Re: Aliases?

2008-12-28 Thread Dan

At 11:33 AM -0600 12/28/2008, Stephen Conrad wrote:
Periodically I get what looks like a file name on the desktop or in
folders but when I click on it it then disappears.

What do the names look like?
What apps are running at the time?
And of course, the standard questions:  Mac, OS, etc...

Finder is so wonky with maintaining sync with the actual directories 
on disk... I've seen temp files show up then vanish quickly.  Mostly 
happens on slower Macs.  Haven't seen it happen on the Desktop since 
the last time I used Acrobat (instead of Preview) - l...@#$% Adobe 
crapware that was using Desktop for scratch files instead of the 
normal tmp directories etc.

  I ran Disk Utility and Repaired this HD's Permissions but it still happens.

What did you think repairing permissions would do?  That function 
takes a list of KNOWN system and application files and corrects the 
permissions on them - that's all.  It does NOTHING to files within 
/Users.  It does NOTHING towards repairing the file system itself. 
And worse, as we've said over and over... IF there is an error in a 
receipts file - which has happened repeatedly - then it puts the 
WRONG permissions on files, so it will actually BREAK things.

Repairing Permissions unnecessarily is like scrubbing your car with a 
wire brush.  It's not something you should do because the engine is 
running roughly.

HTH,
- Dan.
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Re: Aliases?

2008-12-28 Thread Stephen Conrad

On 12/28/08, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:

 At 11:33 AM -0600 12/28/2008, Stephen Conrad wrote:
Periodically I get what looks like a file name on the desktop or in
folders but when I click on it it then disappears.

 What do the names look like?
 What apps are running at the time?
 And of course, the standard questions:  Mac, OS, etc...

BW G3
10.2.8 (long story on why my 10.4.11 machine is not here yet)

Usually I have Firefox, Terminal, Yahoo! IM and TextEdit,
occassionally I also have Safari running

This is a newish thing that is happening.


 Finder is so wonky with maintaining sync with the actual directories
 on disk... I've seen temp files show up then vanish quickly.  Mostly
 happens on slower Macs.  Haven't seen it happen on the Desktop since
 the last time I used Acrobat (instead of Preview) - l...@#$% Adobe
 crapware that was using Desktop for scratch files instead of the
 normal tmp directories etc.

  I ran Disk Utility and Repaired this HD's Permissions but it still
 happens.

 What did you think repairing permissions would do?  That function
 takes a list of KNOWN system and application files and corrects the
 permissions on them - that's all.  It does NOTHING to files within
 /Users.  It does NOTHING towards repairing the file system itself.
 And worse, as we've said over and over... IF there is an error in a
 receipts file - which has happened repeatedly - then it puts the
 WRONG permissions on files, so it will actually BREAK things.

 Repairing Permissions unnecessarily is like scrubbing your car with a
 wire brush.  It's not something you should do because the engine is
 running roughly.

Well, it did say a bunch of stuff needed fixing.
Also, Yahoo! IM had reset to its own default permissions in a few
areas (like alerting me when I get mail up at Yahoo!, a function I had
turned off).


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Henrietta, MO 64036

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to go forth and claim our place in outer space.
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Re: Aliases?

2008-12-28 Thread Dan

At 12:11 PM -0600 12/28/2008, Stephen Conrad wrote:
On 12/28/08, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, it did say a bunch of stuff needed fixing.

Always does.

Also, Yahoo! IM had reset to its own default permissions in a few areas

Repair Permissions does not fix Yahoo's IM client.  That client, btw, 
is quite buggy - looses settings at the drop of a hat.

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Re: Aliases?

2008-12-28 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Dec 28, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:


 What do the names look like?
 What apps are running at the time?
 And of course, the standard questions:  Mac, OS, etc...

 BW G3
 10.2.8 (long story on why my 10.4.11 machine is not here yet)


This is a very VERY common issue with Finder pre-10.4.

It's easily demonstrated:

start Terminal, which will land you in your home directory.

type:

cd Desktop

and hit return. Now you have a terminal window open to the Desktop  
folder. type:

touch TestMe.txt

and hit return.

Watch while it takes Finder up to thirty or forty seconds to realize  
that a new file was created.

When it appears on the Desktop, go back into the terminal window and  
type:

rm TestMe.txt

And it will take as long for it to disappear.

Programs that create temp files where the original file is (Word is  
one culprit) will sometimes show filed flickering into life and then  
they're gone and still show on the Desktop.

If you've gone and enabled invisible files to be visible, this is even  
worse.

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Bruce Johnson

No matter where you go, there you are, B. Banzai


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Re: Aliases?

2008-12-28 Thread Stephen Conrad

On 12/28/08, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:


 On Dec 28, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:


 What do the names look like?
 What apps are running at the time?
 And of course, the standard questions:  Mac, OS, etc...

 BW G3
 10.2.8 (long story on why my 10.4.11 machine is not here yet)


 This is a very VERY common issue with Finder pre-10.4.

It never did it before. What you see is JUST the name of the file and
when you click on it it then disappears.

 If you've gone and enabled invisible files to be visible, this is even
 worse.

Haven't done this to the best of my knowledge.


-- 
Steve Conrad
Henrietta, MO 64036

The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind;
to go forth and claim our place in outer space.
   - Capt. Henry Gloval


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