Re: Noise in Grounding, wasRe: dead mdd 2003 psu

2012-03-01 Thread Geke
 there is a nethum,syntesizerlike splashes and fireworks and like automatic
 gunfire sounds that are so loud that u can not here the sound you are
 workin on.

Did you try shielding the audio leads? Every computer produces
interference, and your description of the noises sounds a bit like
that. You could try putting the amplifier further away from the Mac,
and if that is not enough, outputting the sound through USB to a sound
device positioned close to the amplifier.

For the others: these fireworks and such are only audible on high
amplification levels!

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Re: Noise in Grounding, wasRe: dead mdd 2003 psu

2012-03-01 Thread Jörg Duurkoop
Hi Wayne,

   the model i want to use it in is the 1.25 mhz year 2003 167 mhz bus 400
  fw,

 i was supposed to use this mdd for soundripping editing cleaning etc, all
 the macs have had some backgroundnoise on the sound out when moving cursor,
 using psu power,
 and it leaks through the system ground so that it will affect all other
 connected soundouts,
 on the system, the amp is an old revox a 50

 someone said that you need to leave a cable connected in the mini jack, but
 that produces only a small effect

 there is a nethum,syntesizerlike splashes and fireworks and like automatic
 gunfire sounds that are so loud that u can not here the sound you are
 workin on.

 is the mdd the shitty last attempt that apple then gave up or what, ?'

I have a similar problem with my MDD but I noticed it only when I
changed my monitor. I have a nice HD Samsung digital TV as a monitor
now and the sounds you describe come out of its speakers - I have my
system sounds from the speakers, connected to the sound out minijack
and the main sound out from a M-Audio Revolution 7.1 digital output to
my hi-end stereo set. When it's very late I switch the main sound to
the Samsung's speakers, too.

I noticed the sounds (they remind me of a video arcade far away) after
I installed the optional CHUD controls with which I switch off one of
the CPUs of my MDD. It's a good thing because I listen mostly to AIFFs
from my harddisks and the dual MDD's fans can get too noisy when
listening to low volume music.

Another funny thing is that the chattering sounds sometimes disappear
when I bring another app to the front like my Camino browser and then
they start again when I bring another app in front of the browser ...

It's a ghost in the machine :-)

I love my MDD, otherwise.  I'm running Tiger and sometimes Panther
when I want to use older Adobe apps under Classic. Their newer stuff
is bloatware and even opening a simple page in Illustrator takes ages
on a dual MDD 1.25, I still use CS2.

I'm a bit disappointed in Apple, have been using Macs from 1990 as a
graphic designer and nowadays all I see are lifestyle gadgets with
the Apple logo. But I'm an old man now ;-)

 apart from the noisy fans, that do not disturb me while using headphones

I also use headphones sometimes, a Stax Lambda Nova Signature set and
love it. Also great with movies, the M-Audio Rev card has a nice fake
surround setting - if I get it to work. The Mac drivers for that card
are total crap, the upgraded ones are even worse.

When I saw M-Audio ads in recording magazines the guys always used
Macs :-) Go figure ...

Good luck, Jörg.

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Re: Noise in Grounding, wasRe: dead mdd 2003 psu

2012-03-01 Thread Jörg Duurkoop
Hi Wayne,

   the model i want to use it in is the 1.25 mhz year 2003 167 mhz bus 400
  fw,

 i was supposed to use this mdd for soundripping editing cleaning etc, all
 the macs have had some backgroundnoise on the sound out when moving cursor,
 using psu power,
 and it leaks through the system ground so that it will affect all other
 connected soundouts,
 on the system, the amp is an old revox a 50

 someone said that you need to leave a cable connected in the mini jack, but
 that produces only a small effect

 there is a nethum,syntesizerlike splashes and fireworks and like automatic
 gunfire sounds that are so loud that u can not here the sound you are
 workin on.

 is the mdd the shitty last attempt that apple then gave up or what, ?'

I have a similar problem with my MDD but I noticed it only when I
changed my monitor. I have a nice HD Samsung digital TV as a monitor
now and the sounds you describe come out of its speakers - I have my
system sounds from the speakers, connected to the sound out minijack
and the main sound out from a M-Audio Revolution 7.1 digital output to
my hi-end stereo set. When it's very late I switch the main sound to
the Samsung's speakers, too.

I noticed the sounds (they remind me of a video arcade far away) after
I installed the optional CHUD controls with which I switch off one of
the CPUs of my MDD. It's a good thing because I listen mostly to AIFFs
from my harddisks and the dual MDD's fans can get too noisy when
listening to low volume music.

Another funny thing is that the chattering sounds sometimes disappear
when I bring another app to the front like my Camino browser and then
they start again when I bring another app in front of the browser ...

It's a ghost in the machine :-)

I love my MDD, otherwise.  I'm running Tiger and sometimes Panther
when I want to use older Adobe apps under Classic. Their newer stuff
is bloatware and even opening a simple page in Illustrator takes ages
on a dual MDD 1.25, I still use CS2.

I'm a bit disappointed in Apple, have been using Macs from 1990 as a
graphic designer and nowadays all I see are lifestyle gadgets with
the Apple logo. But I'm an old man now ;-)

 apart from the noisy fans, that do not disturb me while using headphones

I also use headphones sometimes, a Stax Lambda Nova Signature set and
love it. Also great with movies, the M-Audio Rev card has a nice fake
surround setting - if I get it to work. The Mac drivers for that card
are total crap, the upgraded ones are even worse.

When I saw M-Audio ads in recording magazines the guys always used
Macs :-) Go figure ...

Good luck, Jörg.

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Re: Noise in Grounding, wasRe: dead mdd 2003 psu

2012-03-01 Thread Martin N

Lo,

At 13:41 01/03/2012, you wrote:

Hi Wayne,

   the model i want to use it in is the 1.25 mhz year 2003 167 mhz bus 400
  fw,

 i was supposed to use this mdd for soundripping editing cleaning etc, all
 the macs have had some backgroundnoise on the sound out when moving cursor,
 using psu power,
 and it leaks through the system ground so that it will affect all other
 connected soundouts,
 on the system, the amp is an old revox a 50



snip


I also use headphones sometimes, a Stax Lambda Nova Signature set and
love it. Also great with movies, the M-Audio Rev card has a nice fake
surround setting - if I get it to work. The Mac drivers for that card
are total crap, the upgraded ones are even worse.



Stax?

Are those the electrostatic ear speakers that look like something a WWII
pilot used to wear?

Serious money, you must really be into your music to buy them.
The best head phones i bought were my sennheiser HD 650 ovation II back
in 1992 for £130.
I sadly cannot find any headphones with velvet cushions like those beauties.

Martin N

Mac Mini, Moderator of MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups


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Noise in Grounding, wasRe: dead mdd 2003 psu

2012-02-29 Thread k l
2012/1/4 Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com

 All the MDD power supplies are interchangeable.

 On Jan 4, 4:00 am, k l prinsk...@gmail.com wrote:
  house fuse blows in  a sec when you attach the powerchord,
  my guess is the psu
 
  are the  psus interchangeable with older 2 x 867 mhz mdd psu ??
 
  the model i want to use it in is the 1.25 mhz year 2003 167 mhz bus 400
 fw,
 
  and a happy new year to all of you ...





I changed the psu and it works but .


i was supposed to use this mdd for soundripping editing cleaning etc, all
the macs have had some backgroundnoise on the sound out when moving cursor,
using psu power,
and it leaks through the system ground so that it will affect all other
connected soundouts,
on the system, the amp is an old revox a 50

someone said that you need to leave a cable connected in the mini jack, but
that produces only a small effect

there is a nethum,syntesizerlike splashes and fireworks and like automatic
gunfire sounds that are so loud that u can not here the sound you are
workin on.

is the mdd the shitty last attempt that apple then gave up or what, ?'

apart from the noisy fans, that do not disturb me while using headphones

but this cackling that i guess poor grounding - HOW TO FIX IT ???

i use system 9.22 for sound editing - protools and oasys soundcard and
built in sound, and the disturbance is all over - also in 10.4

 this problem was at a lesser degree also in my digital audio 466 mhz and
in my several pm 7600s

if i can not find an easy fix i am forced back to the slower DA - the one
now is 1.25 mhz

any input MUCH appreciated,

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Re: Noise in Grounding, wasRe: dead mdd 2003 psu

2012-02-29 Thread peterhaas

 This sounds more like the electrical circuits in the room where you're
 working are poorly grounded or floating.

If supplied from an ungrounded (two-wire) receptacle, the two lines will
float at about 60 volts above ground ... one half of the nominal 120 volt
line to neutral voltage.

The primary side of the switching PSU makes no assumption about this and
is perfectly fine with either grounded or floating input.

All it cares is that the two lines are 120 volts between them.

Indeed, the input voltage is first doubled to 325 volts dc and is
subsequently converted to +5, +3.2, +12 and -12 volts, as required.



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