Re: keychain G4 question

2008-12-08 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:34 PM, joe wrote:

>
> Will it then automatically start another login keychain next time she
> logs in?  And from then on, she should be able to save passwords
> (like from Mail or whatever) in the keychain using the login password
> that I recently reset using the install disk?

Yes. This is a common problem when changing the password via the  
installer utility.

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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
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Re: keychain G4 question

2008-12-08 Thread joe

On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:00 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

>> Sorry I wasn't very clear.  It's a clean OS install (just one that I
>> didn't do).  There's nothing stored in keychain right now.  The
>> trouble is that I can't begin to use it for storing passwords without
>> the keychain password itself to unlock it.  I thought that just used
>> the admin password or user password, but it doesn't.  I re-set the
>> admin password (the only account) using the install disk, but I can't
>> unlock Keychain.
>
> Clark's advice is still dead on. Delete the login keychain, which you
> can do without unlocking it.

OK--I'll have my friend try this.  When I was there and opened the  
Keychain Access app, there was nothing in the main panel, but now I  
realize that I wasn't looking in the "keychains" panel.  If there's a  
locked login there, I'll tell my friend to delete that.

Will it then automatically start another login keychain next time she  
logs in?  And from then on, she should be able to save passwords  
(like from Mail or whatever) in the keychain using the login password  
that I recently reset using the install disk?

Thanks!

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http://joethejuggler.com
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Re: keychain G4 question

2008-12-08 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Dec 7, 2008, at 8:29 PM, joe wrote:

> Sorry I wasn't very clear.  It's a clean OS install (just one that I
> didn't do).  There's nothing stored in keychain right now.  The
> trouble is that I can't begin to use it for storing passwords without
> the keychain password itself to unlock it.  I thought that just used
> the admin password or user password, but it doesn't.  I re-set the
> admin password (the only account) using the install disk, but I can't
> unlock Keychain.

Clark's advice is still dead on. Delete the login keychain, which you  
can do without unlocking it.

You can also create a new admin user to make sure your admin account  
has that fresh new account smell and no weird stuff linked to old  
passwords.

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College of Pharmacy
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Re: keychain G4 question

2008-12-08 Thread Michael B. in Cincinnati

Joe, I had a similar problem when I installed 10.4 on my DA. I ended
up just
clicking on the keychain dialog box with no password entered, and it
accepted
that. I added a separate password for keychain later, but I'd have to
fiddle around
in the dialog boxes to remember how I did that.

Keychain is a separate application from the main OS sysadmin password,
and as
I recall, if you forget the Keychain password, you're stuck and lose
your passwords.
I don't know about 10.3, but you might try just clicking on the
keychain dialog box
on a lark and see if it works.
- Michael B. in Cincinnati

On Dec 7, 10:29 pm, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 7, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Clark Martin wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > joe wrote:
> >> I just set up a second hand G4 digital audio with OS X 10.3 already
> >> installed on it.  I used the install disk to reset the admin  
> >> password,
> >> but I didn't realize that the keychain password is also unknown to  
> >> me.
> >>  I can't unlock Keychain to put it to use.  (There's nothing there at
> >> this point--I just want to use it.)
>
> >> Is there any way to get or reset that password short of re-installing
> >> the OS?
>
> > Use the "Keychain Access" utility to delete the keychain file(s).  It
> > should work okay after that.
>
> > You might be better off just creating a whole new admin user and
> > deleting the old one, just to burn the gunk out.
>
> Sorry I wasn't very clear.  It's a clean OS install (just one that I  
> didn't do).  There's nothing stored in keychain right now.  The  
> trouble is that I can't begin to use it for storing passwords without  
> the keychain password itself to unlock it.  I thought that just used  
> the admin password or user password, but it doesn't.  I re-set the  
> admin password (the only account) using the install disk, but I can't  
> unlock Keychain.
>
> I hope I'm using the terminology correctly.  For example, I just set  
> up an account in Mail, and when you check mail you've got to re-enter  
> the password.  After you do so, a dialogue pops up asking if you want  
> to store it in Keychain--to do so you need to enter the Keychain  
> password (the admin account password I just reset doesn't work).
>
> Does that make sense?  (This is a computer I set up for someone else,  
> so I don't have quick access to it at the moment.)
>
> ==
>         Joe the Juggler
>         4148 Wyoming St.
>         St. Louis, MO 63116
>         (314) 771-3243
>        http://joethejuggler.com
> ==
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Re: keychain G4 question

2008-12-07 Thread joe

On Dec 7, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Clark Martin wrote:

>
> joe wrote:
>> I just set up a second hand G4 digital audio with OS X 10.3 already
>> installed on it.  I used the install disk to reset the admin  
>> password,
>> but I didn't realize that the keychain password is also unknown to  
>> me.
>>  I can't unlock Keychain to put it to use.  (There's nothing there at
>> this point--I just want to use it.)
>>
>> Is there any way to get or reset that password short of re-installing
>> the OS?
>
> Use the "Keychain Access" utility to delete the keychain file(s).  It
> should work okay after that.
>
>
> You might be better off just creating a whole new admin user and
> deleting the old one, just to burn the gunk out.
>
>
Sorry I wasn't very clear.  It's a clean OS install (just one that I  
didn't do).  There's nothing stored in keychain right now.  The  
trouble is that I can't begin to use it for storing passwords without  
the keychain password itself to unlock it.  I thought that just used  
the admin password or user password, but it doesn't.  I re-set the  
admin password (the only account) using the install disk, but I can't  
unlock Keychain.

I hope I'm using the terminology correctly.  For example, I just set  
up an account in Mail, and when you check mail you've got to re-enter  
the password.  After you do so, a dialogue pops up asking if you want  
to store it in Keychain--to do so you need to enter the Keychain  
password (the admin account password I just reset doesn't work).


Does that make sense?  (This is a computer I set up for someone else,  
so I don't have quick access to it at the moment.)

==
Joe the Juggler
4148 Wyoming St.
St. Louis, MO 63116
(314) 771-3243
http://joethejuggler.com
==




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Re: keychain G4 question

2008-12-07 Thread Clark Martin

joe wrote:
> I just set up a second hand G4 digital audio with OS X 10.3 already 
> installed on it.  I used the install disk to reset the admin password, 
> but I didn't realize that the keychain password is also unknown to me. 
>  I can't unlock Keychain to put it to use.  (There's nothing there at 
> this point--I just want to use it.)
> 
> Is there any way to get or reset that password short of re-installing 
> the OS?

Use the "Keychain Access" utility to delete the keychain file(s).  It 
should work okay after that.


You might be better off just creating a whole new admin user and 
deleting the old one, just to burn the gunk out.


-- 
Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

"I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway"

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