Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error

2011-02-11 Thread Clark Martin

On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:48 PM, Tina K. wrote:

 On 2011/02/10 11:07, Bruce so eloquently wrote:
 So for instance if you had a folder called One, and inside that was a
 folder called Two, you can't move One into Two, because Two is inside
 One. So you'd have One inside Two, inside One, inside Two, inside One,
 inside Two.
 
 Somewhere Schrodinger's cat is crying.
 
And it is not crying... at the same time.  We'll never know.

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Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error

2011-02-11 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Bruce wrote:

 Hello,
 
 According to:
 
 Mac OS System Error Codes: 0 to -261
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1618
 
 HFS Errors
 --
 -122  badMovErr   Move into offspring error

Note this is an ApplePMU error code not an OS X general error code.

Different errors.
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Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error

2011-02-11 Thread Bruce



Bruce Johnson wrote:


On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Bruce wrote:


Hello,

According to:

Mac OS System Error Codes: 0 to -261
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1618

HFS Errors
--
-122badMovErr   Move into offspring error


Note this is an ApplePMU error code not an OS X general error code.

Different errors.



Hello Bruce,

I understand that now:

 Those error codes pertain to the classic Mac OS...  Mac OS 9 and
 earlier.

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 You are looking at a different set of codes.

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However, it did lead to an interesting discussion regarding Schrodinger's cat.

Bruce Sugarberg

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Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error

2011-02-11 Thread Sean Carroll
So for instance if you had a folder called One, and inside that  
was a
folder called Two, you can't move One into Two, because Two is  
inside
One. So you'd have One inside Two, inside One, inside Two, inside  
One,

inside Two.


Somewhere Schrodinger's cat is crying.


And it is not crying... at the same time.  We'll never know.


And yet we do know. At the same time.

I am glad that error codes are somewhere you have to look for them in  
Mac OS X. I remember System 7.5.5 .


Sean 


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Re: Anyone Want To Explain?

2011-02-10 Thread Clark Martin


On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:


I came to use my computer and I saw it was still on.
However, less than a minute later it shut itself off.
I cannot see a reason in here (it happened at about 5:32 AM)

Mac OS X 10.4.11 on an 800 MHz Quicksilver
No USB devices hooked up except the KB and Mouse
Am using the better of the 2 Video Cards
It is set to NEVER sleep


I'm guessing it's this.


Feb 10 05:32:14 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown,  
cause = -122



You can try resetting the PMU.  Check Apple's docs to be sure but   
you should be able to do it using button on the motherboard.


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Re: Anyone Want To Explain?

2011-02-10 Thread Kris Tilford

On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:00 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:


Am using the better of the 2 Video Cards


Feb 10 05:32:20 steve-cs-power-mac-g4 kernel[0]: ATY,Rage128y: Not  
usable


You might want to remove the Rage card if you're not using it now. It  
can waste power, and sometimes a non-Quartz Extreme card can disable  
Quartz Extreme for all video cards, so you might be suffering a slow  
down by having this old card in your Mac.


You can test your Quartz Extreme using Quartz Extreme Check.

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Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error

2011-02-10 Thread Bruce


Clark Martin wrote:


On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:


I came to use my computer and I saw it was still on.
However, less than a minute later it shut itself off.
I cannot see a reason in here (it happened at about 5:32 AM)

Mac OS X 10.4.11 on an 800 MHz Quicksilver
No USB devices hooked up except the KB and Mouse
Am using the better of the 2 Video Cards
It is set to NEVER sleep


I'm guessing it's this.


Feb 10 05:32:14 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown,
cause = -122


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Hello,

According to:

Mac OS System Error Codes: 0 to -261
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1618

HFS Errors
--
-122badMovErr   Move into offspring error


I did a search on badMovErr, and found this explanation:


Posted: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 08:15PM

What that error code means is that you've tried to move a folder into 
itself, or into something that's already inside it.


So for instance if you had a folder called One, and inside that was a 
folder called Two, you can't move One into Two, because Two is inside One. 
So you'd have One inside Two, inside One, inside Two, inside One, inside 
Two.


and so on and so forth.

Same thing would happen if you tried to put One inside One, it would be a 
continuous loop of folders. So the system stops you doing things like that.


JP.

Apple Certified System Administrator
The Mac Place - Macintosh Support, Consultancy,  pithy Mac blog


Comments anyone?  How might this apply to Stephen's problem?

Bruce

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Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error

2011-02-10 Thread Clark Martin

On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Bruce wrote:

 
 Clark Martin wrote:
 
 On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
 
 I came to use my computer and I saw it was still on.
 However, less than a minute later it shut itself off.
 I cannot see a reason in here (it happened at about 5:32 AM)
 
 Mac OS X 10.4.11 on an 800 MHz Quicksilver
 No USB devices hooked up except the KB and Mouse
 Am using the better of the 2 Video Cards
 It is set to NEVER sleep
 
 I'm guessing it's this.
 
 Feb 10 05:32:14 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown,
 cause = -122

To the OP, try doing a google search on cause = -122 (include the quotes). 

 
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 Hello,
 
 According to:
 
 Mac OS System Error Codes: 0 to -261
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1618
 
 HFS Errors
 --
 -122  badMovErr   Move into offspring error
 
 
 I did a search on badMovErr, and found this explanation:
 
 
 Posted: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 08:15PM  
 
 What that error code means is that you've tried to move a folder into itself, 
 or into something that's already inside it.

Er, THAT is not going to cause the PMU to force a shutdown (I sure hope it 
doesn't).You are looking at a different set  of codes.

 
 So for instance if you had a folder called One, and inside that was a folder 
 called Two, you can't move One into Two, because Two is inside One. So you'd 
 have One inside Two, inside One, inside Two, inside One, inside Two.
 
 and so on and so forth.
 
 Same thing would happen if you tried to put One inside One, it would be a 
 continuous loop of folders. So the system stops you doing things like that.


Clark Martin
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Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error

2011-02-10 Thread Dan

At 1:07 PM -0500 2/10/2011, Bruce wrote:

According to:

Mac OS System Error Codes: 0 to -261
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1618

[snip]

The OP is running Mac OS X.

Those error codes pertain to the classic Mac OS...  Mac OS 9 and 
earlier.


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Re: Anyone Want To Explain?

2011-02-10 Thread Dan

At 9:23 AM -0800 2/10/2011, Clark Martin wrote:

On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

I came to use my computer and I saw it was still on.
However, less than a minute later it shut itself off.
I cannot see a reason in here (it happened at about 5:32 AM)

Mac OS X 10.4.11 on an 800 MHz Quicksilver
No USB devices hooked up except the KB and Mouse
Am using the better of the 2 Video Cards
It is set to NEVER sleep


I'm guessing it's this.

Feb 10 05:32:14 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, 
cause = -122


And a -122 is a fairly generic code that indicates a power-related issue.


You can try resetting the PMU.


And reseat the power connectors.
Make sure the fan(s) are working.
Make sure there isn't any dust/dirt clogging things.

If the problem persists, swapping out the power supply might be worth a shot.

- Dan.
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Re: Anyone Want To Explain? + The -122 Error

2011-02-10 Thread Tina K.

On 2011/02/10 11:07, Bruce so eloquently wrote:

So for instance if you had a folder called One, and inside that was a
folder called Two, you can't move One into Two, because Two is inside
One. So you'd have One inside Two, inside One, inside Two, inside One,
inside Two.


Somewhere Schrodinger's cat is crying.

Tina

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