Re: PRAM of MDD
On Nov 12, 2017, at 4:19 AM, Jörg wrote: > Hi > > Sometimes I get a warning after startup of my MDD running Tiger that my clock > is not set right. I understand that's probably a PRAM battery problem. > > As my clock is set to be connected to the internet I always see the right > date and time. There are no other problems as far as I know. > > What problems are known to occur when a MDD has a weak PRAM battery? Is ist > absolutely necessary to change it? Thanks for your comments. > > -- > Per aspera ad astra. > > FWIW I have 2 MDD's and 2 G5 Power Macs they don't even have the batteries in them and I have no issues with any of them. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: PowerMac G5 1.8DP major problem
Have you reset the CUDA switch with all cables unplugged including the power cord? Sent from my Apple Lisa > On Jul 29, 2016, at 5:53 AM, geraldcornish wrote: > > Help > > Power mac G5 1.8DP Tiger 10.4.11 all updates in place > > This morning... > > Woke it up, collected emails, deleted three, mouse froze, pulled it out > plugged it in, no joy, checked keyboard, nothing happening! > > Force shut down, restarted, chime, low fan noise, no display (2x17" ADC, one > via apples power gadget into DVI). > > Force shut down, restarted, held down T for Target Disc Mode, one chime, no > sign of drives on firewire connected G4. > Tried this several times including with display card removed *. > > Force shut down, restarted, Cmmd+Opt+P+R, only one chime, no further action. > > Could this be caused by a duff display card - see *? > > I moved the startup drive to the G4 with an ide/sata adapter and am working > off it now so not a drive problem. > > What is more likely to be the problem? > > What does anyone think I should try to do to resolve the problem before > looking for a replacement? > > Regards to all > > Ged > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > > ---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "G-Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: NSA FBI warning Your browser had been locked
On Oct 26, 2014, at 6:39 PM, smac0031 wrote: > Hello, > > Somehow I got redirected to some website with this header, I think its > ransomware. > In Safari just force quit the browser. and relaunch John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator
On Aug 18, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: > On Aug 18, 2014, at 11:04 AM, James E. Therrault wrote: > >> ...or maybe the latest Intel machine that will boot on Snow Leopard running >> Rossetta. > > In my message of yesterday, I already indicated that "The 2012 Mac mini came > with OS 10.8.1 pre-installed." It will not "boot on Snow Leopard." > You can Carbon Copy a 10.6.8 system to the hard drive and it will run it. The newer machines will only boot via installer with the original or later system. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: MDD G4 Start-up Issue
On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Michael McMurtrey wrote: > Lately, my MCC G4 refuses to start by means of the start button on the front > of the computer. I have to open the case and reset the PMU in order to > re-start. I suspected the PRAM battery might be bad, but it's a new one that > is outputting 3.67 volts. What's up? > The MDD's will run without a battery in them, My MDD's will occasionally not start so if I unplug the power cord in the back and plug back in they start with the button. It may be a PS issue but mine have been doing this for years. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
PowerMac G5 sleep issue
Thought folks here may get some valuable info from this post on Cube Owners by a friend of mine in Grand Junction Colorado, Anwar Shiekh, We both have been working for two weeks on this problem. Maybe some members have some more input? Lost another big chunk of time on a lack of auto deep-sleep under 10.5.8 My G5 PowerMac (latest generation) would not auto deep-sleep (worked fine when done by hand) and that can cost a good chunk of money in electricity (~$100 a year as it idles around 130W, deep-sleeps at about 1/7th of this); turns out that the problem was introduced in 10.5.7 and not fixed in 10.5.8. It is probably a coincidence that the Energy Saver icon was an Edison bulb in 10.5.6, but moved to a CFL in 10.5.7. Earlier G5 PowerMac generations don't seem to suffer this fate, so this may not be of concern to Cube users. P.S. Since writing this I have located two work arounds and one fix from the Web, all of which I have confirmed. * Stick with 10.5.6 as mentioned above (but quite a lot changed from 10.5.6 to 10.5.8) or * Leave a disk in the DVD drive I took the risk of over-riding the Apple firmware with the manufacturer's (LG), but that did not solve the problem; at least I managed not to brick the drive. However * Using another model DVD drive (Apple System Profiler lists the problem drive as: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4165B) is all it took to resolve this issue. I tried an NEC 2100AD from another machine I had, and read that an LG GH22NP20 also solves the problem, and hope to try the Apple branded SONY DW-Q28A soon. Makes one wonder about the wisdom of keeping old equipment running; $100 a year in electricity can soon add up to a new machine. Can't complain that life is not keeping me occupied. Maybe we could start a list of Good and Bad drives with respect to this issue. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: G4 iMac display swap?
On Dec 12, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: >> I don't think the weight with a 17" would be an issue, but what about >> connectivity? Is the hardware the same at the goose neck? >> Would the MOBO be the same? > > I don't know about the motherboard, but Apple used at least two different > kinds of displays, even within the same specific model. The necks also > differ somewhat, but I don't know to what degree and I've never done this > sort of surgery myself. > Yeah I think I will stick with the 15" a 17" would just be a tinkerers project:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 iMac display swap?
On Dec 8, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: >> Anyone know if I can fit a 17" display with housing to a iMac G4 that has an >> existing 15" display at the goose neck level? > > I'd be really careful about that. I'm not sure if the base is weighted > enough for a 17" (I *know* it isn't for a 20"). > > I still use a 15" because the 17" and 20" seem to be too much for the arm > and the strings stretch over time. I see far more sagging displays on the > bigger ones than on the 15". > I don't think the weight with a 17" would be an issue, but what about connectivity? Is the hardware the same at the goose neck? Would the MOBO be the same? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Tibook 256 colors
> On Nov 26, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Geke wrote: > > John, may I ask why you need it to be in 256-colour mode? > Often, problems can be solved in an unexpected way. CAD/CAM program runs only in booted OS9 Mac due to Rainbow dongle -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
G4 iMac display swap?
Anyone know if I can fit a 17" display with housing to a iMac G4 that has an existing 15" display at the goose neck level? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Your Browser has been locked up! Send $300 to...
On Dec 6, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2013, at 3:31 PM, smac0031 wrote: > >> I was surfing the web last week and my browser locked up and this popup >> appeared. These clowns wanted $300. >> > big snip > >> Is this a real threat? > > No > It makes you think they have some control cause it won't let you close the page. I get them often, all you need to do is force quit the browser and continue on. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Tibook 256 colors
On Nov 27, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Charles Lenington wrote: > On 11/25/13 6:25 PM, Clark Martin wrote: >> >> On Nov 25, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Dan wrote: >> >>> At 1:21 PM -0800 11/25/2013, John Carmonne wrote: >>>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Dan wrote: >>>>> At 9:00 AM -0800 11/25/2013, John AOL wrote: >>>>>> I have a G4 Titanium PowerBook that I need to display 256 colors when >>>>>> booted >>>>>> in OS9.2.2 but it only shows Millions. How can I do this >>>>> >>>>> In OS 9, aren't the display capabilities included in the various >>>>> profiles? Perhaps you've lost some of the profiles? Have you tried >>>>> zapping the pram? >>>> >>>> Yes I did all that stuff I can even copy the drive from a working Cube and >>>> a G4 PowerMac and the 25 still doesn't show it does work on the machine in >>>> 10.4.11? >>> >>> John, you make my brain hurt trying to parse that sentence. Have you run >>> out of punctuation? >>> >>> Try booting into OS 9 with extensions off, then open the control panel... >>> Maybe hold down option while you open the control panel? ... There was a >>> key combo or something that made that panel display all available options, >>> I think. >> >> >> > also I think there was one called "switch res". multiresolutions I can't find a copy in either one that runs in OS9 John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Tibook 256 colors
On Nov 26, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Geke wrote: > John, may I ask why you need it to be in 256-colour mode? > Often, problems can be solved in an unexpected way. > CAD/CAM program runs only in booted OS9 Mac due to Rainbow dongle. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Tibook 256 colors
On Nov 25, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Clark Martin wrote: > > On Nov 25, 2013, at 1:48 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > >> >> On Nov 25, 2013, at 1:21 PM, John Carmonne wrote: >> >>> >>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Dan wrote: >>> >>>> At 9:00 AM -0800 11/25/2013, John AOL wrote: >>>>> I have a G4 Titanium PowerBook that I need to display 256 colors when >>>>> booted in OS9.2.2 but it only shows Millions. How can I do this >>>> >>>> In OS 9, aren't the display capabilities included in the various profiles? >>>> Perhaps you've lost some of the profiles? >>>> >>>> Have you tried zapping the pram? >>>> >>>> - Dan. >>>> -- >>>> - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. >>> Yes I did all that stuff I can even copy the drive from a working Cube and >>> a G4 PowerMac and the 25 still doesn't show it does work on the machine in >>> 10.4.11? >>> >>> John >>> >>> >> >> >> I can boot it with a system folder on a USB stick and it works but if I copy >> that folder onto the HDD it only will give millions of colors, This is crazy? > > > My first thought is that perhaps you aren't booting from THAT system after > you copy it over. After you copy it over does the System Folder on the hard > disk have the System Folder ICON or a normal Folder ICON? Yes, it has the icon and is the only system folder present as I delete the old one just to be sure. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Tibook 256 colors
On Nov 25, 2013, at 1:21 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > > On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Dan wrote: > >> At 9:00 AM -0800 11/25/2013, John AOL wrote: >>> I have a G4 Titanium PowerBook that I need to display 256 colors when >>> booted in OS9.2.2 but it only shows Millions. How can I do this >> >> In OS 9, aren't the display capabilities included in the various profiles? >> Perhaps you've lost some of the profiles? >> >> Have you tried zapping the pram? >> >> - Dan. >> -- >> - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. > Yes I did all that stuff I can even copy the drive from a working Cube and a > G4 PowerMac and the 25 still doesn't show it does work on the machine in > 10.4.11? > > John > > I can boot it with a system folder on a USB stick and it works but if I copy that folder onto the HDD it only will give millions of colors, This is crazy? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Tibook 256 colors
On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Dan wrote: > At 9:00 AM -0800 11/25/2013, John AOL wrote: >> I have a G4 Titanium PowerBook that I need to display 256 colors when booted >> in OS9.2.2 but it only shows Millions. How can I do this > > In OS 9, aren't the display capabilities included in the various profiles? > Perhaps you've lost some of the profiles? > > Have you tried zapping the pram? > > - Dan. > -- > - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. Yes I did all that stuff I can even copy the drive from a working Cube and a G4 PowerMac and the 25 still doesn't show it does work on the machine in 10.4.11? John John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
G4 PowerMac OS9 with two monitors?
I have a G4 Dual 1.25 PowerMac that I want to run OS 9.2.2 with two monitors, Can this be done? Do I need some extension or Control panel for it? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Unresponsive script warning on Facebook
On Aug 1, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Cheryl H wrote: > I get this message every time I try to use Facebook: > > A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can > stop the script now, or you can continue to see if the script will complete. > > Script: https://fbstatic-a.akamaihd.net/rsrc.php/v2/yw/r/eNJGemJDFDG.js:43 > > I'm on a PPC mac mini running 10.5.9, using TenFourFox as my browser. A > friend said something about script runtime? I ran OnyX and cleared my cache > and cookies. Didn't help. > > Thanks, > > Cheryl Harris > Tehachapi, CA > I think FaceBook will not run your browser any longer, I had Camino and it would do the same thing. Safari works good. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: SATA Internal HD for G5
On Jul 31, 2013, at 6:45 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: > >> You might look at a used several years old velociraptor on the popular >> auction site. Otherwise any 7200rpm drive should do just fine for you. >> Personally I've had drives from every maker except Samsung fail, but it is >> probably only a matter of time for them too. > > Noboby makes flawless drives, as all drives, but perhaps most particularly > WD's, are made to low price-points (exception: so-called "enterprise" > drives, which are built to a much higher price- and performance-point). > > Samsung is now owned by Seagate. > Hitachi and Seagate are my choice in the 7200 64MB. Never had a Hitachi go yet, but I'm sure someday one will. Newegg most times has the best price, look for the weekly sales:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Troubles
On Jul 29, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:07 PM, Charles Lenington wrote: > >> Check the battery. Being in storage could have run down battery. > > Yes, I 2nd this, excellent advise, and often a problem. > I have a G5 Dual 2.7 and it boots without a PRAM battery in it. Mine did the no boot and fan runway, in the end it turned out to be the logic board. I spent a lot of time fighting this it would boot the "ASD 2.5.8" disc but not any install boot disc or HDD. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Troubles
On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Jul 29, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Ken Daggett wrote: > >> I was hoping to resurrect this machine with no significant $$ outlay. >> >> I did as John Carmonne suggested (reset CUDA and reseat RAM) but still no >> joy. > > These symptoms are similar to what happens with a partial power supply > failure. > > You might get a multimeter and carefully check out the voltages using this G5 > pinout diagram. > > As I remember, my G5 lost all the +3.3V when it failed, resulting in a black > boot with runaway fans. > Possibly reseat all connections on logic board? Including HDD. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Troubles
On Jul 29, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Ken Daggett wrote: > > I picked up a G5 dual 2.0 PCI-x a couple of days ago. The hard drive had been > wiped, but it started right up to the flashing "?" > > I stuck in a retail 10.3 disk and installed and then upgraded to 10.4.11. It > ran for a day or so and even successfully started Classic. > > Then, after a day of running properly, it won't launch. It does start with > the proper "Chime" but then shows only a blank screen for several minutes > before the fans gradually increase speed to max. > > I have: > > Reset NVRAM in Open Firmware: No change. > > Reset PRAM; No change. > > Installed new PRAM battery: No change. > > I opened it up, wiped all the fans clean, blew out a bit of dust. No change. > > I am looking for ideas from anyone who has more experience with this machine > that I do. > > I have taken apart and put into operation most other types of Macs, from a > 128 through DP Mirror Door, and a few PowerBooks, so I thought I might be > able to "save" this machine from the scrappers. HELP! > > Ken > > -- Unplug all cables including AC, Press CUDA switch for ten seconds. If that doesn't help reseat the RAM. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dead G5 dual 1.8 tower
On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:09 AM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: I put my G5 tower in storage for 7 months while I was away. I'm back now and when I attempted to power on the machine, it is dead as a doorstop. No power LED, no fan spinning - absolutely dead. I tried different power cables, confirmed wall power receptacle is good, still no go. BTW the machine had absolutely no issues prior to storage. Please help With it unplugged press and hold the CUDA switch for 10 secs that may get it to boot, The battery does not have to be in these machines to boot, at least not in any of mine. John Carmonne Yorba Linda Ca 92886 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: AWORKS oddity
On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:35 AM, JohnV wrote: AppleWorks 6.2.9 has started doing something different. When I highlight text, instead of shading it, it surrounds it in a line- box. THen, if I single-click anywhere else on the page, it will NOT un-select the text. John V 10.4.11 Most of the time I have a funny problem with Apple Works 6 all I do is trash the plist. John Carmonne Yorba Linda Ca 92886 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead?
On Mar 15, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Clark Martin wrote: > > > Sent from an iPhone, don't ask whose. > > On Mar 15, 2013, at 2:01 PM, spilrules wrote: > >> I am guessing at this point that the DC inboard jack has diedbut why? >> Any other thoughts are gladly accepted! > > Very likely the DC in board has failed. The jack seems to be a common failure > point, not surprising considering the abuse it takes. > > I think I have heard of people repairing them, usually resoldering the jack. > > -- I have repaired a lot of G4 Power Books and for me the most troublesome DC board have been the 1.67 A1138 models, some are the jack from abuse and some are the board, a mutimeter will tell you which it is. There are two 1.67's so besure if you have to buy one that you get the corect unit:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: MDD G4 Leopard native OS 9 boot
On Feb 16, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 16, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Click wrote: I very much need a native OS9 boot machine. Why won't Classic suffice? In my case I use a CAD/CAM program $15,000.00 that incorporates a Rainbow hardware dongle that requires OS9 boots the Eve extension, so some of us really do need native OS9. No work around for this dongle extension in Classic so far. I would think after 20+ years it could be done but no cigar:-) John Carmonne Broadway Mfg Inc. broadway...@gmail.com 714 335 6925 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: MDD G4 Leopard native OS 9 boot
On Feb 16, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Alex Sciortino wrote: IIRC MDDs don't support OS9. -- -- MDD F/W800's don't boot OS9, The FW/400 does. John Carmonne Broadway Mfg Inc. broadway...@gmail.com 714 335 6925 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: REPAIRING MOTHERBOARD WITH HEAT
On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:04 PM, ROBERT H. BAUCOM wrote: > Doe's this fill within the definition of JURY RIG ? :-) > RHB > > > >> >> >>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: >>> >>>> One of the suggested trick was the hair dryer one (it makes the solders >>>> contacts temporarily working). >>> >>> In industrial heat gun is just a super hot hairdryer, and Harbor Freight >>> sells cheap ones for $9.99 that are hot enough to easily reflow solder. >>> You'd need to mask off the rest of the board with foil and be very careful, >>> but you can fix these broken solder joints if you're lucky. I think you meant Jerry Rigged?? This method can work with the use of a heat gun when working with a board that has low value and the Scotle HR-360 machine is beyond your reach. The pro logic board repair machines are mostly just controlled heat guns. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??
On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > My 2.3 dual CPU G5 is super picky about RAM. I had to reseat RAM and restart > about 30x to get 4 pairs in all 8 slots to recognize simultaneously. It took > hours. I got one pair to recognize, then shutdown and added a new pair until > I got two pairs, then added a third pair, and finally a fourth pair. VERY > frustrating experience. I haven't touched the RAM since then, a couple years > ago. I've got 6GB total as 4x1GB and 4x512MB. I've now got four more 1GB > sticks so I could upgrade to the 8GB max but I'm too chicken to risk the > likely hassles for only 2GB extra. Someday I intend to add the extra RAM, > just not now. I'd say ... keep trying ... with crossed fingers. > > -- > -- Same here Kris. I've got 4 sticks of 1 G's too and keep putting off the swap out. I know it will be a weekend project:-) I wonder if the extra RAM will be worth the effort after pounding on them for hours. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 Power Mac Failure: Replacement SATA & OSX
On Feb 2, 2013, at 7:30 AM, Evan Thomas wrote: > Hey Y'all, > > My G5 appears to have experienced an HDD failure and now hangs at boot on the > logo screen. I bought it with Leopard pre-installed so I'm now in need of a > replacement SATA drive and a copy of OSX. Money is tight so cheapest possible > options. I only want to use it for Final Cut Express 4 and Adobe Creative > Suite CS3. > I would try DiskWarrior on the drive before I'd replace it. Also you can try to get a Carbon Copy off it if you have an external drive. > SATA HDD > I was thinking something less than 100GB just for the OS. What are the > implications of type or speed of SATA drive? I'm only aware that 7200rpm is > best for video scratch disks but what about OS? I have a 320GB in there for > video scratch purposes. > > OSX > I think I can get by with Tiger? Certainly true for FCE 4. Is Snow Leopard a > stand-alone OS? Can't seem to find any G5 original installation disks for > sale. Now cruising eBay. Tiger is certainly faster than Leopard and Snow Leopard is Intel only' > > Many thanks, > Evan > > G5 / 2.0 / DP / 512MB > John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5: 3 blinks and no boot
On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:50 AM, valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote: Hi all, my trusty PowerMac G5 DP 2.7 (Early 2005) isn't trusty anymore. :-( I've collected answers and suggestions and I'm going to try them, but I wanted t o ask here, in case some member had similar trouble and found a solution. The funniest advice is to blow your hair dryer onto the memory slots for some mi nutes :-D and it seems the best working, but it's usually just a temporary fix. I hope for some magic or voodoo now. :-) It would be a waste throwing this beautiful machine into the bin. You can try spraying some contact cleaner into the slots, and gently rubbing a mars eraser (the white rubber kind) gently on the contacts on the DIMMS themselves. However, the suddeness and the fact that it happened while it was running does seem to indicate that maybe it's amemory controller that failed on the mobo. Have you tried populating different slots (the G5's need them in pairs, but any pair in any slot set will do) if you get the errors regardless, it's most likely the logic board. I have found that seating the RAM in my Dual 2.7 can almost need a mallet to get them to report. That being said, reseat the LCS and while doing that check for leaking. Try to boot with an ASD 2.5.7 or ASD 2.5.8 disc, they bypass a lot of issues on the logic board. Can you tell if the USB ports are live? John Carmonne Broadway Mfg Inc. Placentia CA 92870 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Pro Testing Suggestions
On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: > Dear Listers, > > I would like our Group to start including Intel Macs. I think that many of > us are using old G3s, 4s and 5s as well as Intel models. > > Your thoughts? > > > Larry > > I would like to see this too, many are transitioning to the Intel's and and some posts include both. An example: G5 and Mac Pro are the same but for the processors. And use the same System in the OSX 10.5. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Pro Testing Suggestions
On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:11 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: > Il giorno 10/01/13 06:58, Kris Tilford ha scritto: > >>> I am also getting a copy of Snow Leopard >> >> Skip straight to Mountain Lion. > > I respectfully disagree. > First, if you don't know the OP needs, how could you know what's best for > him? > Second, Snow Leopard has - at least - a couple benefits over Lion / M.Lion: > - SL can still run PPC applications (via Rosetta) > - the interface is - IMHO - better and clearer. > > I had to use a Lion-equipped Mac, and I was lost! :-o > The user interface and Finder didn't behave like I was used to; Mac's user > friendliness my @ss! > (and I'm a long time Mac user, no newbie) > > Thus no, newer is NOT always better. ;-) > All you need to do in 10.7 or 10.8 is go to system and Mail preferences and tune them to act exactly like SL 10.6 Plus Dictation and Mission control is a super upgrade. Yes, the loss of Rosetta is a PITA so I keep SL on for just that. Virtual box can take care of that issue also. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Pro Testing Suggestions
On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:28 AM, James Knight wrote: > I disagree. There are plenty of websites and resources available for Intel > era macs. > > Sent from my mobile device. That may be so but the knowledge base here is better than most. Plus the others are mostly forums. > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: > >> Dear Listers, >> >> I would like our Group to start including Intel Macs. I think that many of >> us are using old G3s, 4s and 5s as well as Intel models. >> >> Your thoughts? >> >> >> Larry John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Pro Testing Suggestions
On Jan 9, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:
> Just got a nice deal on a Mac Pro 3,1 (Early 2008) 2 x 3.0MHz with Intel Xeon
> 5400 series ("Harpertown") processors.
>
> What type of testing might I run, to exercise the various parts? Is there an
> Apple Hardware Test or Service Diagnostics that I could get a hold of?
>
> I have run Geekbench, and am trying to compare the details of the results
> with others on the benchmark site, but its a bit tedious hunting down the
> data for comparison (still working on it).
>
> I am also getting a copy of Snow Leopard (currently running 10.5.8), and hope
> to compare some results there as well.
>
> Basically want to know everything is working correctly.
>
> Suggestions welcomed.
>
I use ASD 3S116 on my Mac Pro it's all the tests.
John Carmonne
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92886 USA
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Re: That Thin Line
On Dec 30, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Jim Scott wrote: > > You didn't say, but I'm guessing it's a 17" iMac. That particular form factor > is notorious for LCD failure, which begins with one row of stuck pixels and > progresses to the point where there are so many rows they can't be counted, > and often whole chunks of white screen. In other words, your LCD is headed > southward like untold numbers of others. > > If it's a 20" iMac, it could be the video card or the LCD, but more likely > the LCD if the external monitor's OK. > > Think about how many times you've seen a LEM Swap member looking for a good > LCD for a 17" Intel iMac, then check the going price for a used one on eBay > (@$200), if you doubt me. Been there, done that. > Here's an alternative to throwing out a good Mac, HiRez screens too. http://www.realmacmods.com/uni4.html John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I use an OS X 10.5 - G4 Installation on a G5?
On Dec 30, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: > > Maybe I'm overthinking this before I try it, but ... > > Are most SATA hard drives compatible with the G5 Quad Core? > > For example, when you read earlier Specs about the G5, it says you can > install "up to a 500GB" SATA drive. I'm guessing that was the largest one > available at the time ... 1TB+ now should be ok? I have 5 2TB Hitachi 7200 RPM in mine wit the use on a Jive 5 adaptor that allows 3 more drives in front of the intake fans, John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple --AHT images?
On Dec 27, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Fabian Fang wrote: On Dec 27, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: Anyone have the AHT 2.5.2 for use with a Quad Core G5 2.5GHz? It's supposed to be on an Applications Install DVD that comes with OS X 10.5.5 and greater DVDs ... I think. I have OS X 10.5 Retail which seems to be missing it. I do not see it on my "retail" OS 10.5.6 DVD. On the other hand, the Mac OS X Install Disc 1 for my old iMac G5 (iSight) includes AHT Version 2.5.3. I have ASD 2.6.3 John Carmonne Broadway Mfg Inc. Placentia CA 92870 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can I use an OS X 10.5 - G4 Installation on a G5?
On Dec 30, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: > Wondering if I can use the OS X 10.5.8 installation I have on a harddrive, > that was created on a G4, in my PowerMac Quad Core G5? > > Is the file system on a G5 different than a G4? > > Can I simply CCC my OS X 10.5.8 G4 to my G5? > > Could I just insert the SATA drive, also formatted on a G4, into the G5, and > select it as the Startup disk? > > Comments welcomed. Yes it will work just use Apple Software Update after booting All you lose is Classic. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G3 iMac to Quadra via Ethernet
I have a G3 iMac 600 OS9.2.2 connected to a Quadra 650 7.5.5 via Ethernet. I can mount the Quadra HDD on the G3 desk top but I can't get the IMac HDD to mount on the Quadra desk top because I can't get "File Sharing" on the G3 to start. I've rebooted and Zapped PRAM. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
On Aug 13, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: The colour of the cable doesn't necessarily mean anything. However, it might say on the markings. If it says PATCH on the markings of the cable jacket, it is NOT a crossover cable. Er, it is *probably* not a crossover cable. I guess there could be some pathologic DIYer who uses patch cable but wires it up in reverse. My crossover cables actually say CROSSOVER on them, however. -- Got lucky on the orange cable this one is a crossover but it doesn't say on the cable but the colors don't match on the ends. Thanks for the help every one, The Quadra to G3 and G4 via Ethernet is running perfect. OS 9 made it easy. 10.4.11 seems to be a real PITA with the AFP deal. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
On Aug 13, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Ken Daggett wrote: > > On 13 Aug 2012, at 19:32:15 PDT, Cameron Kaiser wrote: >> >> Er, it is *probably* not a crossover cable. I guess there could be some >> pathologic DIYer who uses patch cable but wires it up in reverse. My >> crossover >> cables actually say CROSSOVER on them, however. > - > Easiest way is to hold the two ends of the cable together, in the same > position, and look at the colored wires through the connectors. If the wires > are the same in both, you have a "regular" cable. If not, you most likely > have a "crossover" cable. > > Ken That I can do it's the simple things that slip by. I spent all day trying to get this thing going and tomorrow I hope it all goes as stated here,:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
On Aug 13, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: >>> >> >> Do I need to assign IP addresses to the machines to do this? > > Since it doesn't sound like you have AFP-over-TCP or a similar tool like > ShareWay IP installed on the Quadra, you'll just be using EtherTalk, and > that doesn't need an IP address. You just need to have AppleTalk on and set > to use Ethernet. You don't need TCP/IP for that. > Ok thanks I'll get back at it in the morning. What settings doI need to look at on the iMac? OS 9.2.2. So as I get it I will mount the G3 via Chooser on the desktop of the Quadra. I'm pretty sure my cable is a crossover I was told that the orange color designates that but is there a more positive way. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
On Aug 13, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: >> I have a G3 iMac 600 OS 9.2.2 and I need to connect it to a Quadra 650 OS >> 7.5.5 via Ethernet. I only need to transfer text files to and from the desk >> tops of the two machines, no internet or program sharing, only file sharing. > > Just turn on file sharing from the control panel on the G3 and then use the > Q650 as a client (you could do it in the reverse direction but that will > probably be slower). You could do this with Tiger on the G3, but you'd need > AFP-over-TCP enabled on the Q650, so OS 9 I agree would be easier because > it still speaks AFP over traditional EtherTalk Phase 2. > How do I turn on the AFP on the 650? I looked and don't see anything it's 7.5.5. Speed is not an issue here just as long as I can daily get files from the Quadra to the G3 and onto a USB stick. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
On Aug 13, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: >> I have a G3 iMac 600 OS 9.2.2 and I need to connect it to a Quadra 650 OS >> 7.5.5 via Ethernet. I only need to transfer text files to and from the desk >> tops of the two machines, no internet or program sharing, only file sharing. > > Just turn on file sharing from the control panel on the G3 and then use the > Q650 as a client (you could do it in the reverse direction but that will > probably be slower). You could do this with Tiger on the G3, but you'd need > AFP-over-TCP enabled on the Q650, so OS 9 I agree would be easier because > it still speaks AFP over traditional EtherTalk Phase 2. > Do I need to assign IP addresses to the machines to do this? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
I have a G3 iMac 600 OS 9.2.2 and I need to connect it to a Quadra 650 OS 7.5.5 via Ethernet. I only need to transfer text files to and from the desk tops of the two machines, no internet or program sharing, only file sharing. I've done this in the past but I'm at a block wall on it now. I want a very simple one cable setup, anyone know how to do this? I've tried to do it with Tiger on the G3 but I get nowhere so I'm going to install OS 9 on it instead. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quad G5 power consumption
On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Illirik Smirnov wrote: > Does anyone have any figures as to peak quad G5 power consumption? The > University has six spares and I think I wanna make a Beowulf cluster for > kicks. > -- -- > Illirik Smirnov > > I have a G5 Dual 2.7 and it draws 39 Watts off, 95Watts at idle and 350 + when working like CCC or burning two DVD's The Quad is also a water pumper with two pumps as my 2.7. It has a Panasonic liquid cooled processor with two pumps. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial DB9 pin
On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: I need to get a USB to DB9 serial cable . Do I need a driver for this cable? G4 or G3 OS 10.4.11 Maybe. As I recall there's a hard-to-find (Belkin? MacAlly? Keyspan?) cable that doesn't need a driver; I ran across this looking up some GPS-related info a while back, about connecting GPS units to use as input devices for mapping programs on the Mac. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs There are no Belkin that I can find for OS X I do have a Belkin F31661-06 but it's for OS 9. and even at that it never do work hardly. I'll check for the other brands. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
USB to serial DB9 pin
I need to get a USB to DB9 serial cable . Do I need a driver for this cable? G4 or G3 OS 10.4.11 John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
On Jul 16, 2012, at 5:26 PM, James Morgan wrote: > I used to rely on Diskwarrior a lot. I will upgrade my copy and give it a > try. Thanks for the suggestion. I also used Tech Tool Pro a few years ago > when I was still running OS 9. Do you recommend Tech Tool Pro as well, or is > Diskwarrior sufficient? > James Morgan DiskWarrior can be magic some times Tech Tool never helped me any more than disk utility. DiskWarrior is my number one goto. Also re install the system can be the fix or a combination of the two. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Testing HD Performance & RAM In MDD Under X.4 or X.5
On Jul 15, 2012, at 7:37 PM, t...@prismnet.com wrote: What do folks recommend to use to test RAM for defects in an MDD under 10.4 or 10.5. I guess I could boot into 9.2 and use the old standby, RAMometer. I have here an MDD which has been working mostly trouble-free for years with 1.5 GB of RAM. I have a .5GB stick on hand I pulled from a G4 Mini and I'd like to add it, but I'm concerned that I'll screw up a good thing. No reason for my suspicion, just paranoia. So I want to test the RAM after I add the odd stick. MemTest is free and works best for me. Also, after a hard drive failure, I've finally installed a 6880M in the machine, and configured it to boot off of mirrored volumes in OS9 and 10.4 and 10.5. I'd like to compare the disk performance I'm getting now, mirrored volumes on a 6880M, to what I was getting off of singleton drives on the built-in bus. Drive Genius is my favorite for this and also DiskWarrior can find errors. If I've taken a small performance hit, it's worth it for the redundancy. But I had to jump through enough installation hoops to get this working, that I want to confirm that it's not running at something like 25% of what a drive on the built-in would run at. I haven't noticed any substantial performance hit, so it's probably fine, but numbers are reassuring. I use Carbon Copy Cloner's timer to check drive speeds between various ports. Thanks, Jeff Walther John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Thanks for the reply. I am wondering, should I wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS 10.4? FWIW I always run DiskWarrior after any system upgrades. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Problem .pdf
On Jul 9, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Clark Martin wrote: Sent from an iPhone, don't ask whose. On Jul 8, 2012, at 1:03 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Friday I received an order form from a vendor to complete and electronically sign, so I filled out the form, created a secure signature in Acrobat Pro 9 and applied it to the document. However when I email the PDF it arrives as a blank form just as I received it from the vendor. If I open it on the desktop it's complete with the signature. Someone know what I'm doing wrong? I'm using a G5 PM with 10.5.8 and Adobe Acrobat Pro 9. Ask the vendor to e-mail the file you sent back to you and check if you can see the signature there. I've emailed to to another one of my email address's to check plus it shows blank when attached, and when received. I must be missing something but I can't find it. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Problem .pdf
On Jul 9, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Doug McNutt wrote: At 01:03 -0700 7/8/12, John Carmonne wrote: On Friday I received an order form from a vendor to complete and electronically sign, so I filled out the form, created a secure signature in Acrobat Pro 9 and applied it to the document. However when I email the PDF it arrives as a blank form just as I received it from the vendor. If I open it on the desktop it's complete with the signature. Someone know what I'm doing wrong? I'm using a G5 PM with 10.5.8 and Adobe Acrobat Pro 9. It used to be that Acrobat (5 in my case), when you changed something like filling out a form or adding a signature, would demand that you save as with a new or modified name in a way that would preserve the original. The saved file is a unique name. It might also depend on the permissions in the original. Check around and see if your modified file is around somewhere and you're now looking at the carefully saved original. I do have both files, but It still comes up blank when I attach it to an email, -- John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Problem .pdf
On Friday I received an order form from a vendor to complete and electronically sign, so I filled out the form, created a secure signature in Acrobat Pro 9 and applied it to the document. However when I email the PDF it arrives as a blank form just as I received it from the vendor. If I open it on the desktop it's complete with the signature. Someone know what I'm doing wrong? I'm using a G5 PM with 10.5.8 and Adobe Acrobat Pro 9. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 - how to migrate data?
On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Ben Dinger wrote: > On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 05:33:10PM -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote: >> Migration assistant is pretty smart and won't move things over that'll mess >> up the system and handles dissimilar system version well. > > Will it do well going from PPC to Intel? That's one migration, oddly, I've > never done. I've always been PPC-->PPC, but when I (finally) bit the Intel > bullet, I did a clean install on a new machine. Same for when I got my new > Pro in January. I'd like to just get her on a Intel machine as they're > within 20% of the price of a PPC, and we all know the performance > jump/software compatibility they increase. > > I'm pretty sure software-wise we'll be fine thanks to Rosetta, but just don't > want to get a "gotcha". I'm specifically looking at Al Intel iMacs with > Tiger or Leopard on them. I'd use migration assistant to get her going, and > then make sure she's at least on 10.5.8, eventually move her to Snow Leopard > once all the software has been upgraded. > > Ben Tiger on Intel affords no advantage over Leopard Intel machines don't support "Classic" so Leopard is the way to go with the Intel's also Snow Leopard is the only one that needs Rosetta to run the PPC programs the Leopard runs them with out it. The Migration is easy and transparent from PPC to Intel. You'll be able to boot the same volume on Leopard and PPC as long as the HDD is formatted Apple Partition Map. The only system so far that actually requires GUID is Lion 10.7 John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 - how to migrate data?
On Jul 2, 2012, at 3:21 PM, bdinger wrote: > Hi All, > My aunt has a 17in 1.8 G5 iMac (M9843LL/A) that unfortunately seems to have a > bad logic board. You know, comes on but with the fans set at "747" and no > SMU or PRAM reset will do much for it. They don't have the most means-wise, > and so I'm looking at options for them. Right now it's either: > 1.) Find the same model, and move the hard disk over to it > 2.) Somehow migrate the data onto a newer Intel Mac > > Obviously I'd prefer 2, but I know that using Migration assistant all but > requires the source to either be working, or a recent OS level. So I can > hope that I'd find a Intel Mac for her running Tiger still, but that > likelihood is low, and even if so I've never run migration assistant using a > external drive AND going from PPC to Intel. > > Any suggestions? This is just a bad situation all around as in addition, > this machine contains the QuickBooks data for their business. > > Cheers, > Ben Just revome the drive and either insall it in the new machine or in an external enclosure and use CCC to transfer the volume Also if you have the HDD in an external I would uptate the OS to 10.5.8 that way any iMac over 867 MHz will accept it and all your info will be there. BTW did you reseat the RAM in the iMac? It's a common problem with those. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No video G5
On Jun 27, 2012, at 6:45 AM, Alex Sciortino wrote: I have the DP 2.0. I have reset the CUDA. I have the stock card in it now, but had a 9800 Pro in it. It bongs and boots fine just no video. If I change the volume I get blips and everything. Those machines are very touchy about RAM Take all the sticks out and just install 1 pair, Sometimes you have to push in real hard maybe more than once. While you're in there I would reseat the processor too. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No video G5
On Jun 26, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Alex Sciortino wrote: > I have tried both. I run the G4 in through VGA and the G5 though DVI. I tried > running the G5 with VGA but no dice. I also put the card from the G5 (9800 > Pro) into my G4 and it worked flawlessly. So I suppose this just got costly… > Any way to test the mobo and PSU? ASD 2.5.8 is what will test, it may work without the onboard video other wise maybe a MOBO. Did you reset the CUDA and reseat the RAM? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best wireless card for a G5?
On Jun 26, 2012, at 8:04 PM, a1 wrote: > So, if i buy this mini USB adapter, I just plug it into any USB port > on my G5 and I get wireless? It is the whole wireless card itself--- > not merely an adapter to plug some other wireless card into? Is it > seen as Airport Extreme? > It will not use the AirPort utility software it uses is third party software but it's real easy IMHO Ralink software is the one to use. The USB dongle is all you need, it's the whole card. > John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No video G5
On Jun 26, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Alex Sciortino wrote: > Resetting the NVRAM and PRAM didn't work. Any other advice? > > - What model of PM G5 do you have? And what model of video card. Do you get a flashing power button light when you try to boot it? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No video G5
On Jun 26, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Alex Sciortino wrote: > That isn't working either. Even the Leopard install CD won't work. > > It's possible the video got set to a mode the monitors don't support. Try > holding down the shift key during start up to boot into "safe mode". Have you plugged the display into another machine to test it? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is SCSI DRIVE SAME AS UATA DRIVE?
On Jun 25, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Jun 25, 2012, at 1:09 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: > >>> >>> Back when Apple stopped making the original Airport card, there were still >>> a LOT of Macs in use that had a slot for one but didn't have a card, the >>> price shot up to nearly $200. >> >> Pretty much. >> >> Now, anyone, anywhere, can get a "third-party Airport-compatible" card by >> going to Hong Kong, via eBay, and buying a Broadcom 4111 and a mini-PCI >> converter, or a 4318 or 4322 and a mini-PCI-e converter, all for under >> $10, complete. > > Not one that'll plug into the airport slot of a Pismo they can't...which was > my point. Those are Airport Extreme-compatible devices. I use a Aria extreme Wireless CardBus Card it plugs right in and uses the AirPort software. Way faster than the Apple Original AirPort b speed cards. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Flash help??
On a G4 PPC 1.67 10.5.8. Every time I try to play a video on Face Book I get a dialog box telling me to upgrade Flash, but all that's offered for 10.5 is Intel only. Any one know how I can play these video's John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube ?
On Jun 17, 2012, at 12:52 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: > -- Original message -- > Subject: Re: Cube ? > Date:Saturday, 16. June 2012 > From:Rick > To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > > Good site to look at: > http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/All_Things_PPC.html > > Should you also be looking for OS 9 graphics upgrade options: > http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Blog/8923D90A-7AD8-41F1-BD1A-FEA5E1780B95.html > > And for OS X: > http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Blog/4B4B7BA2-7ABB-47F1-87AC-B03D37942BEE.html > > Cheers, > Andreas aka Mac User #330250 > Lots of help and info here too. Real good forum to join. http://www.cubeowner.com/kbase_2/index.php?article=100 John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube ?
On Jun 16, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Rick wrote: > Hello, > Well I was reading a article on lowend mac about someone author going back to > OS 9, > since now, apple has basic drop support for all G4/G5 and now its all intel > platform. > So... I may bump up the memory to max, and add a processor to speed things > up, if OS 9 can handle that ? > > So, let me ask, is there anyone out there running a cube max out in memory > and a processor, > but just running OS 9 only ?, if so how does it run, or some problems ? > > Major Thanks ! > Rick > I have a Cube with a Sonnet 1.2 processor, 120 GB 7200 RPM Seagate HDD, 1.5 GB RAM and a ATI Radeon 7500. My CAD/CAM program runs on OS 9 and the max RAM makes rendering in zoomed mode really fast. However OS 9 on 450MHz and 512 RAM is a power house. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD won't connect to internet
On Jun 16, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Alex Sciortino wrote: > Was there any lightning? If there was the onboard Ethernet may be shot. > > >> So, any ideas about what is wrong with it, and what I can do to fix it? >> >> >> > I would reset the machine by disconnecting all cables then remove the RAM depress the CUDA switch for 15 seconds. Then replace the RAM and cables. Restart zapping the PRAM, I don't think it's a bad Ethernet port because it does see the router. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube ?
On Jun 15, 2012, at 10:27 PM, PeteMo wrote: > HI > I also have a stock G4 Cube 450 MHz with the stock 16mb Rage ATI graphics and > 120GB Hard Drive. I maxed out the RAM and > am running Tiger 10.4.11 quite happily. You should be able to dual boot > between mac OS 9.2.2 and Tiger, although I only run Tiger on mine, but do run > Mac OS 9.2.2, Tiger 10.4.11 and Leopard 10.5.8 on my Quicksilver 933 happily. > > Enjoy the best of both worlds and have a 9.2.2 partition and Tiger partition > on your hard drive. > > I'm looking at getting a NVidia 6200 graphics card as this is Core Image (and > therefore Quartz Extreme by default) compatable to run Leopard. > > Enjoy these iconic machines that are now almost 12 years old and still going > strong. > > Cheers > Pete > > On Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:43:01 AM UTC+8, zpro wrote: > I just inherit a Mac Cube... what would be the best setup for this unit > as far as OS is concern... OS 9 or OS X > This is a stock unit... > > Regards- > Richard Nice to see some Cube owners suface:-) Although it's possible to get Leopard on a 450 Cube via Helper or Carbon Copy Cloner it is really slow. I have 10.5.8 on one machine with a 1.2 processor and Radeon 7500 card because iTunes requires 10.5. The bgger problem with the Cube for me is the 100 MHz Bus speed. Any streaming video, Skype, YouTube or iChat is annoyingly choppy to impossible. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube ?
On Jun 15, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Rick wrote: > Yes, I just looking to run one OS, what would be the latest or last version > of OS 9? > and can I just install it directly onto the hard drive, or is there some prep > work is needed ? > > Thanks > Rick > OS 9.2.2 is the latest and most stable version. If you only want OS 9 then initialize the drive with the installer disc. Then just install, no special actions needed. If you have OS9 on another machine then all you need to do is copy the Application and System folder and drag them to the Cube drive via Firewire ports using "Target Disk Mode". However it lives very nicely on the Tiger volume. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube ?
On Jun 15, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Douglas Mencken wrote: >> OS 9 or OS X > > Actually, you can have them both. Even on the same volume. > One of my Cubes has a Sonnet Encore 1.2 GHz processor so I have OS 9.2.2, 10.4.11, and 10.5.8. All three run just fine. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Leopard won't install on G5 1.8ghz dual power mac.
On Jun 12, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Douglas Mencken wrote: >> AFAIK all DVD drives can read dual-layer media. > > This is wrong. I have a lot of DVD optical drives which *absolutely > can't* read dual-layer DVDs. I think a commercial Dual Layer DVD will read, The problem disc's are burned Dual Layer ones other than an occasional bad drive in which case it will not read any DL DVD. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bringing G3 back into use
On Jun 11, 2012, at 3:53 PM, glen wrote: > > > > > - Original Message - >> From: AppleMac Revisited > >> >> Specification: >> Beige G3 >> Power PC G3 266MHz 1MB Cache >> 64MB/4GB HD/24x CD/MSO > >> Machine has been out of use for a couple of years. Rebooted it this >> morning, screen message came up: >> >> “Your computer crashed or was not shut down properly the last time it >> was used. Your startup disk is being checked by Disk First Aid, and >> any problems will be repaired.” >> >> Mouse arrow appeared on screen alongside this message but arrow would >> not respond when I moved mouse control to click the proceed box. I >> remembered during regular use before that this would normally clear >> message and boot up machine. > > > Just a long shot. If you are using the original ADB mouse check the > connection. I have had a similar problem when an ADB mouse connection was not > fully seated or dirty. --glen > I just this weekend dug out a PPC 603e machine with a G3 card and I had the same issue a few times while upgrading to OS 9.2. I plugged the mouse into the Mac instead of the keyboard, also each time I ran into this I zapped the PRAM to clear the machine I did notice a lag some times before the mouse would respond. Plus in this state you have to use the ADB port if using a USB card the USB mouse or keyboard won't work till the extensions load. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Leopard won't install on G5 1.8ghz dual power mac.
On Jun 10, 2012, at 8:28 PM, TFH wrote: > I'm rehabbing this 2004 model (Dual G5 1.8, 2GB ram, 250GB HD) which > does not have a dual layer dvd drive. I've installed Tiger 4.11, and > it is stable and fast. I've tried putting the Leopard dvd onto my > external HD in it's own partition, (had outside help with this) but it > won't install. I've made a disk image from this drive, and that gets > me to "Restart" in the Leopard installer, but it won't boot- just blue > screen. Selecting the HD partition as the boot drive via firewire > results in the cooling fans redlining! Do I really have to get an > external dual-layer dvd drive, and would this even work? > Thank you. > I do this by making a boot image from an install DVD using the restore function in disk utility. You need a partition and when you start up use the option key to select the start up volume. It will boot as it was a DVD. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Powerbook power problems
On Jun 8, 2012, at 5:57 AM, MacMini-Dave wrote: > My wife has a G4 Powerbook. We replaced the AC adapter cord once > already, but it is not charging again. I have carefully pinched the > metal part to make it fit more tightly, but still no power. The > battery is weak, but it was still working as of two days ago. I don't > need it to work for long, just long enough to copy a document to a > thumbdrive. > > I don't know anyone in the area with a battery that we could swap > until the job is done. > > Help! > I have to turn them till I get a connection quite often, if that doesn't do it and you tested the voltage in at the DC board then the DC board is probably bad. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Can't burn disc skipped operation.
I have a G5 Dual 2.7 with 10.5.8 and when I try to burn a DVD with disk Utility I get an error that states "can't burn disc user skipped operation" I can burn using Toast 7, 8, and 10. The burners I have are Pioneer 118L . Anyone else seen this? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best wireless card for a G5?
On May 24, 2012, at 11:06 PM, a1 wrote: > So I ended up getting a dual 1.8 G5, 2 gigs of ram [4x512] and a 500gb > hard drive. There looks like 4 open ram slots. I found this G5 locally > and for only $60, so my upgrade problems are solved for the moment. > > G5 came with no Airport card or antenna, one of the reasons for the > low price. A while back I recall reading a suggestion that it might be > better and faster to install a pci wirless card instead of Airport. > Anyone have suggestions on a specific card for a good price? > This is the card I have in my G5 Dual 2.7 it is seen as an AirPort card and no software required. You may find one a little cheaper. http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-Wireless-WiFi-Card-Mac-G3-G4-G5-Airport-802-11-b-g-/220603457124?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item335cfd9e64 John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 STUTTERED VIDEO
On May 17, 2012, at 6:44 AM, JohnV wrote: Where should I look for solving the unwatchable jerky video on this G5? DVD"s work fine but anything coming in from youtube is a stuttering jerky mess. Hardware Overview: Machine Name: Power Mac G5 Machine Model: PowerMac7,3 CPU Type: PowerPC G5 (2.2) Number Of CPUs:2 CPU Speed: 1.8 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU):512 KB Memory:2 GB Bus Speed: 900 MHz Boot ROM Version: 5.1.8f7 What do you have for an ISP DSL, Cable or other. Your G5 is kinda slow to watch You Tubes smoothly. My Dual 2.7 with Time Warner RR Turbo is just bearable. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: reliable, robust USB hub...
On May 16, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On May 16, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Jeff Bequette wrote: > >> Following this conversation, can hub failure affect the computer in other >> areas? I've an older Belkin stacker (F5U101) that may be going bad. had to >> pull my Radioshark attachment out (after 3 plus years of working) due to >> interference on the recording. when I plugged it (Radioshark) into the >> front of the G5 it worked fine. The dongle for the wireless mouse is still >> working. > > Yes, because the Radioshark is transmitting it'a data through that USB port. > In my case drives were just randomly dropping off, or I'd plug something in > and everything on the hub would just fall off giving me lots of 'The disk was > not ejected properly' errors. Not a good thing when I'm using it to pull data > from a possibly failing drive... > > (and these are powered drives, not bus-powered) > I get drop off some times directly plugged into the front of my "Stanley Steamer" (G5 Dual 2.7). It some times is the external enclosure and gives a logic board scare too:-), So be sure it's the hub. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PM G4: Old CPU back in, no boot
On May 15, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 14-05-2012 15:58, Valter Prahlad ha scritto: Today I took out the upgrade CPU, and I put back in the old, original Apple 667 MHz CPU (I applied thermal grease, connected the CPU fan wire, pressed the PMU switch). BTW, does anyone know if the CPU fan wire (in the original PM G4 DA 667 MHz) goes to a connector on the processor card? I wonder if it goes connected to a place on the motherboard instead, but I could not find a suitable connector there. (I was wondering if the no boot could be related to the CPU fan not spinning) Have you checked the socket for any deformed pins? also the processor usually takes a little to a lot of force to seat it. I would spray the connection with a residue free contact wash first. Also reseat the RAM John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can someone reccomend a decent, reliable, robust USB hub...
On May 14, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: I'm getting tired of these Belkin pieces of trash crapping out on me. Definitely needs to be a powered one. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs This is the best one in my book, not cheap but never a problem, I have a lot of hubs but these are the favorites. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cyberpower-CPH720P-720P-7-Port-USB-2-0-Hub-/260916479790?pt=COMP_EN_Hubs&hash=item3cbfd5872e John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Compatible 2TB hard disk for Powermac G5 Quad Core
On May 14, 2012, at 5:21 PM, David W. Morris wrote: > > On May 14, 2012, at 4:00 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > >> I'm partial to the Hitachi 2TB drives glad to see the price coming back >> down:-) , I have 5 of them in my G5 dual 2.7 and never a problem, I have had >> to warranty a couple of Seagate drives. I also have 4 Hitachi's in a Mac >> pro 2.66 quad. >> >> >> John Carmonne >> Yorba Linda CA >> 92886 USA >> MacBook Pro i7 > > How do you fit and connect 5 2tb SATA drives inside a G5 PowerMac? > Sonnet makes a 3 HDD drive kit name G5 Jive that holds 3 SATA drives in the empty forward bay just behind the front grill. Along with a 3 or 4 port internal SATA PCI-X card. This is a real nice setup in that it gets rid of a lot of external cables. This machine is 10TB. I also have an OWC 4 bay RAID box to keep some extra things up to date. http://www.firmtek.com/seritek/seritek-1v4/ http://www.adorama.com/SNTENCG53HD.html https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/36728487/1/G5%20Sonnet%20Jive?h=7ca8f7 John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Compatible 2TB hard disk for Powermac G5 Quad Core
On May 14, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Interocetor wrote: > Hello everyone > > I wanted to report that I successfully installed a 2TB Hitachi > Deskstar internal hard disk in the second drive bay of my Powermac G5 > Quad Core. My machine was manufactured in October, 2005. > > The new drive is a SATA 3 drive, but I had no issues -- no > configuration via jumpers of anything else needed to make it work with > the G5's SATA 1 interface. I know compatibility between the newer > SATA 3 drives from some manufacturers has been an issue for users on > at least some Powermac G5's. No problem for this particular Hitachi > drive on my system. It is available from Amazon for $129. Here is > the detailed model info: > > Hitachi Deskstar 3.5" 2TB 7200RPM SATA III 32MB Cache Internal Hard > Drive 0S02861 > > Installation went without a hitch. After I installed it and powered > my machine back up, OS X (Leopard) asked me if I wanted to initialize > it and then popped me into Disk Utility, where I set it up as one > partition. No problem there either. > > Powermac still lives, and I am keeping mine for as long as I can. I'm partial to the Hitachi 2TB drives glad to see the price coming back down:-) , I have 5 of them in my G5 dual 2.7 and never a problem, I have had to warranty a couple of Seagate drives. I also have 4 Hitachi's in a Mac pro 2.66 quad. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
On May 2, 2012, at 9:52 AM, James Morgan wrote: I have two MDD G4's running OS 10.4.11. Does anyone know if these computers will successfully run OS 10.5? Thanks for your help. James K Morgan They will run 10.5.8. 867MHz processor is the slowest recommended speed for 10.5. the faster the better. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Skype
On Apr 30, 2012, at 9:12 AM, David W. Morris wrote: Your Skype will barley work OK on that 1.67 PB plus Tiger 10.4.11 is much faster than 10.5.8 for Skype. Be sure nothing else is running. Your ISP is fast enough. The Intel machines a much better for this, Thanks for the answer, but Skype works better than you think on my 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook. The incoming video is smooth and clear from the person I am calling, but on their end of the call, my video works for a little while, then it freezes. If I turn off sending my video to them and then restart it. my video will usually start playing again for another short while, then freeze again. I will try it from my dual 2.7GHz G5 soon. That should confirm if it is the computer, or the ISP provider, as the dual 2.7GHz G5 should be more than fast enough to run Skype. \ My Dual 2.7 does well on 10.5.8 for Skype. It may be on their end if they have a slow ISP. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Skype
On Apr 30, 2012, at 12:59 AM, David W. Morris wrote: I downloaded the last version of Skype that runs on the G4 & G5 Mac models, but I am wondering if my 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook w/2gb RAM is fast enough to run it with both incoming and outgoing video turned on? At first I suspected my shared cable TV Internet service provider might be to blame for my outgoing video stream freezing on the other person's screen, but when I test my Internet speed, I regularly see 5.5 to 7 Mbits/sec download speed and 2.3 Mbits/sec upload speed. I am using a (new to me) FireWire 400 iSight webcam, which appears to be working perfectly, so now I am wondering, is it my G4 PowerBook that is too slow, or is it the upload speed of my ISP? What do the rest of you think? Is if my ISP, or my G4 PowerBook? I don't know if I can get faster upload speed from my ISP by switching to a more expensive Internet package, or if there are any DSL companies where I live that could equal, or surpass the speed of my current cable TV ISP plan, as I don't live in a big city with lots of different companies that are ISP's and I doubt we have any fiber optic cables within 100 miles of where I live. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Your Skype will barley work OK on that 1.67 PB plus Tiger 10.4.11 is much faster than 10.5.8 for Skype. Be sure nothing else is running. Your ISP is fast enough. The Intel machines a much better for this, John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting OS9.1 onto MDD
On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Ken Daggett wrote: > > On 29 Apr 2012, at 21:30:28 PDT, Deiniol ap Deiniol wrote: > >> The OS9 disc is a retail version AFAIK. I also tried my iMac DV OS9 >> disc, out of curiosity (desperation!?) - that again tells me I have >> OS9 installedwhen I tried from Tiger >> am I missing something obvious here? > --- > I believe that the MDD requires a "special" version of OS9 (OS 9.2.2) that > shipped with the machine. There ways around this that involve the boot ROM. > > Ken > That boot ROM would be "Mac OS CPU Software 5.9". .Pity Apple never put this on an install disc, only on the original disc'c for the MDD's. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Low Power G5
On Apr 26, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: >>> My G5 Dual 2.7 idles at 310 Watts plus the AC required to >>> keep the room inhabitable >> >> Are you the one who bought x86 mac and realized it is just "another >> PC", isn't you? >> My G5 Quad (2xDual core) 2.5 G5 eats less than 10 watts on idle. And I >> measured it via UPS it is plugged into. > > Is that idle or sleep? I believe it for sleep, but not for idle. Even with a > CPU on doze, in reduced power, my G5 isn't consuming any less than 150W > (measured both on UPS and with a Kill-A-Watt). > I use a Kill-A-watt also and my 2.7 is 34 Watts off, just plugged into the wall. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Low Power G5
On Apr 26, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Douglas Mencken wrote: My G5 Dual 2.7 idles at 310 Watts plus the AC required to keep the room inhabitable Are you the one who bought x86 mac and realized it is just "another PC", isn't you? My G5 Quad (2xDual core) 2.5 G5 eats less than 10 watts on idle. And I measured it via UPS it is plugged into. How you did your measurements? What does it use when you boot it?? John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Low Power G5
On Apr 23, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Douglas Mencken wrote: about trying to shoehorn my future G5 into a Mac Pro case Well, Mac Pros are already "in the case of Power Mac G5", slightly modified (2 optical drives). Anyway, if you do want "Low Power" PowerPC ;), I'd recommend getting Late 2005 Power Mac G5 model and under-clocking it to, say, 1.2GHz (it would be half, i.e. 0.6GHz, in "normal use" mode). This would give you room temperature of your CPUs. If power usage is a real issue and PPC apps are needed then a Power Mac is the way to go. My G5 Dual 2.7 idles at 310 Watts plus the AC required to keep the room inhabitable, where as my Mac Pro is 95 Watts, If running Leopard or Snow Leopard with Rosetta your PPC apps will run. But Lion kills Rosetta. :-( John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Tiger/Classic on dual G4/5
On Apr 22, 2012, at 3:39 PM, geraldcornish wrote: > Hi all, > > Current setup is Pismo 500MHz/1GB Ram/100GB HDD Tiger 10.4.11 & OS 9.2.2 > Intention is to upgrade to Dual G4/G5 but keeping Tiger/Classic. > > My better half needs to use Pagemaker in classic while using OSX > simultaneously. > > Pagemaker uses up all the spare cpu cycles and slows down all other programs, > and I assume this would still be the case with a faster Mac. > > My question is - if we move to a dual G4/G5 how does Tiger handle the two > cpus? > > Will it assign classic/pagemaker to one cpu only, leaving the other cpu to do > any OSX work needed? > > This would be ideal for us if one cpu is kept free of the Pagemaker loading. > > TIA > > Ged G4 PM up to Dual 1.25 F/W 400 will boot both 9.2.2 and 10.4.11 where G5 PM will not boot OS9..2.2 but will run Classic along with Tiger. Ive done it with Pagemaker 7. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Duplicate files remove
On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:58 PM, John Callahan wrote: > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Barry Levine wrote: > >> Haven't used it. >> >> I have used DupFinder in OS9, was pretty easy to use; there's an OSX version >> also IIRC >> > > > Any info concerning duplicate picture removal? If this is considered a hijack > please disregard and delete. > Thank you No hikjack AFAIC. I got this "Duplicate Annihilator" $7.00. It works very well, very slow on large librarys but gets it done in a real clean and easy way, http://download.cnet.com/Duplicate-Annihilator/3000-2192_4-10509161.html John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Duplicate files remove
On Apr 18, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Barry Levine wrote: > >> I have a G5 PM with 5 2TB drives that share files like DVD's, music folders, >> emails, CAD/CAM files and such. I have stuff scattered all over this machine >> plus I have others with the same condition. I saw a program today called >> Gemini that is said to get rid of the dups. I know there are a lot of >> applications that do it but all I've tried seem way to complicated and vague >> for me. This one looks easy I think? Has any one had experience with this >> Gemini tool? >> >> http://www.cultofmac.com/161252/slick-gemini-app-finds-duplicate-files-on-your >> -mac-in-style/ >> >> John Carmonne >> Yorba Linda CA >> 92886 USA >> MacBook Pro i7 >> > Haven't used it. > > I have used DupFinder in OS9, was pretty easy to use; there's an OSX version > also IIRC > > Barry Well I just noticed it's 10.7 only so if I use it I'll have to do it over the LAN cause I only have one Lion system that I never use. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Duplicate files remove
I have a G5 PM with 5 2TB drives that share files like DVD's, music folders, emails, CAD/CAM files and such. I have stuff scattered all over this machine plus I have others with the same condition. I saw a program today called Gemini that is said to get rid of the dups. I know there are a lot of applications that do it but all I've tried seem way to complicated and vague for me. This one looks easy I think? Has any one had experience with this Gemini tool? http://www.cultofmac.com/161252/slick-gemini-app-finds-duplicate-files-on-your-mac-in-style/ John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: QuadG5 CPU A Runs Hot
On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: As I stated the ambient is also very important here, plus never crowd the back of one of the "Stanley Steamers" (water pumpers) too lose to a wall they need breathing room. Good point. Mine used to be crammed into a corner, but in my new house I have it pointing into the middle of the room so it can ventilate freely. Ambient in the room varies between 65 and 80 F, depending on the time of year. My temps run about 65 to 75 most of the time. We had a heat wave two years back and the temps in the condo got to 115 F. That made it leak. It caused me to repair and refill my Delphi LCS and disassemble the power supply to neutralize the coolant I also had all the power supply pieces re-plated, Two months later I installed a Panasonic unit and sold the Delphi, Also at idle mine draws 250 Watts, when burning 2 or more DVD's at a time I'm at 550 watts. Holy power draw, Batman! My quad is somewhere between 170 and 250W, but it is usually in Reduced mode, and I only crank it up when I'm compiling stuff. Well my Dual 2.7 power draw may be due to the 5 2TB internal HDD's , they keep the fans busy, plus 2 2TB externals and a 9800 Pro graphics card. My Panasonic LCS has two pumps also. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: QuadG5 CPU A Runs Hot
On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Michael Baudais wrote: I ran the thermal calibration - it failed saying the CPUs (both of them) have exceeded the maximum temperature. I question the reliability of the ASD's reports, with the Duals the ASD 2.5.7 and 2.5.8 will give different out comes on the tests a lot of times the 2.5.8 will almost always fail where the 2.5.7 most times tells you you don't need to calibrate. The Quad uses ASD 2.6.3 and may also give bad info. I do know however that too much paste on the die's will make them over heat. The machine is totally clean - no liquid, no stains, no residue anywhere. The seals seem solid. I don't believe that it's been "leaking" as in dripping out. Could it evaporate or change its properties such that it doesn't cool as well? It can evaporate if there is an indication of any corrosion. Could the pump say it's spinning but it really isn't pumping well (broken impeller blades or something like that)? That's possible, I remember seeing the fluid replacement blogs as well - I probably have links to those somewhere. But I remember them all being the Delphi systems. Nobody seems to have had the need to do the Panasonic ones. I don't see why the basic method wouldn't work for the Panasonic. however I've never seen a Panasonic give any problem. http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/G5_CoolantLeak_Repair/G5_CoolantLeak_Repair_p1.html#storytop John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: QuadG5 CPU A Runs Hot
On Apr 11, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: >>> CPU A is indeed normally hotter than CPU B. The typical differential >>> is >>> around 10 degrees Centigrade, at least on the units I've seen, but not >>> significantly higher than that. >> >> My Dual 2.7 with either the Delphi or Panasonic LCS at idle is about >> 155 F equally between A and B. However they will vary 30 F between >> CPU's and top temps at 185 to 200 when loaded. > > That seems really high, but I've never used a dual 2.7, so maybe their > higher clock speed == more heat. > As I stated the ambient is also very important here, plus never crowd the back of one of the "Stanley Steamers" (water pumpers) too lose to a wall they need breathing room. Apple even states the temp of 190 to 200 F is OK, but remember that's not 24/7. Also at idle mine draws 250 Watts, when burning 2 or more DVD's at a time I'm at 550 watts. The Quads had two Delphi units, one with a single pump and a dual pump, the duals did have some problems. I've only seen one Panasonic for the Quad. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: QuadG5 CPU A Runs Hot
On Apr 11, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Baudais Michael wrote: Hmmm, maybe I just noticed it after that cleaning because I was checking to see if the temperature dropped... Other notes: - both pumps are running at 2436 rpm right now - Temps are 45.6, 45.3, 33.6, 32.6 C - Fans are at 2162, 2162 (CPU Exhaust) - I have not run thermal calibration - I have the installer, but I don't have a blank external drive I can sacrifice at the moment. Has anyone figured out how to use these tools with a disk image or something? You can do it with a USB thumb drive - The temps have risen slowly over the years since 2005 - I started running it full-time on reduced power because I had a couple of thermal shutdown events. This was about a year after replacing the thermal grease. Might be time for another re-greasing? The original grease was dry and cracked, so re-doing it was a good idea at the time, but maybe I didn't get good stuff... - OK, I started an mp4 conversion, and switched to Automatic in Energy Saver Options - after 30s with all 4 CPUs around 90% the stats are: - both pumps are running at 3600 rpm - Temps are 92.6, 90.9, 42.8, 41.0 - Fans are at 3200 Yeah, 90C is too high, so I quickly dropped it back to reduced performance before it shut down. Still encoding, but temps are now 61.8, 61.3, 41.3, 39.3. That temp 198 F, is not too high in my experience when the machine is loaded, plus the ambient temp is another very important factor. 65 F is best. So 50C sounds like too high a difference, right? Is it possible to have no leak in the cooling system of a CPU, but have some kind of blockage in the cooling system? Did you see any coloration in the floor of the inner case or dampness on the diaper under the CPU? I still need to try the power-off test to get the initial CPU temp diff. But given how quickly the temp changes, I doubt I can get the software started quickly enough to see the initial temp. It takes a minute or so to get logged in... If anyone is interested, I uploaded some photos of the thermal grease work to flickr at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mbaudais01/sets/72157629428579008/ (Haven't really used flickr much so let me know if that isn't visible to you) Thanks, Mike John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: QuadG5 CPU A Runs Hot
On Apr 11, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Wouldn't it make sense for CPU A to be hotter than CPU B? I don't know much about hardware, but if Mac OS X (or any PowerPC OS acutally) uses threading, isn't it possible that frequently used threads are allocated to CPU A? Or, maybe more sensible, CPU A just happens to get most threads? CPU A is indeed normally hotter than CPU B. The typical differential is around 10 degrees Centigrade, at least on the units I've seen, but not significantly higher than that. My Dual 2.7 with either the Delphi or Panasonic LCS at idle is about 155 F equally between A and B. However they will vary 30 F between CPU's and top temps at 185 to 200 when loaded. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: QuadG5 CPU A Runs Hot
On Apr 10, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Baudais Michael wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for some ideas on how to address a problem with my Quad G5 (late > 2005). Here's the sequence of events: > > 1) I took my QuadG5 out to the garage one nice warm Saturday and used > compressed air to blow out all the dust. Yes, this may have been a bad > idea... > 2) Since then, CPU A has consistently run 10-20 degrees Celsius hotter than > CPU B. Over time, both CPU temps started to climb. > 3) I removed the CPUs and cooling systems, and replaced the thermal paste on > the CPUs. That helped dramatically - both CPUs dropped 20C. But, A is still > hotter than B by the same amount. > 4) I checked the cooling system thoroughly - no leaks evident. > 5) For the last year I've been running in reduced power mode. Which isn't > too bad performance-wise, but I'd love to get my full performance back. > > I've advertised on Kijiji for a replacement CPU board with no luck. > > Any ideas on what to look at next? > > Thanks, > > Mike The LCS on the G5 Quad has two pumps It may be a pump failure, they're known for that. Do you have Hardware Monitor? it shows the pump RPM's. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: advice on getting a dual G5`
On Apr 9, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Jackie wrote: > I'm looking to upgrade to a dual G5 in the near future. I do a little > graphic design (Quark 6.0 and Photoshop 4.0), need access to classic. > I don't do any gaming. I've seen comments made about staying away > from liquid cooled models (2.5 DP PCIx model 9457 and 2.7 DP PCI-x > model 9749). Are there others? Can anyone make a recommendation? > > Thanks, > Jackie > Easton, PA > The PM G5 Dual 2.3 would be your best choice if you want to stay away from the LCS's, I have have a Dual 2.7 that I upgraded to a Panasonic dual pump LCS that has been leak proof,:-) http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/specs/powermac_g5_dual_2.3.html John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
