Re: G5 Graphics Card
Thanks, Andreas! Very informative. Scott Birdwell DeFalco's Home Wine & Beer Supplies sa...@defalcos.com www.defalcos.com On Jan 21, 2013, at 6:24 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: > I know you’ve already gotten your answer, but this seems noteably to me: > > Intel Mac graphics cards have an EFI based firmware on them, so they are > compatible with the EFI based Intel macs. Otherwise the graphics card is > identical to a Power Mac or PC version. > > Power Mac graphics cards have an Open Firmware based firmware on them. > > And PC graphics cards have BIOS based firmware on them, or newer cards maybe > also have an EFI-aware firmware as well. But it’s propably different from the > one used in Intel Macs. > > > IF you can find an Open Firmware based firmware for that specific card, you > can try to flash it. If none is available there is now way. And flashing is > not so very trivial either. > > > One thing is interesting though: I’ve once used a PC version of a graphics > card in a Power Mac computer. Due to the BIOS based firmware, the computers’ > Open Firmware was unable to initialize it and the screen stayed dark. I > booted > into Linux (because that is what I used back then) and the Linux kernel > detected this PCIe graphics card and loaded the appropriate driver and with > it > the card was initialized. So, once the operating system took over, it all > worked even though it was the wrong firmware on the graphics card. > > On Mac OS X the graphics driver will not work though, because it has built-in > logic to check for certain Open Firmware variables (or EFI variables, if > you’re on Intel). In other words, it relies on Open Firmware (or EFI on > Intel) > to initialize the card and takes over from there. Mac OS X will therefor > never > work with an identical graphics card that has the wrong firmware on it. > > > Just to make things more complicated, I guess… > > Cheers, > Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 to MacPro
Hello All, I just moved from a 2005 G5 2.7 Daulie to a 2009 MacPro 2.66 Quad Core and from Leopard to Mountain Lion ... it is taking some adjustment ... primarily with my older documents in AppleWorks and my mail from Thunderbird. Looking for any viable suggestions to help me save and move my older documents to iWorks9. Thunderbird is another issue entirely. When I migrated from my old MDD to the G%, I simply took my emails on a flash drive and put them in the new Thunderbird file on the G%. I can NOT find that PROFILES file on the MacPro ... so I am unable to bring my mail with me. Again viable suggestions. Miss some of, or have not found how to diminish a window ... double clicking the top of the window does not work, not having scroll buttons is sort of a pain ... but I am getting there. Otherwise it is a fantastic OS and smooth! No issues so far ... fingers crossed. Help and suggestions is greatly appreciated! Dan Curriedanc...@frontiernet.net -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 to MacPro
On 1/21/13 10:22 PM, Dan Currie of danc...@frontiernet.net sent > Hello All, > > I just moved from a 2005 G5 2.7 Daulie to a 2009 MacPro 2.66 Quad Core > and from Leopard to Mountain Lion ... it is taking some adjustment ... > primarily with my older documents in AppleWorks and my mail from > Thunderbird. > > Looking for any viable suggestions to help me save and move my older > documents to iWorks9. > > Thunderbird is another issue entirely. When I migrated from my old MDD > to the G%, I simply took my emails on a flash drive and put them in the > new Thunderbird file on the G%. I can NOT find that PROFILES file on the > MacPro ... so I am unable to bring my mail with me. Again viable > suggestions. > > Miss some of, or have not found how to diminish a window ... double > clicking the top of the window does not work, not having scroll buttons > is sort of a pain ... but I am getting there. > > Otherwise it is a fantastic OS and smooth! No issues so far ... > fingers crossed. > > Help and suggestions is greatly appreciated! > > Dan Curriedanc...@frontiernet.net Hello Dan, I had the same problem- had so many syllabi in Apple Works, I was not looking forward to exporting so many into iWorks - and I'm just not THAT fond of Pages yet. The nice feature about the Mac Pros is how easy it is to add another HD (it can take 4 - yum!). I found a smallish SATA drive, installed it, made it bootable into Snow Leopard (10.6.8) and reserved all my AW productivity for that volume alone, for which A-works still can run with Rosetta installed. When I'm done, I reboot into Lion (no ML yet) on the main drive and I am good to go with music work. Saved me having to find yet another app to contend with. HTH. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: @Dana G5 to MacPro
On 1/21/13 9:35 PM, Dana Collins wrote: Hello Dan, I had the same problem- had so many syllabi in Apple Works, I was not looking forward to exporting so many into iWorks - and I'm just not THAT fond of Pages yet. The nice feature about the Mac Pros is how easy it is to add another HD (it can take 4 - yum!). I found a smallish SATA drive, installed it, made it bootable into Snow Leopard (10.6.8) and reserved all my AW productivity for that volume alone, for which A-works still can run with Rosetta installed. When I'm done, I reboot into Lion (no ML yet) on the main drive and I am good to go with music work. Saved me having to find yet another app to contend with. HTH. Regards, Dana So I will need to get a bootable DVD of 10.6.8 and install it normally on a small internal drive, transfer all my old Applewotks files to it and use it as a bootable drive in the preferences. Dan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Twitter on a G4 or a G5
Mostly all I have heard about Twitter involves apps where you have to go to the app store. Thanks for the help. Mark Murphy On Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:09:33 PM UTC-5, Fabian Fang wrote: > > On Jan 19, 2013, at 3:11 PM, smac0031 wrote: > > > It unfortunately has come to this. It looks like I need to join Twitter. > I have a DA G4 with 10.411 or a G5 10.5 whatever. What do i need to run > Twitter by spending the least amount of money possible. > > What makes you think that you need to spend any amount of money "to run > Twitter" from a DA G4 or G5? > > < > http://support.twitter.com/groups/31-twitter-basics/topics/104-welcome-to-twitter-support/articles/13920-get-to-know-twitter-new-user-faq> > > > > You must already have "Internet connection," the Twitter requirement, in > order to send the above message to the G-Group. > > -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Twitter on a G4 or a G5
> Mostly all I have heard about Twitter involves apps where you have to go to > the app store. Twitter apps are just clients; Twitter is ultimately a web service. Given that Twitter is cracking down on clients, it would probably be better to use a web browser anyway. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- PowerPC inside! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 to MacPro
Hold the option key down while selecting the Go menu to make your Library folder (where the profiles live) visible. This is a new 'feature'. -- Bruce Johnson UA College of Pharmacy On Jan 21, 2013, at 8:22 PM, Dan Currie wrote: > Thunderbird is another issue entirely. When I migrated from my old MDD to the > G%, I simply took my emails on a flash drive and put them in the new > Thunderbird file on the G%. I can NOT find that PROFILES file on the MacPro > ... so I am unable to bring my mail with me. Again viable suggestions. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
