Re: New Forums

2013-03-15 Thread Charles Lenington

On 3/13/13 20:42 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:

Il giorno 14/03/13 02.06, t...@nehaia.dk ha scritto:


I can't say I like this change, but I can definetly understand that a cms


cms = 





--
--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: New Forums

2013-03-15 Thread Fabian Fang
On Mar 15, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Charles Lenington wrote:

 cms = 

Content Management System:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system

-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




DT Beige G3 to Sonnet G4 upgrade

2013-03-15 Thread Click
Has anyone here had any experience with installing a Sonnet G4 CPU 500Mhz 
upgrade?  I have installed the Sonnet software on my current OS 9.2 and 
then powered down and installed a Sonnet G4 CPU in my DT Beige G3. On power 
up the monitor and disks come on, but no chime.  

The manual says nothing about having to pull installed PCI cards or the 
CUDA, PRAM battery or any of that, but I am wondering if some additional 
procedures might be necessary to make the G4 come to life on the mobo. 

-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: Google Reader going away, now what?

2013-03-15 Thread Dan

At 7:47 AM -0500 03/14/2013, arichic...@gmail.com wrote:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237592/Google_Reader_several_other_services_axed

Google Reader is probably my most used web app of all. Why would they do this?
And what to do now with a PPC/Leopard setup?


What made Google Reader so special?


 I don't really like NetNewsWire for a variety of reasons.


I've been using NNW 3.2.15 for quite a while.  Seems quite functional to me.


I don't like the little ads


You mean that little one inch high thing in the lower left corner? 
All it ever does is beg you go buy NNW.  Doesn't seem intrusive to me.


I do not like how it takes me to a webpage for a blog rather than 
presenting the content within itself.


Not sure what you mean.  NNW has a three-pane set-up.  The lower 
right pane, which is resizable, contains the content.  A single-click 
on the listed item loads that lower pane.  A double-click throws the 
url at your browser.


- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

--
--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: Can't connect to TVGuide.com

2013-03-15 Thread Michael McMurtrey

Cleared cache and history, and that had no effect.

However, I indirectly discovered there is another tvguide.com site (http://online.tvguide.com 
) with a different IP address (67.215.65.132) and this one works just  
fine. Local channel listings have been restored, a new Safari bookmark  
created, and all is well. Thanks to those who responded to the call  
for help.


Interestingly, my wife's HP PeeCee can connect to the original site  
(204.153.26.245) through the same router, while my Mac was blocked.  
Weird, huh?



Michael McMurtrey
Bumfuzzled in Carrollton, TX

--
--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: New Forums

2013-03-15 Thread tina
Den Fredag, 15/3 2013, 02:53, Dan skrev:
 On 13 Mar, Dan Knight blerted:
We've started the process of migrating to WordPress forums, and
today   I'm announcing that the Power Macs (G3-5) forum is ready to
go. Please go to \url\ and create a login ID and password so you can
participate.

 Apropos to what?  What is the point of this transition?

for the website, you can read dan's own words about it here:
http://lowendmac.com/2013/welcome-to-wordpress/

for the lists - I have no idea, and no, I don't like it either

 As I replied to Dan's blert on the iMac List, and got NO response:

 The ppc page takes about 45 secs to load (Safari, Leopard,
 QuickSilver, with a 15/5 fiber connection).

 The right hand column - mostly ads, keeps flashing then redrawing,
 making the whole page distractingly unreadable.  Looks like this is
 site-wide?

tenfourfox 7, pb 1ghz g4, tiger - nothing takes 45 seconds to load on a
much slower connection. everythings smooth, fast loading and nothing
flashing or redrawing

login, registration and posting works just fine even with full noscript
turned on

only thing I can't get to work (or find) is to change the profile pic

that said, yes, this is worrying, and a forum, or a bunch of fora will
never ever work as fluent and convinient as the mail lists, and I also
miss an explantion about that

/tina



-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: Can't connect to TVGuide.com

2013-03-15 Thread Dan

At 9:54 AM -0500 03/15/2013, Michael McMurtrey wrote:

Cleared cache and history, and that had no effect.


zap2it.com's grid doesn't have tvguide.com's outages, grid errors, 
html farks, etc.


- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

--
--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: DT Beige G3 to Sonnet G4 upgrade

2013-03-15 Thread Cameron Kaiser
 Has anyone here had any experience with installing a Sonnet G4 CPU 500Mhz 
 upgrade?  I have installed the Sonnet software on my current OS 9.2 and 
 then powered down and installed a Sonnet G4 CPU in my DT Beige G3. On power 
 up the monitor and disks come on, but no chime.  
 
 The manual says nothing about having to pull installed PCI cards or the 
 CUDA, PRAM battery or any of that, but I am wondering if some additional 
 procedures might be necessary to make the G4 come to life on the mobo. 

At minimum you need to reset CUDA.

-- 
 personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
  Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com
-- Reality is when it finally happens to you, too. 

-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: Google Reader going away, now what?

2013-03-15 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Mar 15, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:

 At 7:47 AM -0500 03/14/2013, arichic...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237592/Google_Reader_several_other_services_axed
 
 Google Reader is probably my most used web app of all. Why would they do 
 this?
 And what to do now with a PPC/Leopard setup?
 
 What made Google Reader so special?

The actual web app? Nothing. The API behind it made keeping multiple devices in 
sync so much better; applications like Reeder were based on that. Reeder is a 
very nice rss client; seamless between my Macs and iDevices. NetNewsReader also 
uses the  Google Reader API to sync your feeds.



-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs


-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: DT Beige G3 to Sonnet G4 upgrade

2013-03-15 Thread Lawrence David Eden
I have experience.several years ago.  IIRC, during the 
installation process some of my RAM became unseated,  and I had your 
exact issues.  Go back inside the Beige and make press the RAM cards 
in again.


Hope this helps you.

Larry




Has anyone here had any experience with installing a Sonnet G4 CPU 
500Mhz upgrade?  I have installed the Sonnet software on my current 
OS 9.2 and then powered down and installed a Sonnet G4 CPU in my DT 
Beige G3. On power up the monitor and disks come on, but no chime.


The manual says nothing about having to pull installed PCI cards or 
the CUDA, PRAM battery or any of that, but I am wondering if some 
additional procedures might be necessary to make the G4 come to life 
on the mobo.


--
--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular 
focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at 
http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml 
and our netiquette guide is at 
http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml

To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-listhttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list


---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, 
send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit 
https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.



--
--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: DT Beige G3 to Sonnet G4 upgrade

2013-03-15 Thread Kris Tilford

On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:


At minimum you need to reset CUDA.


Ditto, reset CUDA.

Note, on G3 there's sometimes a problem resetting the CUDA. If it  
doesn't work after a first attempt of pressing the CUDA, the reason  
probably is that the voltage regulator  power supply sometimes have a  
residual charge that keeps the CUDA from properly resetting. To be  
certain the CUDA is reset, you'll need to remove the PRAM battery and  
the cable from the power supply to the motherboard, THEN press the  
CUDA and WAIT about 5-15 minutes, then press the CUDA again, and  
reassemble the cable  PRAM battery.


If this doesn't work, remove PRAM  PS cable again, and let it sit  
overnight, press CUDA and reassemble.


Beige G3's are REALLY finicky.

--
--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead?

2013-03-15 Thread spilrules

I did exactly what Clark recommended, and it did not change anything.  When 
I plug  the AC charger in, it does not light up as it used to. Could this 
be a problem with the AC connection jack that is in the powerbook?  Does 
anyone think that this part may have failed as I cannot think of what else 
would prevent it from getting any power. Could a power surge possible ruin 
this part and not damage the AC power/charger device?

Thanks to all who respond!
Tom  







-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead?

2013-03-15 Thread Clark Martin

On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:26 AM, spilrules wrote:

 
 I did exactly what Clark recommended, and it did not change anything.  When I 
 plug  the AC charger in, it does not light up as it used to. Could this be a 
 problem with the AC connection jack that is in the powerbook?  Does anyone 
 think that this part may have failed as I cannot think of what else would 
 prevent it from getting any power. Could a power surge possible ruin this 
 part and not damage the AC power/charger device?

It's a DC connection jack in the PowerBook and yes, it could be faulty as could 
the AC power supply.  A power surge would be much more likely to damage the 
power supply rather than the DC power in circuitry in the PowerBook.  What does 
the computer show as far as charging state in the menu?

-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: DT Beige G3 to Sonnet G4 upgrade

2013-03-15 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:

 On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
 
 At minimum you need to reset CUDA.
 
 Ditto, reset CUDA.
 
 Note, on G3 there's sometimes a problem resetting the CUDA. If it doesn't 
 work after a first attempt of pressing the CUDA, the reason probably is that 
 the voltage regulator  power supply sometimes have a residual charge that 
 keeps the CUDA from properly resetting. To be certain the CUDA is reset, 
 you'll need to remove the PRAM battery and the cable from the power supply to 
 the motherboard, THEN press the CUDA and WAIT about 5-15 minutes, then press 
 the CUDA again, and reassemble the cable  PRAM battery.
 
 If this doesn't work, remove PRAM  PS cable again, and let it sit overnight, 
 press CUDA and reassemble.
 
 Beige G3's are REALLY finicky.

That which Kris said. I had to do this on my Beige G3 several times, while 
attempting to get it to play well with 10.3 and XPostFacto. Never succeeded. 

This was also one of the G3's that Sonnet's combo interface cards wouldn't work 
in. Sonnet finally surrenedered and took back the card. One of the flakier 
lines Apple's built over the years.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs


-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead?

2013-03-15 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:26 AM, spilrules t...@tomstock.us wrote:

 I did exactly what Clark recommended, and it did not change anything.  When I 
 plug  the AC charger in, it does not light up as it used to. Could this be a 
 problem with the AC connection jack that is in the powerbook?  Does anyone 
 think that this part may have failed as I cannot think of what else would 
 prevent it from getting any power. Could a power surge possible ruin this 
 part and not damage the AC power/charger device?

If the battery shows a full charge, and the system won't boot off of just the 
battery, I'd say that the DC board on it died.

Kinda fiddly to replace : 
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+PowerBook+G4+Aluminum+15-Inch+1.67+GHz+DC+%26+Sound+Card/651/1
 but not terrible.



-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs


-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Are the G5 power supplies as bad as the G4 was?

2013-03-15 Thread JoeTaxpayer
I've not heard back from the guy selling ATX to MDD (G4) PS converters. Too 
bad.

I know the G5 machines are SATA, but if I am willing to let go of the G4 
units, and just transfer the PPc-only software, the G5 should run what I'd 
like to still access. 

Is the G5 PS failure rate as high as the MDD G4 series? If you've not read 
my PS question prior, I now have 4 dead MDD G4's. 

-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead?

2013-03-15 Thread ROBERT H. BAUCOM
Since I do all my on repairs … I would be very interested in the results of 
trouble shooting the DC board. 
When my wife's 1.25GHz 13 PowerBook died, I decided no more laptops in our 
house. 
They're just too flimsy, plus, my hands seem to be too large to do anything 
inside it.  
The G3 Pismo is the only long life practically trouble free laptop I've ever 
come across.
I bought her a used G4 eMac and it has been bullet proof running OS10.4.8.  
Only repair has been me replacing the battery. My only gripe is that it's heavy 
as a Harley :-)

RHB
Almost no one can fix his own jalopy anymore, but with bikes, it's all hanging 
out. Anything you want to get to, you can just pull it out and work on it. Plus 
you can't have more than one backseat driver. ~David Karp - Founder of Tumblr 

On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:

 
 On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:26 AM, spilrules t...@tomstock.us wrote:
 
 I did exactly what Clark recommended, and it did not change anything.  When 
 I plug  the AC charger in, it does not light up as it used to. Could this be 
 a problem with the AC connection jack that is in the powerbook?  Does anyone 
 think that this part may have failed as I cannot think of what else would 
 prevent it from getting any power. Could a power surge possible ruin this 
 part and not damage the AC power/charger device?
 
 If the battery shows a full charge, and the system won't boot off of just the 
 battery, I'd say that the DC board on it died.
 
 Kinda fiddly to replace : 
 http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+PowerBook+G4+Aluminum+15-Inch+1.67+GHz+DC+%26+Sound+Card/651/1
  but not terrible.
 
 
 -- 
 Bruce Johnson
 University of Arizona
 College of Pharmacy
 Information Technology Group
 
 Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs
 



ROBERT H. BAUCOM
rbt...@owc.net



-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: Are the G5 power supplies as bad as the G4 was?

2013-03-15 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Mar 15, 2013, at 12:31 PM, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've not heard back from the guy selling ATX to MDD (G4) PS converters. Too 
 bad.
 
 I know the G5 machines are SATA, but if I am willing to let go of the G4 
 units, and just transfer the PPc-only software, the G5 should run what I'd 
 like to still access. 
 
 Is the G5 PS failure rate as high as the MDD G4 series? If you've not read my 
 PS question prior, I now have 4 dead MDD G4's. 

G5 towers? no; in my experience those have been quite reliable. G5 iMacs were 
made at the height of the Capacitor Plague and have had consistent issues with 
bad caps on both the logic board and the power supply.


-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs


-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead?

2013-03-15 Thread spilrules



 It's a DC connection jack in the PowerBook and yes, it could be faulty as 
 could the AC power supply.  A power surge would be much more likely to 
 damage the power supply rather than the DC power in circuitry in the 
 PowerBook.  What does the computer show as far as charging state in the 
 menu?
 Show trimmed content 

Thanks Clark, when I said the battery shows a full charge, I mean when you 
push the indicator button on the battery itself.  The AC power supply works 
fine with my other powerbook and I also have 3 other AC adapters and they 
work fine as well, however when plugged into the 15 1.67mhz in question 
here it does not  get any power at all, so I cannot tell you the status of 
the charging in the menu as it does not do anything at all sans power. When 
the AC power supply is plugged in, it does not light up as it used to.

I am guessing at this point that the DC inboard jack has diedbut why? 
Any other thoughts are gladly accepted!
Thanks again,
Tom
 

-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead?

2013-03-15 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Mar 15, 2013, at 2:01 PM, spilrules t...@tomstock.us wrote:

 I am guessing at this point that the DC inboard jack has diedbut why? Any 
 other thoughts are gladly accepted!
 Thanks again,

The evil gremlins snuck in when you weren't looking and let out the magic 
smoke. shrug Electronic circuits fail with time and entropy and there can be 
a myriad of causes: tin whiskers, cap failure, contact corrosion leading to 
high resistance, leading to burnouts, etc.

Could be something's jostled loose.

Could be a bit of metal worked loose and is shorting things out.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs


-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead?

2013-03-15 Thread Kaljhd.ja
I have a MacBook that did the same things. It can't be fixed as far as I know. 
The logic board on mine was bad. 

-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: Are the G5 power supplies as bad as the G4 was?

2013-03-15 Thread JoeTaxpayer
Sorry, yes, tower. Given the choice, it may make sense to grab one for my 
needs.

On Friday, March 15, 2013 5:00:12 PM UTC-4, joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu 
wrote:


 G5 towers? no; in my experience those have been quite reliable. G5 iMacs 
 were made at the height of the Capacitor Plague and have had consistent 
 issues with bad caps on both the logic board and the power supply. 


 -- 
 Bruce Johnson 
 University of Arizona 
 College of Pharmacy 
 Information Technology Group 

 Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs 




-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: Are the G5 power supplies as bad as the G4 was?

2013-03-15 Thread Cameron Kaiser
  Is the G5 PS failure rate as high as the MDD G4 series?
 
 G5 towers? no; in my experience those have been quite reliable.

Well, let's say *more* reliable. My quad G5 is still running on the original
PS (the MDD, OTOH, is on its third). But early G5 towers did have some PS
issues, though the most notoriously unreliable G5s were, as you say, the iMacs.

-- 
 personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
  Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com
-- No matter how cynical I get, I can't keep up. -- Lily Tomlin ---

-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead?

2013-03-15 Thread Clark Martin


Sent from an iPhone, don't ask whose.

On Mar 15, 2013, at 2:01 PM, spilrules t...@tomstock.us wrote:

 I am guessing at this point that the DC inboard jack has diedbut why? Any 
 other thoughts are gladly accepted!

Very likely the DC in board has failed. The jack seems to be a common failure 
point, not surprising considering the abuse it takes. 

I think I have heard of people repairing them, usually resoldering the jack. 

-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead?

2013-03-15 Thread John Carmonne

On Mar 15, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Clark Martin wrote:

 
 
 Sent from an iPhone, don't ask whose.
 
 On Mar 15, 2013, at 2:01 PM, spilrules t...@tomstock.us wrote:
 
 I am guessing at this point that the DC inboard jack has diedbut why? 
 Any other thoughts are gladly accepted!
 
 Very likely the DC in board has failed. The jack seems to be a common failure 
 point, not surprising considering the abuse it takes. 
 
 I think I have heard of people repairing them, usually resoldering the jack. 
 
 -- 

I have repaired a lot of G4 Power Books and for me the most troublesome DC 
board have been the 1.67 A1138 models, some are the jack from abuse and some 
are the board, a mutimeter will tell you which it is.
There are two 1.67's so besure if you have to buy one that you get the corect 
unit:-)

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem






-- 
-- 
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
G-Group group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.