Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up
On Mar 17, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: OTOH, when I close Skype (v. 2.8.0.866) it often gives an error (like Unexpectedly quit or something). This is a bug in Skype, there's an open bug report that's been confirmed. The last version of Skype that runs without randomly crashing on a G5 is v.2.8.0.722. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up
Don't know why, but this happens on one of our Pismo's every time we start up, but not from a soft restart. Ged On 17 /03/ 2012, at 22:22, Valter Prahlad wrote: Hi all! My PM G5 2.7 DP goes generally fine, but it has some quirks now and then. This one is quite odd: once in a while (let's say once every one or two weeks), when switching the G5 on the DVD drive opens up. This happens just a couple seconds after pressing the ON button (so it doesn't seem software-related) The DVD drive (original, AFAIK) works flawlessly otherwise. I didn't change anything special on this G5 (I installed Skype recently), but it happened even before. Does somebody have any idea how this could happen? TIA Valter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up
Va;ter. Try a PRAM and VRAM reset and see what happens. Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca On Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:22:19 PM UTC-7, Valter Viglietti wrote: Hi all! My PM G5 2.7 DP goes generally fine, but it has some quirks now and then. This one is quite odd: once in a while (let's say once every one or two weeks), when switching the G5 on the DVD drive opens up. This happens just a couple seconds after pressing the ON button (so it doesn't seem software-related) The DVD drive (original, AFAIK) works flawlessly otherwise. I didn't change anything special on this G5 (I installed Skype recently), but it happened even before. Does somebody have any idea how this could happen? TIA Valter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
How to make external drive bootable
Hello all... I have an external disk for backup which I've been using for some time, both for TM and CCC backups. It is connected to my 17 G4 1.33 GHz Powerbook using FW. I see that it is not bootable. Disk Utility shows that it has a GUID Partition Table, while other external drives that I have use the Apple Partition Map. I'm assuming that is why the disk is not showing as bootable. I'm willing to wipe out the disk in order to set it up to be bootable but I don't see any choice in Disk Utility to do this. I believe that CCC is set to clone and make the drive bootable but either didn't or if it did... then is the FW connection the problem? Or what??? I'd appreciate any help on this one. Thank you. dan_A -- dan_A http://littleurl.net/danauerbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Constant HD activity
John, If it is your Spotlight then click on the Spy Glass in the upper right corner and you should see a message that Spotlight is indexing your system. If you have more than one drive then the message will say which drive is being indexed. Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca On Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:16:08 PM UTC-7, JohnV wrote: When I have the system on, why would the HD be constantly quietly chattering away to itself? It'll pause and be quiet for 10 sec or so and then start up again. G5 Dual 1.8 GHz 2GB SDRAM 10.4.11 RUNNING APPS: MAIL CALENDAR TEXT EDIT APPLEWORKS 6 ITUNES 8.2.1 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to make external drive bootable
When formatting with Disk Utility, instead of selecting Erase instead select Partition Under Volume Scheme it'll say Currant, change that to 1 partition Now click on the options button and you will be able to select Apple Partition Map On Mar 18, 9:26 am, Dan A listmis...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all... I have an external disk for backup which I've been using for some time, both for TM and CCC backups. It is connected to my 17 G4 1.33 GHz Powerbook using FW. I see that it is not bootable. Disk Utility shows that it has a GUID Partition Table, while other external drives that I have use the Apple Partition Map. I'm assuming that is why the disk is not showing as bootable. I'm willing to wipe out the disk in order to set it up to be bootable but I don't see any choice in Disk Utility to do this. I believe that CCC is set to clone and make the drive bootable but either didn't or if it did... then is the FW connection the problem? Or what??? I'd appreciate any help on this one. Thank you. dan_A -- dan_Ahttp://littleurl.net/danauerbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Constant HD activity
At 1:20 AM -0400 3/18/2012, JohnV wrote: mdimport seems to be the one... Ok. Give it time. Once its done the indexing, it should go away. If it persists for more than a few hours, then it might be stuck or the index might be corrupted. Spotlight issues have been covered in quite a few threads on this list. Check the archives. You'll find directions on using mdutil to erase the index and restart it. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to make external drive bootable
Thank you for your fast reply and help Wayne. I've done this several times in the past but just had a memory lapse. Really do appreciate your help. dan_A http://littleurl.net/danauerbach On 18-Mar-12, at 12:59 PM, Wayne Stewart wrote: When formatting with Disk Utility, instead of selecting Erase instead select Partition Under Volume Scheme it'll say Currant, change that to 1 partition Now click on the options button and you will be able to select Apple Partition Map On Mar 18, 9:26 am, Dan A listmis...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all... I have an external disk for backup which I've been using for some time, both for TM and CCC backups. It is connected to my 17 G4 1.33 GHz Powerbook using FW. I see that it is not bootable. Disk Utility shows that it has a GUID Partition Table, while other external drives that I have use the Apple Partition Map. I'm assuming that is why the disk is not showing as bootable. I'm willing to wipe out the disk in order to set it up to be bootable but I don't see any choice in Disk Utility to do this. I believe that CCC is set to clone and make the drive bootable but either didn't or if it did... then is the FW connection the problem? Or what??? I'd appreciate any help on this one. Thank you. dan_A -- dan_Ahttp://littleurl.net/danauerbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to make external drive bootable
If I recall correctly, PPC macs can only boot from GUID drives if they have 10.5 or later on them. If you have 10.4 you're out of luck and need to reformat the drive as Apple Partition Map. Chance On Mar 18, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Dan A listmis...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all... I have an external disk for backup which I've been using for some time, both for TM and CCC backups. It is connected to my 17 G4 1.33 GHz Powerbook using FW. I see that it is not bootable. Disk Utility shows that it has a GUID Partition Table, while other external drives that I have use the Apple Partition Map. I'm assuming that is why the disk is not showing as bootable. I'm willing to wipe out the disk in order to set it up to be bootable but I don't see any choice in Disk Utility to do this. I believe that CCC is set to clone and make the drive bootable but either didn't or if it did... then is the FW connection the problem? Or what??? I'd appreciate any help on this one. Thank you. dan_A -- dan_A http://littleurl.net/danauerbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to make external drive bootable
On Mar 18, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Dan A wrote: Hello all... I have an external disk for backup which I've been using for some time, both for TM and CCC backups. It is connected to my 17 G4 1.33 GHz Powerbook using FW. I see that it is not bootable. Disk Utility shows that it has a GUID Partition Table, while other external drives that I have use the Apple Partition Map. I'm assuming that is why the disk is not showing as bootable. I'm willing to wipe out the disk in order to set it up to be bootable but I don't see any choice in Disk Utility to do this. I believe that CCC is set to clone and make the drive bootable but either didn't or if it did... then is the FW connection the problem? Or what??? I'd appreciate any help on this one. Thank you. dan_A -- You need to format the disk in Disk Utility to Apple Partition Map. Disk Utility, Partition. Options , APM. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Carbon Copy got strange?
I have a drive with a 39Gig 10.5.8 system and when I make a CCC of it on another drive it produces a 22.3 Gig file I've done it several times and I get the same results. I have the entire source drive selected. I'm using version 3.4.3 with maintain a bootable copy no archive. I never noticed this before now I wonder if I may have a lot of bogus CCC's? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to make external drive bootable
On Mar 18, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: If I recall correctly, PPC macs can only boot from GUID drives if they have 10.5 or later on them. If you have 10.4 you're out of luck and need to reformat the drive as Apple Partition Map. Yes, this is my understanding also, but recently when someone was trying to create an external HD to boot both PPC Intel Macs, I stated that with 10.5 installed you COULD use GUID to boot both. However, articles on the web for creating dual PPC Intel external boot HDs all say to format the drive Apple Partition Map which can evidently boot Intel Macs also. I'm 99% certain that a GUID partition HD with Leopard 10.5 will boot a PPC Mac, but I can't seem to find any confirmation of this. I thought there was an official Apple KBA that confirms this, but I couldn't find it? I may do an experiment to confirm that GUID will boot on PPC Macs with 10.5. It seems strange that Apple Partition Map HDs will boot on Intel Macs. I may need to confirm this myself also. I wonder if this dual boot capability is unique to Leopard 10.5? I suspect it is. It may be that with Leopard 10.5 any format HD can boot any Mac? This raises the question: If APM formatted HDs boot on Intel Macs, why did Apple change the partition format to GUID for Intel? The mere fact that Apple changed partition formats suggests that there must be some qualitative difference or advantage to the new GUID format, and consequently some disadvantage to the old APM format. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to make external drive bootable
On 18-Mar-12, at 9:50 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: I'm 99% certain that a GUID partition HD with Leopard 10.5 will boot a PPC Mac, but I can't seem to find any confirmation of this. I thought there was an official Apple KBA that confirms this, but I couldn't find it? I forgot to include the OS in my original post. I am using 10.5.8 on this PB and the drive is not seen in DU or with the option key held during boot. The drive is a 1 TB Newertech ministack V2.5. I had originally been backing up to it with SuperDuper and I thought that something was wrong with that because I had set it to make this drive bootable in the prefs, which never happened. I hoped that changing over to CCC might accomplish that. dan_A http://littleurl.net/danauerbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to make external drive bootable
On Mar 18, 2012, at 6:50 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Mar 18, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: If I recall correctly, PPC macs can only boot from GUID drives if they have 10.5 or later on them. If you have 10.4 you're out of luck and need to reformat the drive as Apple Partition Map. Yes, this is my understanding also, but recently when someone was trying to create an external HD to boot both PPC Intel Macs, I stated that with 10.5 installed you COULD use GUID to boot both. However, articles on the web for creating dual PPC Intel external boot HDs all say to format the drive Apple Partition Map which can evidently boot Intel Macs also. I'm 99% certain that a GUID partition HD with Leopard 10.5 will boot a PPC Mac, but I can't seem to find any confirmation of this. I thought there was an official Apple KBA that confirms this, but I couldn't find it? I may do an experiment to confirm that GUID will boot on PPC Macs with 10.5. It seems strange that Apple Partition Map HDs will boot on Intel Macs. I may need to confirm this myself also. I wonder if this dual boot capability is unique to Leopard 10.5? I suspect it is. It may be that with Leopard 10.5 any format HD can boot any Mac? I can assure that a 10.5.8 volume on a GUID drive will not boot a PPC Mac at least all that I have up to a G5 Dual 2.7. This raises the question: If APM formatted HDs boot on Intel Macs, why did Apple change the partition format to GUID for Intel? The mere fact that Apple changed partition formats suggests that there must be some qualitative difference or advantage to the new GUID format, and consequently some disadvantage to the old APM format. So Far the only GUID format that I've found necessary is Lion will not boot on APM. \John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up
Il giorno 18-03-2012 7:52, Kris Tilford ha scritto: OTOH, when I close Skype (v. 2.8.0.866) it often gives an error (like Unexpectedly quit or something). This is a bug in Skype, there's an open bug report that's been confirmed. Oh, thanks. If I close the Skype window, and only then I quit Skype, it gives no error, though (so it not really a problem to me). The last version of Skype that runs without randomly crashing on a G5 is v.2.8.0.722. Interesting, but I wonder if that older version had some bugs/quirks that the latter had not. (AFAIK v.2.8.0.722 is the latest for Tiger) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
