[Gajim-devel] Fwd: Gajim on Transifex
-- Forwarded message -- From: Dimitris Glezos Date: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 14:31 Subject: Gajim on Transifex To: Nikos Kouremenos http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/gajim/ Maybe we can convince the Gajim community to accept translations from Transifex.net? =) -d -- Dimitris Glezos Transifex: The Multilingual Publishing Revolution http://www.transifex.net/ -- http://www.indifex.com/ ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Gajim file transfer
yes release early and release often is always nice. That's why .1 is out and fixes this issue. Enjoy! On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 15:29, Dmitry Korzhevin wrote: > > Hello! > > I want to say that the problem of transferring files is very important, > and issuing frequent releases program to correct errors - a good sign > that developers do not forget about the users who, for whatever reason, > do not use SVN. > > -- > Best regards, > Dmitry Korzhevin > Tel: +38 (039) 295- > E-mail: dkorzhe...@lsupport.net > URL: http://lsupport.net > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership
Guys, releasing after so much time means a lot of pressure. Since all guys here want the best for Gajim I think that (a) there is no need to argue so much about stuff, just let it be for a while and a .1 will come and fix regressions and (b) let everyone take some days off relax and see what's the feedback then about 0.12. Afterall noone is /forced/ to update. Next major release should be Gajim 1.0 On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 19:39, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > Yann Leboulanger wrote: > > > As it's not possiblt to have private mail, let's continue here. > > > > Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > > > Yann Leboulanger wrote: > > > > > >> Jonathan Schleifer a écrit : > > > It's not. It's just that I want to show you that it's not true that > > > this is only affecting GPRS users. > > > > thousands of people uses svn version and have no problem, it's why I > > still thing xmpp ping is a good thing. > > Who also complained about frequent disconnects, yes. > > > You can look in trac, some people are disappointed because they send a > > message, and have no answer. They have to wait 10 minutes at least to > > know they are disconnected. Gajim is a *instant* messager. Having to > > wait 10 minutes to know we are no more connected is not an option in > > my opinion. > > And ping would help there how? Gajim would disconnect and can't > reconnect, as the connection is dead. If the connection wouldn't be > dead, TCP/IP would have fixed that already. If TCP/IP couldn't recover > the connection and it hangs, reconnecting won't work. The only case > where a reconnect might work is if TCP/IP interrupts the connection. > > > > I committed it to trunk, like always. And I told you that I do that > > > and asked you to backport it to 0.12. Plus, I'm not on the > > > translators list, as I can't subscribe, which I also already told > > > you. > > > > translations was for 0.12. I didn't see why it was for trunk. > > Because the translator based on trunk and also translated the XHTML > stuff etc. > > > And I > > don't know when you told me to commit it to 0.12 branch, nor why you > > can't do that. > > I don't backport changes to 0.12, you do. Noone except you committed to > the 0.12 branch at all. Everybody always committed to trunk and you > backported it. Why should that be different now? > > > As you cannot be in translators mailling list, I'll > > maintership to someone who can receive and review patches from other > > translators. > > You could just manually subscribe me… > > > > Why not send a blank space every 55 sec to avoid routers closing > > > idle connections? That would also detect if our connection is dead, > > > thanks to TCP/IP. And that's what one really understands when > > > talking about keep alive. What we do is ping, not keep alive. > > > > See my comments above. Having to wait 10 minutes for an *instant* > > messager is not an option in my opinion. > > You don't have to wait for 10 minutes. Either the connection can be > recovered and lags for a time, in which case a reconnect would fail, or > TCP/IP disconnects you, in which you can reconnect and it might > succeed again. But when a TCP/IP connection is dead, a reconnect won't > work either. So where's the point? > > Plus, it's not 10 minutes. It's only a long time if we don't send > anything. But sending anything doesn't mean we need to send a ping. We > can send a space, that's enough. If the TCP/IP connection has an error, > TCP/IP will close it on the next send. So we send a space and detect > that the connection isn't working anymore. No need to XMPP ping. > > > Sure we have to find a solution. But that can (and will IMO) take a > > long time ... > > There's no need for it to take a long time. Why not just send a space > every 55 sec and let TCP/IP handle it for us? You always compare having > no keep alive at all to having XMPP ping. Why not compare XMPP ping to > having a keep alive the normal way, which is sending a space? That > *WILL* force TCP/IP to close the connection if it's dead. > > I really wonder why every other client and all servers are fine with > just sending a space and why we are not… And I wonder why nobody > complained about dead connections not being detected by them… (Again: > No keep alive is something completely different than sending a space. > With no keep alive, it might really take 10 minutes) > > -- > Jonathan > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] How to thank contributors
trac is better and better exposed On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 20:12, Yann Leboulanger wrote: > Hi all, > > It has been reported, and I agree with that, that we don't thank > contributors, patchers as we should. > > but the question is, how should we do that. We ahve a THANKS file in our > sources, but if we put all contributors in this file, it will become > huge, no? > > Another option could be a page on trac? > > What do you think? > -- > Yann > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Switch Gajim source repository to DVCS
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 15:04, Matej Cepl wrote: > On 2008-12-15, 13:45 GMT, Nikos Kouremenos wrote: > > git is not very nice to Microsoft Windows and I guess we all > > love Python here. > > http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/ I know the project, don't consider it ready. > and do you use text editor and C-compiler written in Python (or > do you use pypy)? This argument doesn't make any sense. I would like to use an editor writen in Python adn pypy if they were the best or at least in the best 3. > > > Of course, you can write git extensions in any language you wish > (including Python, of course). why do that? Anyway it does make sense to me also this one: I consider my self and interface nazi Have fun ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Switch Gajim source repository to DVCS
git is not very nice to Microsoft Windows and I guess we all love Python here. Ok Yann didn't know you couldn't bare svn anymore, I'm curious how that happened ;) I curse you all to go back to the days of cvs :P hehe On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 15:31, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: > Hello > > On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 09:24:33PM +0100, Nico Gulden wrote: > > recently we had a discussion about DVCS in Gajim's groupchat. > > > > I vote for switching from SVN to DVCS and below I want to outline why. > Because > > Gajim is mostly implemented in Python, I guess Mercurial (hg) [1] could > be the best > > choice. > > First, I'm not a gajim developer, I just poke to code that runs on my > machine from time to time, so my preferences have really low importance. > > I agree that DVCS is better. However, I prefer git (first, it seems to > have faster response, second, I know it much better). I guess git is > more familiar to much more developers than hg. Psi used darcs for a > while and they found out it is a problem to some of the potential > developers. But as I say, I'm not a developer of gajim, so do not take > this as a vote, please. > > With regards > > -- > How many Lisp programmers does it take to change a light bulb? > (((H)mmm,) (I'm ((not) sure, better))) (find (out))... > > Michal 'vorner' Vaner > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Switch Gajim source repository to DVCS
not that I hack anymore on Gajim but I am always against DVCS and their ideas and especially on projects with small amount of contributors such as Gajim. I strongly believe that SVN rocks and also for you to commit upstream and keep it centralized and great. On big projects this "must commit your hd changes" every day or two is close to commiting suicide. But Gajim needs this way of thinking to go forward, to push more releases. You can see the problem if you look in svn brances that were abonded or were partially commited to the trunk. Again those issues and worries I express are not for Gajim. Try http://blog.assembla.com/assemblablog/tabid/12618/bid/7437/Why-Subversion-does-not-suck.aspx If Yann and rest of the active devs have decided Gajim needs the D then it's ok :) Happy hacking On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 22:27, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > Asterix has already set up a test repo with hg, I checked it out via > ssh and everything seemed to work fine, even the test trac with > mercurial worked fine :). The only thing left is to map the old svn > revision IDs to the matching hg revision IDs. > > Asterix said we'll switch after 0.12 :). > > -- > Jonathan > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] ETA of 0.12
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Jonathan Schleifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am 13.11.2008 um 08:11 schrieb Yann Leboulanger: > >> I don't see why I would do that, no major bug was reported in debian >> package. 0.12 has to be stabilized before it goes in a stable release. > > > No stability issues, yes, but silent message dropping, which you hardly > notice. The old problem with the idle queue, which is fortunately fixed in > 0.12, after it has been there for years. Guys, GPL clearly explains that there is no warranty for this free software. I guess that if you want to include newest patch for the old release for deb package Yann won't have a problem accepting your backporting patches ;) Greetz from the sun of Athens (this year no rain) aka bigger problems exist :# (0.12 FTW!) ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] name sorting
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Robert C Corsaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > 6400 LoC !!!?? well. I agree with you on the LoC thing. There is a need for a better design [patch is welcome :#] ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] dev-meeting
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Jonathan Schleifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yann Leboulanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> What about monday 30th June, 7pm GMT (9pm CEST) ? > > I don't know yet if I got time there, but I'll try. > Anyway, I'd suggest we don't have specific dates, but instead we should > just start a conversation when enough developers are in the channel. So > we can spontaneously say "We have most of the devs here atm, why not > start a dev discussion in 30 minutes?" or something like that. that has problems. ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Gajim API docs [and thoughts on coding standards and testing]
rst is the best. it's also pythonic and we already support it via ACE to do XHTML-IM :$ OFF-TOPIC: http://www.linux.com/feature/132244 2008/5/31 Mateusz Biliński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Torsten Bronger > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Stephan Erb writes: >>> [...] >>> >>> Epydoc seems to be really mighty. As far as I see we have do agree >>> on a documentation style. (if we agree to use epydoc) >> >> I strongly recommend using reStructuredText. It may make a >> transition to Doxygen more difficult but as far as I can see, Epydoc >> offers everything one needs anyway. I write my pet project with >> Epydoc+reST and the resulting documentation is superb. >> >>> Mateusz, can you tell if there is way for us to follow the python >>> styleguide [0] though we are using epydoc? >> >> Both standards are orthogonal as far as I can see. Moreover, I >> believe reST is considered standard by the Python core team. > > AFAIK (after small research), there is no way to make Epydoc work with > standard PyDoc syntax, so we'll have to give up existing docs and > rewrite it to syntax we decide to use. > > After reading some docs, I think I opt for reST, as Torsten proposed. > It has all features of epytext and it's pretty much standard. In fact, > there's is, as Torsten wrote, some PEP on using reST in docstrings: > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0287/ > > So this solution sound promising. Syntax of reST in Epydoc can be found here: > http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/manual-othermarkup.html > > -- > Mateusz Biliński > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] DVCS [was: Re: "Fixing Broken Windows"]
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Josef Kufner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nikos Kouremenos wrote: >> Since we change subject, ok let's discuss a bit more. >> I *hate* git. > > Why? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)#Criticisms + I feel I had enough with Linus ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] DVCS [was: Re: "Fixing Broken Windows"]
Since we change subject, ok let's discuss a bit more. I *hate* git. Mercurial is very nice (and in python; bazaar is also DVCS and in Python btw) but I'm not sure if Trac intergrates nicely with those two. and I'm a huge fan of TRAC. http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracMercurial is experimental. https://launchpad.net/trac-bzr is far from complete.. (read as doesn't work) and yea there is also Darcs etc. Maybe if trac mercurial goes stable but I still wouldn't vote for it because it will make it a lot harder to manage releases. For more on PITA managing the team and releasing, consider reading http://blog.assembla.com/assemblablog/tabid/12618/bid/2569/Mercurial-Distributed-SCM-Tool-Tames-the-Mob.aspx That's all On 5/30/08, Jonathan Schleifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Jeffrey Ollie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Have you tried msysgit? I haven't tried it myself as I'm not a > > regular user of Windows. > > Doesn't sound too comfortable either. For Mercurial, there's even > TortoiseHg which is as comfortable as TortoiseSvn :). And working with > terminal apps on Windows is always a PITA due to the sucky shell. > > -- > Jonathan > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] "Fixing Broken Windows"
It's ok to disagree and let's not go off topic. ;P I like SVN because it pushes you to commit online. I don't like keep branches for a long time either. I like all in one place. it works better because of psycology reasons I think :) On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Jonathan Schleifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Nikos Kouremenos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > no svn is more than fine. centralization is good for managing > > software such as Gajim. Gajim is not Mozilla nor Apache > > I *STRONGLY* disagree. Ever tried to work with SVN when you're in a > train with your laptop, without any WLAN? You're screwed then. With > mercurial, no problem at all. Just commit offline and push (and merge, > if needed) when you come online again, no problem at all. With svn, you > can't work offline. So, centralized VCS are *BAD*, *BAD* and *BAD*! > > -- > Jonathan > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] "Fixing Broken Windows"
no svn is more than fine. centralization is good for managing software such as Gajim. Gajim is not Mozilla nor Apache also on branching some features and then let the users follow that branch: I used to say and I really hope it's still that way: Gajim is for you grandma On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Jonathan Schleifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd suggest that we branch in about 1 months and only add fixes to that > branch then. If we'd use Mercurial instead of SVN, things would be much > easier :/. A decentral VCS would be better anyway. > > -- > Jonathan > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] changes in message_window.glade
Henning, man you rock. I congratulate you for trying to use GNU/Linux. I always thought (and still think) that Windows is more accessible and easier to use as an OS for a blind man. It's good to see your alternative expressed here, and it's good to have more input from you in the future. So express yourself whenever needed :) On 5/9/08, Henning Oschwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Prickle-Prickle, day 56 of Discord 3174, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > >> I added shortcuts for *EVERY* button in the chat window and the GC >> window now (see r9601). > > This is great, thanks! > > Henning > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
[Gajim-devel] Fwd: MySQL support for Gajim
I fwd to mailing list just in case anyone is already doing that or want to know about it -- Forwarded message -- From: Yann Leboulanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Feb 12, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: Re: MySQL support for Gajim To: Metin Akat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Nikos Kouremenos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Letin Akat wrote: > Hello Yann and Nikos, > I would like to see MySQL support in Gajim and I am willing to write > it but I am not very sure if anyone is already working on this. Could > you please tell me if it is ok to start developing such feature? And > also, will it be ok if I write it atop 0.11.4, or should it be over > the SVN version? > > Best regards, > Metin Akat > He Metin, Nobody is working on that, at least nobody told us about that. And it would be a cool feature ! Log system hasn't changed since 0.11.4, so it would be ok to do it on top of 0.11.4. But it's always better and easier for us if you write it with latest svn version. Don't hesitate to ask if you have questions -- Yann -- Nikos Kouremenos MSc Information Systems ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Status switcher bug
Unfortunately it's GTK bug for many many years now. On Nov 8, 2007 12:40 PM, Артем Смирнов <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When combobox with statuses opened near bottom of screen, menu appear > with arrows for scrolling and all items appear scrolled behind bottom > of menu. > > -- > Artyom > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] pre-release of Gajim-0.11.2
installer works great on Vista and Gajim launches (and works great). About dialog says 0.11.1.4 CONGRTS On 9/9/07, Yann Leboulanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > a pre-release of Gajim-0.11.2 is ready. Tarball and Windows installers > are downloadable on www.gajim.org website. > > Don't hesitate to test it and report bugs. > > This is a bugfix-only release. No new features. > > Here is the Changelog: > * Improve idle, transports support > * Enable ellipsization in roster and chatwindow > * Fixed some metacontacts problems (#2156, #2761) > * Beter support of XEP-0070 (Verifying HTTP Requests via XMPP) > * Make the same height of a banner for all chat tabs > * Fix a bug with french translation and invitations (#3043) > * Fix a bug with UTF-8 and emoticons > * Corrected many bugs with passwords and gnome-keyring > * Improve xhtml-im and pictures support > * Improve Ad-Hoc support > * And many other bufixes > > > Thanks for your help > -- > Yann > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] GPL V3 or any later version
On 8/31/07, Vincent Hanquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 12:12:37PM +0200, Yann Leboulanger wrote: > > Gajim is currently released under GPL V2. We'd like to release next > > version under GPL V3 or any later version. For that we need that all of > > you (developers and patchers) accept this change. > > > > Richard Stallman explains here [0] some reasons to switch to Versino 3 > > of GPL. > > That doesn't explains why it's good for gajim, does it ? No if you want to look it up, you're free to do so. :) Yann won't copy paste fsf docs cause everyone here knows fsf. > And as it's difficult to upgrade from GPL V2 to V3, we'd like to release > > under V3 *or any later version* so that next version of GPL will be used > > without having to ask everyone. > > I agree with the upgrade to GPL v3, not that I think that's actually > needed or useful, but I absolutely *disagree* to "any later version". > I'll never agree to license that doesn't exists yet (and that's why gajim > was GPL v2 only in the first place) I agree with you on the "or later" being too vague, too general but in legal terms it's better than only gplv3 especially because it makes it easier to switch to gplv4 (after 10 years..) and to gplv5 (after 15-20 years). We don't know of course what FLOSS and Gajim will be in the next 5 years so.. Moreover the more developers hack, the less easier it gets to update to v4 v5 etc.. But if we don't then we may lose compatibility (well... officialy that). Google on "GPL or later" for more. Anyways, good to see you respond. ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] GPL V3 or any later version
Hello to everyone that has hacked Gajim. I, too, agree to use GPLv3 or later. ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Proper From line in Gmail notifications
Hey guys. Since the first day I implemented this feature, I asked if notifications could do such buttons. At that time they couldn't. Maybe it's time we push for such feature (and the rational is in this list) before we try fix the unfixable. If they say: "no we will not do it. EVER" then either stick to current impl, or do http://smoke.skunk.one.pl/~emes/gajim-allinone.jpg but make sure we don't show so many From for one mail/subject! On 5/30/07, beerfan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/29/07, Michal Salaban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > something like this: > > > http://smoke.skunk.one.pl/~emes/gmail+gajim.jpg > > > there are 3 conversations, 16 messages in total. > > > > i also tried to include more information in notifications. there are > > some samples how it can be done, with short comments from my side: > > > > 1. > > http://smoke.skunk.one.pl/~emes/gajim-singleboxes.jpg > > boxes disappear before you're able to read important information. > > totally unusable for people receiving many e-mails. > > This box is the smallest of the 3 samples. How could it be too much to > read before it goes away? I'm confused. > > > 2. > > http://smoke.skunk.one.pl/~emes/gajim-allinone.jpg > > much better, i think. readable, but adding some text styling would > > make it great, if possible at all. > > This is way too big, in my opinion. That would fill half my screen. I > like that you are showing more info but I think showing multiple > messages (i.e., all messages in a gmail conversation) is too much. > Showing a separate notification for each message is more scalable and > easier to quickly read. > > > 3. > > http://smoke.skunk.one.pl/~emes/gajim-allinone+snippet.jpg > > too much information for me. unreadable without styling (e.g. printing > > snippet in italic or low-contrast). > > Even worse than number 2. > > I replied off-list to Yann's last email (accidentally but didn't > bother to repost to the list) but here's a screen capture of GTalk's > notification for reference. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/beerfan/Gajim/photo#5070098207340449986 > > Not that I'm trying to steer Gajim towards duplicating GTalk but, for > myself, it is the XMPP client which most closely follows the same > interface philosophy which is the main reason that I prefer it. > > I hope my criticisms won't discourage you though. You're on the right > track. I just think less is more. > > Cheers, > Chris > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Gajim on the cover of GNUzilla magazine
naaahh On 4/18/07, Anders Ström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, but a translation would be nice if anyones up to it. :) > > 2007/4/17, Nikos Kouremenos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Thanks. This is cool :) > > > > On 4/17/07, Adrian C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello, Gajim got a solid review (and even appeared on the cover :) in > > > the last issue of GNUzilla magazine; which is a very popular free > > > software zine on the teritory of former Yugoslavia. > > > You can check it out here > > > http://gnuzilla.fsnserbia.org/ > > > > > > Cheers, anrxc. > > > > > > -- > > > JID:anrxc|sysphere|org | sysphere.org/~anrxc/ > > > ___ > > > Gajim-devel mailing list > > > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > > > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > > > > > ___ > > Gajim-devel mailing list > > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > > > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Gajim on the cover of GNUzilla magazine
Thanks. This is cool :) On 4/17/07, Adrian C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, Gajim got a solid review (and even appeared on the cover :) in > the last issue of GNUzilla magazine; which is a very popular free > software zine on the teritory of former Yugoslavia. > You can check it out here > http://gnuzilla.fsnserbia.org/ > > Cheers, anrxc. > > -- > JID:anrxc|sysphere|org | sysphere.org/~anrxc/ > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] [gajim-devel] Audio files format
wav is simpler and plays allover (also in Windows via the Windows API). we compress the exe so it's no problem. On 3/8/07, Davidson Rodrigues Paulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I was looking at notification audio files of Gajim and I have found > they're WAV PCM audio. What you think about convert they to Ogg > Vorbis? The .ogg files will be about 89% smaller than .wav files at > quality level 6. > > My two cents. > > Regards, > > Davidson Paulo > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Looking for a XMPP-client
try wikipedia On 2/21/07, Yann Le Boulanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Hanne wrote: > > Hello there, > > > > we've reached the limits of the msn protocol an are about to migrate to > > a jabber-based infrastructure. > > So we're looking for a xmpp-compilant server which supports text, audio > > and video-messages in 1on1 and conference-mode. > > > > Unfortunately, there is no meaningful comparision-chart available. > > So could you send us a featurelist of your software so we have a chance > > to decide? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Gajim is not a server, it's a client, and it doesn't support audio / > video conferences for the moment > > -- > Yann > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] [patch] Nickname and Fullname support in the roster
I couldn't agree more. On 2/20/07, Yann Le Boulanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nikos Kouremenos wrote: > > if this XEP http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0172.html doesn't cover > > the nickname change event,then I don't know what to think. At least > > propose it to be done so in that XEP > > > > I just re-read this XEP, and here is what is written: > > "In order for a user to modify his or her nickname and notify contacts > of that change, it is RECOMMENDED for clients to use Personal Eventing > via Pubsub [15] (a.k.a. PEP)." > > so we need to support PEP ... > > XEP says that if we don't support PEP we can use pubsub, and if we don't > support pubsub, we can use a message: > > > NEW_NICK > > > this solution sounds ugly as we have to send a message to ALL our > contacts. So we should implement PEP for that. > > -- > Yann > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] [patch] Nickname and Fullname support in the roster
if this XEP http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0172.html doesn't cover the nickname change event,then I don't know what to think. At least propose it to be done so in that XEP On 2/18/07, Yann Le Boulanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Damien THEBAULT wrote: > > Oops, sorry, I forgot the patch. > > > > > This is an interesting patch, and a good way to do the MSN way for > nickname: contact choose the nick he wants others see. > > there are 2 problems: > - keep contact.vcard takes too much memory. vcard can be a big object as > it contains avatar. A solution could be to have a shown_nick field that > is filled the way you explained each time we get the vcard. > - there are too many vcard query. I understand that we need to do some > query because we are not advised when our contacts change their nick. So > there is no other way than querying vcard sometimes. But to improve > that, we can avoid querying vcard when a nick is already set by the user > for this contact. But asking the vcard on each status change is maybe > too much. I'll have a talk with Peter about an eventual XEP for > spreading new nickname when we change it. > > -- > Yann > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
[Gajim-devel] Fwd: pre-release of Gajim-0.11.1
forgot to CC -- Forwarded message -- From: Nikos Kouremenos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Feb 9, 2007 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [Gajim-devel] pre-release of Gajim-0.11.1 To: "Stian B. Barmen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good job Stian. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_activity.cgi?id=406062 On 2/9/07, Stian B. Barmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, for what it is worth I can confirm the bug, also, very nice video > here: > > http://www.barmen.nu/filer/Video/Other/gajimbug.avi > > -stian > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Nikos Kouremenos > Sent: 9. februar 2007 01:42 > To: Andrew Diederich > Cc: gajim-devel@gajim.org > Subject: Re: [Gajim-devel] pre-release of Gajim-0.11.1 > > unfortunately, those are GTK/win32 issues that should be reported (if > not already to gtk+ in bugs.gnome.org) > > On 2/8/07, Andrew Diederich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Hannes, > > > > On Thursday, February 8, 2007, 11:33:22 AM, Hannes Tismer wrote: > > > > > I've just installed the version with GTK+ included. > > > The tbicon's menu now shows up at the correct location, but seems to be > > > pretty messed-up. When right-clicked, the menu has a scroll button at > > > the top > > > and one at the bottom. After moving the mouse over the one at the > bottom, > > > the menu gets displayed correctly. > > > This happens every time the icon is right-clicked. > > > > I see this, too. The rest of the pre-release works like I expect, > > minus that the version is 0.11.0, rather than 0.11.1. I'm very happy > > to get my tray-icon back. :) > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Andrew Diederich > > > > ___ > > Gajim-devel mailing list > > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] pre-release of Gajim-0.11.1
unfortunately, those are GTK/win32 issues that should be reported (if not already to gtk+ in bugs.gnome.org) On 2/8/07, Andrew Diederich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Hannes, > > On Thursday, February 8, 2007, 11:33:22 AM, Hannes Tismer wrote: > > > I've just installed the version with GTK+ included. > > The tbicon's menu now shows up at the correct location, but seems to be > > pretty messed-up. When right-clicked, the menu has a scroll button at > > the top > > and one at the bottom. After moving the mouse over the one at the bottom, > > the menu gets displayed correctly. > > This happens every time the icon is right-clicked. > > I see this, too. The rest of the pre-release works like I expect, > minus that the version is 0.11.0, rather than 0.11.1. I'm very happy > to get my tray-icon back. :) > > -- > Best regards, > Andrew Diederich > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] pre-release of Gajim-0.11.1
yes On 2/8/07, Andrew Diederich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this release fix the tray icon memory leak issue(s) in windows? > > -- > Best regards, > Andrew Diederich > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] User-provided avatars
yes what you say is okay. On 2/3/07, Yann Le Boulanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Torsten Bronger wrote: > Hallöchen! > > I'd like to have the option to provide own avatars in Gajim. I > *think* ;) I could do the programming myself, however, first I must > know one or two things: Do you think it is a sensible feature? Is > there already any effort in this direction? > > And what should be the "rules"? If there is a contact-provided > avatar, should the own avatar always override it? Additionally, I > think the info box should show both (the user-provided at least as a > filename). > > Tschö, > Torsten. > there is currently no way to do that, nor any effort in that direction. So you can do that if you want. I think a button in vcard window at the place of the avatar (or under it if there is one) and show both avatars in vcard one under the other is a good solution. If both exists, show the forced one in roster. tooltip should IMHO show only one. the contacts's one if it exists or the forced one. other suggestions ? -- Yann ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] crash on windows, 0.11
wow. I guess http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74620 makes it
clear it is not us.
Thanks for finding out. Well GTK+ was always like that, and especially
in Windows it is more untested. The problem is not if GTK was better
when Gajim started, but if there is a real alternative open source
solution for a stable and extensively tested GUI. And there isn't,
because open source does not give enough money back for such a
mechanism to exist.
GTK in Linux "just works" so it's acceptable allover as such.
if you are a python fan, then the best GUI for Windows is wxPython and
you can have a look at IronPython speaking to MS SWF (.NET).
On 1/6/07, Andrew Diederich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Nikos,
>
> Friday, January 5, 2007, 11:44:59 AM, you wrote:
>
> > yes and unfortunately if you have this everytime, I advise you to look
> > for this problem in GOOGLE or in bugs.gnome.org under GTK+ in case
> > it's been reported. [which I bet it has]
>
> Looks like it's been reported 6 times since 2002 (bugs 371288, 376779,
> 351617, 344826, 329356, and one fix attempt in 74620.
>
> > in any case, this doesn't seem to be a bug from our side (at least as
> > far as I can say)
>
> Yeah, that looks true.
>
> > GTK (and especially on Windows) sucks. More on why
> > http://blogs.gnome.org/view/timj/2006/12/20/0 [and this talks about
> > Linux too! imagine Windows.. :/ {AFAICT, only one guy hacks on
> > Windows}]
>
> Was gtk+ better when gajim was started, then? I do really like gajim
> (partially because I'm a python fan), but the gtk+ is getting on my
> nerves.
>
> > if u have evidence it is us, inform us though.
>
> Will do.
>
>
> --
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> Andrew
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[Gajim-devel] Fwd: Re[2]: crash on windows, 0.11
-- Forwarded message --
From: Nikos Kouremenos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Jan 5, 2007 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Gajim-devel] crash on windows, 0.11
To: Andrew Diederich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
yes and unfortunately if you have this everytime, I advise you to look
for this problem in GOOGLE or in bugs.gnome.org under GTK+ in case
it's been reported. [which I bet it has]
in any case, this doesn't seem to be a bug from our side (at least as
far as I can say)
GTK (and especially on Windows) sucks. More on why
http://blogs.gnome.org/view/timj/2006/12/20/0 [and this talks about
Linux too! imagine Windows.. :/ {AFAICT, only one guy hacks on
Windows}]
if u have evidence it is us, inform us though.
On 1/5/07, Andrew Diederich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Nikos,
>
> Thursday, January 4, 2007, 4:19:03 PM, you wrote:
>
> > please upgrade your GTK
>
> I always use the bundled gajim plus gtk install. Does the current -3
> install have the upgraded gtk?
>
> > On 1/4/07, Andrew Diederich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hello gajim-devel,
> >>
> >> I got this crash popup while double-clicking on a url in a chat
> >> window.
> >>
> >> Gtk-ERROR **: file ../../../gtk+gtk/gtktextview.c: line 5665
> >> (gtk_text_view_start_selection_drag): assertion failed:
> >> (text_view->selection_grag_handler == 0)
> >> aborting...
> >>
> >> There was no log file left.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >> Andrew
> >>
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Re: [Gajim-devel] crash on windows, 0.11
please upgrade your GTK On 1/4/07, Andrew Diederich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello gajim-devel, > > I got this crash popup while double-clicking on a url in a chat > window. > > Gtk-ERROR **: file ../../../gtk+gtk/gtktextview.c: line 5665 > (gtk_text_view_start_selection_drag): assertion failed: > (text_view->selection_grag_handler == 0) > aborting... > > There was no log file left. > > -- > Best regards, > Andrew > > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Tray icon problem on Windows (again)
Oh boy. So yet another GTK+ bug. I hope someone gets to report it. On 12/22/06, Geobert QUACH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After a day using gajim without the tray, it does not occur. So we can > say it is a leak with the tray icon in GTK2.10 > > On 12/21/06, Le Boulanger Yann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Geobert QUACH wrote: > > > After chatting a while, the interface begins to have som diffuculty to > > > be drawn (some missing borders, no cursor, no tray icon) and got this > > > on console : > > > > > > C:\Program Files\Gajim\src\gajim.py:2195: GtkWarning: > > > ../../../../gtk+/gdk/win32 > > > /gdkgc-win32.c:846: SaveDC failed: Espace insuffisant pour traiter cette > > > command > > > e. > > > gtk.main() > > > C:\Program Files\Gajim\src\gajim.py:2195: GtkWarning: > > > ../../../../gtk+/gdk/win32 > > > /gdkgc-win32.c:986: RestoreDC failed: Param├¿tre incorrect. > > > gtk.main() > > > C:\Program Files\Gajim\src\gajim.py:2195: GtkWarning: > > > ../../../../gtk+/gdk/win32 > > > /gdkdrawable-win32.c:1313: LineTo failed: Espace insuffisant pour traiter > > > cette > > > commande. > > > gtk.main() > > > > > > > > > while passing mouse on the roster I got "black selection" on groupe or > > > contact and this TB : > > > > > > C:\Program Files\Gajim\src\conversation_textview.py:179: GtkWarning: > > > ../../../.. > > > /gtk+/gdk/win32/gdkdrawable-win32.c:1313: LineTo failed: Espace > > > insuffisant pour > > > traiter cette commande. > > > self.tv.scroll_to_mark(end_mark, 0, True, 0, 1) > > > C:\Program Files\Gajim\src\conversation_textview.py:179: GtkWarning: > > > ../../../.. > > > /gtk+/gdk/win32/gdkdrawable-win32.c:1313: LineTo failed: Op├(r)ration > > > r├(r)ussie. > > > self.tv.scroll_to_mark(end_mark, 0, True, 0, 1) > > > C:\Program Files\Gajim\src\tooltips.py:111: GtkWarning: > > > ../../../../gtk+/gdk/win > > > 32/gdkdrawable-win32.c:851: Rectangle failed: Espace insuffisant pour > > > traiter ce > > > tte commande. > > > None, self.win, 'tooltip', 0, 0, -1, 1) > > > C:\Program Files\Gajim\src\tooltips.py:113: GtkWarning: > > > ../../../../gtk+/gdk/win > > > 32/gdkdrawable-win32.c:851: Rectangle failed: Op├(r)ration r├(r)ussie. > > > None, self.win, 'tooltip', 0, size[1] - 1, -1, 1) > > > C:\Program Files\Gajim\src\tooltips.py:115: GtkWarning: > > > ../../../../gtk+/gdk/win > > > 32/gdkdrawable-win32.c:851: Rectangle failed: Op├(r)ration r├(r)ussie. > > > None, self.win, 'tooltip', 0, 0, 1, -1) > > > C:\Program Files\Gajim\src\tooltips.py:117: GtkWarning: > > > ../../../../gtk+/gdk/win > > > 32/gdkdrawable-win32.c:851: Rectangle failed: Op├(r)ration r├(r)ussie. > > > None, self.win, 'tooltip', size[0] - 1, 0, 1, -1) > > > C:\Program Files\Gajim\src\tooltips.py:113: GtkWarning: > > > ../../../../gtk+/gdk/win > > > 32/gdkdrawable-win32.c:851: Rectangle failed: Espace insuffisant pour > > > traiter ce > > > tte commande. > > > None, self.win, 'tooltip', 0, size[1] - 1, -1, 1) > > > C:\Program Files\Gajim\src\tooltips.py:115: GtkWarning: > > > ../../../../gtk+/gdk/win > > > 32/gdkdrawable-win32.c:851: Rectangle failed: Espace insuffisant pour > > > traiter ce > > > tte commande. > > > None, self.win, 'tooltip', 0, 0, 1, -1) > > > C:\Program Files\Gajim\src\tooltips.py:117: GtkWarning: > > > ../../../../gtk+/gdk/win > > > 32/gdkdrawable-win32.c:851: Rectangle failed: Espace insuffisant pour > > > traiter ce > > > tte commande. > > > None, self.win, 'tooltip', size[0] - 1, 0, 1, -1) > > > C:\Program Files\Gajim\src\gajim.py:2195: GtkWarning: > > > ../../../../gtk+/gdk/win32 > > > /gdkdrawable-win32.c:1313: LineTo failed: Param├¿tre incorrect. > > > gtk.main() > > > > > > while opening a tab: > > > C:\Program Files\Gajim\src\message_window.py:289: GtkWarning: > > > ../../../../gtk+/g > > > dk/win32/gdkwindow-win32.c:1934: CopyCursor failed: Op├(r)ration > > > r├(r)ussie. > > > self.notebook.set_current_page(ctrl_page) > > > > > > But it does not crash like before. > > > > > > > sounds like a memory leak. Could you try gajim without systray enabled > > to see if it's the problem ? > > > > -- > > Yann > > > > > -- > Geobert QUACH > http://articles-ido.dnsalias.org > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Avatar display in profile - windows
the bug is in GTK+ apparently as PyGTK all it does is call the C functions. On 12/21/06, Le Boulanger Yann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geobert QUACH wrote: > > The button containing the avatar has no picture on windows (empty button). > > I've looked a little bibt, and it's a problem with button.set_image / > button.set_label() if we remove button.set_label line 217, images is > printed. but if we erase it and select a new one, it is not printed. > > it seems once a button.set_label() has been called, an image cannot be > shown in button anymore... strange ... maybe a bug in pygtk as it works > under linux ! > > -- > Yann > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org http://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] 0.11 release
I think this should be stated in the Changelog (and in www.gajim.org) so we can finally fix the "gajim sucks on windows" feeling On 12/12/06, Yann LE BOULANGER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Diederich a écrit : > > Hello Yann, > > > > Tuesday, December 12, 2006, 3:50:58 AM, you wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > > > > Has the stability of the windows version improved? I had to stop > > using gajim on windows because it crashed several times a day. My > > suspicion was it was always the gtk+ portion, not the python portion. > > > > the pb was with trayicon of pywin32 which had a mem leak. we now use > GTK2.10 status icon, and it seems to be much more stable. > > -- > Yann > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] suggestion for Avatar dialog
On 10/10/06, Markus Lutzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now the dialog for Avatar information can be accessed through two > different ways (names can vary because I translated it from my German > installation): > (1) menu->accounts->tab personal information->button edit personal details > (2) menu->profile,Avatar->specific account > > I would suggest to understand avatar information as part of a particular > account. Therefore it would be easier to use and to understand to drop > path (2) and change path (1) to menu->accounts->tabs with personal > information. I don't understand the new path you propose. also it's clear with way (2) that avatar is account specific. and (2) is more like a shortcut. > This would result in a consistent account dialog with tabs > for account, general, connection, OpenPGP, personal details, work, > about. The button which is required now to be pressed separates the > avatar information from the account which does not make any sense to me > (concept) and requires an additional click by the user (usability). > (note: To drop the upload and fetch button of personal information was > agreed in a discussion on this list before.) What do you think about this? If noone ticketed it, then you should. Ticketing is the way for a request or bug report not to be forgotten. ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] (no subject)
On 10/7/06, Markus Lutzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The submenu entry of Actions->Group Chat is: "Neuen Raum betreten" (= > >> enter new room) and the following window title "Betrete Chatraum" (= > >> enter chat room) > > okay that is our "problem". We use Group Chat as more general idea, > > and room as the place to be. Is this confusing? > > Now you use three terminologies? "group chat", "room", and "chat room" > to describe one and the same thing? To use one terminology would be more > consistent resp. easier to understand. For instance "group chat". okay please ticket it. ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] (no subject)
On 10/7/06, Markus Lutzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a German Gajim installed but starting Gajim with "LANG=C gajim" > results in a mixed language Gajim. Most of Gajim seems to be in English > (as expected) but some texts are in German: LC_MESSAGES=C gajim > The submenu entry of Actions->Group Chat is: "Neuen Raum betreten" (= > enter new room) and the following window title "Betrete Chatraum" (= > enter chat room) okay that is our "problem". We use Group Chat as more general idea, and room as the place to be. Is this confusing? > > Also submenu entry of Actions->Advanced->"Verlaufmanager" (is not > "Verlaufsmanager" with the additional "s" the proper terminology?) yes, with s. fixed. > Additionally the gateway to ICQ is called "Netzwerkübergang" instead of > gateway but I am not sure if this is Gajim's fault. this is from server /me thinks. I couldn't find anything in de.po that is Netzwerkübergang ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] separate fields for server and room for conference chat?
you can type this, and you will go to server after '@'. maybe you can open a ticket to request that that works when pasting? generally the split is for those that aren't familiar on how to read a MUC JID On 10/7/06, Markus Lutzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To connect to a conference chat, why I need to separate the address of > the chat into room and server and don't have one single field (as in the > add contact window) where I could enter [EMAIL PROTECTED] for > instance? > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
[Gajim-devel] Ideas about a Gajim moto
Hello everyone, Our logo is good, but sometimes we also need logo with moto in it. Atm, we can do: Gajim Jabber in PyGTK and Gajim Jabber Power Make your suggesstions please Thanks ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
[Gajim-devel] Gajim Patch for 0.9.1 to fix notification-daemon 0.3.x Traceback
This is for package maintainers that their distro also offers (or is
likely that user has) 0.3.x version of notification-daemon.
In that version, they break their API. So for Gajim to work under 0.3
the attached patch is needed. Please note that with this patch, Gajim
continues to work ok with 0.2.x version of notification-daemon.
patch adopted to 0.9.1 (from svn) by Dawid Gajownik (FC packager), thanks Dawid.
Thank you for your attention
PS. packagers maintainers are encouraged to subscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which will contain such announcements as well
announcements on releases and pre-releases. This means that they can
follow that information, without traffic about devel.
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diff -Nur gajim-0.9.1.orig/src/notify.py gajim-0.9.1/src/notify.py
--- gajim-0.9.1.orig/src/notify.py 2005-12-27 01:07:44.0 +0100
+++ gajim-0.9.1/src/notify.py 2006-03-30 01:34:02.0 +0200
@@ -189,10 +189,29 @@
self.notif = dbus_support.get_notifications_interface()
if self.notif is None:
raise dbus.dbus_bindings.DBusException()
- self.id = self.notif.Notify(dbus.String(_('Gajim')),
- dbus.String(path), dbus.UInt32(0), ntype, dbus.Byte(0),
- dbus.String(event_type), dbus.String(txt),
- [dbus.String(path)], {'default':0}, [''], True, dbus.UInt32(5))
+ timeout = gajim.config.get('notification_timeout') # in seconds
+ # Determine the version of notifications
+ # FIXME: This code is blocking, as is the next set. That should be fixed
+ # now that we have a class to encapsulate this behavior
+ try:
+ (name, vendor, version) = self.notif.GetServerInfo()
+ except:
+ # No way to determine the version number, set it to the latest
+ # since it doesn't properly support the version number
+ version = '0.3.1'
+ if version.startswith('0.2'):
+ try:
+self.id = self.notif.Notify(dbus.String(_('Gajim')),
+ dbus.String(path), dbus.UInt32(0), ntype, dbus.Byte(0),
+ dbus.String(event_type), dbus.String(txt),
+ [dbus.String(path)], {'default': 0}, [''], True, dbus.UInt32(
+ timeout))
+ except AttributeError:
+version = '0.3.1' # we're actually dealing with the newer version
+ if version.startswith('0.3'):
+ self.id = self.notif.Notify(dbus.String(_('Gajim')),
+dbus.String(path), dbus.UInt32(0), dbus.String(event_type),
+dbus.String(txt), dbus.String(""), {}, dbus.UInt32(timeout*1000))
notification_response_manager.attach_to_interface()
notification_response_manager.pending[self.id] = self
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Re: [Gajim-devel] Adding new accounts...
On 3/27/06, Dimitur Kirov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:15:38 +0300 "Nikos Kouremenos" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 3/27/06, Pau Rodriguez-Estivill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi again! > > > > > > Just because you have added the new mail check for gmail. I think > > > that could be also good idea to automatically change the connection > > > server when server is "gmail.com" or "googlemail.com" to directly > > > "talk.google.com". To avoid manual changes for this server. > > > > we do it talk.google.com silently if nslookup is found. we could > > hardcode it though [check if gmail.com or googlemail.com and do it > > talk.google.com without waiting for nslookup], ticket it please. > > > That is an absolutely absurd idea. First try: > $ host -tsrv _xmpp-client._tcp.gmail.com > Do you see talk.google.com in the list of hosts? NO. Can you be sure > that after 3 months the list of hosts will be the same? NO. I think > smarter people than us has thought of that and it is ridiculous to > pretend that we can do it better. well.. I guess they will keep it from backwards compat but yeah ;) > Just to mention that nslookup is part of bind-tools, dns-tools, or > bind-dnstools, depending on the distro and package maintainers should > add it as a dependency in the new version. this should be mentioned in ChangeLog and DEPS should change to meet this one in debian/ [which we ship], Autopackage [which we ship]. -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Adding new accounts...
On 3/27/06, Pau Rodriguez-Estivill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi again! > > Just because you have added the new mail check for gmail. I think that > could be also good idea to automatically change the connection server > when server is "gmail.com" or "googlemail.com" to directly > "talk.google.com". To avoid manual changes for this server. we do it talk.google.com silently if nslookup is found. we could hardcode it though [check if gmail.com or googlemail.com and do it talk.google.com without waiting for nslookup], ticket it please. about lock manual changes, we don't have TYPE of account (sth like: "normal", "Gtalk") so we can't do that. > On the other hand I have looked to gajim meta contacts and I see that > you propose you own jabber roaster extensions called gajim:metacontacts. > Maybe could be good idea before release the 0.10 to try to talk with > jabber.org and crate a JEP and permit other programs to benefit of that. gajim:metacontacts? really? that's the old ns. Kev is supposed to be updating the JEP that Yann wrote. -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Meta-Buddy proposal
On 3/27/06, Nikos Kouremenos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Luckily (or not as you see it) Jabber has the concept of Priority. I > think (Yann correct me if I'm wrong) we always go for Jabber if > "contact is msn and jabber" and if more jabbers, we always go to > higher priority. ah sorry I enrich myself on the "or not" part. Priority is a great feature, but it's somehow hard to expose to everyday user [yes I agree that everyday use doesn't also know what multiple resources is and that it can do that (it's why I did not mind Yann wontfixing that ticket [see below]]. Yann didn't like associating priority with status (jabber: show) so we never did this automation. I'm again a bit sad on this as it means that most resources get to have prio 5 [our default] and it's up to the server to handle this situation: I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] he has 'work' and 'home' resources both with prio 5. server can send to last resource that got connected, send to both, or see the weather and decide.. I think most of the times, servers do 'most recently connected' resources which is safer than everything else [perhpas it could send to both that's safe too] anyways that's all. -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Meta-Buddy proposal
On 3/27/06, Pau Rodriguez Estivill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/27/06, Nikos Kouremenos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have to saiy I haven't use Gaim2 and a lot here haven't. so when you > > refer to Gaim2 please be more detailed. > > > Gaim 2 let the user to send the mesages directly to the buddy (but not yet > to the resource directly). On the other hand gaim allways reply to the last > buddy who send a missage. So If an user talks with me using Yahoo I will > reply to Yahoo but when the user change and starts to talk by jabber I will > follow his change and reply automaticly to the jabber. > > In Gaim 2 also apears the avatar for each buddy inside the meta-contact. > > The normal order of priority sould be first statuses by: Free4Chat, > avaliable, away, xa, offline. And then by priority when the statuses are the > same, and last the will be more priority for the resource who sends the last > iq. Isn't it? But will this is not the main part. Luckily (or not as you see it) Jabber has the concept of Priority. I think (Yann correct me if I'm wrong) we always go for Jabber if "contact is msn and jabber" and if more jabbers, we always go to higher priority. we allow via context menu to send to specific resource [so you can send to lower priority that way] > Ok, If it is implemented in SVN then maybe is not needed to change any > thing, because what you say is right. > I will take a look to SVN features. Thanks! Yes, Yann did a great job. Drag n drop once and that's it. I hope the JEP is soon published (of course someone has to repush Kev on an update :P as weekend has passed) -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Meta-Buddy proposal
I have to saiy I haven't use Gaim2 and a lot here haven't. so when you refer to Gaim2 please be more detailed. Now about the auto magic, it could be good but it could be also bad. those automations also spit a helper app that expalins what happend and says how to turn this off (but then again we're not word processor:P) Why I think this automation shouldn't be done in Gajim is this: I have Paul McCartney and I want to add Paul Thomas Andreson in my roster. McCartney I have him as 'paul' so I go to add PTA as 'paul' too. I add him (I dont remember or don't care that I have alreayd a paul). result: PTA is hidden under McCartney and I go listen to: "How do you sleep" of Lennon. unless I miss sth, I don't think we should do this automation. User can just drag and drop two pauls and we're sure he's surpised by automatiions. On 3/27/06, Pau Rodriguez-Estivill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Josef Kufner wrote: > > Pau Rodriguez-Estivill píše v Po 27. 03. 2006 v 17:02 +0200: > > > >> Hi! > >> I propose to automatic create a virtual Meta-Buddy (or meta-contact) > >> when a buddy has the same alias (name) and are in the same group. With > >> that people can have the same person accessible for different JID's and > >> in the same place inside the roaster. And by other hand the meta-buddy's > >> are automatically adopted and also does not need to create some strange > >> roaster structure. I haven't researched for possible extensions for > >> roaster but I think that normally people does not have 2 different > >> persons with the same alias (name) and in the same group, and when it > >> was is because it is the same person with different jids. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > > > > This is realy nice idea !! > > > > There should be some way to determine most usable contact to be used as > > default (when Metta-Buddy is selected -- for example: double clicked > > when opening chat). This wants simple and genial idea, how make roaster > > behaviour. > > > > > > > We can use as first idea the usage of Meta-Contacts of Gaim 2.0, it has > a good idea too to add some functionality for start chatting directly to > a specified resource instead of using the default priorities. > > For automatic usage could be implemented as in jabber by checking the > state, the priority, and time since last iq send as priorities while > check between 2 different jid's. But as said the possibility to send to > specified resource could be also for specified jid inside the meta-buddy > also. > > CU > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Contact names colors in roster window
I agree with Yann. this whole thing should be enalbed only if foo ACE is True and with a good 'did you know' entry in wiki some will use it (apart from you) and you'll always be sure that it will ship with whatever Gajim version and that you don't have to again fix your patch and all that [well only thing is that if most community doesn't use a feature, a feature could break without us wanting to, but that happens only sometimes] and if you're around you'll know it and perhpas even have a fix if this ever happens ;) On 3/27/06, Le Boulanger Yann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anton Shmigirilov wrote: > > Hello. > > > > I have implemented ability to show name of contact with specified (in > > theme) color depending on his presence status. I want to use this > > behavior of gajim and hope that it will be commited. > > > > But I don't want that is better: create new ticket in trac or send my > > patch here. On your site is written that I must subscribe this list. So, > > small patch attached :) > > > > I think such a feature should be optional. We already have status image > that shows status. And we should also add that in the configure theme > window. > > Yann > _______ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Memory leak in gajim-svn
mem increase can happen so dramatically only if you open new chat tabs. I don't know how and why, but what happend after some hours that was starting to drop? maybe we need to know more actions per hour as you can understand. perhaps do it on half an hour scale so you can know what you're doing. mem profiling is need here but anyways good think we now are in lower mem usage no matter what :D ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Memory leak in gajim-svn
On 3/13/06, Le Boulanger Yann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jonas Ådahl wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The new graph [1] seems much better! Would be interesting to know what > > makes it jump from around 50-55 MB to almost 85MB. > > > > /Jonas > > > > [1] http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~tox/gajimlogg2.png > What did you do at the time of big jump ? > maybe gajim accumulate messages ? Jonas, in both high ups you were sleeping? and yes maybe you had waiting messages during those times? (I mean maybe someone was talking to you at that time) and OT: that plotting can be done in Octave too [Matlab compat syntax] ;) -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Memory leak in gajim-svn
On 3/11/06, Jonas Ådahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I'm running the latest (atleast not more than a couple of days old) SVN > code, and I've noticed some really bad memory issues [1]. As you can see > in the graph something is happening between 10h and 15h and somewhere at > 32h. I didn't do anything with the client at 32h. I suspect that it > doesn't have anything to do with what I do with the client, since I was > sleeping from ~28h to 35h :P. hoh that's interesting unless you sleap walk (or I should say sleap use-ur-computer) can you try svn up, which remove psyco which results in Gajim using less memory? (and hopefully using it better) and tell us if the results remain. btw, how did you keep those stats and how did you produce from them the graph? thanks a lot -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Lots of crashes with windows gajim 0.9.1
yes moreover if you have completely uninstall 2.8 {so it's not used
for good} and u use only the GTK provided either with latest 2.6 gajim
or from gladewin32.sf.net 99% Gajim should work (at least from own
experience and rest of userbase)
On 3/9/06, Jonathan Ballet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I understand that this stdout is impossible with gtk 2.6, but that's the only
> thing I have :/
> As said, on Yann suggest, I move from 2.8 to 2.6. It went fine during some
> days, but sometimes I got those error.
>
> As I don't run Gajim with python.exe + --verbose flag, I don't have the
> output of all my crashes.
> However, I will try to have another output.
>
> I have 512mo, which are often all eaten (not by Gajim itself, hopefully ;)
>
>
> Nikos Kouremenos wrote:
> > Jonathan, it's impossible to have the same stdout with 2.6 as no cairo
> > there as you said. also how much RAM do you have? I ask this because I
> > never saw those problems with 2.6
> >
> > On 3/9/06, Jonathan Ballet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Nikos Kouremenos wrote:
> >>> On 3/9/06, Jonathan Ballet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> (gajim.py:224): Gdk-WARNING **:
> >>>> ../../../../gtk+/gdk/win32/gdkpixmap-win32.c:113: DeleteObject failed:
> >>>> ParamÞtre incorrect.
> >>>>
> >>>> (gajim.py:224): Gdk-CRITICAL **: _gdk_drawable_ref_cairo_surface:
> >>>> assertion `GDK_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable)' failed
> >>> BOOM. GTK 2.8 died. please use 2.6
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Nikos Kouremenos
> >> See ps, same problems with 2.6.
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nikos Kouremenos
>
> --
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Re: [Gajim-devel] Lots of crashes with windows gajim 0.9.1
Jonathan, it's impossible to have the same stdout with 2.6 as no cairo there as you said. also how much RAM do you have? I ask this because I never saw those problems with 2.6 On 3/9/06, Jonathan Ballet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nikos Kouremenos wrote: > > On 3/9/06, Jonathan Ballet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> (gajim.py:224): Gdk-WARNING **: > >> ../../../../gtk+/gdk/win32/gdkpixmap-win32.c:113: DeleteObject failed: > >> ParamÞtre incorrect. > >> > >> (gajim.py:224): Gdk-CRITICAL **: _gdk_drawable_ref_cairo_surface: > >> assertion `GDK_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable)' failed > > > > BOOM. GTK 2.8 died. please use 2.6 > > > > -- > > Nikos Kouremenos > > See ps, same problems with 2.6. > > -- > Jonathan Ballet - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _______ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Lots of crashes with windows gajim 0.9.1
On 3/9/06, Jonathan Ballet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (gajim.py:224): Gdk-WARNING **: > ../../../../gtk+/gdk/win32/gdkpixmap-win32.c:113: DeleteObject failed: > ParamÞtre incorrect. > > (gajim.py:224): Gdk-CRITICAL **: _gdk_drawable_ref_cairo_surface: assertion > `GDK_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable)' failed BOOM. GTK 2.8 died. please use 2.6 -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Lots of crashes with windows gajim 0.9.1
> Next time the installer is changed out like this, could an email be > sent to the list, or the page updated? That way I can know to change > my installed version. Yes that would have been nice if we thought of it then. :) Now since the problem was covered and chances are SOLVED in this thread at least reading this thread will solve problems of others. FWIW, if you want ot run bleeding edge Gajim (aka unstable) you can find info on gajim.org in Downalods page in Subversion section. atm site is down -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] Lots of crashes with windows gajim 0.9.1
On 3/8/06, Andrew Diederich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been using the windows version of gajim on XP for about two > months. Unfortunately it crashed several times a day, usually when I > get a toast for a new message. My suspicion is it's in the gtk > portion rather than the python portion, but that's mostly a guess. Please get latest revision of the exe which is built against GTK 2.6 now which is way stabler. We apologize but noone could guess 2.8 is so unstable in Windows. > I've noticed it gets slower as the day goes on, especially in actions > such as changing my presence with the toolbar on the bottom. I have > two active accounts on all the time, one an XCP server, and one a > wildfire server. I get a few chats an hour out of each account. Most > of the roster items have avatars, and several of the roster items are > through transports, so they use non-jabber icons. If you can reproduce this "slowness" with the latest revision of .9.1 maybe you would like to try SVN version then. > What information can I get you to help debug the problems? I loaded > the opera crash inspector program, so I could give you lots of those > if you want them. As you said it's GTK (sadly or not sadly). Thanks for using and caring about Gajim, Andrew -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] meta-contacts, different account
On 3/2/06, Yann Le Boulanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hector Miuler Malpica Gallegos wrote: > > Hi, the problem of meta user, says that to fixed in the revision [ to > > them 5556 ], but no. > > (http://trac.gajim.org/ticket/1596) > > in roster_window.py > > > > latest comment only says that the Traceback (2nd comment) is fixed. The > solution you explain won't work to do meta contacts across accounts: > nothing is implemented that for the moment. I wait news from the JEP I > wrote, because in JEP Mailing list, ppl sems to don't like the parent -> > child relation ... > > Yann how do you mean news? Did Peter (sabdfl) tell you should change THIS to THAT or he's expected to say this soon? -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
Re: [Gajim-devel] [patch] inconsistency in german translation
Yann, does your poor german allow you to see what is wrong? :P :P my very poor german do! :D :D so I give it away.. benutzer = user (benutzen funny pronnounciation :D) but we need Contact ;) On 2/26/06, Le Boulanger Yann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Prochaska wrote: > > hi! > > > > i've encountered a tiny inconsistency in the german translation of gajim > > version 0.9.1 (debian/unstable package). > > a patch is attached > > > > regards > > thomas prochaska > > > > > > > > > > diff -Naur gajim-0.9.1/po/de/LC_MESSAGES/gajim.po > > gajim-0.9.1-fixed/po/de/LC_MESSAGES/gajim.po > > --- gajim-0.9.1/po/de/LC_MESSAGES/gajim.po2005-12-27 01:07:46.0 > > +0100 > > +++ gajim-0.9.1-fixed/po/de/LC_MESSAGES/gajim.po 2006-02-26 > > 19:27:36.0 +0100 > > @@ -565,7 +565,7 @@ > > > > #: ../src/dialogs.py:842 ../src/gajim.py:408 ../src/notify.py:118 > > msgid "Contact Signed Out" > > -msgstr "Benutzer hat sich abgemeldet" > > +msgstr "Kontakt hat sich abgemeldet" > > > > #. chat message > > #: ../src/dialogs.py:847 ../src/gajim.py:489 ../src/notify.py:121 > > > > Thanks, it's applied. > > Yann > ___ > Gajim-devel mailing list > Gajim-devel@gajim.org > https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel > -- Nikos Kouremenos ___ Gajim-devel mailing list Gajim-devel@gajim.org https://lists.gajim.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/gajim-devel
