Re: OMG I NEED HELP!
Problem solved: I re-installed Leopard. I checked the logs, it said it could not boot from leopard (the old copy of leopard i had before it crashed) because of a bad HDD. OMG really? So i went out and bought myself a new 80GB EIDE HDD. Btw, I did lose all of my old programs, but i can just download them. As for data backup, let's just say my 320GB SATA drive saved my butt. It had all my info and music fired up and ready to go. Aren't macs neat? You get this happening to you without the pain of losing data. I personally thank everyone who developed and made CCC and Time Machine for Mac OS X Leopard, because i truly owe you one for saving my trusty sawtooth from a barking snappy bad HDD. Well, lesson learned here. Don't wait for a HDD to fail! Back up your data every day if possible, and make sure everything is running smoothly. The funny thing is, is that the HDD had no signs of HDD failure until yesterday. I took it apart, and the entire disk was charred/scratched inside. How wonderful? Next time i'll think twice before buying Hard drives from Maxtor. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OMG I NEED HELP!
On Jun 17, 2010, at 12:10 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Problem solved: I re-installed Leopard. I checked the logs, it said it could not boot from leopard (the old copy of leopard i had before it crashed) because of a bad HDD. OMG really? So i went out and bought myself a new 80GB EIDE HDD. Btw, I did lose all of my old programs, but i can just download them. As for data backup, let's just say my 320GB SATA drive saved my butt. It had all my info and music fired up and ready to go. Aren't macs neat? You get this happening to you without the pain of losing data. I personally thank everyone who developed and made CCC and Time Machine for Mac OS X Leopard, because i truly owe you one for saving my trusty sawtooth from a barking snappy bad HDD. Well, lesson learned here. Don't wait for a HDD to fail! Back up your data every day if possible, and make sure everything is running smoothly. The funny thing is, is that the HDD had no signs of HDD failure until yesterday. I took it apart, and the entire disk was charred/scratched inside. How wonderful? Next time i'll think twice before buying Hard drives from Maxtor. Didn't Maxtor go belly up a few years back? JT Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c19e033605bb4069f3st06duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OMG I NEED HELP!
On 6/17/10 1:48 AM, James Therrault wrote: On Jun 17, 2010, at 12:10 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: *snip* failure until yesterday. I took it apart, and the entire disk was charred/scratched inside. How wonderful? Next time i'll think twice before buying Hard drives from Maxtor. Pics! Pics! (I collect pictures of dead and fried kit. It amuses me for some reason) Didn't Maxtor go belly up a few years back? No, they were bought by Seagate for their 'value line' or some such usage, not that I see any reference to the brand on the Seagate web site. Personal theory is that Seagate bought the company and buried the brand when they found out that their rep was roughly equivalent to e Machines or the old Packard Bell. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OMG I NEED HELP!
At 3:48 AM -0500 6/17/2010, James Therrault wrote: Didn't Maxtor go belly up a few years back? They were assimilated by Seagate. Seagate now uses the Maxtor name to brand their lower-end drives. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OMG I NEED HELP!
On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:23 AM, Justin The Cynical wrote: On 6/17/10 1:48 AM, James Therrault wrote: On Jun 17, 2010, at 12:10 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: *snip* failure until yesterday. I took it apart, and the entire disk was charred/scratched inside. How wonderful? Next time i'll think twice before buying Hard drives from Maxtor. Pics! Pics! (I collect pictures of dead and fried kit. It amuses me for some reason) Didn't Maxtor go belly up a few years back? No, they were bought by Seagate for their 'value line' or some such usage, not that I see any reference to the brand on the Seagate web site. Personal theory is that Seagate bought the company and buried the brand when they found out that their rep was roughly equivalent to e Machines or the old Packard Bell. That would meet my expectations for goin' belly up. Also, there was a time years ago that Seagate was know for producing POS... JT FX Futures Vs. Cash FX Trade Cash FX? It#39;s time to look at FX Futures. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c1a3ed78b821786a7st03duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Jun 17, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Dan wrote: At 3:48 AM -0500 6/17/2010, James Therrault wrote: Didn't Maxtor go belly up a few years back? They were assimilated by Seagate. Seagate now uses the Maxtor name to brand their lower-end drives. I remember something of the sort as the original Maxtors had high failure rates. Count two of those in my history. Don't know how old you are but in the late 1980's/early 1990's, Seagate was producing a lot of junk as well. Back then IIRC, Quantum was the brand to get... Never had a failure with one of those. JT (Who started out with a Mac II) $653/Month for $150,000 Mortgage! Free Quotes. No SSN or Credit Check. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c1a407b82a09442106st02duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OMG I NEED HELP!
At 10:39 AM -0500 6/17/2010, James Therrault wrote: Didn't Maxtor go belly up a few years back? They were assimilated by Seagate. Seagate now uses the Maxtor name to brand their lower-end drives. I remember something of the sort as the original Maxtors had high failure rates. Count two of those in my history. Don't know how old you are but in the late 1980's/early 1990's, Seagate was producing a lot of junk as well. Back then IIRC, Quantum was the brand to get... Never had a failure with one of those. Like most of the drive manufacturers, they had a spell of having to deal with the fallout from bad glue. The stuff would dry, crack, flake - and cause head crashes. Seagate is once again the primo brand. Maxtor is now simply their lower-end model line. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OMG I NEED HELP!
On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:39 AM -0500 6/17/2010, James Therrault wrote: Didn't Maxtor go belly up a few years back? They were assimilated by Seagate. Seagate now uses the Maxtor name to brand their lower-end drives. I remember something of the sort as the original Maxtors had high failure rates. Count two of those in my history. Don't know how old you are but in the late 1980's/early 1990's, Seagate was producing a lot of junk as well. Back then IIRC, Quantum was the brand to get... Never had a failure with one of those. Like most of the drive manufacturers, they had a spell of having to deal with the fallout from bad glue. The stuff would dry, crack, flake - and cause head crashes. Seagate is once again the primo brand. Maxtor is now simply their lower-end model line. Yep, I've had two Seagates without issues and when it comes to drives, I can't see myself going with any low end model. Data is way to precious! JT Introducing KIN#8482; Learn About the New Microsoft KIN Social Media Phone. Watch a Video http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c1aa7929dad425813st04duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OMG I NEED HELP!
I had Mac OS X 10.5.8 on my PM G4, and I updated it to the 2010-004 security update. Since I had 3 Os's on my PM G4, it automatically booted up into Mac OS X Jaguar, and it told me to restart. Now I can't fix leopard and it loads up with the frey apple logo and spinning wheel for like forever! -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OMG I NEED HELP!
On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:58 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I had Mac OS X 10.5.8 on my PM G4, and I updated it to the 2010-004 security update. Since I had 3 Os's on my PM G4, it automatically booted up into Mac OS X Jaguar, and it told me to restart. Now I can't fix leopard and it loads up with the frey apple logo and spinning wheel for like forever! Reinstall and archiveLeopard. Then the update will follow. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OMG I NEED HELP!
At 1:58 AM -0400 6/16/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I had Mac OS X 10.5.8 on my PM G4, and I updated it to the 2010-004 security update. Since I had 3 Os's on my PM G4, it automatically booted up into Mac OS X Jaguar, and it told me to restart. Now I can't fix leopard and it loads up with the frey apple logo and spinning wheel for like forever! Boot into Safe Mode (shift key held down) to force the full rebuild of the kernel cache. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OMG I NEED HELP!
Well thats sound bad, weeks ago I have the same bad experience 2 times (lucky one)... But try the Start in Safe Mode this Way with your left hand (at the SAME TIME) three fingers over Key SHIFT, ALT (Apple Logo) and V push the Power ON (keep your fingers on until) and after few seconds your display turn black and the process of recover start...TAKE TIME ... a lot of information in your screen...if everything is goin OK your display need to show your MacOsx Desktop Picture if don't...start to remove every PCI card (Not the AGPGraphic Ok), printer or wherever is attach I include the 3 of the 4 stick of DDR (try to power ON with just 512). if still nothing happen well...Good luck On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: I had Mac OS X 10.5.8 on my PM G4, and I updated it to the 2010-004 security update. Since I had 3 Os's on my PM G4, it automatically booted up into Mac OS X Jaguar, and it told me to restart. Now I can't fix leopard and it loads up with the frey apple logo and spinning wheel for like forever! -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Jun 16, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Miguel Garcia Gell wrote: But try the Start in Safe Mode this Way with your left hand (at the SAME TIME) three fingers over Key SHIFT, ALT (Apple Logo) and V push the Power ON (keep your fingers on until) and after few seconds your display turn black and the process of recover start...TAKE TIME ... a lot of information in your screen... Starting in safe mode requires pressing just the shift key. Starting in Verbose Mode, requires pressing the command and V keys. You did both. IF pressing just the Shift key, keep pressing it until you see the spinnie starting up, -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OMG I NEED HELP!
this is bad. I used leopard assist to install leopard o my computer, and when i booted up into the leopard installer, it said that my HDD with leopard on it has bad sectors. The area which had bad sectors was quarantined into a different sector, and now, i lost all my data. My backups were on that hdd too. What a bummer. Yeah, thanks ALOT Mac OS X Jaguar! next time i'll consider installing you on a gabage can and see if you can crash that! G. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OMG I NEED HELP!
On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: this is bad. I used leopard assist to install leopard o my computer, and when i booted up into the leopard installer, it said that my HDD with leopard on it has bad sectors. The area which had bad sectors was quarantined into a different sector, and now, i lost all my data. My backups were on that hdd too. What a bummer. Yeah, thanks ALOT Mac OS X Jaguar! next time i'll consider installing you on a gabage can and see if you can crash that! G. Data Rescue 3 will I think save your butt. Also why use Leopard assist? CCC does it for me. You must have a somewhat modern machine? Or you're posting on a Windbloze If so I'm sorry too. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OMG I NEED HELP!
On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: The area which had bad sectors was quarantined into a different sector, and now, i lost all my data. My backups were on that hdd too. Never, EVER EVER treat a partition on the same drive as a 'backup'. You essentially had two copies of all your eggs in that one basket. Don't call it a backup, don't think of it as a backup and you won't get burned. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
