Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD
Yes, just done some Googling.unfortunately none of my (4! - including one none-worker just bought for spares) Mirror Doors came with their restore CDsnothing on the Apple site in terms of downloads of this 'special' OS9. guess I'm gonna have to use one of the Quicksilvesr as an OS9 machine - I was hoping to install the image processing (for RAW files) software that came with my Minolta DiMAGE - a 12 year old camera that is in no way obsolete (IMHO!) and is as superb as something that originally cost £1200 would be .and also wanted it for a couple of older games that want Classic - Dan. On Apr 30, 5:58 am, Ken Daggett kadagg...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 Apr 2012, at 21:30:28 PDT, Deiniol ap Deiniol wrote: The OS9 disc is a retail version AFAIK. I also tried my iMac DV OS9 disc, out of curiosity (desperation!?) - that again tells me I have OS9 installedwhen I tried from Tiger am I missing something obvious here? --- I believe that the MDD requires a special version of OS9 (OS 9.2.2) that shipped with the machine. There ways around this that involve the boot ROM. Ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD
Sent from an iPhone, but is it mine? On Apr 30, 2012, at 1:22 AM, Deiniol ap Deiniol autolycus.mercat...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, just done some Googling.unfortunately none of my (4! - including one none-worker just bought for spares) Mirror Doors came with their restore CDsnothing on the Apple site in terms of downloads of this 'special' OS9. guess I'm gonna have to use one of the Quicksilvesr as an OS9 machine - I was hoping to install the image processing (for RAW files) software that came with my Minolta DiMAGE - a 12 year old camera that is in no way obsolete (IMHO!) and is as superb as something that originally cost £1200 would be .and also wanted it for a couple of older games that want Classic I'm pretty sure you can install OS 9 on another machine, bring it up to OS 9.2.2 with updates then copy the System Folder over to the MDD. At least this should work for running Classic, possibly for booting OS 9. I did this for classic on my MDD before I updated it to Leopard. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD
Hello Clark, I dare say that won't work to actuallly boot the MDD, but it will work with Classic just fine (of this I'm sure). Reading through this link: http://macintoshgarden.org/forum/mac-os-922-install-g4-mdd I found out that you'll need MacOS ROM version 9.6.1 to be able to boot an MDD into OS9, although the thread does not state the specific machine involved. Any boot rom with a version number higher than that, will most likely suffice. Greetings, Eelco. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Games for G3's?
Greetings! MY personal favourites: Quake I and II, available here: http://www.macintoshgarden.org Check out the games section while you're there, because I believe Duke Nukem 3D is also listed! Greetings, Eelco. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD
On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:22 AM, Deiniol ap Deiniol wrote: Yes, just done some Googling.unfortunately none of my (4! - including one none-worker just bought for spares) Mirror Doors came with their restore CDsnothing on the Apple site in terms of downloads of this 'special' OS9. This problem has been discussed many times before on G3-5 list. The problem is the MAC OS ROM version, it MUST be v.9.5.1 or greater to boot the MDD. Mac OS ROM is a tiny file within the System Folder. Here's a link to past postings on this subject: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/search?group=g3-5-listq=MDD+%22MAC+OS+ROM%22qt_g=Search+this+group Use a little ingenuity you can beat this problem. The simple way is to boot the MDD into Target Disk Mode holding the T key a boot, then attach to your Quicksilver or any other Mac that supports 9.1, install 9.1 onto the partition of the MDD and then update it to 9.2.2 and you're done, the 9.2.2 System should now boot on the MDD. Harder way is to extract the Mac OS ROM file from the 9.2.2 Update and manually place it into any installed OS 9 System Folder replacing the previous version. guess I'm gonna have to use one of the Quicksilvesr as an OS9 machine - I was hoping to install the image processing (for RAW files) software that came with my Minolta DiMAGE - a 12 year old camera that is in no way obsolete (IMHO!) and is as superb as something that originally cost £1200 would be .and also wanted it for a couple of older games that want Classic Apple provides Camera RAW support for OS X, and the Minolta DiMAGE is mentioned specifically in each update, so I think you're covered in OS X and won't be needing these OS 9 drivers. Here's a version of Tiger 10.4: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL303 Here's a version for Leopard 10.5: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1475 After you install any supported RAW Camera Update, Software Update will take you up to the highest supported update for your OS X version. Adobe also provides RAW camera extensions for their software. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Games for G3's?
You don't mention the age bracket you are going after, but oregon trail, and many titles from Ohio software, educational and fun. On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Xion Dracari wrote: well i still cant find the Right Codec/(and encoder settings to us efor video!) but what games would everyone suggets for the Snow white iMac (G3 600mhz 512MB Ram) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Source of spare parts for G3 / G4?
Hello all, I'm wondering where I can find spare / replacement parts for my aging G3's and G4. I am searching for a replacement power supply for my G3 gooseneck iMac. I also need some replacement parts for my G3 Lombard powerbook. Can anyone recommend some sources? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD
Not sure about this discussion about OS9 not booting on an MDD. I have a dual 1.25GHz G4 MDD that I upgraded to dual 1.42GHz G4 CPU module board and before the upgrade to the faster G4 CPU module, I had placed an old 6gb hard drive from one of my G3 iMac's (Tangerine I believe), as I was planning on reformatting it to use as a hard drive for MorphOS2.7 (which only uses 175mb of disk storage space, so 6gb is plenty large enough for the OS and several tools and utilities with room to spare for a MorphOS2.7 system drive). To my surprise, during the first boot with that drive installed inside my MDD, it booted into MacOS9.2.2, off that drive, instead of my MacOSX10.5.8 hard drive which should have still been my selected boot drive. So, I don't understand these comments about MDD PMac's not booting unless there is a certain version of the MAC OS ROM v9.5.1 or greater, unless that file is usually included in a Tangerine G3 iMac. On Apr 30, 2012, at 1:55 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: This problem has been discussed many times before on G3-5 list. The problem is the MAC OS ROM version, it MUST be v.9.5.1 or greater to boot the MDD. Mac OS ROM is a tiny file within the System Folder. Here's a link to past postings on this subject: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/search?group=g3-5-listq=MDD+%22MAC+OS+ROM%22qt_g=Search+this+group Use a little ingenuity you can beat this problem. The simple way is to boot the MDD into Target Disk Mode holding the T key a boot, then attach to your Quicksilver or any other Mac that supports 9.1, install 9.1 onto the partition of the MDD and then update it to 9.2.2 and you're done, the 9.2.2 System should now boot on the MDD. Harder way is to extract the Mac OS ROM file from the 9.2.2 Update and manually place it into any installed OS 9 System Folder replacing the previous version. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Skype
I downloaded the last version of Skype that runs on the G4 G5 Mac models, but I am wondering if my 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook w/2gb RAM is fast enough to run it with both incoming and outgoing video turned on? At first I suspected my shared cable TV Internet service provider might be to blame for my outgoing video stream freezing on the other person's screen, but when I test my Internet speed, I regularly see 5.5 to 7 Mbits/sec download speed and 2.3 Mbits/sec upload speed. I am using a (new to me) FireWire 400 iSight webcam, which appears to be working perfectly, so now I am wondering, is it my G4 PowerBook that is too slow, or is it the upload speed of my ISP? What do the rest of you think? Is if my ISP, or my G4 PowerBook? I don't know if I can get faster upload speed from my ISP by switching to a more expensive Internet package, or if there are any DSL companies where I live that could equal, or surpass the speed of my current cable TV ISP plan, as I don't live in a big city with lots of different companies that are ISP's and I doubt we have any fiber optic cables within 100 miles of where I live. Thanks in advance for any ideas. AmigaDave dual booting MacOSX MorphOS2.7 on my 1.5GHz G4 MacMini dual 1.42GHz G4 PowerMac MacOSX MorphOS3.0 beta on my 15 17 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook's, plus MacOSX Ubuntu10.10 PPC on my dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD
On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Ken Daggett wrote: On 29 Apr 2012, at 21:30:28 PDT, Deiniol ap Deiniol wrote: The OS9 disc is a retail version AFAIK. I also tried my iMac DV OS9 disc, out of curiosity (desperation!?) - that again tells me I have OS9 installedwhen I tried from Tiger am I missing something obvious here? --- I believe that the MDD requires a special version of OS9 (OS 9.2.2) that shipped with the machine. There ways around this that involve the boot ROM. Ken That boot ROM would be Mac OS CPU Software 5.9. .Pity Apple never put this on an install disc, only on the original disc'c for the MDD's. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Games for G3's?
MY personal favourites: Quake I and II, available here: I like MG as much as the next guy, but I think we need to be careful about abandonware and greyware sites on this list. IMHO, not a list nanny. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Well done is better than well said. -- Benjamin Franklin --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Games for G3's?
Oregon Trails fun but im not exactly aftre kiddy games either so Teen+ mostly. On Apr 30, 9:36 am, Jeff Bequette jbeque...@tconl.com wrote: You don't mention the age bracket you are going after, but oregon trail, and many titles from Ohio software, educational and fun. On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Xion Dracari wrote: well i still cant find the Right Codec/(and encoder settings to us efor video!) but what games would everyone suggets for the Snow white iMac (G3 600mhz 512MB Ram) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Skype
On Apr 30, 2012, at 12:59 AM, David W. Morris wrote: I downloaded the last version of Skype that runs on the G4 G5 Mac models, but I am wondering if my 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook w/2gb RAM is fast enough to run it with both incoming and outgoing video turned on? At first I suspected my shared cable TV Internet service provider might be to blame for my outgoing video stream freezing on the other person's screen, but when I test my Internet speed, I regularly see 5.5 to 7 Mbits/sec download speed and 2.3 Mbits/sec upload speed. I am using a (new to me) FireWire 400 iSight webcam, which appears to be working perfectly, so now I am wondering, is it my G4 PowerBook that is too slow, or is it the upload speed of my ISP? What do the rest of you think? Is if my ISP, or my G4 PowerBook? I don't know if I can get faster upload speed from my ISP by switching to a more expensive Internet package, or if there are any DSL companies where I live that could equal, or surpass the speed of my current cable TV ISP plan, as I don't live in a big city with lots of different companies that are ISP's and I doubt we have any fiber optic cables within 100 miles of where I live. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Your Skype will barley work OK on that 1.67 PB plus Tiger 10.4.11 is much faster than 10.5.8 for Skype. Be sure nothing else is running. Your ISP is fast enough. The Intel machines a much better for this, John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD
Once you get OS 9.2.2 on a bootable disk, there are five issues to contend with on the MDD. #1: The machine appears to accept your OS9 installation as bootable, but won't boot. As others have reported, you need Mac ROM 9.5.1 or later, AKA Mac OS CPU Software in your System Folder. #2: Sound may not work. You need to update some of the sound components (CPs/extensions) from version 1.x.x to 2.x.x. I'm a little hazy on the exact version numbers here, unfortunately. I meant to note it down some day, but haven't. #3 The machine may freeze at the desktop. The mouse pointer will move, but clicking and keyboard input has no effect. This is a conflict between QuickTime 6.0.3 and the ATI drivers which the 9.2.2 installer installs. Get the latest (2005?) ATI drivers. If you have an nVidia card, this shouldn't be a problem. #4 There's no way to open the optical drives' doors if there is no disc in the drive. Again, my memory is hazy, but in the OS 9 folders, outside the System Folder, (In Apple Extras?) there is an Eject Extras folder. There's a tool to allow you to eject the drives. There's also a shareware tool, you can download, but I didn't find it to work especially well. #5 In OS9.x.x, the MDD fans may run at full speed all the time. Anyone know of the cause/solution to this one? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Skype
Your Skype will barley work OK on that 1.67 PB plus Tiger 10.4.11 is much faster than 10.5.8 for Skype. Be sure nothing else is running. Your ISP is fast enough. The Intel machines a much better for this, John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 Thanks for the answer, but Skype works better than you think on my 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook. The incoming video is smooth and clear from the person I am calling, but on their end of the call, my video works for a little while, then it freezes. If I turn off sending my video to them and then restart it. my video will usually start playing again for another short while, then freeze again. I will try it from my dual 2.7GHz G5 soon. That should confirm if it is the computer, or the ISP provider, as the dual 2.7GHz G5 should be more than fast enough to run Skype. AmigaDave dual booting MacOSX MorphOS2.7 on my 1.5GHz G4 MacMini dual 1.42GHz G4 PowerMac MDD, and MacOSX MorphOS3.0 beta on my 15 17 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook's, plus MacOSX Ubuntu10.10 PPC on my dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Skype
On Apr 30, 2012, at 9:12 AM, David W. Morris wrote: Your Skype will barley work OK on that 1.67 PB plus Tiger 10.4.11 is much faster than 10.5.8 for Skype. Be sure nothing else is running. Your ISP is fast enough. The Intel machines a much better for this, Thanks for the answer, but Skype works better than you think on my 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook. The incoming video is smooth and clear from the person I am calling, but on their end of the call, my video works for a little while, then it freezes. If I turn off sending my video to them and then restart it. my video will usually start playing again for another short while, then freeze again. I will try it from my dual 2.7GHz G5 soon. That should confirm if it is the computer, or the ISP provider, as the dual 2.7GHz G5 should be more than fast enough to run Skype. \ My Dual 2.7 does well on 10.5.8 for Skype. It may be on their end if they have a slow ISP. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Games for G3's?
On Apr 29, 2012, at 7:22 PM, Xion Dracari wrote: well i still cant find the Right Codec/(and encoder settings to us efor video!) but what games would everyone suggets for the Snow white iMac (G3 600mhz 512MB Ram) Glider Pro: http://homepage.mac.com/calhoun/Glider%20PRO.html The OS 9 version has the house editor so you can make your own. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Games for G3's?
On Apr 29, 2012, at 7:22 PM, Xion Dracari wrote: well i still cant find the Right Codec/(and encoder settings to us efor video!) but what games would everyone suggets for the Snow white iMac (G3 600mhz 512MB Ram) What type of game are you looking for? If puzzles are your thing: Myst Series 3 in Three (or is it Three in 3) Shoot em ups? Marathon series. Games are so good Microsoft bought the company (Bungee) to get Halo (and keep it for the original Xbox and away from the Mac) Original Simms I think will work with your system (Yersinia you there?) Yes, the requirements for these are well under your iMac, but they are very enjoyable. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD
guess I'm gonna have to use one of the Quicksilvesr as an OS9 machine - I was hoping to install the image processing (for RAW files) software that came with my Minolta DiMAGE - a 12 year old camera that is in no way obsolete (IMHO!) and is as superb as something that originally cost £1200 would be .and also wanted it for a couple of older games that want Classic Apple provides Camera RAW support for OS X, and the Minolta DiMAGE is mentioned specifically in each update, so I think you're covered in OS X and won't be needing these OS 9 drivers. Here's a version of Tiger 10.4: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL303 Interesting, I downloaded the file at this link and it says This software requires Mac OS X version 10.4.8 and exits. 10.4.11 nor good enough? Ged -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD
On Apr 30, 2012, at 11:34 AM, geraldcornish wrote: guess I'm gonna have to use one of the Quicksilvesr as an OS9 machine - I was hoping to install the image processing (for RAW files) software that came with my Minolta DiMAGE - a 12 year old camera that is in no way obsolete (IMHO!) and is as superb as something that originally cost £1200 would be .and also wanted it for a couple of older games that want Classic Apple provides Camera RAW support for OS X, and the Minolta DiMAGE is mentioned specifically in each update, so I think you're covered in OS X and won't be needing these OS 9 drivers. Here's a version of Tiger 10.4: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL303 Interesting, I downloaded the file at this link and it says This software requires Mac OS X version 10.4.8 and exits. 10.4.11 nor good enough? System Requirements • Mac OS X • Intel based Macintosh running Mac OS X 10.4.8 Client or Server • PPC based Macintosh running Mac OS X 10.4.8 Server Note PPC requires 10.4.8 *Server*. I believe this means that the Camera Raw support for this model is already included in later versions of the software; otherwise their updates usually tack on 'or later' to the requirements. Updates like these are their oops! we forgot to include something in these specific versions! variety. However, this merely means that that particular raw format is supported, the driver is installed; you still need to have an application (like LightRoom, Photoshop, Aperture, etc) that actually manipulates the RAW files. If for some reason it isn't included, you can use Pacifist to install this regardless of what the Installer says. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Home movies won't import
1. I converted a 1:37 long home video VHS tape to DVD with my Sony DVD/VHS dubbing deck. 2. Tested perfect in my DVD player, or my computer's DVD player. 3. I then converted the DVD video to a m4v file on my desktop with Handbrake. (Last time I will ever use Handbrake on my G4 PowerBook for anything longer than 5 min.) 4. Tried to import into my Final Cut Pro v6 and got an error message (can't remember exact words). The m4v file plays fine through iTunes v10.6.1, or with Quicktime Player v7.7, but it will not import into my educational copy of Final Cut Studio 2 with it's included Final Cut Pro v6. Since the educational copy of Final Cut Studio 2 is supposed to be exactly the same as the full version, with the one exception that it can never be upgraded, I can't figure out why my file is not importing into Final Cut Pro v6. Any ideas? I am a complete Noob with Final Cut of any flavor, or any video editing program on the Mac, except a test video with iMovie, but I want to get started, so I purchased my Final Cut Studio 2 and now have about 1,200 pages of reading to do. Any help from users already familiar with Final Cut Pro would be appreciated. AmigaDave dual booting MacOSX MorphOS2.7 on my 1.5GHz G4 MacMini dual 1.42GHz G4 PowerMac and MacOSX MorphOS3.0 beta on my 15 17 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook's, plus MacOSX Ubuntu10.10 PPC on my dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD
Thanks for the clarification Bruce. On 30 /04/ 2012, at 19:44, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 30, 2012, at 11:34 AM, geraldcornish wrote: guess I'm gonna have to use one of the Quicksilvesr as an OS9 machine - I was hoping to install the image processing (for RAW files) software that came with my Minolta DiMAGE - a 12 year old camera that is in no way obsolete (IMHO!) and is as superb as something that originally cost £1200 would be .and also wanted it for a couple of older games that want Classic Apple provides Camera RAW support for OS X, and the Minolta DiMAGE is mentioned specifically in each update, so I think you're covered in OS X and won't be needing these OS 9 drivers. Here's a version of Tiger 10.4: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL303 Interesting, I downloaded the file at this link and it says This software requires Mac OS X version 10.4.8 and exits. 10.4.11 nor good enough? System Requirements • Mac OS X • Intel based Macintosh running Mac OS X 10.4.8 Client or Server • PPC based Macintosh running Mac OS X 10.4.8 Server Note PPC requires 10.4.8 *Server*. I believe this means that the Camera Raw support for this model is already included in later versions of the software; otherwise their updates usually tack on 'or later' to the requirements. Updates like these are their oops! we forgot to include something in these specific versions! variety. However, this merely means that that particular raw format is supported, the driver is installed; you still need to have an application (like LightRoom, Photoshop, Aperture, etc) that actually manipulates the RAW files. If for some reason it isn't included, you can use Pacifist to install this regardless of what the Installer says. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Home movies won't import
On Apr 30, 2012, at 1:09 PM, David W. Morris wrote: 4. Tried to import into my Final Cut Pro v6 and got an error message (can't remember exact words). The m4v file plays fine through iTunes v10.6.1, or with Quicktime Player v7.7, but it will not import into my educational copy of Final Cut Studio 2 with it's included Final Cut Pro v6. Since the educational copy of Final Cut Studio 2 is supposed to be exactly the same as the full version, with the one exception that it can never be upgraded, I can't figure out why my file is not importing into Final Cut Pro v6. Any ideas? The one thing that drives me absolutely nucking futz as a IT support person is : got an error message (can't remember exact words). (or my favorite: I got an error, I didn't write it down because it was all computer gobbldeygook) followed by the clear expectation that I am clairvoyant and can magically know what went wrong.. At this point my only possible advice is this: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Final+Cut+Pro+won't+import+M4V#seen -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Home movies won't import
On Apr 30, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: The one thing that drives me absolutely nucking futz as a IT support person is : got an error message (can't remember exact words). (or my favorite: I got an error, I didn't write it down because it was all computer gobbldeygook) followed by the clear expectation that I am clairvoyant and can magically know what went wrong.. Actual real-life helpdesk request that we got JUST this morning: I walked into the lab this morning to find the dreaded blue screen on name redacted. It is first time it has come up, so I simply restarted the PC. Is this an indication of potentially bad hard drive? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Home movies won't import
This what I do to import to imovie. It may help somebody. Insert the DVD into the computer Open - applications - utilities - disk utilities highlight DVD -click on new image on upper bar choose location to save - click create it takes a few minutes to see DVD on desktop with the file ext. of .dmg Go to imovies and double click the .dmg file to mount it. imovies import window will appear asking you to choose - click import all. Buy Sell 4 FREE on GARAGE SALE facebook Check it out: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Garage-SALE/103820456405846?sk=wall On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:09:43 PM, David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com wrote: From: David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com Subject:Home movies won't import Date: April 30, 2012 3:09:43 PM CDT To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com 1. I converted a 1:37 long home video VHS tape to DVD with my Sony DVD/VHS dubbing deck. 2. Tested perfect in my DVD player, or my computer's DVD player. 3. I then converted the DVD video to a m4v file on my desktop with Handbrake. (Last time I will ever use Handbrake on my G4 PowerBook for anything longer than 5 min.) 4. Tried to import into my Final Cut Pro v6 and got an error message (can't remember exact words). The m4v file plays fine through iTunes v10.6.1, or with Quicktime Player v7.7, but it will not import into my educational copy of Final Cut Studio 2 with it's included Final Cut Pro v6. Since the educational copy of Final Cut Studio 2 is supposed to be exactly the same as the full version, with the one exception that it can never be upgraded, I can't figure out why my file is not importing into Final Cut Pro v6. Any ideas? I am a complete Noob with Final Cut of any flavor, or any video editing program on the Mac, except a test video with iMovie, but I want to get started, so I purchased my Final Cut Studio 2 and now have about 1,200 pages of reading to do. Any help from users already familiar with Final Cut Pro would be appreciated. AmigaDave dual booting MacOSX MorphOS2.7 on my 1.5GHz G4 MacMini dual 1.42GHz G4 PowerMac and MacOSX MorphOS3.0 beta on my 15 17 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook's, plus MacOSX Ubuntu10.10 PPC on my dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Games for G3's?
Il giorno 30-04-2012 16:39, Xion Dracari ha scritto: Oregon Trails fun but im not exactly aftre kiddy games either so Teen+ mostly. You should mention your favorite genre(s). If you like shooters, I had a blast with the Marathon series. The graphic is quite outdated for today standards, but the gameplay and story are still immersive. IIRC, I did run also these games on my G3: Unreal, Unreal Tournament, DeusEx (wonderful mix of FPS and RPG), Aliens vs. Predator, Tomb Raider, and Return to Castle Wolfenstein. These are all worthy titles, IMO. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD
Il giorno 30-04-2012 10:48, QuoVadis ha scritto: I found out that you'll need MacOS ROM version 9.6.1 to be able to boot an MDD into OS9 Just in case someone is looking for MacOS ROM version 9.6.1 and cannot find it, I have it here; just ask privately. :-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Skype
Il giorno 30-04-2012 18:12, David W. Morris ha scritto: I will try it from my dual 2.7GHz G5 soon. That should confirm if it is the computer, or the ISP provider, as the dual 2.7GHz G5 should be more than fast enough to run Skype. FYI, I'm running Skype (2.8.0.866, last one for Tiger) on my G5 DP 2.7 with OSX 10.4.11, and it runs flawlessly. Since I have a 6Mbit DSL connection, I think yours is similar to mine, hence your problem is not related to your connection. I'm using a Logitech USB webcam. IMHO an 1.67 GHz G4 should suffice for Skype (not hi-res, of course), but I'm not sure since this is my first time with such software. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Games for G3's?
Il giorno 1-05-2012 2:34, Valter Prahlad ha scritto: IIRC, I did run also these games on my G3: Unreal, Unreal Tournament, DeusEx (wonderful mix of FPS and RPG), Aliens vs. Predator, Tomb Raider, and Return to Castle Wolfenstein. These are all worthy titles, IMO. I forgot to mention this: since all of these games are 3D intensive, you'll need a decent 3D card to run them. On the G3 I had a 3Dfx Voodoo 3 card (with beta Mac drivers), and it managed pretty good the Unreal games (Unreal, UT, DeusEx), not so much with RtCW. OTOH, Marathon is a 2.5 D game (not real full 3D like Quake was), so it could run even on a low-end graphic card. Duke Nukem 3D was another 2.5 D game that was really fun. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Home movies won't import
Sent from an iPhone, but is it mine? On Apr 30, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: The one thing that drives me absolutely nucking futz as a IT support person is : got an error message (can't remember exact words). (or my favorite: I got an error, I didn't write it down because it was all computer gobbldeygook) followed by the clear expectation that I am clairvoyant and can magically know what went wrong.. My all time favorite was: Someone had a problem I ask Have you changed anything recently? Response: No I look down and picked up a Software package (I think it was an OS upgrade). I asked about it. Response: Oh, yeah, I installed that. I still want to know what they think counts as a change. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Home movies won't import
If you can open that movie in QuickTime, export it as a QT movie or a DV stream, which will then import into Final Cut for editing. There are some video formats that Final Cut just doesn't like, but it always takes a QT movie or DV. Tom -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
