Re: IS the world about to change ?
On Oct 20, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Fluxstringer wrote: Lion ? Will Lion be compatible with PPC G5? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell
On Oct 24, 2010, at 4:33 AM, James Therrault wrote: > > On Oct 24, 2010, at 4:05 AM, Scotty wrote: > >> Does anyone know what the max internal HDD size is for a G3 Clamshell >> 366 mhz/FW400? I can't seem to find an answer online. > I belive it's 128 GB I have a 100 in my Wallstreet 300. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell
On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Peter Haas wrote: > > On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:06 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: > >> I have followed them on ebay for yrs and never have seen one with higher >> then 120G... > > 120 GB was the largest physical drive made, although the software supports a > drive up to 131,072 MB (128 GB). > I have an ATA/IDE 160 GB in a TiBook 500 I use speed tools to over come the 128 GB limit. There are some open firmware commands that are supposed to it it but I was never able to make that method work for me :-) http://www.speedtools.com/ATA6.html John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell
On Oct 24, 2010, at 10:22 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: > Hey John, > Can it be done on a Clamshell??? > > All I have for a G3 to try it on is a Wally 300 or a Wally G4 500 I'll give it a shot next week. A Clamshell ain't no fun to put a HDD in just to test. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 not taking keyboard input
On Oct 25, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Nestamicky wrote: > This machine is the 2 Ghz DP version, 2005. > > It will chime and boot to the internal HD. > > I lost the password so can't login. > > I then try with the install DVD to reset the password. > > It will not take any keyboard input combination to reset NVRAM, boot off > DVD---nothing. > > The keyboard works because when I tried some password input it prints on > screen. > > I took the HD out, put it back in and on an SATA channel it did not like. It > did not boot. > > I changed it and it booted but this time without anything on screen. So I > messed things up, apparently, as it used to boot to login screen before. > > So I removed and cleaned the tip of the video card. No luck. > > I must also mention that I've removed RAM, battery, etc, to see if it's > locked with firmware that's preventing the keyboard input at boot, but no > luck. I think that's the real problem herenot responding to keyboard > input during boot. > > Any help will be appreciated. > > Did you try all the USB ports? When you had it apart did you hold the CUDA switch down for 15 secs? If that doesn't help reseat the processors, then try to boot with an ASD DVD. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 power supply problems
On Oct 25, 2010, at 12:55 PM, schaf...@comcast.net wrote: > I have a late G5 2.3 dual-core Power Mac that has run 24/7 since I bought it > new in December 2005. The only enhancement it received was a 2nd 250 GB HDD > and 4 GB of RAM. A month or 2 ago it died instantly (there was a gunshot > like "pop", the screen went black and the power light was out 2 seconds later > when I looked, and the ensuing stench made me not try a restart). My meager > training screamed "power supply", but that's just my uneducated guess. > Googling revealed a fault in my power supply that was covered by Apple until > January 2010, and a call to Apple Care resulted in an "I'm sorry" > determination of coverage. Apparently the purchase of $7500 of Apple > products (w/o Apple Care purchases) in the last 8 years doesn't qualify me > for any "special" consideration. OK. My "local" (4 hr return trip) Apple > Store was unwilling to let me discuss anything with a "genius" and just > wanted me to bring it in. The closest Apple certified repair center (about > the same distance) quoted a flat labor fee of $95 and a "new" Apple part cost > of $400(!?). A relative Apple tech who works for a WA State university said > an exchange from Apple would be $150, so I presume this would be a > refurbished unit. > > My questions to anyone out there are: > 1. Has anyone else with the latest 1000 watt power supply had a failure on > the G5 PM? > 2. If this power supply has failed (seems likely to me), what are the odds > that logic board, drives, memory, etc are OK? I used an external FW drive > and it works fine w/my G4 PM (saved my bacon!!). > 3. Anyone have an opinion, for my purposes, whether I'd be better served by > an Apple store or a cooperative 3rd party? > > I want my beloved child back! Any help/advice from those who know better > than I would be MOST appreciated! 8^) > > TIA > > - Peter > > G5 2.3 dual-core, 4 GB RAM, 20" Acer LCD, 250 x2 HDD running SoftRaid > (mirror) running Tiger 10.4.11. > G4 MDD 1.0 dual "wind tunnel", 320+80+80 HDD running Tiger 10.4.11. > I and some friends of mine have trusted our heavy lifting to Brian at DT&T Service in Fremont CA for a couple of years, They're honest and very fair priced plus fast turn around with a warranty. I always get my money's worth and extra. http://www.dttservice.com/services.html John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 not taking keyboard input
On Oct 26, 2010, at 6:27 AM, Nestamicky wrote: > On 26/10/10 7:24 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: >> Murphy's law. It could be that the monitor is at fault. And that this fault >> has nothing to do with the keyboard/password issue of yours. It is rare, but >> such things happen – sometimes when you expect it least. >> >> Have you checked the monitor with another computer? >> >> I had it once that the connector of the graphics card was unfirm – or was it >> the one on the VGA cable? Don't remember, but it worked with one computer, >> whereas it didn't with the other. Only this one monitor. > The original post notes it used to boot to the login screen until I plugged > the HD in a SATA Channel on which it won't work. > The monitor works, it's a dual input monitor, and the Linux on the VGA works. > I may swap the video card, but I'm not convinced it has anything to do with > it. Try to boot with the air deflector off the machine you may have a ambient sensor gone bad. Other wise a logic board may be in order John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA carmo...@aol.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Daisy-chain-ing
On Oct 29, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: > Quick question > Can I daisy chain fw400 & fw800 devices together? I have a fw800 hard disk > that plugs into the mac via fw800 and it's got a fw400 on the back of it that > I'd like to plug my external optical drive into it that's only got fw400? I'm > thinking this is fine but > > > Jeff Engle > Kamiah, Idaho > 83536 > That's how one of my setups is I don't think I've seen a FW800 on an optical anyway. I have an external WD with two FW880 ports and I use a 800/400 cable. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Kernel panics on installing 10.4.11 on Powermac G4
On Oct 30, 2010, at 2:21 PM, smac0031 wrote: > I'm getting a kernel panic after installing 10.4.11 on a G4 tower. > After that it won't reboot. I'm not sure which model it is except that > it has 100Mhz bus and it has 832mb of ram. Everything seemed to be > going fine until 10.4.11. > I started out putting OS9 on it and then OSX then it kernel panicked > on me. > Would it be possible that the rom has not been upgraded? > The firmware update is probably not installed I can send it off list if you want. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Most reliable G4 tower model , least reliable
My PM G4 MDD Dual 1.25 has everything I will ever need in a PPC machine. This box runs every day mostly ripping and burning, great for burning two at a time in the time of one. I've never had a component go out yet except a PRAM battery and HHD that Seagate replaced for free. All I think is needed is to keep them free of dirt and dust buildup. 2GB RAM ATI Radeon 9000 Pro card with a 20" Cinema display Booting OS 9.2.2, 10.4.11, 10.5.8. 2 Pioneer 118L optical drives 4 Seagate 500 GB HDD's GeeThree Stealth serial port F/W 400 2 eSATA ports. 4 USB 2.0 ports AirPort I have a PM G5 that bit the dust a couple of weeks ago and I'm in the process of rebuilding the processor heat sink (liquid cooled) it's only 4 years old but the MDD just keeps truckin'. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Kernel panics on installing 10.4.11 on Powermac G4
On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:38 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:10 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: > >> If this is the first version of OS neXt for the machine it's very likely >> that the ROM needs the upgrade. > > On Oct 30, 2010, at 6:32 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > >> The firmware update is probably not installed I can send it off list if you >> want. > > I'm not an expert on these G4's, but I was pretty certain the OS X installer > disc has a system check that prohibits installation of OS X if the firmware > isn't properly upgraded? Unless he transfered or cloned a System from another > computer it would seem unlikely to be a firmware issue unless I'm wrong about > the installer firmware check? > If I remember correctly the read me on the Tiger disk says to install the firmware 4.1.9 booted in OS9 before installing Tiger. but I may be wrong also. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead Drive?
On Oct 31, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Gottick International wrote: > No idea what you are talking about. Please tell me. > >> Jumper issue? >> On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: The iMac G5's are sATA so the jumpers are not an issue here. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead Drive?
On Oct 31, 2010, at 5:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: > Folks, > > Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had > "issues". For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating > the damned thing. And refuses to partion it. Disc Warrior does not > even "see" the new drive. What can be wrong? The machine has a new > battery and from what I can make out the drive and the fans start ok, > the screen works. > > Anders > Is it possible you have a bad or incomplete connection I would also check to see if the iMac G5 has a SMU you can reset?? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Webcam for G4 running Mac OS X 10.5.8
On Nov 2, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Nov 2, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: > >> Can anyone recommend webcams for a Digital Audio Dual 533 G4 running 10.5.8? >> >> FW? >> USB2? > I have several Cameras iSight FW and a USB iMage also a couple of Logitech USB cams. The iSight FW camera is hands down the best You can get them on eBay for less than a top of the line Logitech and the iSight will work much better. However IMO in your G4 533 the performance on Skype or iChat will be a challenge the 533 is way slow for any live cam I've seen. The slowest machine I use with a web cam is a Dual 1.25 MDD. But that's just me. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thermal Compound Question
On Nov 2, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Hi all, quick question here, I'm looking to buy some thermal compound, and am wondering if all is the same? Or if there is a better brand I should buy. I'm just looking on ebay, and the stuff is cheap. Just wondering, is there varying qualities? Or is it all the same stuff. Just to be clear, I'm looking for the grey stuff you put on a processor to help transfer heat to the heat sink. Thanks! -Jonas Well Joanas I just happen to be applying some right now. There seem to be many brands and all claim to be the do all end all product I have 3 different ones and I can't say I've noticed a real difference. Some claim to have silver dust which sounds good and expensive and also you would think a very good thermal conductor and then I have a tube of a diamond dust product that costs a couple of bucks more, I really don't understand diamond being a thermal conductor but maybe so, and then I have a tube of a white paste that a Apple Depot in Texas uses. They all seem to do the job if applied properly, be real clean and just a very thin coat is all that's needed. Too much will defeat the purpose:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thermal Compound Question
Anyway, the thermal paste which includes diamonds, either natural or manufactured, is a superior product, which simply uses the gem's inherent properties to conduct heat better than competitive products. Still, for all but the most demanding application, white silicone grease is probably good enough. Well that's good to know because Fry's keeps the diamond product in stock and I'm getting low on it so no confusion next time to buy. I have noticed that Apple used a thick paste on the G4 PowerBooks, I assume this is because the possible flexing and ambient temperature changes of the components could break the thermal contact, therefore I use just a touch more on them. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 Dual processors not bad?
I have a PM G5 Dual 2.7 that I just replaced the heat sink on. It had leaked and I was able to catch it before it did any real damage. After I did the installation I booted ASD 2.5.8 and the Calibration page said that calibration wasn't needed. Also I have "Hardware Monitor and all the temps and pump RPM's are correct. But just for laughs I went back and ran the ASD fan calibration to see what it would say and to my surprise it said that I need to replace both processors which I'm thinking this is not correct because every thing seems to be working properly, the fans sound like they're cycling correctly and all the other tests pass. Can this be because the heat sink is not the original and the report is false? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thermal Compound Question
On Nov 4, 2010, at 8:09 AM, ah...clem wrote: On Nov 4, 12:16 am, "Tina K." wrote: That might not be the case, I do remember some Apple model being manufactured with too much thermal paste by mistake, but I don't remember which model it was. that was clearly a manufacturing mistake. i had a PB G4 1.67 hi-res model, and the processor burned out. when i disassembled it, i discovered that there were gobs and gobs of the thermal paste. WAY too much, and that undoubtedly contributed to the failure. i scraped chunks off the heatsink and when i replaced the mobo i used the proper amount, and it is still going strong. I have found this thicker blue paste on just about all the G4 PowerBooks and DVI model Titanium Powerbooks, pretty hard to clean off also, In fact most of the heat sinks are covered completely with the paste beyond the processor. It seems all the Apple factory assembled units have a pretty thick paste compared to the compounds most of us buy and use. Plus in a lot of cases the fans will usually let you know if your paste job is bad, it's an indication I forgot again to apply it :-) The desktops on the other hand are different in the type and amount of paste used so I think there must be some reason for this leading me to believe that ambient expansion and flexibility are an issue in keeping a good contact with the processor and heat sink, hence the spring loading on the desktop models that would be impractical on the PowerBooks. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thermal Compound Question
On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Peter Haas wrote: On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Albert Carter wrote: I wouldn't necessary recommend using Pin-Sol or Water to clean a processor. After wiping away the old paste with alcohol 99%. I use a "Contact Cleaner and Wash" spray product from Fry's Electronics,It cleans and dries fast with no residue. The Pin-Sol sounds like an OK product especially on the PB units with the thicker and stickier pastes, some of that stuff is hard to get off. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Blueberry iMac
On Nov 5, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 5, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: I have just locked on to a Blueberry iMac with Blueberry keyboard and Blueberry puck mouse. How difficult is it to upgrade these? It looks like a sealed unit. Do I need special tools? Thanks, Dennis Not too hard to open up I can send a instruction file off-list if you want. A Logitech optical mouse with scroll wheel is good and a 7200 RPM HDD with 2 512 MB sticks of RAM is also something worth while and if you really want to go nuts There is a serial port card made back in the day that is rare but keeps those legacy printers going, it's made by GeeThree called Stealth Serial card. Look around for a DVD ROM and an AirPort card also don't forget about the ability to run OS 8.6, OS 9.2.2 and Tiger all on the same machine. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA Sent from my Wally 10.4.11 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: More Strange Stuff On A G5 iMac
On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:59 AM, AndersFager wrote: > I'm trying to get this iMac G5 to start from an installer disc in > order to format the new drive. And now I have a black screen with a > little blinking white square in the upper left corner. It feels like > the damned thing has gone Win 3.0 on me. What can be done in this > enviroment? > Did you reseat the RAM? Do you get a beep sound at startup? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Update on Kernel Panics on G4
On Nov 7, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: > On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: >> >> On Nov 7, 2010, at 1:54 PM, smac0031 wrote: >>> >>> I have a hardware test CD that came with my digital audio G4 and tried >>> to run it on this computer but it wouldn't go. Oh well. >> >> I think you can find the AHT for your specific computer on Apple's Support >> site. Maybe someone can point you to it, and how to make a CD for its use. >> >> Congrats on updating the ROM. > > Here's a link to some of the Image files: > http://www.info.apple.com/support/aht.html > > The AHT's that I've dealt with will not work on a machine that has had a processor change from the original. This may be the problem. Even though the AHT is designated to check more than one model in the series of Mac's. I have a G4 MDD that I upgraded the Dual 1.0 GB to Dual 1.25 and the AHT's don't work, I've had the exact same result on the TiBooks and Cubes. This leads me to think there must be a ROM some where on the machine that knows the serial number. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Shutdown issues
On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Clark Martin wrote: > > On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:49 PM, DLC wrote: > >> Greetings all, >> I have two G5 towers in our lab (1.8GHz DP-late 2004 models) running >> 10.5.8. They have both suddenly acquired the habit of not wanting to >> shut down. When instructed, the Desktop dismounts, the Dock "folds >> down" and then they just sit there. A force shutdown is what needs to >> be done at that moment. All other operations are fine. >> I've zapped PRAM and NVRAM, booted single-user, and restored disk >> permissions. >> I've looked on the Apple support site for related articles with no >> success; perhaps someone knows of one that addresses this issue? Yes, >> there is one PCI card in each unit (USB expansion card), but they've >> been there for a couple years with no issues. >> Thanks for any thoughts or possible solutions. >> > I would run DiskWarrior on it, some of my iMac G3's like to do this once in a while. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Trying to bring a partition back to life
On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:29 PM, MaGioZal wrote: Hi, I am currently running Mac OS 9 and 10.4 on a Beige G3 PowerMac, and recently the biggest, non-booting partition which contained alot of softwares and data (from which I didn't make backup...:-/) just died down after some forced shutdowns. I've tried 3 different tools of disk recovery, but I've got no results, as can be seen on the gallery: <http://www.facebook.com/album.php? aid=242341&id=600905786&l=1d59b51309> (the captions are in that strange language called Portuguese, but the screenshots are in English. ;-)) Well, the big quetion is: qaht can I do now to rescue this partition? Is there any free alternative or just DiskWarrior can help? Best regards, DiskWarrior would be my first choice, I've also used Data Rescue 3 demo for a small volume. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From my Wally G4 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Trying to bring a partition back to life
On Nov 10, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Nov 10, 2010, at 12:00 AM, onelucent wrote: Actually, in OS 9, I have had good luck with Disk Doctor. It may take multiple runs, each time getting a little further. I may skip Media Check so it concentrates on the Disk Directory. Usually, the hardest thing is to capture the partition, so don't give up. Often, Norton will capture (i.e. mount) a partition that Disk First Aid can't. Yes, Disk Warrior is good, best run from the CD itself, if possible. Lastly, for OS 9, you still have some mounting utilities. Again, they often capture a partition that Disk First Aid can't in my experience. Good luck. If you use an OS 9 Utility on a disk partitioned and maintained by OS X, I believe it could easily mess things up badly for OS X. Guru's advice needed ... Never run Norton Disk Doctor on a drive that has OSX on it, the damage will probably be beyond repair. But Data Rescue 3 probably can get the info off, then wipe the HDD and restore. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Dual processors not bad?
On Nov 12, 2010, at 10:43 AM, John Carmonne wrote: > I have a PM G5 Dual 2.7 that I just replaced the heat sink on. It had leaked > and I was able to catch it before it did any real damage. > After I did the installation I booted ASD 2.5.8 and the Calibration page said > that calibration wasn't needed. The "OS" and "OF" passed. Also I have > "Hardware Monitor and all the temps and pump RPM's are correct. > > But just for laughs I went back and ran the ASD fan calibration to see what > it would say and to my surprise it said that I need to replace both > processors which I'm thinking this is not correct because every thing seems > to be working properly, the fans sound like they're cycling correctly and all > the other tests pass. Can this be because the heat sink is not the original > and the report is false? > Update I got ASD 2.5.7 and upon booting and selecting the Thermal calibration is says calibration not needed. And It will not allow the initiation of the calibration operation, however the ASD 2.5.8 says not needed but will let me try anyway. So I think that the 2.5.8 may produce a false reading if calibration is not needed. And again the "OS" and "OF" passed all two hours of it :-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Firmware updates?
Hi All Were the firmware updates included in software updates from Apple? I'm wondering because the boot ROM on my PM G5 is 5.2.4f1 and the offering on the Apple firmware download site is 5.1.5f2. This is also true on my TiBooks. Did Apple discontinue to offer the boot ROM's? Or am I checking the wrong site? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 PM temps
Now that all's well on my PM G5 Dual 2.7 with new heat sink I want to know what to think about temp ranges on the CPU's. The limit says 181.4F they are running at 141.F to 162.F while on the net burning a CD along with Mail running and a radio program on and transferring a 1GB file via Ethernet to try to work it. I'm using "Hardware Monitor" to check this does that seem OK? Also is the another boot CD that I can get that will check the CPU's other than ASD 2.5.7 or ASD 2.5.8? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA >From my PM G5 Dual 2.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which used Mac to buy?
On Nov 13, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Tom wrote: > After several years of daily use, my trusty G5 2.0 is headed for the > boneyard--it's showing the symptoms of power-supply failure. So rather > than muck around in its innards trying to revive it, which I don't > have either the time or experience to do, I'm looking for a > replacement, probably off Ebay. I'd like a quicker Mac anyway, and > this is my excuse to get one. > > The Question: which Mac to replace it with? I don't have the cash for > a brand new one, so should I get another G5, only a later and better > one? Or should I step up to a used Intel Mac? > > I've always been impressed with the level of expertise and wisdom > shown by the participants of this board, so I'm putting it up to you > guys. > > I'm running Leopard 10.5 and Final Cut Pro 5, Adobe CS2 which includes > Photoshop 9 and InDesign 4, and various other apps that work great > with 10.5. I don't have a lot of money for updating my software, > especially Final Cut, so should I stick with 10.5, or go for an Intel > Mac that can run 10.6? If I use 10.6, will all these old apps of mine > continue to work with it, or is it necessary to upgrade all the > software to work with an Intel-based Mac? These are things I don't > know. > > If I stick with a G5, I'd like to get a faster one than my 2.0 GHz DP, > just to reduce all those long rendering times in Final Cut a little. > So if I go for a faster G5, which is the best model to look for? Or > rather, which are the ones NOT to look for, such as those famously > leaky liquid-cooled ones? > > I'd appreciate any advice you guys might have on which Mac I should > get before I go hunting for one on Ebay. > I love the liquid cooled models because I like to work on Mac's :-) however my advice to you on the cash side of things I would get an Imac Intel 2.8 or up and stick to 10.5.8 as long as you can hold out on the software issues. I have Snow Leopard too but cost wise I like to be able to be backward compatible wherever possible. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which used Mac to buy?
On Nov 13, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Tom wrote: > Thanks much, everybody. Well, you've convinced me that I need to move > up into the Intel world for the sort of work I do, but I think I'll > have to get a tower rather than an iMac or Mini, because I'd like to > just switch my two 1 TB hard drives from the G5 into the new machine, > and I'd also like to keep using two big monitors. I guess I'm a tower > man, then. > > As to the software issues, what if I got an Intel Mac Pro of some > flavor and just stayed in 10.5 with it, in case there might be > problems with some of my old software in Snow Leopard? I could work my > way up to 10.6 gradually. > > Being a technology ignoramus, I don't know one type of Intel Mac Pro > from another; Bruce up above mentions a "second generation" of them, > and I don't know from this Core Duo/Core 2 duo 32/64 bit processor > stuff. > > But it appears from what you all say that I'd be best off with a > "second generation" 64-bit Core 2 Duo Mac Pro. My budget is around > $1000, maybe a bit more. Can anyone suggest a used model of Mac Pro > that fits this bill, and my (dollar) bills? Or am I asking for too > much for the money? I would strongly recommend 10.5.8 till you really need Snow Leopard. I have both so I'm not saying this sideways.:-) Snow Leopard can lock you out off Intuit programs that run on Intel and PPC have so be careful of that I found out the hard way. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Dual processors not bad?
On Nov 14, 2010, at 8:15 AM, ah...clem wrote: > On Nov 12, 11:51 pm, John Carmonne wrote: > >> I got ASD 2.5.7 and upon booting and selecting the Thermal calibration is >> says calibration not needed. And It will not allow the initiation of the >> calibration operation, however the ASD 2.5.8 says not needed but will let me >> try anyway. So I think that the 2.5.8 may produce a false reading if >> calibration is not needed. And again the "OS" and "OF" passed all two hours >> of it :-) >> > > what exactly did the ASD report as the specific test failed when it > said the processor needed replaced? > > As I remember tafs out of range replace processor. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA >From PM G5 Dual 2.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Dual processors not bad?
On Nov 14, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Andy wrote: >> Off topic, but I filled my coolant system with this oil that doesn't harm >> the components inside. > Can you provide detailed instructions on the refilling process.? Also where do you buy the O-rings and the coolant? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
On Nov 14, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote: > On Nov 14, 7:57 pm, Kris Tilford wrote: >> I think it's a Toast plugin causing the problem. >> Why not burn directly within iTunes? >> Why not upgrade iTunes to 10.1? > > I too wondered about this Consul log entry, Kris, since I AM trying to > burn directly from iTunes. > i.e. select playlist / burnplaylist (button at bottom right) > > is iTunes 10.1 Tiger compatible? > > You know, I haven't burned a CD for awhile so not sure if immediately > previous activity is relevant; > but, for the record... > > A friend, who has gone Intel, gave me his 12" PB G4 that he could not > boot after HD replacement. > I got it running and set up a local LAN profile. > Naively (read "unthinking) I gave the PB the same "user name" as my > Mini. > The Mini didn't like that, so I changed the PB name. > > Next project was CD burn and all the trouble. > > Cliff iTunes 10 is not Tiger compatible AKAIK. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 PM temps
On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/11/13 11:48, John Carmonne so eloquently wrote: Now that all's well on my PM G5 Dual 2.7 with new heat sink I want to know what to think about temp ranges on the CPU's. The limit says 181.4F they are running at 141.F to 162.F CPU A is currently running at 52° C, and CPU B is at 62° C with a 100% load each and an ambient temperature of 16° C. I hope this is somewhat useful to you even though our PMs are not the same. Tina The only time my PM G5 Dual 2.7 runs as cool as 52° C is in sleep mode. AFAICT at full load 80° to 82° C is what I'm getting. I think this was the reason for the water pumper heat sink. But I have 5 SATA drives with a total of ten TB's I think if I remove the three in the front fan bay it may drop the temp some but then back to externals all over the place.:-) JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: B&W: Is It or Isn't It? (Silly Senile Question). . .
On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Yersinia wrote: > Hi Listers, > > The current running thread about Yosemite B&W upgrades made me wonder if MY > B&W was also a Yosemite. I never knew its "codename" for sure like I did my > old G3 Beige desktop, the Gossamer. My B&W is the 450 MHz one, and > Everymac.com says it's "based on Yosemite architecture" but doesn't say > anything else or specify outright that it's actually a Yosemite. So do any of > you know: is it a Yosemite, or isn't it? And if it isn't, what is it, and can > someone please tell me where do we go to find out these things? I thought > Everymac.com was the place for this and can't believe I couldn't find this > out from there. > > Thanks! > > ~Yersinia. > I think you'll find that info on Mactracker.:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Time Machine on Carbonite?
Does any one know if Time Machine can be used on a service like the "Carbonite" off site backup service. also do these services back up a bootable drive similar to CCC? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:41 AM, Paul Stamsen wrote: Over the weekend I managed to gunge up my B&W to the point where a re-install was necessary. I've gotten as far as 10.2.3 and can get no further, despite good copies of 10.3.3. I cannot seem to find the right version of XpostFacto. 3.0 won't see the discs, 4. won't see anything. I am so spoiled by years of painless Tiger I'm hopeless. Anyone have a lot of patience to spare? As near as I can tell, I got both h/ds in pretty good shape. And, less I've chosen wrong, I believe this would be the right list? Thanks, Paul Are you running XPostFacto from OS 9.2.2 On a partition under 8GB? That's where I start also check the Apple site for a possible firmware update for your machine. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/11/14 22:57, John Carmonne so eloquently wrote: iTunes 10 is not Tiger compatible AKAIK. So Apple finally did do something for Tiger users… :-p Tina Not fair I have 8TB of multiple libraries shared over 6 machines, two of which run best on Tiger, So I have to make a Leo partition to access my main libraries, syncing made harder in this town, Oh well that's just me. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Time Machine on Carbonite?
AFAIK, Time Machine requires a locally connected or an AFP accessible HFS+ volume. also do these services back up a bootable drive similar to CCC? No. And neither does Time Machine. CCC works quite well, over the 'net, btw... How do you do a CCC backup over a LAN? JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:48 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Are you running XPostFacto from OS 9.2.2 On a partition under 8GB? That's where I start also check the Apple site for a possible firmware update for your machine. If he is, it is COMPLETELY un-necessary. The 8GB limit ONLY applies to the Beige G3's, the first gen iMacs and the Wall Street powerbook; all those need XPF to go beyond 10.2. If it truly is a Blue&White G3 tower, it is fully supported by Apple up through 10.4.11. I was under the impression that the first B/W was the same as the first iMac only expandable and able to run 10.2. But I guess the telling feature for Tiger then would be F/W? Only using XPF on Wallstreets I just assumed when the OP mentioned XPF it was required on his machine:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: > Hi Larry... > > On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: > >> I installed OSX 10.4 on my old Smurf and XPostFacto was required. 10.2 >> (Jaguar) was the last OS version that was fully supported on the Smurf. >> >> >> Larry > > I have two B&W machines that would respectfully disagree. Installed and > running OS X 10.4.11 (Looked it up.) no problems. > Ths may be a RAM problem or the medi8a is burned and the old drives don't like it. AlsoI have noticed a problem with 10.4.11 when the RAM is less than 192 I have booted with 128 but that doesn't always get it up and when it is you can't do much. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
On Nov 17, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: > >> >> OK, OK, time to 'fess up. I'm trying to use two dark grey disks for an eMac >> (which >> have been fine previously) but I cannot get the Smurf to boot from them nor >> do any >> versions of XPF see them. I had no problem in the past using those same >> discs > > Are you SURE about the 'no problems in the past'? Because gray disks are > system-specific restore disks, and typically do not work on other systems. I find this to be possible because I have a grey iMac G3 600 OS9.2.2 install disk that came with my machine new and it will work in any G3-G4 machine, however I have one from the same model iMac a Snow model that only will work on the iMac G3 600's John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Time Machine on Carbonite?
>>> >>> How do you do a CCC backup over a LAN? >> >> Follow the directions in the documentation, which is available both from >> CCC's Help menu and online. >> >> <http://bombich.com/software/docs/CCC/en.lproj/index.html> >> > > Just make sure you get the Target disk names spelled correctly ... I don't > believe CCC verifies things along that line, and just starts copying to ... > unless he's fixed that. Something about being difficult to do over a network > ... CCC over a LAN works great, otherwise. > Well back to it again I tried this about 8 mos ago and all I could do over my LAN was a disk image The CCC on my net would save a lot of mickey motion at least on the Gigabit side of the condo the other side is wireless g speed to Ethernet 100 via bridge. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
> > The problem seems to be getting a good copy of the appropriate XPF so far > 3.0 or 3.1 > can't see the install disk. 4.0 says it is not for this Power PC (as I recall > I am > getting a little foggy in my old age and at this late hour . . . > Try this site. http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/Framework.cfm?page=XPostFacto3.html John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 RAM voltage
On Nov 19, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Nov 19, 2010, at 4:24 PM, M Christol wrote: > >> I believe I have it in right but it's not showing up. > > My G5 is VERY picky about how the RAM is seated. In my experience, all > computers that require matched sets are difficult. I've reseated and > restarted my G5 perhaps 18-20 times before, moving the sticks in matched > slots as required, but in different slots. As soon as the all were > recognized, no problems whatsoever. You may want to consider pressing the > CUDA reset, I don't think this is required. > I had a real problem with my G5 after replacing the heat sink. Half the RAM was not reporting and weird things on the system were happening. Anyway I took out all eight sticks keeping track of the pairs. I spray cleaned all the slots and the ram and installed in pairs. Afterwards all the RAM showed up and the system was working right again. It had me worried that my logicboard was history. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 RAM voltage
On Nov 20, 2010, at 10:01 AM, M Christol wrote: > On 11/19/10 8:49 PM, John Carmonne wrote: >> On Nov 19, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: >> >>> On Nov 19, 2010, at 4:24 PM, M Christol wrote: >>> >>>> I believe I have it in right but it's not showing up. >>> My G5 is VERY picky about how the RAM is seated. In my experience, all >>> computers that require matched sets are difficult. I've reseated and >>> restarted my G5 perhaps 18-20 times before, moving the sticks in matched >>> slots as required, but in different slots. As soon as the all were >>> recognized, no problems whatsoever. You may want to consider pressing the >>> CUDA reset, I don't think this is required. >>> >> I had a real problem with my G5 after replacing the heat sink. Half the RAM >> was not reporting and weird things on the system were happening. Anyway I >> took out all eight sticks keeping track of the pairs. I spray cleaned all >> the slots and the ram and installed in pairs. Afterwards all the RAM showed >> up and the system was working right again. It had me worried that my >> logicboard was history. >> >> >> > What did you use for spray cleaning? > I rearranged the RAM & 2 original sticks in the third position are not > working & the new sticks in the first slots are not working. > Basically, anything I touch isn't working > :-) > I use a product that I buy at Fry's Electronics named PUREtronics® Extra-STRENGTH conact cleaner it leaves no residue I use this on all the connections in my machines. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP <>-- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 RAM voltage
On Nov 20, 2010, at 10:15 AM, John Carmonne wrote: > > On Nov 20, 2010, at 10:01 AM, M Christol wrote: > >> On 11/19/10 8:49 PM, John Carmonne wrote: >>> On Nov 19, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: >>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2010, at 4:24 PM, M Christol wrote: >>>> >>>>> I believe I have it in right but it's not showing up. >>>> My G5 is VERY picky about how the RAM is seated. In my experience, all >>>> computers that require matched sets are difficult. I've reseated and >>>> restarted my G5 perhaps 18-20 times before, moving the sticks in matched >>>> slots as required, but in different slots. As soon as the all were >>>> recognized, no problems whatsoever. You may want to consider pressing the >>>> CUDA reset, I don't think this is required. >>>> >>> I had a real problem with my G5 after replacing the heat sink. Half the RAM >>> was not reporting and weird things on the system were happening. Anyway I >>> took out all eight sticks keeping track of the pairs. I spray cleaned all >>> the slots and the ram and installed in pairs. Afterwards all the RAM showed >>> up and the system was working right again. It had me worried that my >>> logicboard was history. >>> >>> >>> >> What did you use for spray cleaning? >> I rearranged the RAM & 2 original sticks in the third position are not >> working & the new sticks in the first slots are not working. >> Basically, anything I touch isn't working >> :-) >> > I use a product that I buy at Fry's Electronics named PUREtronics® > Extra-STRENGTH conact cleaner it leaves no residue I use this on all the > connections in my machines. Sorry bout that last attachment, Fat fingers. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Installing tiger on a new hardrive
On Nov 21, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Geke wrote: > Forgot to say (on your other thread) that your G4 probably has the > 120GB limit, meaning that you have to partition drives into volumes of > max 120GB. "Speed Tools" available at OWC will overcome the 128 GB limit on the oder G4's also there's an open firmware command that does it but it's never worked for me. Partitioning will not help the 128 limit. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead Dead Drive
On Nov 28, 2010, at 10:40 AM, AndersFager wrote: > Back again. Trying get a new 500 GIG Caviar WD5000AA to work on a G5 > 20-inch 1.8 Ghz machine. The Machine starts fine on a install CD but > neither the installer or Disc Utility can even find the new drive. > The drive has been tested on another Mac and had been formated ok. The > cables look ok. What can I do now to locate the problem? > > Anders Are you sure the power cable is connected correctly. It's easy to miss the slot on them, I found that on my G5 PM recently. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Trouble fixing G5
On Nov 26, 2010, at 10:50 AM, G T wrote: > I bought a 2.0 Ghz g5 along with a bunch of other parts from someone > who was closing down his repair shop. He told me that the only thing > that was wrong with it was a broken power supply (since he has helped > me with other stuff I am sure it was in that state when he gave it to > me). However, I just replaced the power supply and the computer will > now turn on but that's about it, I can't get anything else to happen. > When I turn the computer on it revs like it is going to start normally > but it doesn't really get going, then if I leave it on for a while the > fans slowly start going faster and faster. > > Before you reply I should tell you off a few possible mistakes I could > have made. The computer was without ram or a HD when I got it. I put > in 2 apple branded 512 DDR pc3200 sticks of ram which I have defiantly > put in the correct dims. The HD may be the source of the problems as > the only HD I had that would fit (all my others HDs are ide) was a > toshiba HD from a la cie external hard drive. I copied the OS from > another HD onto it using disk utility then removed it and installed it > into the G5. Also, The heat sinks were in a different box so I had to > put them in as well. > > I have apple diagnostic discs that will diagnose any problems if I can > get it running but right now I'm stuck. I don't want to spend any more > on this to get it running unless I have to. > > Thanks > > GT > Be sure the RAM is in the right slots pairs only. Also spray clean the RAM and slots with a contact cleaner that leaves no residue. Remove theBattery and all plugs and depress the CUDA for 15 secs and wait 15 mins and the reassemble. Be sure the air deflector is in place when you try to boot. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube immediately shuts down with 10.5
On Nov 26, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Andrew W. Hill wrote: > I recently installed 10.5 on my G4/450 Cube using the open firmware > hack, and it now turns off immediately after booting from the disk. A > reinstall did not help. It boots fine from the 10.5 installer. Has > anyone else had any problems like this? > Cheers, > aqua Can you boot the 10.5 from an external? I have some Cubes and the 450 really doesn't do to well with Leopard. Most of the time the shutdown problems are video card and case switch issues. If you have a ADC display disconnect the case switch and reseat the VRM and video card Boot from the ADC monitor switch on the lower right corner, and see if that helps. All my Leopard systems on the slow machines I install via CCC. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead Dead Drive
On Nov 29, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Gottick International wrote: Back again. Trying get a new 500 GIG Caviar WD5000AA to work on a G5 20-inch 1.8 Ghz machine. The cables look ok. What can I do now to locate the problem? Anders Are you sure the power cable is connected correctly. It's easy to miss the slot on them, I found that on my G5 PM recently. Which of the two cables to the drive is the power cable? A The larger one is the power cable however it's just as easy to misconnect both. Look real close also I've damaged the cables by pulling them the wrong way. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 is dead, and not sure what to do.
The power button on the monitor and the tower both light up, but I get nothing else. I have reset the ram, but that has not worked. I have not checked the CMOS battery, and not really convinced that that is the problem. I could be wrong. I'm not extremely knowledgeable in this area, although I am gaining rather quickly. I'm hoping I can resurrect this little baby, and maybe do some upgrades on it. It's still a stock 733 MHz processor, with at least 256 mb ram and an 80 harddrive. Any ideas on how to fix it? Remove the PRAM battery and ram along with disconnecting the HDD's and all the external stuff. Spray clean all the slots with a residue free contact cleaner. Hold down the CUDA switch for 15 secs, reassemble and hold down the power switch till a long beep and light flashes, It should come up. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Tom wrote: > My sister-in-law has a G4 eMac that came with a 40-gig drive, which > has filled up. The computer is perfectly functional, though, and > serves all her needs; she just needs more storage room. > > I bought a 500-gig drive for her from OWC and intended to replace the > old one with the new. Then on searching for instructions to swap out > the drive online, I find numerous warnings that this is not a Mac > intended for owners to open up. Certain interior parts that have to be > removed are fragile and easily broken, and the electrical charge in > the CRT is very dangerous. So says websites such as EveryMac. (Why, > then, does OWC sell drives that are advertised as upgrades for an > eMac? Just who is supposed to replace the drives, if the owner can't?) > > So, I called the local Apple store (in Albuquerque) to see if they'd > put the drive in for me, and was told that "we don't service older > Macs. And that one is even dangerous to open up." > > Well, thanks for nothing, Apple. Just how new does a Mac have to be > before an Apple technician will service it? Brand new, or nearly so? > And do you really build computers so dangerous that even an Apple tech > is afraid to open it up? > > What kind of a crummy company is this, anyway? Methinks they really > need some competition. As it is, they obviously feel free to jettison > owners of their products once those products have passed a certain > age. > > Believe me, if i didn't have so much money invested in Apple products > and software, my next computer would not be an Apple, after treatment > like this. > Not that hard to do Tom if you take care. I think the reason for the warnings is because some people can't even hold a screwdriver by the correct end.:-) http://lancej.blogspot.com/search/label/eMac John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver Freezes during software update
On Dec 2, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Ok. So I ran disk utility, and left the machine unattended. It fell asleep after the verification came back OK. When I woke it up, it froze the same way it did before. I'm realizing that every time I ran the software update, the computer fell asleep at the end, and it froze when I woke it. So maybe it has a problem waking up? -Jonas Set the preferences to never sleep and no hard drive spin down during the operation. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
capture still pics from movies
I would like to capture still pics from .wmv files that dump into my iPhoto library from my digital Olympus camera. I can freeze the shot I want and click the pic to remove the control strip but as soon as I move the mouse to use a capture command the control panel reappears. I'm not finding an answer in iPhoto help. I'm using iPhoto '09. I'm hoping for a simple method to do this. Anyone else do this? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: capture still pics from movies
On Dec 4, 2010, at 7:39 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: > > On Dec 4, 2010, at 10:24 AM, John Carmonne wrote: > >> I would like to capture still pics from .wmv files that dump into my iPhoto >> library from my digital Olympus camera. I can freeze the shot I want and >> click the pic to remove the control strip but as soon as I move the mouse to >> use a capture command the control panel reappears. I'm not finding an answer >> in iPhoto help. I'm using iPhoto '09. I'm hoping for a simple method to do >> this. Anyone else do this? >> >> >> John Carmonne >> Yorba Linda USA >> Sent from my MBP > > Have you tried using the old school command-shift-4 partial screen capture > command? command shift 3 captures the whole screen, but 4 brings up cross > hairs that allow you to only capture part of the screen. > > Len The command shift 4 will work fine but as soon as I move the mouse the control panel reappears in the picture. I need to get the picture without the panel in it. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Cube processor upgrade?
Hi All I have a Cube with a Sonnet 1.2 and 1.5 GB RAM. I get a lot of SPOD (beach ball) when trying to do a Carbon Copy Clone Between 2 FW ports and it doesn't matter which drive I'm booted to. It seems to be real slow and I'm wondering if a Logic board can do this. I've tested it with all the apps I have and they all say everything's OK. It seems any time I do any thing with drives like CCC for instance it will SPOD forever and I have to force shutdown and restart. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 2 Questions
On Dec 4, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: > One, what do you think of these? Just saw the ad and was curious > Firewire-to-USB Adapters - www.NexTag.com/Firewire-to-USB - Get > Firewire-to-USB Adapters Cheap! > > Also, is there any way to check a USB Thumb Drive or Hub to see if it has any > issues? Don't try to plug a USB stick into one of the FW/USB adaptors it will fry your thumb drive pronto' I found out the hard way, ruined two 8GB Ativa drives. A $82.00 lesson. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA carmo...@aol.com <>-- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Nanny note Re: 2 Questions
sorry bout this it's a mistake, Too quick on the fat finger. On Dec 4, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: > John, > > I know it is very small, and probably part of your sig, but please do not > send any attachments to the list. > > Thanks, > Len Gerstel > List Nanny > > On Dec 4, 2010, at 6:52 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > >> >> On Dec 4, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: >> >>> One, what do you think of these? Just saw the ad and was curious >>> Firewire-to-USB Adapters - www.NexTag.com/Firewire-to-USB - Get >>> Firewire-to-USB Adapters Cheap! >>> >>> Also, is there any way to check a USB Thumb Drive or Hub to see if it has >>> any issues? >> >> Don't try to plug a USB stick into one of the FW/USB adaptors it will fry >> your thumb drive pronto' I found out the hard way, ruined two 8GB Ativa >> drives. A $82.00 lesson. >> >> John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Nanny note Re: 2 Questions
On Dec 4, 2010, at 7:01 PM, ah...clem wrote: > On Dec 4, 7:34 pm, Len Gerstel wrote: >> John, >> >> I know it is very small, and probably part of your sig, but please do not >> send any attachments to the list. >> >> Thanks, >> Len Gerstel >> List Nanny > > exsqueeze me, mr. list nanny sir, but why are you picking on only one > person here, john carmonne? i have to scroll past a whole boatload of > idiotic tag lines appended at the end of every single post that some > of these folks send (like stephen conrad and bruce johnson, just to > name two). and that includes instances where they make multiple posts > to the same thread and we are all forced to see the same useless bunk > over and over and over and over. i'm perfectly willing to admit that > these guys are valuable resources for the lemlists, BUT, i think we're > ALL getting a little tired of wisdom from buckaroo banzai and advice > from sci-fi fantasy game characters. what if someone started posting > to every thread everyday with a political campaign slogan appended at > the end of every email? would that be tolerated? you can't posture > yourself as a someone who enforces the rules and then be arbitrary and > hypocritical. rules are for everyone. it's WAY past time to kill the > bunny, and stop fictitious characters from plagiarizing the Tao Te > Ching. and that should also include self-aggrandizing signatures with > professional titles, complete addresses, or a line indicating what > device was used to send the message. who gives a flying rat's poop- > shute. > > THANK YOU. > And many thaks to you Sir!! John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Nanny note Re: 2 Questions
On Dec 4, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Tim Gochnour wrote: > > On Dec 4, 2010, at 11:58 PM, Tim Gochnour wrote: > >> >>> >>> I think the Nanny was referring not to the existence of the signature but >>> to the small image that was attached at the end of it. >>> >>> Isaac >> Thank you Isaac. They say ig-nence is bliss. Clem seemed pretty happy >> talking about something totally different that what Paul presented > > or Len > > LOL > > -- > Tim > list moderator > Geez guys the post I made to warn you all about the FW/USB adaptors ruining your equipment is what started this nonsense. That attachment I had was a mistake, not intentional. So did the warning on the device go unheeded amongst all the ensuing dribble? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Nanny note Re: 2 Questions
On Dec 5, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: > OK folks a few things. > > My apologies to John. That was supposed to have gone to him off list. Sorry. > > Attachments are not allowed on any Low End Mac mailing list. No exceptions > for sigs, screen shots of a problem, cute kitty cats, viruses from a windows > pc or any thing else. NO attachments. > > As to overly long sigs. The LEM guide to netiquette at: > > http://lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > No problem Len happy I'm allowed to post:-) Ok back to the OT, "2 Questions"has anyone else fried USB devices using the prementioned adaptors? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PCMIA USB/FW card?
I'm trying to find a PCMIA USB/FW combination card with a wall wart power supply for my Wally's. It seems to be a rare item. All the ones I see on eBay state Windows but not Apple/Mac I have an HP model that's spotty at best as far as working at all. I have a Belkin USB card that works and a Firewire card also, But I really would like a Combo USB/FW. Anyone know of one? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
WallStreet G3 DVD problem
I'm not getting any joy here trying to get my Wally to play a flick. In "OS 9.2.2" the DVD card mounts on the desktop and the DVD also mounts, but when I try to start "DVD Player" I get an error that says hardware can't be found and that I should reinstall DVD Player. Where do I find DVD player? I reinstalled OS 9.2.2 and the darn thing then said that my machine doesn't support DVD Player so I CCC'd the original system back. I"m wondering if the card maybe can go bad but still mount? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Optical drive interface speeds
Is there any advantage to a USB/FW400/FW800 and eSATA on an enclosure with an optical drive in it. Can the drive run as fast or faster than USB? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Ram speed
Is there a speed difference or advantage in RAM speed between PC100 and PC133, I ask because I'm able to run 256 PC133 low density sticks in one of my Wallstreet PowerBooks that only will run 256 PC100 normally, it appears that the low density 256 sticks are the trick. Good to know because finding the right RAM to get 512 in the Wally's is getting more scarce. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MacAlly Combination Firewire/USB PCI Adapter card Compatibility ?
On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote: I have a MacAlly Combination Firewire/USB PCI Adapter card At the Macally driver site http://www.macally.com/EN/Techsupport/Drivers.asp they list drivers for OS 10.1 and 10.2 (jaguar) Macally tech support didn't seem to knowledgeable about it so I wondering if anyone could comment on the likelihood of the 10.2 driver working with later OS versions up to 10.4 ? thank you Cliff I can send you off list, "Tiger 10.4.11" drivers to work with the card. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MacAlly Combination Firewire/USB PCI Adapter card Compatibility ?
On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote: Thank you for thatoffer John. Do you have "after-market" drivers (sort of speak)? I'm told by the seller of the card the FH-UF2 card works with 10.4.11 And, in an off list response Felix wrote: "In my experience, PCI FW and/or USB cards are plug-and-play under Tiger/Leopard, no drivers needed. It should "just work." Regrettably, Macally tech reports: "Unfortunately the drivers applied to FH-UF2 are all posted on Macally website, there has been no driver available for OS 9." So, John, might you point me to a driver that would compatiblize the FH-UF2 with OS 9 ? Cliff Are you using OS 9.2.2 ? I take everything that says "USB and FW" from OS 9.2.2 Install disk and apply to the system extensions. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Password protect
I want to password protect certain HDD's in my G5 PM Dual 2.7 It has 5 drives and I want to block access to three of them. Can I do this? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: speakers
On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Barney Guzzo wrote: Can anyone recommend inexpensive but a good quality set of speakers for my PM G4 Quicksilver 933? I have a pair of Logitech LS11 speakers I got at Fry's for $15.00. They are very good and have a convenient out put jack on the front of the right speaker to connect to your stereo if needed and a volume knob. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA From PM G5 Dual 2.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Password protect
On Dec 13, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Dan wrote: > At 9:44 AM -0800 12/12/2010, John Carmonne wrote: >> I want to password protect certain HDD's in my G5 PM Dual 2.7 It has 5 >> drives and I want to block access to three of them. >> Can I do this? > > Block access to whom/what? and for what purpose? > If I let people use my computer I don't want them to have access to all the HDD's on the particular machine. It's easy to do it with an external, just turn if off but an internal is different. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Password protect
On Dec 13, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Yersinia wrote: > On 12/13/10 4:36 PM, John Carmonne wrote: >> On Dec 13, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Dan wrote: >> >>> At 9:44 AM -0800 12/12/2010, John Carmonne wrote: >>>> I want to password protect certain HDD's in my G5 PM Dual 2.7 It has 5 >>>> drives and I want to block access to three of them. >>>> Can I do this? >>> Block access to whom/what? and for what purpose? >>> >> If I let people use my computer I don't want them to have access to all the >> HDD's on the particular machine. It's easy to do it with an external, just >> turn if off but an internal is different. > > Curiously, can't you do a Get Info on the HDDs you don't want others to use > and set the permissions for "no access" (except for yourself, of course?) Or > if there are particular people to whom you habitually grant access to your > computer, make accounts for them and set it up so only YOUR account can > access those HDDs you want to keep private for yourself only -- or set up a > generic account for 'anyone who wants to use my G5' to which you give them > the password, and from which those HDDs are not accessible? > Well I want others to be able to use my account but be restricted to certain drives, I need a solution similar to the password requirement to install software. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Password protect
On Dec 13, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Dan wrote: > At 2:39 PM -0800 12/13/2010, John Carmonne wrote: >> Well I want others to be able to use my account but be restricted to certain >> drives, I need a solution similar to the password requirement to install >> software. > > Do a Get Info on your boot volume and examine the permissions. Notice that > it's owned by system and that others have only read access. Take away that > read access, and you no gots access into the drive without authenticating... > > Do the same to those drives you want to protect. > > The key is to make sure YOU don't own the drive! That way it takes > authentication to change the permissions back... > > - Dan. Thanks Dan. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Password protect
On Dec 14, 2010, at 8:19 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Well I want others to be able to use my account but be restricted to certain drives, I need a solution similar to the password requirement to install software. Absent encrypting the drives with another password, you cannot do this. This defeats the entire purpose of having user accounts. The PROPER way to do this is to create an account for those folks and then share what you want shared, rather than try to restrict what they can see. My main company accounts along with design drawings are on the office machines, I can keep pending product files on an external and just unplug them it's just I thought if I could password protect those internal drives instead of the constant bother of updating access on user accounts life would be simpler. Dan's fix did what I need it may be a little crude but effective and easy for me to use. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: The Attack of the Giant Pixels
On Dec 16, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Saying that is wrong. That can happen anywhere (ie. the SwapList). It seems to be a that the problem is the video card. Not because it can't handle the resolution but because it may be seated wrong in the slot, dirty, or damaged. The G5's can really give fits for more than one reason. Besides cleaning and reseating the video card check profiler to see if the RAM is properly reported, I've had poorly seated RAM do things like this in the PM G5's. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes on Tiger
On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Dan wrote: > At 2:53 PM -0600 12/16/2010, Kris Tilford wrote: >> >> I find it strange this special 8.x version for G3's when 9.2.1 runs fine on >> G3's > I may have got to this thread late but i find it very easy to just install itunes from the Tiger or panther disc and let Apple update iTunes to the max version acceptable on the particular Mac. My iMac G3 IS 8.2.1 while all my G4 machines finish up at 9.2.1 However if I put a HHD from one of the G3's in a G4 machine and run software update it jacks up to 9.2.1. Therefore I have itunes 9.2.1 on my G3 Wally. If I need to jack up my iMac G3 I can do it via CCC by booting the CCC from the iMac G3 on one of the TiBooks and then copy back to the G3. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: The Attack of the Giant Pixels
On Dec 16, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Tom wrote: > > So, whether the trouble is coming from the video card or the logic > board, I can't do anything about it, and unless somebody here has some > other ideas on how to fix it, I guess this G5 goes back to the seller. > Drat. > > Tom > Which G5 is it? I think maybe you can do more in the reseating dept. The machines are very touchy with their contacts. Have you reset the CUDA switch? Some call it SMU? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Radeon 9000
Does any one know if a Radeon 9000 Pro video card out of a G4 MDD will run in a G4 Cube? Would there be an advantage over a Radeon 7500 on the same Apple 20" cinema display? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 iMac won't connect wirelessly to internet
On Dec 18, 2010, at 9:03 PM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: > Stats: G4 iMac running 10.4.11; was connected to Airport Extreme with > Ethernet; PowerBook and MacBook Pro connected thru this network > > Today I set up a new IMac, attaching it to the Airport Extreme with Ethernet; > the laptops are connecting to the internet just fine. > > What do I need to do to get the G4 iMac to connect wirelessly to the internet? > Go to system preferences and choose AirPort, then tell it to connect. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 iMac won't connect wirelessly to internet
Go to system preferences and choose AirPort, then tell it to connect. John, I went to System Preferences>network>Assist me> and Airport is grayed out. So Maybe this iMac doesn't have Airport since it was connected to one with Ethernet??? Jane What model G4 iMac do you have, Try System Profiler to see if it has AirPort. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 iMac won't connect wirelessly to internet
t??? It appears your iMac doesn't have an Airport card installed? If you're lucky and have a USB 2.0 G4 iMac you can use faster Airport cards or even used a USB wireless adapater. It might be smarter to use a USB adapter, generally any with a Broadcom chipset can be recognized in OS X identically as Apple "Airport" using all the built-in OS X software. Otherwise, an Airport Extreme 802.11b/g card is the OEM card for the USB 2.0 G4 iMac, although there may be newer 802.11n cards that fit, I don't know? If you're unlucky and have a prior model with only USB 1.1 you're kinda stuck. These use an original Airport 802.11b card, and the USB is too slow to go any faster than 802.11b, so even though you could use a faster USB adapter, it would still be going slowly because of the USB limitation. You can open up the iMac and look for the Airport card, and if there's not one installed and you need wireless, buying an original Airport 802.11b card is probably the best solution. The fastest solution will be to use the wired ethernet cable at 100 Mbps. Well I got around the slow AirPort b and the USB 1.1 dealio by connecting a G4 cube to my LAN using a Ethernet Bridge made by LinkSys it produces almost G speed a whole lot faster than AirPort b and USB 1.1 dongle. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead computer??
On Dec 21, 2010, at 4:06 PM, DAN A CURRIE wrote: > My sons MDD 1.25 dualie 2GB RAM running 10.5 has died. We had a electrical > storm a couple of days ago so I unplugged it, forgot to plug it in until > today, when I did and pressed the start button, NOTHING! Put a new MB battery > in it and pressed the button again, NOTHING! > > I have never had a computer die and this is my old computer and it is lean > and well maintained. > > Ideas and suggestions welcome, > Take out the PRAM batt and disconnect all cables, Remove the RAM and press the CUDA switch for 15 secs, it's next to the battery. Reassemble with 1 RAM stick and see if it boots. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA carmo...@aol.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: classic or no classic in leopard?
On Dec 22, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: > I didn't think of dual booting multiple versions of OS X either. lol > > Good to know about the OS9 /OS X dual boot option though. My trusty > Quicksilver 2002 runs both just fine. My PowerMac G4 MDD Dual 1.25 boots OS.9.2.2, Tiger 10.4.11, and Leopard 10.5.8. My PowerMac G5 Dual 2.7 Boots Tiger 10.4.11 and runs Classic, it also boots Leopard 10.5.8. G4 PowerMacs with FireWire 800 and up will no longer boot OS 9 but will run Classic with Tiger. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please!
On Dec 29, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: > OK, 2 questions > > 1) Kitty dumped Diet Pepsi on my (Mac) USB KB. How should I clean it so it > can be sued again? > In the meantime I am on a new Logitech K120 USb KB. On this beastie > (actually it is rather nice) which key > combo do I use to reboot? > Here is a good link if the keyboard is clear Pro Keyboard. I also soak in 99.9% alcohol and give plenty of dry time. http://www.sterpin.net/uk/prokeyboarduk.htm > 2) I tried to eject a CD and no go. Which key ejects CDs? If that does not > work how can I manually eject this > CD? > Hold down the mouse key while booting. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please!
It sounds extreme, but a very effective way to clear keyboard spills is to put the kb upside down on the upper rack of the dishwasher and run it through a cycle. Dry it out thoroughly, as others have advised, and it's perfectly fine. The dishwasher works fine for me if I disassemble the keyboard first and give a long time to dry. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please!
>> >> > You have not counted the amount of water used at pre-wash before the dishes > are thrown in. What a waste for owners. Meanwhile the folks at the utility > companies are running to the bank with joyful tears. The purpose of the dish washer is that it does a better job of cleaning without physical damage due to brushing and rubbing. As far as the green crap goes the waste of the compnent contributes a lot more wasted energy than the renewable water and electricity you use. BTW use the top rack away from the heating and drying coil. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please!
On Dec 31, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Nestamicky wrote: > On 31/12/10 8:01 AM, John Carmonne wrote: >> As far as the green crap goes the waste of the compnent contributes a lot >> more wasted energy than the renewable water and electricity you use. >> >> BTW use the top rack away from the heating and drying coil. > > Come on John, show some respect. Calling other's good intentions "green crap" > is unkind and unnecessary. You very well could have made your point without > use of the insult. Sorry, didn't mean to insult, being a manufacturer this green push takes it's toll.:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mouse/keyboard? problems
On Jan 1, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Paul Stamsen wrote: > I don't know if it's my Logitech Mouse (corded, laser) or my B&W but I can't > seem to > get solid connections. > Sometimes I have to switch to my MacMouse, but I don't get consistent use. > Clicking on links just is all over the place, but mostly it won't work. I > have to > highlight the link and paste it onto my browser. > > The keyboard too, is erratic and sometimes when I highlight for a > cut-and-paste the > wrong part of the sentence is effected. > > Any thoughts: I'm running 10.4.1 Build 8S165 and have 1 GB of RAM on a 600 > MHz Power > PC G4. > - I have the Logitech laser corded mouse on all my Mac's and really like them You say you have Tiger 10.4.1? Perhaps did you mean Tiger 10.4.11? That mouse doesn't like a shiny surface I make sure to use a dull opaque pad:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mouse/keyboard? problems
On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Jan 1, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Paul Stamsen wrote: > >> Any thoughts: I'm running 10.4.11 Build 8S165 and have 1 GB of RAM on a 600 >> MHz Power >> PC G4. > > Have you installed the Logitech software? It's called "Logitech Control > Center for Macintosh® OS X": > > <http://www.logitech.com/en-us/584/3129?> This is a new one for me I always just plug and play on the G3's and G4's and G5's with Tiger and Leopard. I really like the mouse because it's light and the right click with the scroll wheel is a welcome feature on the PPC machines. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA carmo...@aol.com <>-- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
I seem to have run into a bottle neck on my Cube 1.2GHz 1.5 GB RAM in that I can't get a YouTube to play smooth and iChat is out of sync on the sound along with very jumpy video. My G4 MDD 1.25 is 100 % better than the Cube. Can this be a Bus speed issue the Cube is 100 and the MDD is 167. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New G4 user - many questions
On Jan 2, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Greg Kennedy wrote: > After some more time of thinking about it, I'm considering going with a > really crazy solution and using 9.2.3 on the machine + Logic 6.4.3 + Pro > Tools Free (if I can find it) + Finale 2003. Way outdated software but it's > more than enough for our needs, and won't require any more hardware to be > purchased (SB Live has OS9 drivers from what I understand, 640mb RAM should > be enough too) > > Does OS 9, or any of the three tools I mentioned, support both processors in > the dual 533 G4? If not I'll definitely go Tiger. > That machine will run OS 9.2.2 in fine fashion, very fast. however you may need a special ROM to boot OS9 on that PowerMac G4. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
On Jan 2, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Dan wrote: > At 11:24 AM -0800 1/2/2011, John Carmonne wrote: >> I seem to have run into a bottle neck on my Cube 1.2GHz 1.5 GB RAM in that >> I can't get a YouTube to play smooth and iChat is out of sync on the sound >> along with very jumpy video. My G4 MDD 1.25 is 100 % better than the Cube. >> Can this be a Bus speed issue the Cube is 100 and the MDD is 167. > > OS? Flash vers? iChat vers? Details count! > OS 10.5.8, iChat 4.0.8, > What else is running? > Nothing not even Mail > Have you tried clearing caches and such? > To the max > What speed is your network connection? Is it running at said speed or ? > 3 GB's per second Time Warner RoadRunner turbo "Talladega Fast" > Why do you think some bus speed is involved? Playing video is very CPU > intensive, not memory or i/o intensive. My MDD 1.25 and Cube have the exact same CCC'd system so I thought because the Cube Bus is 100 and the MDD is 167 this is the only difference in the machines the Cubes video card is GeForce 3. Also one of My TiBooks 867 is 133 bus and iChat is better than the Cube but not as good as the G4 MDD or the G5 PowerMac so the faster processors only seem to do well on the faster Bus for the streaming AV? > > Do YouTube vids clean up if you add &fmt=5 to the end of the url? > > Try Yahoo! Messenger's video. Is it smooth? > > Are you having playing other videos? > DVD's play perfect. The iChat and Skype is all I'm bothered with. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9
On Jan 2, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: > I have a G4 flat screen iMac (the kind with the half ball on the > bottom) that is supposed to boot into OS 9 and X. I am running > 10.4.11. I tried booting into 9 and it won't do it. Classic will run > OK, though. Somehow it is screwed up somewhere. I need to boot up in 9 > to retrieve some stuff off of a floppy disk. > > I have the the original disks that came with the iMac and also the > Tiger install Cds. How do fix this so I can boot up in 9 and not break > anything else??? > > Jane Have you tried to boot by selecting the OS9 folder in Start Up disk in system preferences while running Tiger? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9
On Jan 2, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: > I have a G4 flat screen iMac (the kind with the half ball on the > bottom) that is supposed to boot into OS 9 and X. I am running > 10.4.11. I tried booting into 9 and it won't do it. Classic will run > OK, though. Somehow it is screwed up somewhere. I need to boot up in 9 > to retrieve some stuff off of a floppy disk. > > I have the the original disks that came with the iMac and also the > Tiger install Cds. How do fix this so I can boot up in 9 and not break > anything else??? > > Jane What model G4 iMac is it? Also what is the HDD size? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
On Jan 3, 2011, at 8:39 AM, dc wrote: On Jan 2, 2:24 pm, John Carmonne wrote: I seem to have run into a bottle neck on my Cube 1.2GHz 1.5 GB RAM in that I can't get a YouTube to play smooth and iChat is out of sync on the sound along with very jumpy video. It sounds like the Cube is nicely upgraded, the weak link may be the video card. My Cube has a GeForce 6200, a popular upgrade for the Cube, and it plays video pretty well (considering its age!). I have a GeForce 3 card that replaced a Radeon 7500 so I think that would discount the video card plus the display is only a Apple Studio 17" ADC. Playing video is not a problem its the streaming stuff like YouTube, iChat and Skype. Compared to my G4 1.25 MDD and G5 2.7 PowerMac the Cube isn't in the hunt even though it's got a 1.2 GHz processor. I still need to check some more things that Dan suggested I'm not alone with this problem It's hard to find folks that use a Cube or any slow Bus machine for iChat or Skype, hence the confusion as to the video performance. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:56 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Playing video is not a problem its the streaming stuff like YouTube, iChat and Skype. Compared to my G4 1.25 MDD and G5 2.7 PowerMac the Cube isn't in the hunt even though it's got a 1.2 GHz processor. Yes it DOES have to do with the video card. 10.4 offloads a bunch of processing to the video GPU if possible (and it's not just Core Video stuff). Streaming video is MUCH more CPU intensive than DVD playback. (This was covered in exhaustive detail on this list a month or so back), so anything that can be moved to the much-faster GPU really makes a difference. Also a Geforce 6200 is a much newer card than a GeForce3, iirc. -- My MDD has a Radeon Pro 9000 4x 64 MB card where as the Cube has a 2X slot with a 64 MB GeForce card, So using the smooth operation of the MDD 1.25 as a standard I assume the video card in the cube is adequate. Also one of my "Cubies" has a Nvidia 6800 256MB 256-Bit w/ Fan in his 1.7 Cube and no joy on ichat or Skype, This is where we seem to think the Bus speed is the bottle neck. So far I've heard from no one who claims to have a smooth, in sync, iChat or Skype experience on a Cube in any configuration. i JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
On Jan 4, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Nestamicky wrote: On 03/01/11 10:52 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Streaming video is MUCH more CPU intensive than DVD playback. (This was covered in exhaustive detail on this list a month or so back), so anything that can be moved to the much-faster GPU really makes a difference. John, What Bruce is really saying here is this: no one in this group, or perhaps, anywhere can find a way to sort out the problem with online videos on G4s such as yours and the Sawtooth. He has said though something new; that this problem is partly a cause of how 10.4 was written. That's very new and adds valuable insight to this common problem. The system I'm running here is 10.5.8 on a G4 Cube 1.2 with 1.5 GB RAM and a GeForce3 64 MB video card. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sudden power loss in G5
On Jan 3, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Leo Hoyt wrote: I have a dual 2.7 Ghz PPC G5 w/ 4.5 GB ram. The machine recently started powering off without warning. Is this signs of a power supply failing? If so how hard are the power supplies to replace in these towers? Thanks for the help. Leo The Powersupply can be replaeced by remvoving the CPU not too hard but be very careful of alignment removing it and replacing it. I can send you instructions OFF-LIST if you need it. Check the inside floor for any dampness it can be a leaking heat sink and when a processor over heats the Dual 2.7's shut down. In my experience a power supply works or doesn't work. You can unplug all the connectors and clean. Also make sure system profiler is actually reporting the 4.5 GB's of RAM. The RAM must be installed in pairs. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
On Jan 3, 2011, at 6:28 AM, Dan wrote: At 1:48 PM -0800 1/2/2011, John Carmonne wrote: 3 GB's per second Time Warner RoadRunner turbo "Talladega Fast" Run some traceroutes to the destination, to make sure there isn't a problem between you. This is not happening when using the G4 MDD, G5 Dual 2.7 or MacBook Pro on the same network. Ok. Run Activity Monitor and watch the paging and i/o rates. I have no idea what this is. If I have to be on iChat to check this it's hard to get anyone to stay up long enough.:-) > Do YouTube vids clean up if you add &fmt=5 to the end of the url? No the same deal. DVD's play perfect. The iChat and Skype is all I'm bothered with. DVDs playing fine means that your CPU, GPU, memory bus speed, and disk i/o speed are fine. Can you play streamed videos from sites such as hulu? No HuLu is a disaster Again - try Yahoo! Messenger's video. I suggest this because if it works ok then the problem is not your basic network connectivity etc. I don't know how to use Yahoo that's why I have iChat and Skype It's for the layamn. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
