Re: Quicksilver Issue
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
> On Oct 17, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>
> > OK, my machine just shut down and when I fired it back up this is what
> was
> > sent to Apple
> > In plain english what is the issue
> >
> >
> > Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
> > com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI(2.5.5)@0x49b000
> >dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(2.8.1)@0x467000
> >dependency:com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x491000
>
> It appears to be a problem with a USB device or port, or possibly a USB PCI
> card, if you have one. (I believe that the onboard USB ports also make use
> of IOPCIFamily, too, although I'm not positive.)
>
> The crash happened in the usb driver :
>
> com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI
>
> The dependencies are system libraries that the USB driver was using at the
> time of the crash:
>
> com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily
> com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily
>
> What were you doing when it happened? What USB devices were plugged in?
>
>
The one port has the following:
USB KB (which has the Mouse and a Targus Card Reader which has a
CompactFlash Card (FC-32M) in it.
The other port has the following:
4 Port Hub which has a USB Flash Drive, 2 Digital Cameras (one is plugged in
to a power cord and the other is not always plugged into the USB Hub) and a
USB 4-Port Hub. This 2nd Hub has 3 USB Flash Drives and another 4 Port USB
2.0 Hub. NOW, this 3rd Hub has a power cord and only has 2 USB Flash Drives
in it (I think the other 2 ports have died).
The 2nd USB Hub needs a DC5V Power Cord (none of my cords fit it)
The camera with no power cord does not have any place to plug one in.
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Re: Quicksilver Issue
On Oct 17, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: > OK, my machine just shut down and when I fired it back up this is what was > sent to Apple > In plain english what is the issue > > > Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies): > com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI(2.5.5)@0x49b000 >dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(2.8.1)@0x467000 >dependency:com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x491000 It appears to be a problem with a USB device or port, or possibly a USB PCI card, if you have one. (I believe that the onboard USB ports also make use of IOPCIFamily, too, although I'm not positive.) The crash happened in the usb driver : com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI The dependencies are system libraries that the USB driver was using at the time of the crash: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily What were you doing when it happened? What USB devices were plugged in? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver issue
Try unplugging all the USB stuff. I eventually figured out that my
wireless keyboard was causing my Mac to randomly wake up from sleep.
It also happened with a Logitech wireless mouse but the latest
Logitech software update seems to have solved that for me.
On Oct 7, 3:35 pm, Stephen Conrad wrote:
> Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz)
> 1.5 GB SDRAM
>
> 3 HD, 1 CD-ROM
> USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital Camera
> plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB
>
> Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also has a cord
> to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged into it. (I need a 5V
> cord to power this thing and cannot find one)
> Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it,
>
> KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse
>
> PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine
>
> When I am away it randomly shuts down.
> It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver
>
> Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down
>
> Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was inside (I
> will get a new can of air today) and under the tower.
>
> What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently (never with
> the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many more HDs hooked up
> (externally but same power strip)
> --
> Steve Conrad
> Henrietta, MO 64036
>
> "The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go
> forth and claim our place in outer space."
> - Capt. Henry Gloval
>
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Re: Quicksilver issue
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Tina K. wrote:
> On 2010/10/07 20:37, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>
>> As for a new PS, I'd have no idea how to install one.
>>
>
> It's pretty simple really, you could say that it's plug 'n play. The
> biggest issue is making sure the connector 'latch' is released before you
> pull the connector away from the logic board. Besides that is just the
> physical mounting of the PSU.
>
Never replaced a PSU in anything
>
> If you've ever replaced an electronic ignition box in a car the process is
> very similar.
>
I have a mechanic who works on my car
>
> And of course, make sure you are grounded to the computer chassis before
> touching anything.
>
This goes without saying
Charles Lenington
How old is the pram battery?
No idea, I got the G4 off the LEM Swap List
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Re: Quicksilver issue
On 2010/10/07 20:37, Stephen Conrad wrote: As for a new PS, I'd have no idea how to install one. It's pretty simple really, you could say that it's plug 'n play. The biggest issue is making sure the connector 'latch' is released before you pull the connector away from the logic board. Besides that is just the physical mounting of the PSU. If you've ever replaced an electronic ignition box in a car the process is very similar. And of course, make sure you are grounded to the computer chassis before touching anything. Tina -- iMac 20" USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15" Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver issue
On 10/7/10 8:33 PM, James Morgan wrote: My MDD G4's also only shut down when I was not using them. But after a while they began to occasionally refuse to start. Got a glowing light in the start button when I pushed it but no start. This progressed to no starting at all. The shutting down on it's own was the beginning of the end. I went through guilt trips. I thought maybe I had not kept the G4's clean enough and had overheated them. Ect. Then I found out the power supply in the MDD G4's have issues and it wasn't my fault. I don't know of any way to check to see if it is a failing power supply but I certainly recommend that you back up your entire computer to an external hard drive. And start watching for a good used power supply. How old is the pram battery? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver issue
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:33 PM, James Morgan wrote:
> My MDD G4's also only shut down when I was not using them. But after a
> while they began to occasionally refuse to start. Got a glowing light in the
> start button when I pushed it but no start. This progressed to no starting
> at all. The shutting down on it's own was the beginning of the end.
>
> I went through guilt trips. I thought maybe I had not kept the G4's clean
> enough and had overheated them. Ect. Then I found out the power supply in
> the MDD G4's have issues and it wasn't my fault.
>
> I don't know of any way to check to see if it is a failing power supply
> but I certainly recommend that you back up your entire computer to an
> external hard drive. And start watching for a good used power supply.
>
Well, it will start up but sometimes I need to unplug the USB drives to get
it to see the main HD (as the start-up HD I do believe)
As for a new PS, I'd have no idea how to install one.
>
> =
>
> On Oct 7, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:36 PM, James Morgan wrote:
>
>> On my MDD G4's one of the early symptoms of the failing power supply was
>> that the computer would just unexpectedly shut down.
>>
>
> Well, this only happens when I am not using it.
> Any way to check (that does not involve paying someone)?
>
> I am looking for a nice multi-tip power cord so I can plug in the other
> hub.
> Walmart used to sell them but the only ones they sell now are for use in
> your car, you plug them into your cigarette lighter.
>
>>
>>
>> ==
>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>>
>> Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz)
>> 1.5 GB SDRAM
>>
>> 3 HD, 1 CD-ROM
>> USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital Camera
>> plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB
>>
>> Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also has a
>> cord to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged into it. (I need a
>> 5V cord to power this thing and cannot find one)
>> Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it,
>>
>> KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse
>>
>> PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine
>>
>> When I am away it randomly shuts down.
>> It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver
>>
>> Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down
>>
>> Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was inside (I
>> will get a new can of air today) and under the tower.
>>
>> What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently (never with
>> the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many more HDs hooked up
>> (externally but same power strip)
>> --
>> Steve Conrad
>> Henrietta, MO 64036
>>
>> "The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to
>> go forth and claim our place in outer space."
>>- Capt. Henry Gloval
>>
>>
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Re: Quicksilver issue
My MDD G4's also only shut down when I was not using them. But after
a while they began to occasionally refuse to start. Got a glowing
light in the start button when I pushed it but no start. This
progressed to no starting at all. The shutting down on it's own was
the beginning of the end.
I went through guilt trips. I thought maybe I had not kept the G4's
clean enough and had overheated them. Ect. Then I found out the power
supply in the MDD G4's have issues and it wasn't my fault.
I don't know of any way to check to see if it is a failing power
supply but I certainly recommend that you back up your entire
computer to an external hard drive. And start watching for a good
used power supply.
=
On Oct 7, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:36 PM, James Morgan wrote:
On my MDD G4's one of the early symptoms of the failing power
supply was that the computer would just unexpectedly shut down.
Well, this only happens when I am not using it.
Any way to check (that does not involve paying someone)?
I am looking for a nice multi-tip power cord so I can plug in the
other hub.
Walmart used to sell them but the only ones they sell now are for
use in your car, you plug them into your cigarette lighter.
==
On Oct 7, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz)
1.5 GB SDRAM
3 HD, 1 CD-ROM
USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital
Camera plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB
Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also
has a cord to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged
into it. (I need a 5V cord to power this thing and cannot find one)
Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it,
KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse
PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine
When I am away it randomly shuts down.
It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver
Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down
Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was
inside (I will get a new can of air today) and under the tower.
What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently
(never with the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many
more HDs hooked up (externally but same power strip)
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Re: Quicksilver issue
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:36 PM, James Morgan wrote:
> On my MDD G4's one of the early symptoms of the failing power supply was
> that the computer would just unexpectedly shut down.
>
Well, this only happens when I am not using it.
Any way to check (that does not involve paying someone)?
I am looking for a nice multi-tip power cord so I can plug in the other hub.
Walmart used to sell them but the only ones they sell now are for use in
your car, you plug them into your cigarette lighter.
>
>
> ==
> On Oct 7, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>
> Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz)
> 1.5 GB SDRAM
>
> 3 HD, 1 CD-ROM
> USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital Camera
> plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB
>
> Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also has a
> cord to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged into it. (I need a
> 5V cord to power this thing and cannot find one)
> Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it,
>
> KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse
>
> PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine
>
> When I am away it randomly shuts down.
> It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver
>
> Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down
>
> Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was inside (I
> will get a new can of air today) and under the tower.
>
> What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently (never with
> the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many more HDs hooked up
> (externally but same power strip)
> --
> Steve Conrad
> Henrietta, MO 64036
>
> "The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to
> go forth and claim our place in outer space."
>- Capt. Henry Gloval
>
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Re: Quicksilver issue
On my MDD G4's one of the early symptoms of the failing power supply
was that the computer would just unexpectedly shut down.
==
On Oct 7, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:
Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz)
1.5 GB SDRAM
3 HD, 1 CD-ROM
USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital
Camera plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB
Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also
has a cord to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged
into it. (I need a 5V cord to power this thing and cannot find one)
Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it,
KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse
PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine
When I am away it randomly shuts down.
It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver
Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down
Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was
inside (I will get a new can of air today) and under the tower.
What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently
(never with the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many
more HDs hooked up (externally but same power strip)
--
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Henrietta, MO 64036
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Re: Quicksilver issue
-- Original message -- Subject: Quicksilver issue Date:Donnerstag 07 Oktober 2010N From:Stephen Conrad To: "g3-5-list" > Mac: G4 Quicksilver (800 MHz) > 1.5 GB SDRAM Mine is a Power Mac G3 B&W 350 MHz PCI 1.0 GB SDRAM > 3 HD, 1 CD-ROM 1 HD, 1 CD-ROM > USB Ports have 5 USB sticks, a Memory Card and my Olmpus Digital Camera > plugged into them (see below for detail) plus the KB I use a USB 2.0 PCI card in addition to the two USB 1.x ports. The keyboard is connected to one USB 1.x port, the mouse is connected to the second USB 1.x board. > Back of the Mac has a port which has 1 card plus the Olypus. Also has a > cord to a non-Powered Hub. This has a Powered Hub plugged into it. (I need > a 5V cord to power this thing and cannot find one) I have a powered hub connected to one USB 2.0 port of the USB PCI card. The power cable is not plugged into the hub though for reasons … read on! > Powered Hub has 2 USB Sticks plugged into it, > > KP has the Memory Card and my Logitech USB Mouse My hub has an external 2.5" hard disk plugged into it or a memory sick or two or three… > PROBLEM: First off, this NEVER happens when I use the machine > > When I am away it randomly shuts down. > It is NOT set to sleep under Energy Saver > > Under System Preferences I see nothing about shutting down My PROBLEM: The Power Mac doesn't even start when I press the button IF the hub is connected to its 5V external power unit. If I unplug it, it starts just fine (with a chime…). > Now, I blew out (with me providing the air) what little dust was inside (I > will get a new can of air today) and under the tower. I did that too. > What else can I do? I have not had this problem until recently (never with > the Smurf or previous machines, some of which had many more HDs hooked up > (externally but same power strip) No idea. When it comes to USB stuff some computers act just strangely. I had a laptop that rebooted reproducibly if I touchted the USB port with an external USB device – must have shorted some circuit or something. No damage done, just lost all unsaved files :-( But if you find something: I'm interested too! I know that was no help at all… Sorry. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
