Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error
On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/02/10 11:07, Bruce so eloquently wrote: So for instance if you had a folder called One, and inside that was a folder called Two, you can't move One into Two, because Two is inside One. So you'd have One inside Two, inside One, inside Two, inside One, inside Two. Somewhere Schrodinger's cat is crying. And it is not crying... at the same time. We'll never know. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error
On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Bruce wrote: Hello, According to: Mac OS System Error Codes: 0 to -261 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1618 HFS Errors -- -122 badMovErr Move into offspring error Note this is an ApplePMU error code not an OS X general error code. Different errors. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Bruce wrote: Hello, According to: Mac OS System Error Codes: 0 to -261 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1618 HFS Errors -- -122badMovErr Move into offspring error Note this is an ApplePMU error code not an OS X general error code. Different errors. Hello Bruce, I understand that now: Those error codes pertain to the classic Mac OS... Mac OS 9 and earlier. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. You are looking at a different set of codes. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway However, it did lead to an interesting discussion regarding Schrodinger's cat. Bruce Sugarberg -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error
So for instance if you had a folder called One, and inside that was a folder called Two, you can't move One into Two, because Two is inside One. So you'd have One inside Two, inside One, inside Two, inside One, inside Two. Somewhere Schrodinger's cat is crying. And it is not crying... at the same time. We'll never know. And yet we do know. At the same time. I am glad that error codes are somewhere you have to look for them in Mac OS X. I remember System 7.5.5 . Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anyone Want To Explain?
On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I came to use my computer and I saw it was still on. However, less than a minute later it shut itself off. I cannot see a reason in here (it happened at about 5:32 AM) Mac OS X 10.4.11 on an 800 MHz Quicksilver No USB devices hooked up except the KB and Mouse Am using the better of the 2 Video Cards It is set to NEVER sleep I'm guessing it's this. Feb 10 05:32:14 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 You can try resetting the PMU. Check Apple's docs to be sure but you should be able to do it using button on the motherboard. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anyone Want To Explain?
On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:00 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Am using the better of the 2 Video Cards Feb 10 05:32:20 steve-cs-power-mac-g4 kernel[0]: ATY,Rage128y: Not usable You might want to remove the Rage card if you're not using it now. It can waste power, and sometimes a non-Quartz Extreme card can disable Quartz Extreme for all video cards, so you might be suffering a slow down by having this old card in your Mac. You can test your Quartz Extreme using Quartz Extreme Check. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error
Clark Martin wrote: On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I came to use my computer and I saw it was still on. However, less than a minute later it shut itself off. I cannot see a reason in here (it happened at about 5:32 AM) Mac OS X 10.4.11 on an 800 MHz Quicksilver No USB devices hooked up except the KB and Mouse Am using the better of the 2 Video Cards It is set to NEVER sleep I'm guessing it's this. Feb 10 05:32:14 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 -- Hello, According to: Mac OS System Error Codes: 0 to -261 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1618 HFS Errors -- -122badMovErr Move into offspring error I did a search on badMovErr, and found this explanation: Posted: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 08:15PM What that error code means is that you've tried to move a folder into itself, or into something that's already inside it. So for instance if you had a folder called One, and inside that was a folder called Two, you can't move One into Two, because Two is inside One. So you'd have One inside Two, inside One, inside Two, inside One, inside Two. and so on and so forth. Same thing would happen if you tried to put One inside One, it would be a continuous loop of folders. So the system stops you doing things like that. JP. Apple Certified System Administrator The Mac Place - Macintosh Support, Consultancy, pithy Mac blog Comments anyone? How might this apply to Stephen's problem? Bruce -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error
On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Bruce wrote: Clark Martin wrote: On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I came to use my computer and I saw it was still on. However, less than a minute later it shut itself off. I cannot see a reason in here (it happened at about 5:32 AM) Mac OS X 10.4.11 on an 800 MHz Quicksilver No USB devices hooked up except the KB and Mouse Am using the better of the 2 Video Cards It is set to NEVER sleep I'm guessing it's this. Feb 10 05:32:14 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 To the OP, try doing a google search on cause = -122 (include the quotes). -- Hello, According to: Mac OS System Error Codes: 0 to -261 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1618 HFS Errors -- -122 badMovErr Move into offspring error I did a search on badMovErr, and found this explanation: Posted: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 08:15PM What that error code means is that you've tried to move a folder into itself, or into something that's already inside it. Er, THAT is not going to cause the PMU to force a shutdown (I sure hope it doesn't).You are looking at a different set of codes. So for instance if you had a folder called One, and inside that was a folder called Two, you can't move One into Two, because Two is inside One. So you'd have One inside Two, inside One, inside Two, inside One, inside Two. and so on and so forth. Same thing would happen if you tried to put One inside One, it would be a continuous loop of folders. So the system stops you doing things like that. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error
At 1:07 PM -0500 2/10/2011, Bruce wrote: According to: Mac OS System Error Codes: 0 to -261 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1618 [snip] The OP is running Mac OS X. Those error codes pertain to the classic Mac OS... Mac OS 9 and earlier. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anyone Want To Explain?
At 9:23 AM -0800 2/10/2011, Clark Martin wrote: On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I came to use my computer and I saw it was still on. However, less than a minute later it shut itself off. I cannot see a reason in here (it happened at about 5:32 AM) Mac OS X 10.4.11 on an 800 MHz Quicksilver No USB devices hooked up except the KB and Mouse Am using the better of the 2 Video Cards It is set to NEVER sleep I'm guessing it's this. Feb 10 05:32:14 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 And a -122 is a fairly generic code that indicates a power-related issue. You can try resetting the PMU. And reseat the power connectors. Make sure the fan(s) are working. Make sure there isn't any dust/dirt clogging things. If the problem persists, swapping out the power supply might be worth a shot. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error
On 2011/02/10 11:07, Bruce so eloquently wrote: So for instance if you had a folder called One, and inside that was a folder called Two, you can't move One into Two, because Two is inside One. So you'd have One inside Two, inside One, inside Two, inside One, inside Two. Somewhere Schrodinger's cat is crying. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list