Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
You may laugh about putting a diaper around the cpu's, but the top of the G5 PSU actually comes with exactly that fixed to it on the liquid cooled models. When I asked you to check for corrosion and possible leaks, I should have told you that you must remove the heat sinks and liquid cooling system to check for leaks around the O rings of the heat sinks. You cannot see it unless you remove the G5 CPU boards from the computer. On Nov 4, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 4-11-2011 21:57, David W. Morris ha scritto: Have you opened up your Dual 2.7GHz G5 and removed the CPU's to check for corrosion, or leaks? Yes, I heard about this problem with liquid-cooled G5s, so when I got it I immediately opened and checked it out. No leaks or any trace whatsoever (lucky me :-). Anyway, back to the point of my message. I suggest you check any liquid cooled G5 Mac computer for leaks and corrosion, before you have a catastrophic leak and failure that damages the motherboard and PSU Now that you make me think about it... it could happen anytime. :-/ (or, since it's 6 years old now, it's tested enough?) Should I check it every now and then? The G5 sits under my desk, and it's not immediately accessible. Should I put a diaper around the CPUs, just in case? ;-D -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
On Nov 4, 2011, at 9:54 PM, David W. Morris wrote: You may laugh about putting a diaper around the cpu's, but the top of the G5 PSU actually comes with exactly that fixed to it on the liquid cooled models. When I asked you to check for corrosion and possible leaks, I should have told you that you must remove the heat sinks and liquid cooling system to check for leaks around the O rings of the heat sinks. You cannot see it unless you remove the G5 CPU boards from the computer. I was told many times that the liquid cooled Apples were a mistake. But I take issue with that, the technologic and industrial design was an Apple stroke of genius necessary to cool the monster processors, The problem was the manufacturer of the LCS's, Delphi (a GM company) was chosen and if you take a look at GM's quality track record over the last 30 years then it's telling why Panasonic saved the day. But Apple had a lot of machines out there before the problem became an issue hence the bad mark. I can fix the Delphi's and make those super G5 PM PPC machines run with the big dogs, However the folks that own most of them are professionals and don't have the where with all nor the time to do this. If you can snag a Panasonic LCS ( make sure to get the intake bezel or fashion one) It's a good choice, this machine is the last, fastest and finest PPC Apple produced. IMHO a work of industrial art. And a carrot is Apple has dropped the Mac Pro so the big box is a thing to admire. I call mine Stanley after the Stanley Steamer My friends are in awe to see a Mac with two water pumps and a radiator. My Mac Pro althohgh air cooled (Neil) is a fine companion to this work horse. :-) I guess I'm a little biased being a CNC programer and manufacturer. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
Il giorno 5-11-2011 5:54, David W. Morris ha scritto: When I asked you to check for corrosion and possible leaks, I should have told you that you must remove the heat sinks and liquid cooling system to check for leaks around the O rings of the heat sinks. You cannot see it unless you remove the G5 CPU boards from the computer. Wow, lot of work. :-| When I did my check, I just removed the metal plate covering the CPUs/Heat sinks (the one with G5 on it). If there was any significant leak, there should have been at least some trace on the floor plate below the CPUs (and there wasn't any). OTOH, taking from what John Carmonne said, if my G5 hasn't leaked anything yet, is probably the one having the (better) Panasonic LCS. Il giorno 5-11-2011 0:39, JohnCarmonne ha scritto: Apple had two different LCS's in the G5 PM 2.7 the Delphi (single pump) it was pretty sure to leak and need to be rebuilt the other LCS was made by Panasonic (two pumps) that AFAIK never has leaked yet. John, is there any easy way to tell which LCS I have on my G5? I don't know anything about pumps :-) but I think there should be some sticker or sign telling the manufacturer, somewhere... Or, maybe, you can infere it from Serial number? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 Mistery
Talking about G5, I have a little mistery about mine. :-? It's a 2.7 GHz DP and, according to MacTracker, it should be an Early 2005 model (the only one having 2.7 GHz CPUs). But... according to System Profiler, the computer model is PowerMac7,3 and, in MacTracker, that is the June 2004 model. But the June 2004 G5s were produced in 1.8, 2.0 and 2.5 GHz only. No 2.7. Besides, for the June 2004 MacTracker lists the Firmware Update 5.1.8f7. System Profiler tells my G5 has 5.2.4f1 Boot Rom version (hence, newer than June 2004). I wonder if MacTracker has some wrong info, or what... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Password protect?
At 8:06 AM -0700 11/2/2011, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I need to make a dvd disk, with one file on itŠ. what I need to do, is make the file readable by anyone, but nobody can drag the file to the desktop without a password.. is this possible? No. If you can read a thing, you can save a thing. In the past, people have tried to limit access to data by various methods, such as invisibility, scrambling, or encryption; their theory being that the user will only be able to access the data using their special app - and if that app provides no method to save the data... But that's a total fail! People are *gasp* smart! They quickly realize that using a different app, or different access method, will work! At that point, the protection simply makes the provider seem stupid. At 10:33 AM -0700 11/3/2011, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I'm thinking of making the file downloadable via dropboxŠ working on that right now. I'm trying to make a download link that I can give to anybody and it just starts the download to their computerŠ I think the copy protection is gonna get shelved for now. Dropbox's public links work great for that. The file is essentially only accessible to the person to whom you send the url. eg: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/610326/penguin-lust.gif Dropbox also supports a sharable link, but IMO it's a PITA. It creates a silly multi-step process by providing a link to a web page that contains a link the file, that the user then has to download in some way. The public link method is far superior, IMO. HTH, - Dan. -- - Be Prepared! http://www.bt.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Mistery
On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Talking about G5, I have a little mistery about mine. :-? It's a 2.7 GHz DP and, according to MacTracker, it should be an Early 2005 model (the only one having 2.7 GHz CPUs). But... according to System Profiler, the computer model is PowerMac7,3 and, in MacTracker, that is the June 2004 model. But the June 2004 G5s were produced in 1.8, 2.0 and 2.5 GHz only. No 2.7. Besides, for the June 2004 MacTracker lists the Firmware Update 5.1.8f7. System Profiler tells my G5 has 5.2.4f1 Boot Rom version (hence, newer than June 2004). I wonder if MacTracker has some wrong info, or what… Well, who are you going to believe…MacTracker or your lying eyes? :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 (June 2003): Firmware Update 5.1.4 – worth the risk?
At 9:42 PM +0100 11/2/2011, Mac User #330250 wrote: Well, since there is no more warrenty of any kind from Apple, I don't know where I should risk it or not. FWIW, I've done a couple of G5's over the years. Never had a problemo with the firmware update. YMMV. - Dan. -- - Be Prepared! http://www.bt.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: custom setting F keys
At 7:13 AM -0700 11/4/2011, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: I have a G5 PM Dual 2.7 with 10.5.8 and an ice cube tray keyboard. I want to assign the sound and brightness to F keys like on my TiBooks. Last century I remember a DA that allowed this on the extended keyboards, Is there anything I can do here or do I need to buy a new keyboard? Some settings can be done within the keyboard shortcuts tab on the Keyboard system prefs. For others, try Spark. http://www.shadowlab.org/Software/spark.php - Dan. -- - Be Prepared! http://www.bt.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New Group Member
Thanks everyone for the warm welcome! I look forward to participating in this group. On Nov 2, 10:16 pm, Frank Rojer frankro...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome to our group! On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Romell C. romch...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone I just want to introduce myself to the group. I have 2004 powermac g5 with two 2ghz processors running leopard 10.5.8 flawlessly. I've had this computer for 4 years and I don't have any plans on giving it up in the near future, Cheers! Romell C. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I CCC a 10.4 from a G4 DA to a G5?
On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 5-11-2011 5:54, David W. Morris ha scritto: When I asked you to check for corrosion and possible leaks, I should have told you that you must remove the heat sinks and liquid cooling system to check for leaks around the O rings of the heat sinks. You cannot see it unless you remove the G5 CPU boards from the computer. Wow, lot of work. :-| When I did my check, I just removed the metal plate covering the CPUs/Heat sinks (the one with G5 on it). If there was any significant leak, there should have been at least some trace on the floor plate below the CPUs (and there wasn't any). OTOH, taking from what John Carmonne said, if my G5 hasn't leaked anything yet, is probably the one having the (better) Panasonic LCS. Il giorno 5-11-2011 0:39, JohnCarmonne ha scritto: Apple had two different LCS's in the G5 PM 2.7 the Delphi (single pump) it was pretty sure to leak and need to be rebuilt the other LCS was made by Panasonic (two pumps) that AFAIK never has leaked yet. John, is there any easy way to tell which LCS I have on my G5? I don't know anything about pumps :-) but I think there should be some sticker or sign telling the manufacturer, somewhere... Or, maybe, you can infere it from Serial number? The easy way is to look at it with the G5 cover off and if it has copper tubes it's a Panasonic. The top of the processor has the name also you can send me a pic off- list and I can tell you. Plus not all the Delphi's will leak but it's a real problem with these machines if you need one rebuilt you can do it your self or Brian at DTT will do it cheap. http://www.dttservice.com/ John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 (June 2003): Firmware Update 5.1.4 – worth the risk?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G5 (June 2003): Firmware Update 5.1.4 – worth the risk? Date:Saturday, 05. November 2011 From:Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com At 9:42 PM +0100 11/2/2011, Mac User #330250 wrote: Well, since there is no more warrenty of any kind from Apple, I don't know where I should risk it or not. FWIW, I've done a couple of G5's over the years. Never had a problemo with the firmware update. YMMV. - Dan. Thanks. I've just finished getting Panther installed. I haven't tried the firmware updater on Tiger/Leo yet, but I needed the Panther anyway 'cos I never made an image (using CCC) of an installation including all updates. Now I did, so I can easily get it restored anytime I want/need to. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Mistery
On 05-11-2011 17:58, Valter Prahlad, valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it, wrote: Talking about G5, I have a little mistery about mine. :-? It's a 2.7 GHz DP and, according to MacTracker, it should be an Early 2005 model (the only one having 2.7 GHz CPUs). But... according to System Profiler, the computer model is PowerMac7,3 and, in MacTracker, that is the June 2004 model. But the June 2004 G5s were produced in 1.8, 2.0 and 2.5 GHz only. No 2.7. Besides, for the June 2004 MacTracker lists the Firmware Update 5.1.8f7. System Profiler tells my G5 has 5.2.4f1 Boot Rom version (hence, newer than June 2004). I wonder if MacTracker has some wrong info, or what... The best way to find out what Mac you exactly have, is IMHO: 1) Goto your SystemProfiler and look for your SerialNumber. 2) Then goto: http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html and fill in your SN. FE: I did this for the Mac I'm writing on now and I get following: Serial number: CK212H15MJP Name: PowerMac G4 (Quicksilver 2002) Model: g4_quick_2002 Group1: PowerMac Group2: G4 Generation: 35 ModelCode: g4_quick_2002 Machine Model: PowerMac3,5 Model introduced: 2002 Production year: 2002 Production week: 12 (March) Production number: 19691 (within this week) introduced test: GOED CPU speed: 800MHz Family name: M8493 Factory: CK (Cork, Ireland) External link: Technical specifications by apple-history.com HTH, Jo Hissel -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
