Re: mds 99%
>At 7:21 PM -0800 12/20/2008, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: Snip: > > >Does the: >> >>>sudo mdutil -i off /Volumes/* >>>sudo mdutil -E /Volumes/* >>>sudo mdutil -i on /Volumes/* >> >>fix the Un-mountable Volumes? > >No. Those commands only deal with the Spotlight indices on >functioning mounted volumes. Snip: >Sometimes Spotlight gets a death grip on a volume. Very annoying. >Do the "mdutil -i off" command to disable the indexing. Then try >Disk Utility. If it still has problems, then try booting into Safe >Mode (shift key held down) to run Disk Utility, or boot from your OS >X DVD... > >HTH, >- Dan. >- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth > >--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thank you Dan, Success! The response to all of the above suggestions was: Terminal commands: Admins-Computer:~ Admin$ sudo mdutil -i off /Volumes/* Password: /Volumes/250GigSATA: Could not set indexing status for volume. /Volumes/424GSATA: Could not set indexing status for volume. /Volumes/Kingston1GMac: Could not set indexing status for volume. /Volumes/Saved10.4.11: Could not set indexing status for volume. Admins-Computer:~ Admin$ Booting with Shift Key down: Passed POST ( got Chime) Spinning gear completed. Grow Bar competed. Desk Top came up and immediately after, the computer shut down. Booted from a OS 10.3.9 Disk and ran Desk Utility. I don't have a bootable 10.4 DVD. Disk utility reported the 250G Repaired . the 424G Volume was not completely Repaired. Saved10.4.11 was reported as Repaired. Booted from Saved10.4.11 and everything was still in error. Indexing still taking 98% CPU. the other two Volumes still won't un mount when running DU in 10.4.11. I continued using the computer for about 3 hours. At this point (4AM), I Shutdown. I think I shutdown, at least I meant to shutdown but today when I booted I was asked to Log In, which I did as Admin. I may have clicked on the bottom choice of Log Out instead of Shutdown Checked Activity Monitor and it was running 5-9% with nothing else running. Ran DU and the two Volumes un mounted and mounted and all Verified. Now I can get a 10.4 Install DVD and a large external FW HD. Thank you again, ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mds 99%
At 7:21 PM -0800 12/20/2008, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: > > I have always, since moving to OSX, selected MacOS Extended (Not >Journaled) Not a good choice. Journaling is THE main mechanism that HFS+ (Mac OS Extended) now depends upon to maintain much of its integrity across bad crashes. It is probably THE best enhancement to HFS ever. But you've turned it off... >and never use Spotlight. I find Cmd F to be good enough. If a spotlight index exists on the volume, then the Finder's search (cmd-F) uses it! So you DO use Spotlight. >Is Cmd F still Sherlock? No. >Does the: > >>sudo mdutil -i off /Volumes/* >>sudo mdutil -E /Volumes/* >>sudo mdutil -i on /Volumes/* > >fix the Un-mountable Volumes? No. Those commands only deal with the Spotlight indices on functioning mounted volumes. As to your un-mountable volumes... Sorry - Your subject was mds. The rest I took to be resolved background information. So to go back to your original post >[replaced monitor] and then the trouble really began with many KP's >and very slow response from Safari 3 and Camino 1.5. It would be helpful to see some of the kernal panic logs. Don't post them to this mailing list tho - zip 'em up and send them to me as an attachment. >I tried to do a SuperDuper BU to my other drive but that failed. To >keep this short all I tried has resulted in my having lost most of my >saved recent Email and all of my acquired Applications. Why did the backup fail - exactly what was the error message? >My immediate problem is the mds Process using all the CPU and the >curious fact that Disk Utility will neither Test, Repair or erase the >250G or the 420G drives and reports they cannot be Unmounted. I have >Shut down and restarted several time with no change in that report. Sometimes Spotlight gets a death grip on a volume. Very annoying. Do the "mdutil -i off" command to disable the indexing. Then try Disk Utility. If it still has problems, then try booting into Safe Mode (shift key held down) to run Disk Utility, or boot from your OS X DVD... HTH, - Dan. - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mds 99%
>At 12:16 AM -0800 12/20/2008, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: >>Dual 500 GigE. >>OS10.4.11 >> >>A process named mds running at Root is taking 99% of the CPU > >That's Spotlight, running from the root account. > > From your description, most likely the Spotlight index on one or more >of your disk volumes has been corrupted. If Spotlight finishes in a >few hours - then all's good. If it doesn't, then you need to turn >off indexing, erase the indices, then turn indexing back on -- and >let it run until it's finished. > >Note that Spotlight's indexing process, in Tiger, is a bit buggy. It >corrupts things if the indexing process is interrupted. So DO NOT >shutdown or sleep. It's ok to use the machine while it's running, >just don't shutdown or sleep until it's done. > > From your administrator account, issue these three commands from Terminal: > >sudo mdutil -i off /Volumes/* >sudo mdutil -E /Volumes/* >sudo mdutil -i on /Volumes/* > >They must be done exactly as-is - they are case sensitive. > >Once that's done, let your system run - DO NOT shut it down or let it >sleep until the mds and mdutil processes do their thing, then go back >to being idle. > >HTH, >- Dan. >-- >- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth Thank you Dan, I am not sure how: > If it doesn't, then you need to turn >off indexing, erase the indices, then turn indexing back on -- and >let it run until it's finished. , is accomplished. I see no options for locating much less manipulating the Indices. I have always, since moving to OSX, selected MacOS Extended (Not Journaled) and never use Spotlight. I find Cmd F to be good enough. Someone on this list recommended that a few years ago. I don't know how it all ties in. Just habit from classic. Is Cmd F still Sherlock? Or does it just access Spotlight. This time, in the confusion I formatted the 80G partition as the default Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Does the: >sudo mdutil -i off /Volumes/* >sudo mdutil -E /Volumes/* >sudo mdutil -i on /Volumes/* fix the Un-mountable Volumes? ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mds 99%
At 12:16 AM -0800 12/20/2008, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: >Dual 500 GigE. >OS10.4.11 > >A process named mds running at Root is taking 99% of the CPU That's Spotlight, running from the root account. From your description, most likely the Spotlight index on one or more of your disk volumes has been corrupted. If Spotlight finishes in a few hours - then all's good. If it doesn't, then you need to turn off indexing, erase the indices, then turn indexing back on -- and let it run until it's finished. Note that Spotlight's indexing process, in Tiger, is a bit buggy. It corrupts things if the indexing process is interrupted. So DO NOT shutdown or sleep. It's ok to use the machine while it's running, just don't shutdown or sleep until it's done. From your administrator account, issue these three commands from Terminal: sudo mdutil -i off /Volumes/* sudo mdutil -E /Volumes/* sudo mdutil -i on /Volumes/* They must be done exactly as-is - they are case sensitive. Once that's done, let your system run - DO NOT shut it down or let it sleep until the mds and mdutil processes do their thing, then go back to being idle. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mds 99%
>On Dec 20, 2008, at 3:16 AM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: > >> >> A process named mds running at Root is taking 99% of the CPU on my >> Dual 500 GigE. > >I believe that is related to Spotlight. > >It will stop after awhile. > >Can't help you with the other ... going to bed ... good luck tomorrow? > >Bill Connelly >artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio >myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio > Thanks Bill: As I told Ted "It ran for 3 or 4 hours then I shut down over night and today it is still indexing(?)." I will leave it running and see. I will run Onyx and see if it fixes the Hd's. ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mds 99%
>Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: >> A process named mds running at Root is taking 99% of the CPU on my >> Dual 500 GigE. > > >> This is my fault for not running AHT immediately after my System > > Crashed a week ago. Clip: > > >> My immediate problem is the mds Process using all the CPU and the >> curious fact that Disk Utility will neither Test, Repair or erase the >> 250G or the 420G drives and reports they cannot be Unmounted. I have > > Shut down and restarted several time with no change in that report. Clip > > Can some one tell me how to get out of this mess? I would like to >> start over with clean OS10.4.11 Systems. And I will get at least one >> External large HD for Xmas. A day I hope you all enjoy. >> >> ErnieG >> >> >mds is Spotlight indexing your drive(s). > >Leave it for an hour or so, and it should finish. > >Can't remember offhand where the Spotlight index is to be found, but if >it's corrupt (not unknown) no doubt a real guru will reply telling you. > >You can stop it by dragging your drive(s) to the privacy section (dont >index) of the Spotlight control panel in System Preferences - but that >will stop searches. Thanks Ted; It ran for 3 or 4 hours then I shut down over night and today it is still indexing(?). I tried dragging the drives to the Spotlight Panel , both the Icon in System Preferences and the open panel with no effect. The Drive Icons just snapped back to original positions. I will re-download Onyx and run some scripts. ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mds 99%
Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: > A process named mds running at Root is taking 99% of the CPU on my > Dual 500 GigE. > > This is my fault for not running AHT immediately after my System > Crashed a week ago. > > The crash consisted of the monitor going dark and on restart the > monitor flashed briefly as the System. booted. This happened for > about four restarts and then stayed dark. > > On the few flashes the screen displayed White Text on Black screen. > on the final flash a Black "worm" shaped area was seen near the > center of the Hyundai B90A 19 inch LCD. > > The flashes lasted only a few seconds. > > Thinking "Bad Monitor" I went to Staples and found a bargain on a > ACER 22 inch LCD and then the trouble really began with many KP's and > very slow response from Safari 3 and Camino 1.5. > > I tried to do a SuperDuper BU to my other drive but that failed. To > keep this short all I tried has resulted in my having lost most of my > saved recent Email and all of my acquired Applications. > > I have two SATA drives in the GigE a 500G partitioned 80G and 420G and a 250G. > > The 250G was my Boot Drive with a SuperDuper clone of the 250G on on > the 420G Volume. The 80G had OS9.2.2 on it. > > Now I have OS10.4.11 on the 80G and the other two volumes have been erased > > However, with no Apps running, Activity Monitor shows that a process > named mds is running at Root and is taking 99% of the CPU. Causing > both Safari and Camino to panic whenever I try to use them. > > Eudora seems to be running fine. > > This is after I ran AHT and found a bad 128M Ram card which I > removed. Before found and removed the bad stick I managed to corrupt > all systems and lost my stuff by Booting from all available Systems. > None of the stuff was critical and recovery of which will give me > time to ponder the ill spent days just past. Hopefully to my > betterment. > > My immediate problem is the mds Process using all the CPU and the > curious fact that Disk Utility will neither Test, Repair or erase the > 250G or the 420G drives and reports they cannot be Unmounted. I have > Shut down and restarted several time with no change in that report. > > I checked Terminal for (man mds) and (man unmount) and was told they > do not exist in man files. > > Can some one tell me how to get out of this mess? I would like to > start over with clean OS10.4.11 Systems. And I will get at least one > External large HD for Xmas. A day I hope you all enjoy. > > ErnieG > > mds is Spotlight indexing your drive(s). Leave it for an hour or so, and it should finish. Can't remember offhand where the Spotlight index is to be found, but if it's corrupt (not unknown) no doubt a real guru will reply telling you. You can stop it by dragging your drive(s) to the privacy section (dont index) of the Spotlight control panel in System Preferences - but that will stop searches. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mds 99%
On Dec 20, 2008, at 3:16 AM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: > > A process named mds running at Root is taking 99% of the CPU on my > Dual 500 GigE. I believe that is related to Spotlight. It will stop after awhile. Can't help you with the other ... going to bed ... good luck tomorrow? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
