Re: G4 DA wireless woes
At 9:50 AM -0700 3/27/2009, Dana Collins wrote: Dig. Audio G4/733MHz w/ 1 Gig of RAM, OS 9.2.2 Actiontec MI424 Rev C On first boot of the DA's newly installed OS, Airport immediately recognized the ESSID of the router, and let me easily plug in the WEP password, set up a keychain, and launched connection with no problem - signal is clear as a bell. The Airport app shows that the unit is online for the network At 6:06 PM -0400 3/28/2009, Dana Collins wrote: Actiontec MI424 Rev C So... I went across the room to my G5 (running Leopard and connected via Ethernet) and read the following off of the Network SP panel: IP Address: 192.168.1.8 Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 Router: 192.168.1.1 DNS Server: 192.168.1.1 Search Domains: Home The screen snap shows these settings for your G5, but it's the wired Ethernet interface that's given preference. Does it show those same settings when you view the wireless settings? And does it work when you make that the preferred interface (either in software or by unplugging the cat5 cable from the G5)?. I then went to the TCP/IP control panel on the G4 DA (again, running OS 9.2.2), made sure to select Connect via to Airport, Configure manually, and copied the above information to the requisite fields, like so: IP Address: 192.168.1.x (x=another no. other than 8) Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 Router: 192.168.1.1 Name server address (I presume this was DNS Server) Search Domains: Home I then saved this configuration and attempted to run an internet connection (after I turned Airport on, of course), as mentioned earlier, this was no go. Ok, if that's right for your wireless network. After saving the settings under OS 9, you have to wait up to 5 minutes for it to complete the faux DHCP cycle. Or reboot... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 DA wireless woes
At 1:08 PM -0700 3/27/2009, Dana Collins wrote: Thanks for the reply. PM means...? Power Mac. Actiontec MI424 Rev C Any suggestions on how one checks these router settings? In the Wireless Settings pane of the router. Moot, really since you say you have an iBook that connects ok. I did a manual setting input, emulating a successful hard-wired IP setting copied from a G5 tower; its IP settings started with 192.xxx.x.x with a (I presume stock) subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and a router address of 192.xxx.x.1 - I was unsuccessful, and even TCP/IP balked at it. The details count; xxx.x means little. And it's those numbers being wrong that would prevent a manually address client computer from talking to the router. To know what IPs are valid, we have to look at the DHCP Server settings in your Actiontec router. Advanced IP Address Distribution Network (Home/Office). Tell us all the numbers therein. Or better - take a screen snap and send me that. Likewise show me the TCP/IP control panel on your Mac. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 DA wireless woes
On 3/28/09 12:27 PM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent At 1:08 PM -0700 3/27/2009, Dana Collins wrote: Thanks for the reply. PM means...? Power Mac. Actiontec MI424 Rev C Any suggestions on how one checks these router settings? In the Wireless Settings pane of the router. Moot, really since you say you have an iBook that connects ok. I did a manual setting input, emulating a successful hard-wired IP setting copied from a G5 tower; its IP settings started with 192.xxx.x.x with a (I presume stock) subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and a router address of 192.xxx.x.1 - I was unsuccessful, and even TCP/IP balked at it. The details count; xxx.x means little. And it's those numbers being wrong that would prevent a manually address client computer from talking to the router. To know what IPs are valid, we have to look at the DHCP Server settings in your Actiontec router. Advanced IP Address Distribution Network (Home/Office). Tell us all the numbers therein. Or better - take a screen snap and send me that. Likewise show me the TCP/IP control panel on your Mac. - Dan. Hi Dan, Thanks for the input, clarification, and offer to provide continuance of advice. I'll assemble the requested information and be back with you. In the meantime, I *can* provide a clearer description of what I *had* done on the G4 DA in the hopes of assembling (more accurately, mimicking) a correct IP address. Since the DA is the only OS 9 unit in the house, my only known-to-be-good connections, wireless and wired, are on OS X-run units. So... I went across the room to my G5 (running Leopard and connected via Ethernet) and read the following off of the Network SP panel: IP Address: 192.168.1.8 Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 Router: 192.168.1.1 DNS Server: 192.168.1.1 Search Domains: Home I then went to the TCP/IP control panel on the G4 DA (again, running OS 9.2.2), made sure to select Connect via to Airport, Configure manually, and copied the above information to the requisite fields, like so: IP Address: 192.168.1.x (x=another no. other than 8) Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 Router: 192.168.1.1 Name server address (I presume this was DNS Server) Search Domains: Home I then saved this configuration and attempted to run an internet connection (after I turned Airport on, of course), as mentioned earlier, this was no go. That's all for now until I get the additional information. Thanks very much for any help, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 DA wireless woes
At 9:50 AM -0700 3/27/2009, Dana Collins wrote: Dig. Audio G4/733MHz w/ 1 Gig of RAM, OS 9.2.2 On first boot of the DA's newly installed OS, Airport immediately recognized the ESSID of the router, and let me easily plug in the WEP password, set up a keychain, and launched connection with no problem - signal is clear as a bell. The Airport app shows that the unit is online for the network Good. and TCP/IP (set to Airport connection) generates an apparently good IP address (using DHCP-its a 169. series if that helps). Bad. The 169 address is self-assigned to indicate that the DHCP negotiation *failed*. Check the settings and logs in your router - make sure it's trying to talk to your PM. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 DA wireless woes
I ususally need to put a manual setting for the IP, subnet, and router to connect to my Verizon FIOS. On Mar 27, 12:50 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: Greetings all, This issue involves OS 9, so please chime in if you still have a penchant for the good ol' days. I have a Dig. Audio G4/733MHz w/ 1 Gig of RAM, deliberately back- pedaled to OS 9.2.2 for legacy app reasons (the only OS on the unit, no OS X at all). Its intended network interface is via wireless using Verizon's provided wireless router (Actiontec MI424 Rev C, if that needs be known) for our home network; the DA is attempting to connect using a known-to-work original Airport card. Wireless connectivity via this Airport card has been negotiated successfully with my G3 iBook running OS 10.4.11, so, all things being equal, this should be a go. On first boot of the DA's newly installed OS, Airport immediately recognized the ESSID of the router, and let me easily plug in the WEP password, set up a keychain, and launched connection with no problem - signal is clear as a bell. The Airport app shows that the unit is online for the network, and TCP/IP (set to Airport connection) generates an apparently good IP address (using DHCP-its a 169. series if that helps). Again, all appears well. Moment of truth, launching a browser (IE, Opera, Netscape, iCab), always results in a failure to communicate with the remote server - this is where I am at, despite trashing old preferences, zapping PRAM, et. al. Any thoughts? Should I do a manual IP configuration? Thanks for any input, sorry for the long-ish read. Best regards, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 DA wireless woes
On Mar 27, 2:14 pm, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: I ususally need to put a manual setting for the IP, subnet, and router to connect to my Verizon FIOS. Hi DC, I tried this, making sure TCP/IP was in basic mode, then copied/ emulated the same settings from a hard-wired networked tower that was online successfully. TCP/IP kept saying the settings were wrong (it did not like the router address starting with 192, insisting its address was 169, which, according to Dan, is by default wrong itself!). Thanks, Dana On Mar 27, 12:50 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: Greetings all, This issue involves OS 9, so please chime in if you still have a penchant for the good ol' days. I have a Dig. Audio G4/733MHz w/ 1 Gig of RAM, deliberately back- pedaled to OS 9.2.2 for legacy app reasons (the only OS on the unit, no OS X at all). Its intended network interface is via wireless using Verizon's provided wireless router (Actiontec MI424 Rev C, if that needs be known) for our home network; the DA is attempting to connect using a known-to-work original Airport card. Wireless connectivity via this Airport card has been negotiated successfully with my G3 iBook running OS 10.4.11, so, all things being equal, this should be a go. On first boot of the DA's newly installed OS, Airport immediately recognized the ESSID of the router, and let me easily plug in the WEP password, set up a keychain, and launched connection with no problem - signal is clear as a bell. The Airport app shows that the unit is online for the network, and TCP/IP (set to Airport connection) generates an apparently good IP address (using DHCP-its a 169. series if that helps). Again, all appears well. Moment of truth, launching a browser (IE, Opera, Netscape, iCab), always results in a failure to communicate with the remote server - this is where I am at, despite trashing old preferences, zapping PRAM, et. al. Any thoughts? Should I do a manual IP configuration? Thanks for any input, sorry for the long-ish read. Best regards, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 DA wireless woes
On Mar 27, 1:21 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:50 AM -0700 3/27/2009, Dana Collins wrote: Dig. Audio G4/733MHz w/ 1 Gig of RAM, OS 9.2.2 On first boot of the DA's newly installed OS, Airport immediately recognized the ESSID of the router, and let me easily plug in the WEP password, set up a keychain, and launched connection with no problem - signal is clear as a bell. The Airport app shows that the unit is online for the network Good. and TCP/IP (set to Airport connection) generates an apparently good IP address (using DHCP-its a 169. series if that helps). Bad. The 169 address is self-assigned to indicate that the DHCP negotiation *failed*. Check the settings and logs in your router - make sure it's trying to talk to your PM. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth Hi Dan, Thanks for the reply. PM means...? Any suggestions on how one checks (where one checks would probably be more accurate) these router settings? I did a manual setting input, emulating a successful hard- wired IP setting copied from a G5 tower; its IP settings started with 192.xxx.x.x with a (I presume stock) subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and a router address of 192.xxx.x.1 - I was unsuccessful, and even TCP/IP balked at it. No clue why it is giving me such trouble. -Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 DA wireless woes
Dana Collins wrote: *snip* On first boot of the DA's newly installed OS, Airport immediately recognized the ESSID of the router, and let me easily plug in the WEP password, set up a keychain, and launched connection with no problem - signal is clear as a bell. The Airport app shows that the unit is online for the network, and TCP/IP (set to Airport connection) generates an apparently good IP address (using DHCP-its a 169. series *snip* Any thoughts? Should I do a manual IP configuration? Thanks for any input, sorry for the long-ish read. No apologies needed, the amount of info you provided was very good. As Dan stated, the 169.x IP range is bad. From your description, this sounds a lot like an encryption key problem. In my experience, even if the wifi client has associated with the access point, it doesn't mean that the two are talking to each other. Easiest thing to try first is to statically assign an IP to the DA. This should help rule out a DHCP issue (which I have run into with OS 9). If the static IP assignment doesn't help, next thing I would try is to disable the encryption on the Actiontec and see if the DA and the Actiontec can talk to each other. Or check any logs that may be viewable in the Actiontec itself, there might be some clues in there as well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 DA wireless woes
On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:27 PM, Justin The Cynical wrote: Easiest thing to try first is to statically assign an IP to the DA. This is where you use static sparks for an IP. Remove your shoes, vigorously rub your socks on the carpet (or if you don't have carpet, you can vigorously rub a pet cat's fur, or perhaps faux fur?), and then cautiously reach toward the antennae of your wireless router with a single finger. IP every time! (and sometimes I scream too). ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
