Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800
Richard Gerome Oct 03 11:25AM -0400 ^ I say Apple's stock is high enough... Soup them up instead till you can't make them faster and keep up with the times anymore!!! -Original Message- From: Jonas Ulrich Sent: Oct 2, 2010 8:18 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800 Yeah those G4 towers rock. And there is a lot you can do to increase the performance. -Jonas As a hobby, maybe. But these G4s are plenty good enough as they are with some bigger HDs and a USB card and max RAM. But it would be an indulgence, not a practical wise thing to mess about with upgraded CPUs. -- dorayme -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800
I say Apple's stock is high enough... Soup them up instead till you can't make them faster and keep up with the times anymore!!!-Original Message- From: Jonas Ulrich Sent: Oct 2, 2010 8:18 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800 Yeah those G4 towers rock. And there is a lot you can do to increase the performance.-Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800
Yeah those G4 towers rock. And there is a lot you can do to increase the performance. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800
I just got the computer yesterday and all I have to say is WOW! The Powermac is 9 years old but it seems as fast as my 13" MacBook Pro. The only thing that I can't stand is the GPU. The seller stuck an ATI Rage 128 card in the computer so right now Leopard is out of the question. It looks fine on 10.4 though. On Sep 30, 11:19 am, Alex wrote: > Ok. I haven't bought the graphics card yet so I'll try to find that > one. Did you do the install from an Intel Mac? If you did that would > be the problem. > > On Sep 30, 11:12 am, Ashgrove wrote: > > > On Sep 28, 3:46 pm, Alex wrote: > > > > Ok, it is a Quicksilver model. And I'm getting an ATI Radeon 9600 card > > > from ebay. > > > Whatever you do, don't get a graphics card from somebody in China. I > > checked the prices and surprisingly the flashed Geforce 6200 have > > basically disappeared. If I were you, though, I would go with a Radeon > > 9800 Pro. It's better than the 9600 and you can find it for about the > > same price. > > > > If I do run Leopard I will try LeopardAssist for the > > > install, though I think it's weird that Apple will let a 867 MHz > > > single processor Quicksilver run Leopard but it won't let an 800 MHz > > > dual processor Quicksilver which gets much better benchmarks run > > > Leopard. > > > My thoughts exactly. Be prepared for quirks, though; I did a clean > > Leopard install from another computer using target disk mode, and my > > dual 800Mhz Quicksilver wouldn't boot from it. It, however, boots fine > > from a HDD with 10.5.8 on it... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800
Ok. I haven't bought the graphics card yet so I'll try to find that one. Did you do the install from an Intel Mac? If you did that would be the problem. On Sep 30, 11:12 am, Ashgrove wrote: > On Sep 28, 3:46 pm, Alex wrote: > > > Ok, it is a Quicksilver model. And I'm getting an ATI Radeon 9600 card > > from ebay. > > Whatever you do, don't get a graphics card from somebody in China. I > checked the prices and surprisingly the flashed Geforce 6200 have > basically disappeared. If I were you, though, I would go with a Radeon > 9800 Pro. It's better than the 9600 and you can find it for about the > same price. > > > If I do run Leopard I will try LeopardAssist for the > > install, though I think it's weird that Apple will let a 867 MHz > > single processor Quicksilver run Leopard but it won't let an 800 MHz > > dual processor Quicksilver which gets much better benchmarks run > > Leopard. > > My thoughts exactly. Be prepared for quirks, though; I did a clean > Leopard install from another computer using target disk mode, and my > dual 800Mhz Quicksilver wouldn't boot from it. It, however, boots fine > from a HDD with 10.5.8 on it... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800
On Sep 28, 3:46 pm, Alex wrote: > Ok, it is a Quicksilver model. And I'm getting an ATI Radeon 9600 card > from ebay. Whatever you do, don't get a graphics card from somebody in China. I checked the prices and surprisingly the flashed Geforce 6200 have basically disappeared. If I were you, though, I would go with a Radeon 9800 Pro. It's better than the 9600 and you can find it for about the same price. > If I do run Leopard I will try LeopardAssist for the > install, though I think it's weird that Apple will let a 867 MHz > single processor Quicksilver run Leopard but it won't let an 800 MHz > dual processor Quicksilver which gets much better benchmarks run > Leopard. My thoughts exactly. Be prepared for quirks, though; I did a clean Leopard install from another computer using target disk mode, and my dual 800Mhz Quicksilver wouldn't boot from it. It, however, boots fine from a HDD with 10.5.8 on it... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800
Ok, it is a Quicksilver model. And I'm getting an ATI Radeon 9600 card from ebay. If I do run Leopard I will try LeopardAssist for the install, though I think it's weird that Apple will let a 867 MHz single processor Quicksilver run Leopard but it won't let an 800 MHz dual processor Quicksilver which gets much better benchmarks run Leopard. On Sep 27, 9:38 pm, Jonas Ulrich wrote: > Dude, just google LeopardAssist. It isn't even real hacking and is the best > way to install Leopard on a G4 slower than 867MHZ in my opinion, and for > sure the easiest. I have used it several times and it works great. > > -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800
Dude, just google LeopardAssist. It isn't even real hacking and is the best way to install Leopard on a G4 slower than 867MHZ in my opinion, and for sure the easiest. I have used it several times and it works great. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800
Alex, If you don't want to bother with a hack, just stick in it a HDD with Leopard already installed. It'll work perfect. As for graphic cards, I'd go with a flashed Nvidia Geforce 6200, the fanless, 256MB version. They are inexpensive and work great. Best, Felix On Sep 27, 3:05 pm, Alex wrote: > I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800 on ebay. I want to know if it can > run Leopard without a hack and how powerful of a graphics card I can > put in it. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800
> > And yes, it is the fastest way, if you don't count the work to make a CCC > copy. For only one Power Mac the effort is propably more time consuming than > to install a fresh Mac OS X – provided you don't reinstall every week! > > p.s. yes, I've also got CCC images laying around… waiting to be used, to save > time… > Actually I find the Tiger CCC's a lot more handy as not to go through Java hell. I keep CCC's updated for all my systems so a scratch install is rare aroun here:-) But either way there is some time involved depending on the CCC size. John M Anaheim OC dadbe...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800 Date:Montag 27 September 2010N From:John Markowitz To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > If you have Leopard alredy installed on another PPC machine you can get it > on the 800 via CCC. That's the easy and fast way for me:-) A CCC copy of Mac OS X with all the latest updates (up to the point in time when the CCC copy was made) can always come in handy… And yes, it is the fastest way, if you don't count the work to make a CCC copy. For only one Power Mac the effort is propably more time consuming than to install a fresh Mac OS X – provided you don't reinstall every week! Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 p.s. yes, I've also got CCC images laying around… waiting to be used, to save time… -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800
On Sep 27, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: > -- Original message -- > Subject: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800 > Date:Montag 27 September 2010N > From:Alex > To: "G-Group" > >> I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800 on ebay. I want to know if it can >> run Leopard without a hack and how powerful of a graphics card I can If you have Leopard alredy installed on another PPC machine you can get it on the 800 via CCC. That's the easy and fast way for me:-) John M Anaheim OC dadbe...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800
-- Original message -- Subject: I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800 Date:Montag 27 September 2010N From:Alex To: "G-Group" > I just bought a Powermac G4 dual 800 on ebay. I want to know if it can > run Leopard without a hack and how powerful of a graphics card I can > put in it. If you refer to a Quicksilver 2001, the Dual-800 model: I've got the same. Is there another Dual-800 around? I can't come up with one… Anyway, to answer your questions: 1) No, Leopard checks the CPU frequency for at least 867 MHz, otherwise it won't let you continue with the installation. Once installed, it will work just fine. There is a hack around, which is not so hard to accomplish. Just don't be afraid, and take your time. It may take you 10 minutes or so to accomplish it, but once you start up the Leopard installation DVD and get on with the installation routine, you don't have to bother about it any longer. Here the link: http://lowendmac.com/osx/leopard/openfirmware.html 2) You can put in any AGP graphics card, as long as it is a “Mac Edition”. You cannot use PC graphics cards (at least not without flashing, which is not so easy anyhow). One of the fastest is maybe an ATi Radeon X800 from the later Power Mac G5 models, but not the last Power Mac G5 “Late 2005”, since it introduced PCI-Express in favor of AGP. The G5s use AGPx8 which cannot coexist with ADC support, so you'll have to disable Pin 3 and 11 (see link) for any AGPx4 Power Mac that features ADC, i.e. most of the Power Mac G4's. Here the link: http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11 If you don't want that, you can use any AGP graphics card that features ADC, which will be AGPx4. Hope that helped. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
