't think so, so it sits there, unused and unusable. This is what's happened when you've been running Safari (and Flash, apparently) all day long. When a program quits, ALL the memory in use by it is released and freed, whether or not something else thinks it's using it, which is why it works to quit and restart Safari. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!
I would like to ask: it wouldn't be much more simple nowadays to buy a PCI-ATA card and attach the 128GB HD to it? -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ On 4/6/11 6:43 PM, Paul Stamsen at paterfami...@gmail.com wrote: Previously, at 8:22 PM +0200 4/6/11, as Mac User #330250 so eloquently wrote: (snip) The chief danger in that script is that if you do an OF reset you will lose access to the part of the drive above 128Gb until you re-activate the script. Sorry, I missed that. How again? No danger if the first partition is the boot partition and is limited to the size if 128 GB. Just don't use Disk Utility on it and you cannot do any harm to the other partitions that won't be visible until you've reset the OF hack and stored it in NVRAM again. If you keep your current 128Gb partition that will still be available, just any new partition you create will not be available. Exactly! You might want to create a small unused partition, one that spans the transition point then create t third partition that uses the remainder of the drive. The transition partition insures that no part of the third partition is available to the OS if the OF patch is missing. Worth thinking about, yes. If your fist partition IS exactly the 128 GB limit, you don't need this though. If part of it was accessible there is the possibility of it being corrupted. Yes. In such a case: avoid using this partition until the OF hack is restored. The danger is of course that OS utilities such as spotlight will write some data to the disk without you recognizing it. It will propably span over to the first partition and corrupt its data. DANGEROUS! It's hard to say what the OS or any repair tools might do to a disk that is only partly visible, it may attempt to repair the problem. Yes. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!
On 4/8/11 10:46 PM, MaGioZal wrote: I would like to ask: it wouldn't be much more simple nowadays to buy a PCI-ATA card and attach the128GB HD to it? Actually that's what I did when I bought two internal 250 GB HDDs for my G4 Quicksilver 867 but I haven't actually asked my boyfriend to perform the installations yet -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!
Il giorno 9-04-2011 4:46, MaGioZal ha scritto: I would like to ask: it wouldn't be much more simple nowadays to buy a PCI-ATA card and attach the 128GB HD to it? Well, it could be. But, what if... - The Mac has no PCI slot? (Or no free slot) - Owner doesn't want to open the computer? - Owner doesn't want (can) to spend any more money? Besides, this hack is really simple, much simpler than installing a PCI card and re-routing the HD. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!
Il giorno 6-04-2011 20:47, Mac User #330250 ha scritto: I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think Disk Utility will then show the unused portion of the drive. No. Actually, it does. :-) (I'm on a PowerMac G4 DA with 10.4.11 - 250MB WD HD) After using the script (and rebooting), Disk Utility shows (in the Partition tab) a new 104,89GB free space area... but I can't do anything with it. :-/ (perhaps because that's the boot drive) But you may be able to create a partition in the remainder of the space when you boot into Leopard¹s installation application and try the Disk Utility from there you'll have to use the OF hack for this to work. Booting from Tiger install disk, yes, Disk Utility lets me select the free space and the Partition button is enabled. Brilliant! :-D But... now I'm afraid that partitioning the new disk area could alter the existing partitions (I like them, I already have 5 partitions on my boot disk :-). I know it shouldn't happen... Il giorno 6-04-2011 19:47, Clark Martin ha scritto: I believe you will lose your data when you re-Partition. Not if you are just adding partition(s). ... but better safe than sorry! ;-D So I'll take the time to do some heavy backup, before partitioning the new HD space. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
