Re: [G3-5]Re: Good external hard drive?

2011-12-01 Thread MaGioZal
On 10/26/11 5:24 PM, JoeTaxpayer at joetaxpaye...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think Bruce feels n is far lower than you or I do. I understand the
 technologies are different, but the cost curve for dollars per GB
 looks a lot like those for semiconductor density/ Moore's Law. So will
 the ratio drop from 50 to 1 to 10 to one in ten years? Maybe. As you
 say, there are distinct uses now or SSD, I bought the 80GB drive for a
 laptop and the boot time is now super. And yes, the battery time is
 great as well.  iPads 64GB is enough especially with iCloud and easy
 syncing.
 As absolute pricing comes down, and a 1TB SSD is $100 vs a 25TB HD,
 more may choose SSD.
 I've seen graphs of drive pricing, not for SSD. I'd be curious.


I think the differences are:

€ Solid state: low data reliability, low energy consumption, high relative
durability, medium $ per byte

€ Hard disks: high data reliability, high energy consumption, medium/low
relative durability, low/very low $ per byte
 




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Re: [G3-5]Re: USB 2.0 Card for MDD G4

2011-12-01 Thread MaGioZal
On 10/27/11 12:12 PM, Bill Connelly at billycarmac...@verizon.net wrote:

 I would actually go with the cheaper one. They could be the same card,
 with a different name stamped on them. Although I like Sonnet Tech ...

Rule of the thumb: any USB 2.0 card with a non-VIA chipset will work fine.
The one I've got here in my Beige G3 has a NEC chipset.
 




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Re: Fwd: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-01 Thread Aravind T
There are lot of discussions on backup to external hard disk and not
much in online storage.

Yes, backup to external hard disk is easy, faster and simple. You can
store as much data as you wish in your external disk. But, what if the
external storage disk is corrupted/missing/? Or, what if you want
to access your data from internal, where your system/external disk is
not accessible?

In this case, you can choose online backup service. You need not to
bother about maintaining your backup data and storage. The backup
service provider will take care of all worries. Instead of uploading
all your system data, you can wisely choose what data should be backed
up to the online backup service.

If you want best of both worlds, you can configure different backup
jobs to your external disk drive and replicate the important backup
job data alone to the online backup service.
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On Nov 28, 2:35 pm, Bruce Ryan bruce.r...@mac.com wrote:
 Hi Jane

  2. I also have been looking at online backup sites, in addition to a 
  physical back up. Carbonite looks good to me, but I am not familiar with 
  the pros and cons of online. I would value your opinion.

 pro
 - if your mac and backup become unavailable (as might happen if your house 
 burns down or is burgled), you can get your data back!
 - backups should be available 24/7, so if you're away from your mac and find 
 you need some data, you can download it to a computer where you are right now
 - backups will be encrypted and held in secure premises
 - providing the hardware is the online provider's problem
 - if you have several macs/PCs to back up, even if they are on several sites, 
 you may be able to buy a family deal.

 con
 - slow initial upload speed (It took about 30 days to upload 150 GB of data 
 from my mac.)
 - need to have internet access to retrieve stuff
 - costs are ongoing (but hard disks don't last forever)
 - backups are encrypted - you need to remember your login details if you want 
 to retrieve data and are away from the mac that's connected to your account

 Both local HDs and online should offer incremental backup, so that you can 
 retrieve previous versions of files.

 To get around these limitations, I suggest doing both.
 - Time Machine hourly incremental backups (or CarbonCopyCloner daily 
 incremental backups) to a local HD will provide immediate access to stuff at 
 home, without any need to go online, remember passwords, etc.
 - Online backup is there as a last resort or for when you're away from home 
 and find you don't have the files you need.

 I've had good experience with CrashPlan (good customer service, a family deal 
 to cover up to 10 computers for $6 per month). They also offer a service 
 where you can use their software to back up to another device on a another 
 site (such as a friend's mac or PC) for free. Of course, this depends on 
 having a friend who has drive space and will leave their mac switched on and 
 online for you to backup to it. IIRC data would be encrypted so your friend 
 couldn't access your data unless you give away your password.)

 I can't comment on how CrashPlan compares to other online backup providers. 
 Of course, CrashPlan **claims** to be better - 
 seehttp://www.crashplan.com/business/compare.html#stackup. You might want to 
 try them and other providers' trial periods to see which suits you.

 I hope this helps and isn't patronising.

 Bruce

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Re: Upgrade question

2011-12-01 Thread JohnCarmonne

On Nov 30, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Martin N wrote:

 Lo,
 
 At 02:15 30/11/2011, you wrote:
 
 In a message dated 11/29/11 7:21:07 PM, marti...@bluebottle.com writes:
 
 Do you know how reliable the water cooled g5s are?
 I seem to remember it being mentioned that the cooling system was not
 very well built.
 
 Probably be looking at a G5 in a years time so always good to prepare.
 
 Martin N
 
 This was recently addressed here by someone who has rebuilt leaky cooling 
 units. IIRC there were two venders (Adelphi for early units  Panasonic for 
 later models) and it was the early units that had leak issues. It was also 
 stated that no matter what they should be inspected periodically. Check the 
 list archives or google. Plenty or info.
 


The Panasonic unit has never leaked in my experience. Hard to find but worth 
it. The Quads have a Dual pump Delphi that's a lot better than the solo's. They 
are great machines IMHO.


John Carmonne
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92886 USA
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Converting video to HTML5

2011-12-01 Thread Cliff Rediger
I have a familiar routine for creating relatively small .mov files in
iMovie
and then converting the to .swf (Video2SWF)
for posting on a web site using Dreamweaver.

I convert to .swf because they
   are smaller files
   easier to make play on click
   and more universally viewable

However, now, as we all know
flash has it's limitations.
For example, my 105 and 95 year old in-laws cannot see these videos
on their iPads.

Can anyone recommend an app that converts .mov or mp4 files to HTML5?

thank you
Clifff

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Re: Upgrade question

2011-12-01 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 30-11-2011 0:57, Martin N ha scritto:

 Do you know how reliable the water cooled g5s are?
 I seem to remember it being mentioned that the cooling system was not
 very well built.

As stated before, looking on Google or this List archives will get you
plenty of info.

I got a G5 2.7 DP recently. It seems having the Delphi Liquid Cooling System
(LCS), but no leak so far. Very silent, quite fast, I think it's a very good
machine, but you have to be lucky about the LCS.
Or, get yourself an air cooled one.

Below is part of the msgs I got when talking about this:

 Apple had two different LCS's in the G5 PM 2.7 the Delphi (single pump) it was
 pretty sure to leak and need to be rebuilt the other LCS was made by Panasonic
 (two pumps) that AFAIK never has leaked yet. I replaced my Delphi after two
 rebuilds and one Power supply with the later model Panasonic,  it's a much
 better built unit and easy to service if needed.
 
 
 is there any easy way to tell which LCS I have on my G5?
 
 The easy way is to look at it with the G5 cover off and if it has
 copper tubes it's a Panasonic.
 The top of the processor has the name.
 Plus not all the Delphi's will leak but it's a real problem with these
 machines. If you need one rebuilt you can do it your self
 or Brian at  DTT will do it cheap.
 http://www.dttservice.com/

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Re: Problem G5, can;t print

2011-12-01 Thread JohnCarmonne

On Nov 30, 2011, at 4:11 PM, JohnV wrote:

 2005 G5 PPC
 
 just reinstalled 10.4.11 and still have to boot in SAFE mode. Sysem can't see 
 any audio devices, but it's working for most things.
 
 With this in mind, anyone know why having installed HP drivers for a C3100 
 printer, that the system can;t seem to find it?
 

I install Gimp-Print for Mac OS X to take care of those issues, Also remove the 
printer from the preferences and let it search and reinstall.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
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Re: [G3-5]Re: USB 2.0 Card for MDD G4

2011-12-01 Thread Bill Connelly


On Dec 1, 2011, at 5:34 AM, MaGioZal wrote:

On 10/27/11 12:12 PM, Bill Connelly at billycarmac...@verizon.net  
wrote:


I would actually go with the cheaper one. They could be the same  
card,
with a different name stamped on them. Although I like Sonnet  
Tech ...




I heard ...

Rule of the thumb: any USB 2.0 card with a ...  NEC chipset ... will  
work fine.




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Re: Fwd: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-01 Thread Dan

At 7:09 AM -0800 11/30/2011, Aravind  T wrote:

In this case, you can choose online backup service. You need not to
bother about maintaining your backup data and storage. The backup
service provider will take care of all worries. Instead of uploading
all your system data, you can wisely choose what data should be backed
up to the online backup service.


As I pointed out in the other fork of this thread... You CANNOT 
expect the cloud service provider to take care of all worries.  In 
fact, all the providers are quite careful in their Terms of Service 
to NOT accept any responsibility for your data in any way.  They even 
consider their internal infrastructure to be confidential -- so you, 
the customer, have no way of knowing what breed of gerbils they use 
to keep their wheels running!


Unless you know of some service that's different?

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Re: Converting video to HTML5

2011-12-01 Thread Dan

At 1:39 PM -0800 11/30/2011, Cliff Rediger wrote:
I have a familiar routine for creating relatively small .mov files 
in iMovie and then converting the to .swf (Video2SWF) for posting on 
a web site using Dreamweaver.


I convert to .swf because they
   are smaller files
   easier to make play on click
   and more universally viewable


Universally viewable IFF the recipient has the Flash plug-in 
installed and it supports the vers of Flash you used.


However, now, as we all know flash has it's limitations.  For 
example, my 105 and 95 year old in-laws cannot see these videos on 
their iPads.


Can anyone recommend an app that converts .mov or mp4 files to HTML5?


HTML 5 is simply the latest revision of the Hypertext Markup 
Language.  One does not convert video to HTML5.  HTML5 supports a 
video element, that provides certain built-in codecs.  The idea 
being that the end-user won't have to obtain a 3rd party codec - the 
browser takes care of it.  ...Flash = video (various codecs) plus 
ActionScript.  ActionScript = Adobe's proprietary munge of 
JavaScript.  So the idea is to replace Flash with normal video and 
standard JavaScripts.


Currently, the most popular codec for HTML5 Video is h.264, which, 
like DivX and Xvid, is simply a flavour of MPEG-4.  Usually, the file 
extension .mp4 means h.264 content.


(just to confuse the issue, keep in mind that .mov, .avi, .mpg, .mp4, 
.mkv, etc, designate container files only.  Each can contain almost 
anything - multiple streams etc.  What's important here are the 
codecs used on the data therein.)


The basic engine, that just about everyone uses, that converts 
(transcodes) video and audio from one codec to another is FFmpeg, a 
free open-source project.  What you need is an app that provides a 
GUI to ffmpeg and some presets.  The presets are command options that 
tell ffmpeg what frame size, rate, compression quality, etc to use, 
to be compatible with your target audience.  (ffmpeg is a callable 
library and a complicated command line tool).


If you search on MacUpdate, I think you'll find a number of apps. 
FFmpegX is one of my fav - it's shareware, a very nice GUI with 
presets, and it contains pre-built versions of ffmpeg and some other 
handy tools (so you don't have to go thru the pain of building them 
yourself).


HTH,
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Re: Converting video to HTML5

2011-12-01 Thread Dan

At 11:16 AM -0500 12/1/2011, Dan wrote:
HTML5 supports a video element, that provides certain built-in 
codecs.  The idea being that the end-user won't have to obtain a 3rd 
party codec - the browser takes care of it.


LOL  Found this headache.  Good read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_HTML5_and_Flash

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Re: Fwd: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-01 Thread Martin N

Lo,

At 15:56 01/12/2011, you wrote:

At 7:09 AM -0800 11/30/2011, Aravind  T wrote:

In this case, you can choose online backup service. You need not to
bother about maintaining your backup data and storage. The backup
service provider will take care of all worries. Instead of uploading
all your system data, you can wisely choose what data should be backed
up to the online backup service.


As I pointed out in the other fork of this thread... You CANNOT 
expect the cloud service provider to take care of all worries.  In 
fact, all the providers are quite careful in their Terms of Service 
to NOT accept any responsibility for your data in any way.  They 
even consider their internal infrastructure to be confidential -- so 
you, the customer, have no way of knowing what breed of gerbils they 
use to keep their wheels running!


Unless you know of some service that's different?



There has been some discuss in the UK magazine PCPro about the 
importance of knowing

which country the servers of a cloud provider are present.

Microsofts cloud service does not specify where the data resides and 
so there is concern that

the American government can have access to your data under the patriot act

Martin N

Running MorphOS v2.6 (Nov 2010) on Mac Mini, Moderator of 
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Re: Fwd: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-01 Thread Dan

At 5:32 PM + 12/1/2011, Martin N wrote:
As I pointed out in the other fork of this thread... You CANNOT 
expect the cloud service provider to take care of all worries. 
In fact, all the providers are quite careful in their Terms of 
Service to NOT accept any responsibility for your data in any way. 
They even consider their internal infrastructure to be confidential 
-- so you, the customer, have no way of knowing what breed of 
gerbils they use to keep their wheels running!


Unless you know of some service that's different?


here has been some discuss in the UK magazine PCPro about the 
importance of knowing

which country the servers of a cloud provider are present.

Microsofts cloud service does not specify where the data resides and 
so there is concern that

the American government can have access to your data under the patriot act


oOo.  yea.  That's a whole other ball of wax!  Many services (eg: 
Dropbox, iCloud) are backed by the likes of Amazon's S3 cloud, and 
MS' cloud - which have data centers all over the world.  Donno if you 
can specify where your data is bucketed.  Have to look at that!  :\


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Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-01 Thread JohnV

Privacy  /  Convenience
the balance has never been any different.

Just cuz you think it's Remarkably Hip to be ABLE to post crap all  
over  a globally-viewable grocery store bulletin board, does not  
change the fact that  you are indeed knowingly posting  your stuff  
all over  a globally-viewable grocery store bulletin board.



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Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites

2011-12-01 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Dec 1, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Dan wrote:

 
 
 Microsofts cloud service does not specify where the data resides and so 
 there is concern that
 the American government can have access to your data under the patriot act
 
 oOo.  yea.  That's a whole other ball of wax!  Many services (eg: Dropbox, 
 iCloud) are backed by the likes of Amazon's S3 cloud, and MS' cloud - which 
 have data centers all over the world.  Donno if you can specify where your 
 data is bucketed.  Have to look at that!  :\

I know for a fact that you can indeed negotiate this, if you're big enough to 
negotiate with them. This was a concern when the UA went to a cloud  for their 
email systems. (not our pharmacy email we still run that, but the central 
systems) Also, Google has contracts with government agencies.

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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
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Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard

2011-12-01 Thread Mac User #330250
Hello!

I've a strange issue when I use my Power Mac G5 (original PowerMac7,2 from 
2003, Dual 2.0 GHz):
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/stats/powermac_g5_2.0_dp.html

When I use Mac OS X 10.3.9 on it, everything is fine.

When I use Mac OS X 10.4.11 on it, just like with Panther.

But, when I use Mac OS X 10.5.8, the fans will just start to slowly increase 
rpm so that they make a lot of nose (but not the max. rpm, just a higher one), 
then go down to normal. This just happend after approx. 30 minutes after 
switching it on and working on it. It was already heated up as it was running 
on 10.4.11 before. It would continue to do the fan rpm increase/decrease every 
3-5 minutes or so. I was doing some installation of verious applications, so 
the processor must have done a lot of work, but not constantly at 100% like 
with a benchmark application.

I've had this before, but with an older firmware. This behavior was gone – so I 
thought – with the firmware update, but I was only using 10.3.9 after the 
update… until now.


So, how is it with a G5 and Leopard? Are there any known issues that I just 
didn't find yet?

Are you using your G5 Power Macs with Tiger or with Leopard?

Might the issue be fixed if I clean out the dust, which I presume must be there 
after all these years (I didn't look too deep into it yet)?


Thanks in advance,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard

2011-12-01 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 1-12-2011 21:41, Mac User #330250 ha scritto:

 But, when I use Mac OS X 10.5.8, the fans will just start to slowly increase

 I was doing some installation of verious applications, so
 the processor must have done a lot of work
I think this invalid your comparison.
Try using 10.5 with regular usage or, better yet, doing nothing (have a
coffee! Watch the clouds! ;-D ).

If the revving up still happens, THEN we know there's something going on.

 Are you using your G5 Power Macs with Tiger or with Leopard?
I'm using it with Tiger, and fans just rev up every now and then, for 2-3
seconds (but mine is liquid cooled), no big deal.

 Might the issue be fixed if I clean out the dust
Cleaning dust is a good thing to do... but dust wouldn't create a difference
between OSes.
But since opening the G5 is so easy, just vacuum it and see how it goes when
clean. :-)

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Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard

2011-12-01 Thread Mac User #330250
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Subject: Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard
Date:Thursday, 01. December 2011
From:Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it
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 Il giorno 1-12-2011 21:41, Mac User #330250 ha scritto:
  But, when I use Mac OS X 10.5.8, the fans will just start to slowly
  increase
  
  I was doing some installation of verious applications, so
  the processor must have done a lot of work
 
 I think this invalid your comparison.
 Try using 10.5 with regular usage or, better yet, doing nothing (have a
 coffee! Watch the clouds! ;-D ).
 
 If the revving up still happens, THEN we know there's something going on.

I'll check this. Thanks for the hint.

  Are you using your G5 Power Macs with Tiger or with Leopard?
 
 I'm using it with Tiger, and fans just rev up every now and then, for 2-3
 seconds (but mine is liquid cooled), no big deal.

My other G5, a Late 2005 model (PowerMac11,2), also 2.0 GHz (Dual Core) didn't 
have this behaviour. Both models are air cooled.

  Might the issue be fixed if I clean out the dust
 
 Cleaning dust is a good thing to do... but dust wouldn't create a
 difference between OSes.
 But since opening the G5 is so easy, just vacuum it and see how it goes
 when clean. :-)

I'll get to it as soon as I can. I don't have a vacuum can at hand. I'll get 
one.


Thanks,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard

2011-12-01 Thread Tina K.

On 2011/12/01 14:41, Dan so eloquently wrote:

At 9:41 PM +0100 12/1/2011, Mac User #330250 wrote:



Might the issue be fixed if I clean out the dust, which I presume must be there
after all these years (I didn't look too deep into it yet)?


Yea.  Crud is one of the biggest causes of heat build-up.  Just be sure you 
don't
dislodge any cards or cables while you're vaccming  cleaning


If you're going to vacuum the case, it can't hurt to ground it. Static isn't 
usually a problem, but when it is it can be a big problem.



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Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard

2011-12-01 Thread JohnCarmonne

On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote:

 Hello!
 
 I've a strange issue when I use my Power Mac G5 (original PowerMac7,2 from 
 2003, Dual 2.0 GHz):
 http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/stats/powermac_g5_2.0_dp.html
 
 When I use Mac OS X 10.3.9 on it, everything is fine.
 
 When I use Mac OS X 10.4.11 on it, just like with Panther.
 
 But, when I use Mac OS X 10.5.8, the fans will just start to slowly increase 
 rpm so that they make a lot of nose (but not the max. rpm, just a higher 
 one), 
 then go down to normal. This just happend after approx. 30 minutes after 
 switching it on and working on it. It was already heated up as it was running 
 on 10.4.11 before. It would continue to do the fan rpm increase/decrease 
 every 
 3-5 minutes or so. I was doing some installation of verious applications, so 
 the processor must have done a lot of work, but not constantly at 100% like 
 with a benchmark application.
 
 I've had this before, but with an older firmware. This behavior was gone – so 
 I 
 thought – with the firmware update, but I was only using 10.3.9 after the 
 update… until now.
 
 
 So, how is it with a G5 and Leopard? Are there any known issues that I just 
 didn't find yet?
 
 Are you using your G5 Power Macs with Tiger or with Leopard?
 
 Might the issue be fixed if I clean out the dust, which I presume must be 
 there 
 after all these years (I didn't look too deep into it yet)?
 
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250
 

The G5 Power Mac will work harder and slower with10.5.8. I use 10.4.11 and 
10.5.8 on my G5 Power Mac Dual 2.7.The removal of dust will make a difference. 
What CPU temps do you get between the systems? Also ASD 2.5.7 will check a lot 
more than the AHT on the start up disk. I would basically disassemble it and 
give a good cleaning with compressed air (not the little cans) I use a unit 
like this to do the job.  

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=data+vacoe=utf-8um=1ie=UTF-8tbm=shopcid=4249165964897137846sa=Xei=funXTvucJo2GiQLiuLCtCgved=0CI4BEPMCMAE

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
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Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard

2011-12-01 Thread David W. Morris


On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote:


So, how is it with a G5 and Leopard? Are there any known issues that  
I just

didn't find yet?

Are you using your G5 Power Macs with Tiger or with Leopard?

Might the issue be fixed if I clean out the dust, which I presume  
must be there

after all these years (I didn't look too deep into it yet)?


Thanks in advance,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250


It does not sound like strange behavior to me that a later OS release  
might use more resources and generate more heat, so the fans would  
kick on occasionally.  It is just normal operation.  Did you expect  
your fans to never speed up while using your G5?  The usage does not  
have to be at 100% of CPU load to get the fans to speed up.


As Valter wrote, it is never a bad idea to clean the inside of any of  
your computers.


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Re: Upgrade question

2011-12-01 Thread Martin N

Lo,

At 00:09 01/12/2011, you wrote:

Il giorno 30-11-2011 0:57, Martin N ha scritto:



snip


Below is part of the msgs I got when talking about this:

 Apple had two different LCS's in the G5 PM 2.7 the Delphi (single 
pump) it was
 pretty sure to leak and need to be rebuilt the other LCS was made 
by Panasonic

 (two pumps) that AFAIK never has leaked yet. I replaced my Delphi after two
 rebuilds and one Power supply with the later model Panasonic,  it's a much
 better built unit and easy to service if needed.


 is there any easy way to tell which LCS I have on my G5?

 The easy way is to look at it with the G5 cover off and if it has
 copper tubes it's a Panasonic.
 The top of the processor has the name.
 Plus not all the Delphi's will leak but it's a real problem with these
 machines. If you need one rebuilt you can do it your self
 or Brian at  DTT will do it cheap.
 http://www.dttservice.com/



Thanks for the archive information, it looks like i will have to ask 
a seller on ebay
to take a photo of the inside to determine if it is the more reliable 
Panasonic.


Unless i pay the extra for a mac dealer refurb but they are a lot 
more expensive

than those on ebay when i was looking for my g4 mac mini.
This is in the UK so YMMV.

Martin N

Running MorphOS v2.6 (Nov 2010) on Mac Mini, Moderator of 
MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups



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Re: Upgrade question

2011-12-01 Thread Martin N

Lo,

At 20:58 30/11/2011, you wrote:


On Nov 30, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Martin N wrote:

 Lo,

 At 02:15 30/11/2011, you wrote:


snip

 This was recently addressed here by someone who has rebuilt 
leaky cooling units. IIRC there were two venders (Adelphi for early 
units  Panasonic for later models) and it was the early units that 
had leak issues. It was also stated that no matter what they should 
be inspected periodically. Check the list archives or google. Plenty or info.




The Panasonic unit has never leaked in my experience. Hard to find 
but worth it. The Quads have a Dual pump Delphi that's a lot better 
than the solo's... They are great machines IMHO.



Are the quads Delphis cheaper than the dual Panasonic?

Could be, if there is high demand for the Panasonic with the known
cooling issues.

Martin N

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Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard

2011-12-01 Thread Steve Schmidt
I have similar issue with my g5 dual 2.7. I just got received the computer last 
night and is my first  g5 so figured it was normal fan operation. The fan speed 
goes up with something as simple as opening a web browser with nothing else 
running. I'm running the same leopard version. The insides look fairly clean. 
Sorry no solution for you. I got the same thing going on.

Steve 


On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote:

 Hello!
 
 I've a strange issue when I use my Power Mac G5 (original PowerMac7,2 from 
 2003, Dual 2.0 GHz):
 http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/stats/powermac_g5_2.0_dp.html
 
 When I use Mac OS X 10.3.9 on it, everything is fine.
 
 When I use Mac OS X 10.4.11 on it, just like with Panther.
 
 But, when I use Mac OS X 10.5.8, the fans will just start to slowly increase 
 rpm so that they make a lot of nose (but not the max. rpm, just a higher 
 one), 
 then go down to normal. This just happend after approx. 30 minutes after 
 switching it on and working on it. It was already heated up as it was running 
 on 10.4.11 before. It would continue to do the fan rpm increase/decrease 
 every 
 3-5 minutes or so. I was doing some installation of verious applications, so 
 the processor must have done a lot of work, but not constantly at 100% like 
 with a benchmark application.
 
 I've had this before, but with an older firmware. This behavior was gone – so 
 I 
 thought – with the firmware update, but I was only using 10.3.9 after the 
 update… until now.
 
 
 So, how is it with a G5 and Leopard? Are there any known issues that I just 
 didn't find yet?
 
 Are you using your G5 Power Macs with Tiger or with Leopard?
 
 Might the issue be fixed if I clean out the dust, which I presume must be 
 there 
 after all these years (I didn't look too deep into it yet)?
 
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250
 
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Bad Ethernet Port?

2011-12-01 Thread John Callahan
My airport base station seems to have lost the connection at the (wan)  
port. The wireless connection with my computer shows up OK and the  
ethernet line from the cable modem to the computer ethernet port works  
fine. Apparently there is a loss of connection between the cable modem  
and the base station. Trieda new ethernet cable but to no avail.  
Anyone have any experience with a base station loosing a Port?

Much obliged.

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Re: Bad Ethernet Port?

2011-12-01 Thread Kris Tilford

On Dec 1, 2011, at 9:24 PM, John Callahan wrote:

My airport base station seems to have lost the connection at the  
(wan) port. The wireless connection with my computer shows up OK and  
the ethernet line from the cable modem to the computer ethernet port  
works fine. Apparently there is a loss of connection between the  
cable modem and the base station. Trieda new ethernet cable but to  
no avail. Anyone have any experience with a base station loosing a  
Port?


I think this is when the capacitors in the base station pop. These  
aren't normal looking cylindrical capacitors, they're rectangular I  
think. There are websites with photos of this problem and fix. The  
options are:


1)salvage the Airport card out of the base station and trash the dead  
base station. You can sell the power supply and/or Airport card to  
subsidize a new one.


2)get new capacitors and solder them in to fix the issue.

3)use another wired router to connect to your ISP via its WAN port and  
assign DHCP addresses; then have the Airport station connected to the  
wired router LAN-to-LAN port as a passive wireless station. This is a  
kludge way of utilizing the wireless of the broken Airport station by  
using an old wired router. Probably not the best solution unless you  
need wireless NOW and have an old wired router sitting around.


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Re: Upgrade question

2011-12-01 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 1-12-2011 23:19, Martin N ha scritto:

 Thanks for the archive information, it looks like i will have to ask
 a seller on ebay
 to take a photo of the inside to determine if it is the more reliable
 Panasonic.
He will have to do some disassembly, I think, to get to the cooling unit.
On my G5, it wasn't obvious just opening it.

 Unless i pay the extra for a mac dealer refurb but they are a lot
 more expensive
If you're afraid about the LCS, you could go for an air cooled G5.
(you can use MacTracker to know which is which)

 The Panasonic unit has never leaked in my experience. Hard to find
 but worth it. The Quads have a Dual pump Delphi that's a lot better
 than the solo's... They are great machines IMHO.
 
 Are the quads Delphis cheaper than the dual Panasonic?
I think the OP meant Quad core G5... :-)
(it was the last G5 model, the Late 2005, with dual core processors: the top
model had two dual core 2.5 GHz processors, hence the quad core)

Regarding the pumps, I think the Delphi was single pump, while the Panasonic
dual pump (and this regardless of G5 model; I mean, AFAIK there was no
direct correlation between G5 model and brand of LCS).
But John Carmonne knows much more about this than me.


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Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard

2011-12-01 Thread Mac User #330250
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Subject: Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard
Date:Thursday, 01. December 2011
From:David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com
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 It does not sound like strange behavior to me that a later OS release
 might use more resources and generate more heat, so the fans would
 kick on occasionally.  It is just normal operation.  Did you expect
 your fans to never speed up while using your G5?  The usage does not
 have to be at 100% of CPU load to get the fans to speed up.

No, I didn't expect anything. I just noticed quite a difference between working 
on Panther/Tiger and then working on Leopard.

But additional features on Leopard seem like a reasonable explanation. Just 
not a satisfying one, but all I have right now.

The fans stayed at low rpm all the time while I used Panther. I was doing the 
same stuff I now did on Leopard: installing applications.


Thanks.
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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