Update OSX 10.4.7 to 10.4.11 but Software Update is crashing

[Marc Avila]

Hello, 

We are tying to to upgrade a G4 running OSX 10.4.7 so that we can use the 
Logmein service. Logmein is asking that we update to 10.4.11 but when we 
try to run the Software Update or even by downloading and installing the 
update combo pack for 10.4.11 it keeps crashing and never updates. Any 
ideas on how to get the machine to update?

thanks, 
-Marc

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Re: Update OSX 10.4.7 to 10.4.11 but Software Update is crashing

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 15, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Marc Avila wrote:

> Hello, 
> 
> We are tying to to upgrade a G4 running OSX 10.4.7 so that we can use the 
> Logmein service. Logmein is asking that we update to 10.4.11 but when we try 
> to run the Software Update or even by downloading and installing the update 
> combo pack for 10.4.11 it keeps crashing and never updates. Any ideas on how 
> to get the machine to update?


First: Crashing how? A Kernel panic?, A spinning pinwheel of death? 'An Error 
has occured'? Check the system log for clues to what is going on at the install 
time.
Second: Have you tried booting in safe mode (hold down the shift key at 
startup) and installing the upgrade that way?
Second-and-a-half: Install and run Applejack 
Third: all else fails, this would be one of the times to do anArchive & Install 
of the OS.

But I'll wager the system log will tell you what's happening at the time it 
crashes.


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Failure to boot

[Jeff Bequette]

G5 DP1.8 (june 04)
Sys 10.5.8
4 gig ram
Hanns-G 25"
GeForceFX 5200
2TBhd, 700gb hd
HP printer
Radio shark

Since the last download of itunes (10.5.2), whenever I try to reboot  
the computer, it gets to the Grey screen, starts the spinner, and then  
turns off.   I've restarted in safe mode, and run Applejack, the  
works.  When I reboot, same thing happens.  I can start the computer  
by holding the 'C' key but the sceen comes up chopped, as in 4  
panels.  Went to Sys Prefs and reset screen and all seems fine, but  
I'm kinda scared to reboot now.


Where should I be looking to discover the problem?  How do I know if  
the video card is going out?


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Re: General Hardware Q

[Gottick International]

OK, guys.

Have one of these 20-inch iMac(MB323LL/A) 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo

It is supposed to come with a "Slot-loading 8x SuperDrive"

Question now is if "Slot-loading 8x SuperDrive"  is enough specs for  
me to get a new drive.


Will something like this UJ-825-C do?

http://pic.remac.biz/appleimac-1295031701-1961.jpg

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Re: Update OSX 10.4.7 to 10.4.11 but Software Update is crashing

[Marc Avila]

Hello, 

I get a spinning wheel and then the Software Update app just quits. I will look 
into your other suggestions.

thanks, 
-Marc



 From: Bruce Johnson 
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Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Update OSX 10.4.7 to 10.4.11 but Software Update is crashing
 

On Dec 15, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Marc Avila wrote:

> Hello, 
> 
> We are tying to to upgrade a G4 running OSX 10.4.7 so that we can use the 
> Logmein service. Logmein is asking that we update to 10.4.11 but when we try 
> to run the Software Update or even by downloading and installing the update 
> combo pack for 10.4.11 it keeps crashing and never updates. Any ideas on how 
> to get the machine to update?


First: Crashing how? A Kernel panic?, A spinning pinwheel of death? 'An Error 
has occured'? Check the system log for clues to what is going on at the install 
time.
Second: Have you tried booting in safe mode (hold down the shift key at 
startup) and installing the upgrade that way?
Second-and-a-half: Install and run Applejack 
Third: all else fails, this would be one of the times to do anArchive & Install 
of the OS.

But I'll wager the system log will tell you what's happening at the time it 
crashes.


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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Re: General Hardware Q

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 14, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Gottick International wrote:

> OK, guys.
> 
> Have one of these 20-inch iMac(MB323LL/A) 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
> 
> It is supposed to come with a "Slot-loading 8x SuperDrive"
> 
> Question now is if "Slot-loading 8x SuperDrive"  is enough specs for me to 
> get a new drive.
> 
> Will something like this UJ-825-C do?
> 
> http://pic.remac.biz/appleimac-1295031701-1961.jpg

Not sure. Physically it should fit, the issue is it the right interface. Look 
in System Profiler, does the drive show up on the ATA or SATA bus? That will be 
your guide. The rest is just mounting bracket and connection concerns, which 
would be obviate by using a bare drive of some sort. The drives are mostly 
universal, but each computer manufacturer will attach their own connecting 
hardware and platform to it.

See: 

The key is getting the right interface for your system and carefully 
disassembling your existing one to reuse the apple-supplied bracket and 
connector. I would think that the odds are extremely high that yours is a SATA 
drive, which are pretty common.


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Re: Update OSX 10.4.7 to 10.4.11 but Software Update is crashing

[Kris Tilford]

On Dec 15, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Marc Avila wrote:


I get a spinning wheel and then the Software Update app just quits.


It shouldn't "just quit", there should be an error message saying it  
"quit unexpectedly" and offer you some options to "Ignore" or "Send  
Report to Apple". If you select the "Show Details" under the "Send  
Report to Apple" it will show you the crash log for Software Update.  
This can give a clue as to the problem.


I'd Safe Boot by holding the Shift key at startup. Then run the  
"10.4.11 PPC Combo Update" that you downloaded previously. Should work. 


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Re: Failure to boot

[Kris Tilford]

On Dec 15, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Jeff Bequette wrote:

I can start the computer by holding the 'C' key but the sceen comes  
up chopped, as in 4 panels.  Went to Sys Prefs and reset screen and  
all seems fine, but I'm kinda scared to reboot now.


The 'C' key normally boots a disc from the optical drive. Are you  
booted from a CD or DVD?



Where should I be looking to discover the problem?


This sounds a little like a dead PRAM battery to me. If you've never  
replaced the PRAM battery, it's almost for certain that it's a dead  
PRAM battery, they only last about 5 years max, and this would seem to  
be more than 5 years.



How do I know if the video card is going out?


Not too likely it's going out. You might re-seat it if you're worried,  
but it's not common for these to fail, and since you corrected your  
video problem in System Preferences, this indicates the card is likely  
fine, and that the parameters for the video were lost because the PRAM  
battery was dead.


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Power supply for G4 MDD

[JIM RAPER]

Which is quieter, more reliable AcBel or Panasonic? I am replacing a
defunct PS. Thanks.  Jim

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