Re: [Audyssey] my oppinion to the game marked

2008-08-03 Thread Bryan Peterson
It is when the developer has a strict replacement polic and will only 
replace a set number of keys. Draconis only does that once and I think GMA 
twice.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my oppinion to the game marked


> not true, if you need to reformat then things should be ok.
> If your system breaks you need to email to get new keys for a new system 
> and it  is a pain but its not that bad really.
> At 11:04 p.m. 1/08/2008, you wrote:
>>I don't buy audio games anymore because developers are tying them to your
>>system.
>>If you have to reformat, or replace your hard drive you have to send in 
>>for
>>a new key.
>>That can get to be a pain after a while.
>>Most people I talk to feel the same way.
>>- Original Message - 
>>From: "John Bannick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: 
>>Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:16 PM
>>Subject: [Audyssey] my oppinion to the game marked
>>
>>
>>> Claudio,
>>>
>>> The reason that there are so few audio games being released is because
>>> very few people buy them, or even download the free audio games.
>>>
>>> I think it was Che sometime last year who was lamenting that his game,
>>> which has been spoken of well by people who play it, hadn't been
>>> downloaded as much as he'd hoped. And his game is free.
>>>
>>> As Thomas has said, programming games ain't easy. Even if you are doing 
>>> it
>>> for free, it takes a lot of effort. (Though Jim Kitchen seems to have
>>> found the sweet spot as far as designing games that can actually get
>>> finished.)
>>>
>>> And if you are trying to keep a company afloat, you go where the money 
>>> is.
>>> Otherwise your electricity gets cut off.
>>>
>>> On a positive note, here are some things you can do to make more audio
>>> games get built:
>>>
>>> 1. Buy some yourself.
>>> 2. Download free audio games and email thanks to their developer.
>>> 3. If you like a game, mention it to your friends.
>>> 4. Likewise, mention it to your library or schools.
>>>
>>> Supply will increase or decrease to meet demand.
>>>
>>> John Bannick
>>> CTO
>>> 7-128 Software
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day sound file question

2008-08-03 Thread Kevin Weispfennig
Hi,

How can i encrypt some files?
Music files?

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Re: [Audyssey] Games for your mobile device are finally here

2008-08-03 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Louis,

Please do remember that I suggested that you put your name not mine on any of 
my games such as Puppy1 that you remake since you are writing them from scratch 
and not using my code.

Thanks.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] puppy1 score

2008-08-03 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Matheus,

Cool! thank you very much for saying that you think Puppy1 is awesome.

Your 97 enemy planes shot down has me beat, nice job!  My best is still 90 in 
beginner and 77 in expert.

Thanks again and BFN

 Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Kevin,

Thanks, I didn't think that there were games like Puppy1 or Homer on a Harley 
out there.  Other than Monopoly version 8 Puppy1 and Homer on a Harley were my 
last two projects.  So at least I am trying to give us new, exciting and 
different games to play.

BFN

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Hi,

I never heard from a game like homer on a harley like. And Puppy1? I 
really don't know.

Kevin

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Re: [Audyssey] puppy1 score

2008-08-03 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi David,

101 enemies shot down, very nice!  And thanks, very glad to hear that you like 
Puppy1.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day sound file question

2008-08-03 Thread Kevin Weispfennig
Hi denetry

This is not a typical format. I think, liamerven has maked it.

Kevin


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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Munawar,
Well, from a programming standpoint DirectSound was replaced by XAudio2 
in the March 2008   DirectX SDK, and DirectSound was placed in the 
deprecated list of development libraries for DirectX. What this means 
for developers like you and I DirectSound will likely be kept in the 
runtime releases for XP/Vista/Win 7 for backward compatibility purposes, 
but future DirectSound development is scheduled to be removed from the 
SDK as soon as XAudio2 gets wider adoption by software developers.
As for the diferences between XNA and DirectSound it does depend on if 
you are using the managed XNA Framework or the unmanaged C++ libraries. 
If you are using the unmanaged XAudio2 library for C++ developers then 
it offers something similar to DirectSound. However, if you use the XNA 
Framework for Managed .NET developers then you are getting an extremely 
watered down SDK, and it doesn't have anything close to DirectSound 
features yet.
In fact, your point about being watered down is the primary reason 
Microsoft added XAudio2 to the March 2008 SDK. Apparently many 
mainstream game developers complained about XAudio for their PC games, 
wanting something like DirectSound, so Microsoft added XAudio2 which is 
now a core part of the DirectX/XNA   API for C++ developers.
If you read all the release notes for DirectX it is pretty evident 
Microsoft is redesigning DirectX, and XAudio2 is going to be a core part 
of Windows 7, and DirectSound will likely be their for backward 
compatibility purposes only. That is my take on it.

Munawar Bijani wrote:
> Hi,
> Is XNA really replacing DirectX in Windows 7? As far as I've heard about
> XNA--I haven't fiddled with the API at all--is that it lacks the powerful
> DirectSound capabilities because it's cross platform between Windows and
> XBOX; since XBOX isn't a full computing system, XNA had to be watered down
> to make it run on XBOX. As we know all too well, the limiting agent is the
> component that determines how much solution can be made. So if XNA really is
> replacing DirectX in Windows 7, that could mean bad news for developers.
> Munawar A. Bijani
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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Claudio,
I don't know. There are a lot of development similarities between games 
for the XBox 360 and Windows Vista/Windows 7. They both use XNA, they 
both use the .NET Framework, and the both are a type of Winhdows platform.
One major diference is that the XBox games are designed with XInput game 
controllers for the XBox and the PC versions obviously use keyboards and 
mice. So in order to run a XBox 360 game on Windows you would probably 
have to have an XBox 360 game controller hooked up to your PC.
Since I don't writeXBox 360 games I don't know what is involved in 
making games for the XBox other than the libraries that are used on the 
XBox.

Claudio wrote:
> Hello Thomas!
> Is it also possible to play XBoxGames on windows 7?
> Regards,
> Claudio.
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[Audyssey] rail racer

2008-08-03 Thread will lomas
Hi to all


Can i register the demo of rail racer?
I have a new mac with windows on it it is much faster so will need a  
new key.
I did purchase Rail Racer before
I know I have to contat Chea but I assume that i just get the demo  
install it, update to 1.4 and get a key?


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Re: [Audyssey] puppy1 score

2008-08-03 Thread David Standen
Hi Jim,
 No worries at all. Thanks so much for creating such a cool game.
David

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Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] puppy1 score


> Hi David,
>
> 101 enemies shot down, very nice!  And thanks, very glad to hear that you 
> like Puppy1.
>
> BFN
>
> Jim
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles,
It would be nice if Microsoft waited until their Windows releases were 
relatively stable before release, but their history has proven they 
always do otherwise. In 1995 Microsoft launched Windows 95 which was 
extremely unstable, was well known for major system crashes, and still 
used the Dos fat16 file system. In 1997 Microsoft rereleased Windows 95 
with fat32 file system support, several bug fixes, an upgraded Internet 
Explorer, and generally was much more stable and dependable. In 1998 
they launched Windows 98. Like 95 it had several bugs, constantly 
crashed, and was not a stable release. In 1999 Microsoft released 
Windows 98 SE which addressed and largely fixed bugs and issues in 98 
classic. In 2001 MS released Windows XP which had many issues that wer 
addressed in service pack 1. In 2007 Microsoft released Vista which 
definitely had many bugs that took them a year to correct in service 
pack 1, and still not all of the issues have been fixed yet. Bottom 
line Microsoft is well known for rushing software releases, and then fix 
the products the best they can at some later point. Usually one or two 
years of extra work would have produced a solid and stable release.
In fact, Microsoft's lack of software quality control is one reason I 
have stopped recommending, supporting, and buying their products. in 
general. When Apple released OS Leopard it was a rock solid, dependable, 
and powerful os with none of the bugs we see in Windows Vista. When 
Ubuntu released Ubuntu Linux 8.04 I haven't found many bugs in the 
operating system itself. Orca sometimes crashes unexpectedly, but it is 
no problem to restart Orca and continue on my way. I don't lose all of 
my data like I often do in Vista when the entire os crashes.
Bottom line here is that Microsoft is this huge, well known, popular 
software company who is allowed to repeatedly to sell extremely 
buggy,unstable, and undependable software products. Everyone else like 
Apple, Ubuntu Linux, Sun Solaris, etc do their best to make their 
operating systems stable, dependable, and as bug free as possible before 
they are released to the general public. Why everyone buys Microsoft 
stuff when they fail time and time again to address stability and errors 
early on is a mystery. There are more stable operating systems out there 
such as Mac OS Leopard, but the general public pays them no mind. I must 
shake my head in utter confusion.

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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jason,

Quote
If you're planning to program for multiple platforms, you're better off with
another language however. Don't be fooled, the cross platform support early
on in .NET is just smoke and mirrors.
End quote

What do you mean it is just smoke and mirrors? I'm using Mono 2 for 
Ubuntu Linux and the applications I am writing using it are very 
compatible with .NET Framework 2.0, 3.0, and 3.5 for Windows. I have 
written a handful of .NET applications that work very well both on Linux 
and Windows without major changes in the application source code.
Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] my oppinion to the game market

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan,
Not true. GMA will replace your keys more than twice. Last time I 
checked though you can only get so many key replacements per year. That 
is to make sure your not abusing your right to get key replacements.
As for Draconis none of their keys are hardware ids, and if you want a 
new key you have to pay a $5.00 key replacement fee. I don't think they 
limit you to the number of keys you can buy but it is extra money for 
extra keys.

Bryan Peterson wrote:
> It is when the developer has a strict replacement polic and will only 
> replace a set number of keys. Draconis only does that once and I think GMA 
> twice.
> Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.


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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Bryan Peterson
I seem to remember that they unveiled Windows 98 and it crashed right on 
National TV, although I can't remember on what program or network. I only 
remember my mom telling my dad about it. It actually made me laugh.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista


> Hi Charles,
> It would be nice if Microsoft waited until their Windows releases were
> relatively stable before release, but their history has proven they
> always do otherwise. In 1995 Microsoft launched Windows 95 which was
> extremely unstable, was well known for major system crashes, and still
> used the Dos fat16 file system. In 1997 Microsoft rereleased Windows 95
> with fat32 file system support, several bug fixes, an upgraded Internet
> Explorer, and generally was much more stable and dependable. In 1998
> they launched Windows 98. Like 95 it had several bugs, constantly
> crashed, and was not a stable release. In 1999 Microsoft released
> Windows 98 SE which addressed and largely fixed bugs and issues in 98
> classic. In 2001 MS released Windows XP which had many issues that wer
> addressed in service pack 1. In 2007 Microsoft released Vista which
> definitely had many bugs that took them a year to correct in service
> pack 1, and still not all of the issues have been fixed yet. Bottom
> line Microsoft is well known for rushing software releases, and then fix
> the products the best they can at some later point. Usually one or two
> years of extra work would have produced a solid and stable release.
> In fact, Microsoft's lack of software quality control is one reason I
> have stopped recommending, supporting, and buying their products. in
> general. When Apple released OS Leopard it was a rock solid, dependable,
> and powerful os with none of the bugs we see in Windows Vista. When
> Ubuntu released Ubuntu Linux 8.04 I haven't found many bugs in the
> operating system itself. Orca sometimes crashes unexpectedly, but it is
> no problem to restart Orca and continue on my way. I don't lose all of
> my data like I often do in Vista when the entire os crashes.
> Bottom line here is that Microsoft is this huge, well known, popular
> software company who is allowed to repeatedly to sell extremely
> buggy,unstable, and undependable software products. Everyone else like
> Apple, Ubuntu Linux, Sun Solaris, etc do their best to make their
> operating systems stable, dependable, and as bug free as possible before
> they are released to the general public. Why everyone buys Microsoft
> stuff when they fail time and time again to address stability and errors
> early on is a mystery. There are more stable operating systems out there
> such as Mac OS Leopard, but the general public pays them no mind. I must
> shake my head in utter confusion.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] my oppinion to the game market

2008-08-03 Thread Bryan Peterson
Actually I talkedd to them about it and they said one replacement. As for 
the replacement fee it's 25% of the game's original cost, so it actually 
ranges from five to eight dollars. I had to replace keys for all my Draconis 
titles at the start of this year and I talked to them about it. Personally I 
don't mind their policies much since their keys aren't hardware specific and 
so it's worth saving them to a thumb drive. But I still like BSC's 
replacement policy best since you get four replacements per title per year.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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> Hi Bryan,
> Not true. GMA will replace your keys more than twice. Last time I
> checked though you can only get so many key replacements per year. That
> is to make sure your not abusing your right to get key replacements.
> As for Draconis none of their keys are hardware ids, and if you want a
> new key you have to pay a $5.00 key replacement fee. I don't think they
> limit you to the number of keys you can buy but it is extra money for
> extra keys.
>
> Bryan Peterson wrote:
>> It is when the developer has a strict replacement polic and will only
>> replace a set number of keys. Draconis only does that once and I think 
>> GMA
>> twice.
>> Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Trouble
That was the show called CNet for some it came on USA channel over cable.

At 09:20 AM 8/3/2008, you wrote:
>I seem to remember that they unveiled Windows 98 and it crashed right on
>National TV, although I can't remember on what program or network. I only
>remember my mom telling my dad about it. It actually made me laugh.
>Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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>To: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list"
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>Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:47 AM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista
>
>
> > Hi Charles,
> > It would be nice if Microsoft waited until their Windows releases were
> > relatively stable before release, but their history has proven they
> > always do otherwise. In 1995 Microsoft launched Windows 95 which was
> > extremely unstable, was well known for major system crashes, and still
> > used the Dos fat16 file system. In 1997 Microsoft rereleased Windows 95
> > with fat32 file system support, several bug fixes, an upgraded Internet
> > Explorer, and generally was much more stable and dependable. In 1998
> > they launched Windows 98. Like 95 it had several bugs, constantly
> > crashed, and was not a stable release. In 1999 Microsoft released
> > Windows 98 SE which addressed and largely fixed bugs and issues in 98
> > classic. In 2001 MS released Windows XP which had many issues that wer
> > addressed in service pack 1. In 2007 Microsoft released Vista which
> > definitely had many bugs that took them a year to correct in service
> > pack 1, and still not all of the issues have been fixed yet. Bottom
> > line Microsoft is well known for rushing software releases, and then fix
> > the products the best they can at some later point. Usually one or two
> > years of extra work would have produced a solid and stable release.
> > In fact, Microsoft's lack of software quality control is one reason I
> > have stopped recommending, supporting, and buying their products. in
> > general. When Apple released OS Leopard it was a rock solid, dependable,
> > and powerful os with none of the bugs we see in Windows Vista. When
> > Ubuntu released Ubuntu Linux 8.04 I haven't found many bugs in the
> > operating system itself. Orca sometimes crashes unexpectedly, but it is
> > no problem to restart Orca and continue on my way. I don't lose all of
> > my data like I often do in Vista when the entire os crashes.
> > Bottom line here is that Microsoft is this huge, well known, popular
> > software company who is allowed to repeatedly to sell extremely
> > buggy,unstable, and undependable software products. Everyone else like
> > Apple, Ubuntu Linux, Sun Solaris, etc do their best to make their
> > operating systems stable, dependable, and as bug free as possible before
> > they are released to the general public. Why everyone buys Microsoft
> > stuff when they fail time and time again to address stability and errors
> > early on is a mystery. There are more stable operating systems out there
> > such as Mac OS Leopard, but the general public pays them no mind. I must
> > shake my head in utter confusion.
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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Bryan Peterson
Oh yeah. I think I remember now.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:57 AM
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> That was the show called CNet for some it came on USA channel over cable.
>
> At 09:20 AM 8/3/2008, you wrote:
>>I seem to remember that they unveiled Windows 98 and it crashed right on
>>National TV, although I can't remember on what program or network. I only
>>remember my mom telling my dad about it. It actually made me laugh.
>>Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list"
>>
>>Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:47 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista
>>
>>
>> > Hi Charles,
>> > It would be nice if Microsoft waited until their Windows releases were
>> > relatively stable before release, but their history has proven they
>> > always do otherwise. In 1995 Microsoft launched Windows 95 which was
>> > extremely unstable, was well known for major system crashes, and still
>> > used the Dos fat16 file system. In 1997 Microsoft rereleased Windows 95
>> > with fat32 file system support, several bug fixes, an upgraded Internet
>> > Explorer, and generally was much more stable and dependable. In 1998
>> > they launched Windows 98. Like 95 it had several bugs, constantly
>> > crashed, and was not a stable release. In 1999 Microsoft released
>> > Windows 98 SE which addressed and largely fixed bugs and issues in 98
>> > classic. In 2001 MS released Windows XP which had many issues that wer
>> > addressed in service pack 1. In 2007 Microsoft released Vista which
>> > definitely had many bugs that took them a year to correct in service
>> > pack 1, and still not all of the issues have been fixed yet. Bottom
>> > line Microsoft is well known for rushing software releases, and then 
>> > fix
>> > the products the best they can at some later point. Usually one or two
>> > years of extra work would have produced a solid and stable release.
>> > In fact, Microsoft's lack of software quality control is one reason I
>> > have stopped recommending, supporting, and buying their products. in
>> > general. When Apple released OS Leopard it was a rock solid, 
>> > dependable,
>> > and powerful os with none of the bugs we see in Windows Vista. When
>> > Ubuntu released Ubuntu Linux 8.04 I haven't found many bugs in the
>> > operating system itself. Orca sometimes crashes unexpectedly, but it is
>> > no problem to restart Orca and continue on my way. I don't lose all of
>> > my data like I often do in Vista when the entire os crashes.
>> > Bottom line here is that Microsoft is this huge, well known, popular
>> > software company who is allowed to repeatedly to sell extremely
>> > buggy,unstable, and undependable software products. Everyone else like
>> > Apple, Ubuntu Linux, Sun Solaris, etc do their best to make their
>> > operating systems stable, dependable, and as bug free as possible 
>> > before
>> > they are released to the general public. Why everyone buys Microsoft
>> > stuff when they fail time and time again to address stability and 
>> > errors
>> > early on is a mystery. There are more stable operating systems out 
>> > there
>> > such as Mac OS Leopard, but the general public pays them no mind. I 
>> > must
>> > shake my head in utter confusion.
>> >
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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Trouble
For a while the people had no choice in Microsoft products at least 
in ops, because they had contracts with all major manufacturers to be 
the op of PC's sold in stores and by dealers.
Now we do have some what of a choice.

At 08:47 AM 8/3/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Charles,
>It would be nice if Microsoft waited until their Windows releases were
>relatively stable before release, but their history has proven they
>always do otherwise. In 1995 Microsoft launched Windows 95 which was
>extremely unstable, was well known for major system crashes, and still
>used the Dos fat16 file system. In 1997 Microsoft rereleased Windows 95
>with fat32 file system support, several bug fixes, an upgraded Internet
>Explorer, and generally was much more stable and dependable. In 1998
>they launched Windows 98. Like 95 it had several bugs, constantly
>crashed, and was not a stable release. In 1999 Microsoft released
>Windows 98 SE which addressed and largely fixed bugs and issues in 98
>classic. In 2001 MS released Windows XP which had many issues that wer
>addressed in service pack 1. In 2007 Microsoft released Vista which
>definitely had many bugs that took them a year to correct in service
>pack 1, and still not all of the issues have been fixed yet. Bottom
>line Microsoft is well known for rushing software releases, and then fix
>the products the best they can at some later point. Usually one or two
>years of extra work would have produced a solid and stable release.
>In fact, Microsoft's lack of software quality control is one reason I
>have stopped recommending, supporting, and buying their products. in
>general. When Apple released OS Leopard it was a rock solid, dependable,
>and powerful os with none of the bugs we see in Windows Vista. When
>Ubuntu released Ubuntu Linux 8.04 I haven't found many bugs in the
>operating system itself. Orca sometimes crashes unexpectedly, but it is
>no problem to restart Orca and continue on my way. I don't lose all of
>my data like I often do in Vista when the entire os crashes.
>Bottom line here is that Microsoft is this huge, well known, popular
>software company who is allowed to repeatedly to sell extremely
>buggy,unstable, and undependable software products. Everyone else like
>Apple, Ubuntu Linux, Sun Solaris, etc do their best to make their
>operating systems stable, dependable, and as bug free as possible before
>they are released to the general public. Why everyone buys Microsoft
>stuff when they fail time and time again to address stability and errors
>early on is a mystery. There are more stable operating systems out there
>such as Mac OS Leopard, but the general public pays them no mind. I must
>shake my head in utter confusion.
>
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[Audyssey] MK vs dc universe discussion

2008-08-03 Thread Yohandy
well you see, problem is the game can't be of a mature rating due to the 
crossover. Midway has stated though that they have no problem pushing it as 
close to mature as possible without crossing the line. I heard superman 
being burned by scorpion and it didn't sound too good lol. midway also 
confirmed that the MK characters and dc vilins will have fatalities, and dc 
heroes will have brutalities. Only finishing moves they've shown is 
scorpion's tosty, and superman's brutality where he smashes you through the 
ground by punching the character on the head repeatedly. ouch! also those 
punches with musical notes you heard was the new close kombat mechanic. I'm 
guessing here the more damage you do the higher the tone gets.


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marked


> Yeah, they're keeping the main elements of MK in, but for example, they
> won't be able to have fatalities as we know them anymore, the DC Universe
> doesn't allow for big bloody gorey attacks. They've already confirmed 
> there
> won't be any fatalities as such, but instead sort of finisher attacks. I'm
> thinking they may have replaced them with brutalities of sorts, as the new
> name. And no more weapon combat, *cries*. haha. Anyway, I watched some E3
> gameplay videos on gamespot, and it all sounds amazing. They've even got
> powerful blows reinforced with musical notes in the background as they do
> sometimes in movies or in the DC animated series's. I wonder when they're
> going to finally set a release date?
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Re: [Audyssey] MK vs dc universe discussion

2008-08-03 Thread Shadow Dragon
Yeah, that's what I thought they were doing with brutalities. Haven't seen 
Scorpion's toasty. But yeah, can't wait to see what they come up with for 
fatalities and finishers since they can't use blood and gore now, haha. I 
definitely like how the environment seems to be even more interactive than 
it was in past games, should make things interesting. Now we just have to 
hope it stays playable and doesn't go into some crazy full 3d mode or 
something, lol. I think I heard somewhere they're using the unreal engine to 
make this game, and that makes me wonder a bit. 


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Re: [Audyssey] Judgment Day sound file question

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Kevin,
The topic of sound encryption methodology, theory, and technique is way 
beyond the scope of this list. It is not a simple topic to discuss, and 
there are somethings you need to understand such as a programming 
language, DirectX, etc before we can even get into the encryption stuff.

Kevin Weispfennig wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> How can i encrypt some files?
> Music files?
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [Audyssey] MK vs dc universe discussion

2008-08-03 Thread Yohandy
actually ed stated the game is more 2d orientated. you'll be able to duck, 
jump over projectiles etc, so I doubt we'd have a  problem with it.

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> Yeah, that's what I thought they were doing with brutalities. Haven't seen
> Scorpion's toasty. But yeah, can't wait to see what they come up with for
> fatalities and finishers since they can't use blood and gore now, haha. I
> definitely like how the environment seems to be even more interactive than
> it was in past games, should make things interesting. Now we just have to
> hope it stays playable and doesn't go into some crazy full 3d mode or
> something, lol. I think I heard somewhere they're using the unreal engine 
> to
> make this game, and that makes me wonder a bit.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan,
It sure did. I was attending Wright State University for my Computer 
Science degree att the time, and I can remember someone recorded it for 
computer and telecommunication services as a demo for next years network 
upgrades. Needless to say none of the CATS techs were to happy about 
that famous Windows 98 crash caught on national TV. As for myself I 
laughed my butt off.

Bryan Peterson wrote:
> I seem to remember that they unveiled Windows 98 and it crashed right on 
> National TV, although I can't remember on what program or network. I only 
> remember my mom telling my dad about it. It actually made me laugh.
> Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.


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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Trouble,
Well, what I meant to say is that I am confused as to wwhy people 
continue to buy Microsoft products. Yeah, I know full well in the mid 
90's up until the last few years there wasn't much of a choice. However, 
that has changed now, but most people are not willing to switch even 
though they know Microsoft's stuff is not very stable, and takes various 
service packs and updates before it really becomes reliable.
I guess it really comes down to the common psychilogical problem we all 
have is we hate change. We hate to learn something new, and you can't 
teach an old dog new tricks kind of thing going on. We are creatures of 
habit, and it takes something really major to change those hhabits.

Trouble wrote:
> For a while the people had no choice in Microsoft products at least 
> in ops, because they had contracts with all major manufacturers to be 
> the op of PC's sold in stores and by dealers.
> Now we do have some what of a choice.


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Re: [Audyssey] The Pipe games

2008-08-03 Thread nicol
Wow, I'm glad I'm not the only one who experiences this error!

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Subject: [Audyssey] The Pipe games

Hi Damian,
  I'm glad that you, too, enjoy this game. My favourite levels are the bonus
levels, as I love shooting the thug  . I managed to shoot him 10 times
when I played just recently. I also have Classic Pipe, but unfortunately I
came across a small problem. Luckily Justin was aware of this, and was going
to try and resolve it. If you are playing Level 12 on Easy Difficulty, and
your score is around the 180 mark, a run-time error occurs. I was able
to provide Justin with details of where I was at in the game, what I was
doing when the error occurred, etc, which was what he was after.
David



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Re: [Audyssey] Unbeatable games

2008-08-03 Thread nicol
Where can I get sonic invaders?

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Subject: [Audyssey] Unbeatable games

Hi Sean,
  I wouldn't let this bother you too much. After all, some games are
designed to be unbeatable. I will use Sonic Invaders as an example. If you
happen to get past Level 40, the game continues until you finally die. One
day I was able to get up to level 52. Mind you, I will probably never
achieve this feat ever again, but some of the levels are incredibly hard.
David



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Re: [Audyssey] fighting games was Re: my oppinion to the game marked

2008-08-03 Thread nicol
I thought acefire have been released as freeware.

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I think what the community really wants is complex games, and online
playability. I've played acefire, and it is fun, but I don't really like the
randomness aspect. If I beat an opponent, I wanted to be due to skill, not a
random number generator. I'm not criticizing the game in any way, just
putting my opinion out there. I've only played the demo mind you, but I
suspect the online version is almost identical, only with a real opponent
and not a computer player. Now if you were to create an actual fighting
game, and it had online playability, I'd be the first to buy it. I
absolutely love fighting games.  not sure why there haven't been any
fighting audiogames created,  I don't imagine it would be all that
difficult. Now we're on the subject, any of you checked out the Mortal
Kombat VS dc universe videos that have come out recently? The game sounds
absolutely amazing. I'll be buying a ps3 for sure in the next few months
mainly to play this game.



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Re: [Audyssey] Chopper Challenge installation problems

2008-08-03 Thread nicol
Where can I get this game and is it free?

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Hi,
  Unfortunately, I am experiencing problems installing Chopper Challenge
version 1.2. When I attempt to install the game, I receive the following
error message: "The system files are corrupted. Please obtain another copy
of the program." Has anyone else experienced this problem? Before my laptop
bit the dust in January, I was able to play this game on it just fine, but
ever since I have had this pc, the installation will not work. I really
enjoyed playing this game on the laptop, and hope to play it on this machine
one day 
David
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[Audyssey] what's up, phil?

2008-08-03 Thread nicol
Hi phil
You're very quiet.  What's up?


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Re: [Audyssey] my oppinion to the game marked

2008-08-03 Thread nicol
Quote
I think it was Che sometime last year who was lamenting that his game,
which has been spoken of well by people who play it, hadn't been
downloaded as much as he'd hoped. And his game is free.
End quote
Che's game is not free! Che's game is rail racer! Its not free! You have to
pay for it! grin!


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Claudio,

The reason that there are so few audio games being released is because
very few people buy them, or even download the free audio games.

I think it was Che sometime last year who was lamenting that his game,
which has been spoken of well by people who play it, hadn't been
downloaded as much as he'd hoped. And his game is free.

As Thomas has said, programming games ain't easy. Even if you are doing it
for free, it takes a lot of effort. (Though Jim Kitchen seems to have
found the sweet spot as far as designing games that can actually get
finished.)

And if you are trying to keep a company afloat, you go where the money is.
Otherwise your electricity gets cut off.

On a positive note, here are some things you can do to make more audio
games get built:

1. Buy some yourself.
2. Download free audio games and email thanks to their developer.
3. If you like a game, mention it to your friends.
4. Likewise, mention it to your library or schools.

Supply will increase or decrease to meet demand.

John Bannick
CTO
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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread nicol
When was windows 3.1 released?
Is there any screen readers that worked with windows 3.1?
Are there still people who use windows 3.1 today?

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Hi Charles,
It would be nice if Microsoft waited until their Windows releases were
relatively stable before release, but their history has proven they
always do otherwise. In 1995 Microsoft launched Windows 95 which was
extremely unstable, was well known for major system crashes, and still
used the Dos fat16 file system. In 1997 Microsoft rereleased Windows 95
with fat32 file system support, several bug fixes, an upgraded Internet
Explorer, and generally was much more stable and dependable. In 1998
they launched Windows 98. Like 95 it had several bugs, constantly
crashed, and was not a stable release. In 1999 Microsoft released
Windows 98 SE which addressed and largely fixed bugs and issues in 98
classic. In 2001 MS released Windows XP which had many issues that wer
addressed in service pack 1. In 2007 Microsoft released Vista which
definitely had many bugs that took them a year to correct in service
pack 1, and still not all of the issues have been fixed yet. Bottom
line Microsoft is well known for rushing software releases, and then fix
the products the best they can at some later point. Usually one or two
years of extra work would have produced a solid and stable release.
In fact, Microsoft's lack of software quality control is one reason I
have stopped recommending, supporting, and buying their products. in
general. When Apple released OS Leopard it was a rock solid, dependable,
and powerful os with none of the bugs we see in Windows Vista. When
Ubuntu released Ubuntu Linux 8.04 I haven't found many bugs in the
operating system itself. Orca sometimes crashes unexpectedly, but it is
no problem to restart Orca and continue on my way. I don't lose all of
my data like I often do in Vista when the entire os crashes.
Bottom line here is that Microsoft is this huge, well known, popular
software company who is allowed to repeatedly to sell extremely
buggy,unstable, and undependable software products. Everyone else like
Apple, Ubuntu Linux, Sun Solaris, etc do their best to make their
operating systems stable, dependable, and as bug free as possible before
they are released to the general public. Why everyone buys Microsoft
stuff when they fail time and time again to address stability and errors
early on is a mystery. There are more stable operating systems out there
such as Mac OS Leopard, but the general public pays them no mind. I must
shake my head in utter confusion.

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Re: [Audyssey] AGM was my oppinion to the game market

2008-08-03 Thread nicol
Hi thom
Does one need an understanding of programming languages or mathematics  in
order to use  genesis 3d?
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Hi Kevin,
We have not set a price for Genesis 3D at this time. First we need to
finish developing it and make sure everything works properly before we
can proceed how to market it, and deal with licensing the technology to
third-party developers.
The main issue is when we license the technology to third-party game
developers it could potentially create hundreds of new accessible games
for blind gamers. We need to make sure we can proffet from all of these
new games, and get paid for our part in providing the core technology
for all of the new games. It certainly won't bee free, and it will be
designed for someone wanting to start his/her own part time game company
out of it.
One way we might be able to do this is sell the games through our web
site for the third-party developers, and then collect say 25% of the
proffet from the sales. If you sell $1000 in game sales we would take
$250 for licensing fees, and the use of our shopping cqart and other
services. This is how normal business partnerships like this works, and
both you and I would get paid for the use of Genesis.




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Re: [Audyssey] my oppinion to the game marked

2008-08-03 Thread nicol
Can you put mac os on any pc or do you need a special pc for mac os?

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Hi Ryan and all,
Well, sometimes giving your source to someone you trust isn't safe. Back
when Mac OS was going graphical in the early 90's Apple hired Microsoft,
Bill Gates and his gang, to fix and add features to the newest version
ofMac OS. Even though they had legal agreements up the butt, a friendly
working relationship at that time, it turned out to be a mistake for
Appple. As soon as Microsoft finished with their end of the deal they
turned right around and stole, well, legally took all of the updates
they just put in Mac OS plus all of Apples ideas and put them into
Windows. Microsoft ended up getting all the glory for the features, and
Mac OS looked like copy cats when it was their ideas and features to
begin with.
However, one big diference that were not lost on the true techies is
that the wripped off Mac OS graphical user interface, we call Windows
95, was much less stable than Mac OS that was released for Apples' own
desktops at the same time. Mac OS has always been more stable and better
designed than Windows, but they made many mistakes like that one that
allowed Windows 95 to be marketed with their own ideas, features, and
graphics technologies at that time.



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Re: [Audyssey] Chopper Challenge installation problems

2008-08-03 Thread nicol
This error is most likely caused if you are using a download manager.
At the start of downloading a file the file is already created.
Lets say you download a file of 40 mb so while in the download manager
window  when you hear jaws say 0 percent,   if you go to the directory where
you download the file, you will  hear jaws say that the file is 40 mb in
size although the download process only started.
So if you stop the download process and you click on that file you will get
the message that the setup files is corrupted.
So my suggestion is, not to abort the downloading process.
I'm using free download manager. There is a checkbox which says launch
download when complete. And there is another checkbox which says: close
dialogue when complete. So when these boxers are ticked, you will know when
the download is completed.
If you want to pause the download in the case where you want to go to bed
and turn off your pc, if you click on stop, free download manager will save
the point where you stopped.
Next time you just go to free download manager via the programs menu and  at
the top of the list it will show the file that was paused, so you can  just
choose start download from the download pull down menu.   hth
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Hi,
  Unfortunately, I am experiencing problems installing Chopper Challenge
version 1.2. When I attempt to install the game, I receive the following
error message: "The system files are corrupted. Please obtain another copy
of the program." Has anyone else experienced this problem? Before my laptop
bit the dust in January, I was able to play this game on it just fine, but
ever since I have had this pc, the installation will not work. I really
enjoyed playing this game on the laptop, and hope to play it on this machine
one day 
David
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Re: [Audyssey] old game companies we have not heard much about

2008-08-03 Thread Valiant8086
Hi.
Do they intend, as far as you've heard, to work on resource intensiveness? 
The primary reason i'm running xp still, other than the audio limitations, 
is I find vista slow. Jaws isn't as responsive there. I can't arrow quickly 
around because when I hit the top or bottom edge of my screen it then takes 
a while to scroll the entire screen and let me read the next line, slowing 
me down rediculously. Everyone claims vista is one blazing fast OS, how 
wrong they are. I've tried it on three different laptops and they've all 
done the same thing. One has a 1.8ghz core2duo, the next had a 1.81ghz 
turion64x2, and this one here has a core2duo 1.66ghz. this one is much 
better than the other two because I suppose vista business has a lower 
footprint and runs fewer processes. No media center to take care of and 
what? I don't know, i'm really disapointed though, you'd think ms'd be 
trying to really make it go fast, smaller, faster, easier. Oh, and do you 
know it takes me more steps to connect to the internet on vista? I need less 
steps in xp. Start menu, network connections, hit enter on wireless network 
connection, ok a little more than two but the option to do these things is 
berried unvariably deeper in vista than it is in xp. It's not more user 
friendly for me, except for the windows update feature which rocks. And, 
every time I want to connect to my school's dual t1 on vista I have to 
repair my local area network connection for some reason. In xp on the same 
computer I connect automatically. Speaking of computers, on this vaio here, 
whic h came with vista and now runs both vista and xp, on both opperating 
systems, when I run direct x stuff, like GMA shades of dooom, yes I put 
the extra o's in there on purpose, the stereo spectrum is really messed up. 
I think it tries to simulate surround sound. The result is when something is 
in front of me it's really hard to line myself up on it because it just 
sounds like it's in the center all the time. It's not like this with my 
other computers. If I walk up the hall, i'll heer the bleepbleepbleep noise, 
it sounds like the door is right in front of me. As I keep walking, the 
difference happens for one step here, the door will be completely on my left 
or completely on my right, if that makes sence, as I keep going I can hear 
what should have happened in the opposit as I approached. The door's sound 
will get quieter with each step I take and it will begin to sound more and 
more like it's directly behind me, but not quite make it before I can't hear 
the indicater for the door at all. Anyone know why they do that on this 
computer and what I can do about it? Clango does this too, even with the 
SAPI voices, when something is on the far right, it sounds like it's close 
to the cenbter but has  some effect applied to it that sorta makes it sound 
like it's behind me. I think some people would like this but I dislike it 
with a passion. Oh and btw I have shades of doom set to stereo, not surround 
sound or what ever.
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> Hi Aaron,
> From what I have been told by my sources about Windows 7 I think it
> will be much more satisfactory than Vista. It is my understanding
> Microsoft wanted to get Vista out the door asap, and so it was rushed to
> production. Its new driver library, bugs, and other things hadn't been
> fully completed when it was initially released. They basically hoped
> they could address all the issues in service packs and through the
> Windows update service. In my personal opinion this is a dirty way to do
> business, but it is how they did it to get some initial up front capital.
> However, now they have Vista to tide them over financially what they are
> doing is working on addressing all the issues, bugs, and driver problems
> with Vista and putting them into service packs for Vista users. Those
> service packs are also being applied to Windows 7 which is basically
> going to be Windows Vista with all the bugs, issues, and service packs
> installed. Oh, they will probably add in afew extras like new wall
> papers, sounds, icons, themes, a new feature here or there, but I have
> been told it is not going to be a major upgrade. More of a Windows Vista
> with a new look and feel, and with many bug fixes and patches installed
> by default.
> Also for us programmers they are of course going to be removing many of
> the older libraries that have been around for ages, that are no longer
> needed, and are replacing them with the updated .NET Framework, XNA is
> going to basically replace DirectX as the core gaming API, and various
> other changes that are available for Vista, but weren't necessarily
> ready to ship with Vista last year. For example the XAudio2 library was
> just released this year, and now officially replaces D

[Audyssey] Genesis 3D was AGM

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Nicol,
No, there is no need to learn to program or have good math skills to 
create games using Genesis 3D. Most of the design is through a level 
editor, and you will likely have to edit the level xml files to give it 
the names of what music tracks to play, names of what sound file is 
played when an action is performed, etc. For example, when a player 
shoots a weapon you might edit an xml line like

to read like

which is basically just giving the PlayerFire variable the directory and 
file name to be used for the PlayerFire action.
Anyway, all of this will be explained in depth once I am ready to 
release Genesis 3D to the public.That won't be for quite a long time yet 
as I have two games to finish first, and then I have months development 
and testing before Genesis will be ready for anything like public 
consumption.

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Re: [Audyssey] my oppinion to the game market

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Nicol,
No, unfortunately Mac OS only runs on Macs. if you want to use Mac OS 
you should idealy get a MacBook.

nicol wrote:
> Can you put mac os on any pc or do you need a special pc for mac os?


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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Nicol,
Windows 3.1 was released around 1993. As for screen readers for 3.1 
there was Jaws for Windows 1.x, Jaws 2.0, and Slimware Window Bridge. I 
believe the first versions of Window Eyes came out around that time as well.
As for the question, "is anyone still running it," I certainly hope not. 
We are talking about a Windows interface that ran over MS Dos 6, and was 
designed for I286, I386, and I486 computers. We are talking slower than 
a turtle with three broken legs, and hard drives that were 100 to 500 MB 
if you were lucky. As far as memory goes if you had 4 MB of ram in your 
computer back then you were like a computer god. Most were lucky to have 
1 MB ram. Grin.

nicol wrote:
> When was windows 3.1 released?
> Is there any screen readers that worked with windows 3.1?
> Are there still people who use windows 3.1 today?


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Re: [Audyssey] MK vs dc universe discussion

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
Yeah, that always helps. Also I think because the game is more hand to 
hand combat oriented it might make it fairly accessible on the combat 
end as well. I wish I had the cash for a PS3 as I am really excited 
about this new game. My only complaint is they are making Super Dude 
weaker to balance him out against the other characters in the game. Gr.



Yohandy wrote:
> actually ed stated the game is more 2d orientated. you'll be able to duck, 
> jump over projectiles etc, so I doubt we'd have a  problem with it.


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Re: [Audyssey] Chopper Challenge installation problems

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Nicol,
You can get the game from
http://www.x-sight-interactive.net


nicol wrote:
> Where can I get this game and is it free?


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Re: [Audyssey] rail racer

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Will,
No. When you get Rail Racer Che will direct you to a private download 
area where you get the full version of RR. After you download and 
install it you install the patch and register it. That is assuming your 
setup file is 1.3 or an earlier release. I am sure Che has updated the 
official RR download to 1.4 by now.

will lomas wrote:
>   Hi to all
> 
> 
> Can i register the demo of rail racer?
> I have a new mac with windows on it it is much faster so will need a  
> new key.
> I did purchase Rail Racer before
> I know I have to contat Chea but I assume that i just get the demo  
> install it, update to 1.4 and get a key?
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Re: [Audyssey] rail racer

2008-08-03 Thread will lomas
and where do i get dot net framework thomas please?
Off your site now I only find direct x nine c which i already have

On 3 Aug 2008, at 20:49, Thomas Ward wrote:

> Hi Will,
> No. When you get Rail Racer Che will direct you to a private download
> area where you get the full version of RR. After you download and
> install it you install the patch and register it. That is assuming  
> your
> setup file is 1.3 or an earlier release. I am sure Che has updated the
> official RR download to 1.4 by now.
>
> will lomas wrote:
>>  Hi to all
>>
>>
>> Can i register the demo of rail racer?
>> I have a new mac with windows on it it is much faster so will need a
>> new key.
>> I did purchase Rail Racer before
>> I know I have to contat Chea but I assume that i just get the demo
>> install it, update to 1.4 and get a key?
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Re: [Audyssey] old game companies we have not heard much about

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Aaron,
I don't think there is going to be any major performence changes in 
Windows 7. The thing is in my own personal experience with Windows Vista 
if you want it to run smoothly you need no less than a 3 GHZ processor 
and 1 GB of ram. If you want it to run better get a faster processor and 
double the ram to 2 GB. Vista and Windows 7 were never designed to run 
on 1 GHZ and 2 GHZ systems, and for whatever the reason Microsoft 
falsified and under stated Vista's system requirements to in sure sales 
with people running older XP systems. What few people are realising is 
instead of smaller faster, etc Vista and Windows 7 are larger, more 
graphical, and need far more system resources than XP because they need 
all that for the 3D desktop, 3D animated icons, and the other crap they 
added to the os. There really isn't a good way to improve system 
performence unless MS decides to yank out all the new 3D graphics 
technology, gadgets, etc that comes with Vista.


Valiant8086 wrote:
> Hi.
> Do they intend, as far as you've heard, to work on resource intensiveness? 
> The primary reason i'm running xp still, other than the audio limitations, 
> is I find vista slow. Jaws isn't as responsive there. I can't arrow quickly 
> around because when I hit the top or bottom edge of my screen it then takes 
> a while to scroll the entire screen and let me read the next line, slowing 
> me down rediculously. Everyone claims vista is one blazing fast OS, how 
> wrong they are. I've tried it on three different laptops and they've all 
> done the same thing. One has a 1.8ghz core2duo, the next had a 1.81ghz 
> turion64x2, and this one here has a core2duo 1.66ghz. this one is much 
> better than the other two because I suppose vista business has a lower 
> footprint and runs fewer processes. No media center to take care of and 
> what? I don't know, i'm really disapointed though, you'd think ms'd be 
> trying to really make it go fast, smaller, faster, easier. Oh, and do you 
> know it takes me more steps to connect to the internet on vista? I need less 
> steps in xp. Start menu, network connections, hit enter on wireless network 
> connection, ok a little more than two but the option to do these things is 
> berried unvariably deeper in vista than it is in xp. It's not more user 
> friendly for me, except for the windows update feature which rocks. And, 
> every time I want to connect to my school's dual t1 on vista I have to 
> repair my local area network connection for some reason.


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Re: [Audyssey] rail racer

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
You can download .NET 3.5 at
http://www.usagames.us/downloads/requirements/dotnet/windows/
Cheers.

will lomas wrote:
> and where do i get dot net framework thomas please?
> Off your site now I only find direct x nine c which i already have
> 
> On 3 Aug 2008, at 20:49, Thomas Ward wrote:
> 
>> Hi Will,
>> No. When you get Rail Racer Che will direct you to a private download
>> area where you get the full version of RR. After you download and
>> install it you install the patch and register it. That is assuming  
>> your
>> setup file is 1.3 or an earlier release. I am sure Che has updated the
>> official RR download to 1.4 by now.


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[Audyssey] dead to rights

2008-08-03 Thread chou.clement
Mortal Kombat has really never posed a problem in terms of accessibility, 
unless you count the minigames that are in there where you need to go to 
unlock characters.

On another topic, there's a shooter that comes from Namco, the same company 
responsible from Tekken, Soul Calibur, Time Crisis, and other wonderful 
games like that. It's called dead to rights. The neat thing about this 
shooter is its auto-aim... by holding r1, you can get a bead on an enemy.. 
just hit the fire button and wham. And it also sports an endless health 
cheat.. which means this game could be pretty playable.
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> Hi,
> Yeah, that always helps. Also I think because the game is more hand to
> hand combat oriented it might make it fairly accessible on the combat
> end as well. I wish I had the cash for a PS3 as I am really excited
> about this new game. My only complaint is they are making Super Dude
> weaker to balance him out against the other characters in the game. 
> Gr.
>
>
>
> Yohandy wrote:
>> actually ed stated the game is more 2d orientated. you'll be able to 
>> duck,
>> jump over projectiles etc, so I doubt we'd have a  problem with it.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] MK Versus DC

2008-08-03 Thread Shadow Dragon
MK has never posed a problem true, but that doesn't mean it will always 
remain so. Times are changing, the fighting game genre, sadly, is dying. 2d 
and 3d alike. Its all in the FPS and RPG market now. But I'm glad MK Versus 
DC has been confirmed as more like a 2d fighter at least, would hate to miss 
out on something this awesome. 


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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Trouble
No, its the fact that at least 60% of the computer users are mousers, 
and don't know how to type. they were taught how just did think they 
would use or need it down the road. And the fact that linix is 
command line mostly and that kills if for those that don't like 
typing or don't spell. They get to hate that frays "Bad command or 
file name, over and over".

At 01:19 PM 8/3/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Trouble,
>Well, what I meant to say is that I am confused as to wwhy people
>continue to buy Microsoft products. Yeah, I know full well in the mid
>90's up until the last few years there wasn't much of a choice. However,
>that has changed now, but most people are not willing to switch even
>though they know Microsoft's stuff is not very stable, and takes various
>service packs and updates before it really becomes reliable.
>I guess it really comes down to the common psychilogical problem we all
>have is we hate change. We hate to learn something new, and you can't
>teach an old dog new tricks kind of thing going on. We are creatures of
>habit, and it takes something really major to change those hhabits.
>
>Trouble wrote:
> > For a while the people had no choice in Microsoft products at least
> > in ops, because they had contracts with all major manufacturers to be
> > the op of PC's sold in stores and by dealers.
> > Now we do have some what of a choice.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Trouble,
Not true. Many Linux distributions such as Ubuntu are just as graphical 
as Windows. Both the KDE and Gnome desktops resembles MS Windows in a 
lot of ways.it is safe to say anyone who can use MS Windows can easily 
use a Linux distribution such as Ubuntu without too much of a learning 
curve. You click on Computer and it brings up a file explorer like My 
Computer, click on the Gnome application button on the main pannel and 
you get a start menu, click on home and you get your personal 
directories, etc. This stuff isn't rocket science.
The mere fact you stated that Linux is mostly command line driven just 
proves my point how wofully uneducated people are about other operating 
systems, and they certainly haven't been keeping up to date with changes 
in technology outside of the Windows only world. Fact is all three of 
the major operating systems Linux, Windows, and Mac OS have about equal 
graphical user interfaces with screen readers that work with them.
I do know there are some users, such as those on the speakup list, that 
still are die-hard Linux command line users. Do remember it is their 
choice to use a command line only environment, and not a technological 
reason. A Linux user such as myself can quite easily live without the 
command line for most things.


Trouble wrote:
> No, its the fact that at least 60% of the computer users are mousers, 
> and don't know how to type. they were taught how just did think they 
> would use or need it down the road. And the fact that linix is 
> command line mostly and that kills if for those that don't like 
> typing or don't spell. They get to hate that frays "Bad command or 
> file name, over and over".


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Re: [Audyssey] MK Versus DC

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
I know, The fighting games have just about gone as far as they can go, 
and it is not  an extremely popular style of game to begin with. The 
market seams really geared for first person, third person, and RPG games 
mostly now days. Even our own little accessible community is looking for 
more in those catagories.
Anyway, this really is a cool concept. I like the entire MK vs DC idea. 
I of course would be the DC universe characters as I have always been a 
fan of DC stuff. Smile.


Shadow Dragon wrote:
> MK has never posed a problem true, but that doesn't mean it will always 
> remain so. Times are changing, the fighting game genre, sadly, is dying. 2d 
> and 3d alike. Its all in the FPS and RPG market now. But I'm glad MK Versus 
> DC has been confirmed as more like a 2d fighter at least, would hate to miss 
> out on something this awesome. 
> 
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Re: [Audyssey] dead to rights

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
Yeah, sounds like it. Is this game for the PS2? I'd like to rent it and 
try it out sometime.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Mortal Kombat has really never posed a problem in terms of accessibility, 
> unless you count the minigames that are in there where you need to go to 
> unlock characters.
> 
> On another topic, there's a shooter that comes from Namco, the same company 
> responsible from Tekken, Soul Calibur, Time Crisis, and other wonderful 
> games like that. It's called dead to rights. The neat thing about this 
> shooter is its auto-aim... by holding r1, you can get a bead on an enemy.. 
> just hit the fire button and wham. And it also sports an endless health 
> cheat.. which means this game could be pretty playable.'



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Re: [Audyssey] MK Versus DC

2008-08-03 Thread chou.clement
Personally, if it was me the next style I'd go for after fighting games is 
brawlers. We've seen so many one on one fighting games, but there's not a 
lot of the multi-opponent stage-based brawling we see in games like Urban 
Reign, Power stone, etc.
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> Hi,
> I know, The fighting games have just about gone as far as they can go,
> and it is not  an extremely popular style of game to begin with. The
> market seams really geared for first person, third person, and RPG games
> mostly now days. Even our own little accessible community is looking for
> more in those catagories.
> Anyway, this really is a cool concept. I like the entire MK vs DC idea.
> I of course would be the DC universe characters as I have always been a
> fan of DC stuff. Smile.
>
>
> Shadow Dragon wrote:
>> MK has never posed a problem true, but that doesn't mean it will always
>> remain so. Times are changing, the fighting game genre, sadly, is dying. 
>> 2d
>> and 3d alike. Its all in the FPS and RPG market now. But I'm glad MK 
>> Versus
>> DC has been confirmed as more like a 2d fighter at least, would hate to 
>> miss
>> out on something this awesome.
>>
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] dead to rights

2008-08-03 Thread chou.clement
This game is for the ps2.
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> Hi,
> Yeah, sounds like it. Is this game for the PS2? I'd like to rent it and
> try it out sometime.
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Mortal Kombat has really never posed a problem in terms of accessibility,
>> unless you count the minigames that are in there where you need to go to
>> unlock characters.
>>
>> On another topic, there's a shooter that comes from Namco, the same 
>> company
>> responsible from Tekken, Soul Calibur, Time Crisis, and other wonderful
>> games like that. It's called dead to rights. The neat thing about this
>> shooter is its auto-aim... by holding r1, you can get a bead on an 
>> enemy..
>> just hit the fire button and wham. And it also sports an endless health
>> cheat.. which means this game could be pretty playable.'
>
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Games for your mobile device are finally here

2008-08-03 Thread louis
Hi. Thanks, however Puppy1 is your idea, so therefore I cannot do that. In 
the manuals, especially for a game like Chopper Challenge, I give Damien 
Sadler and Michael credit for it, and say ported to WM by me. So for Puppy1, 
I'll say game written by Jim Kitchen, and ported to the WIndows Mobile OS by 
Louis Bryant from BrailleSoft, INC. That's only fair, and I am a bruitally 
honest guy. HTH.

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> Hi Louis,
>
> Please do remember that I suggested that you put your name not mine on any 
> of my games such as Puppy1 that you remake since you are writing them from 
> scratch and not using my code.
>
> Thanks.
>
> BFN
>
> Jim
>
> If it doesn't say Kitchen's Inc on it. Someone else made it.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] MK Versus DC

2008-08-03 Thread Bryan Peterson
I'm not a huge fan of fighting games but I can't lie. I love a good fight 
from time to time. That's why I was so excited about Danger City.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MK Versus DC


> Personally, if it was me the next style I'd go for after fighting games is
> brawlers. We've seen so many one on one fighting games, but there's not a
> lot of the multi-opponent stage-based brawling we see in games like Urban
> Reign, Power stone, etc.
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>
>> Hi,
>> I know, The fighting games have just about gone as far as they can go,
>> and it is not  an extremely popular style of game to begin with. The
>> market seams really geared for first person, third person, and RPG games
>> mostly now days. Even our own little accessible community is looking for
>> more in those catagories.
>> Anyway, this really is a cool concept. I like the entire MK vs DC idea.
>> I of course would be the DC universe characters as I have always been a
>> fan of DC stuff. Smile.
>>
>>
>> Shadow Dragon wrote:
>>> MK has never posed a problem true, but that doesn't mean it will always
>>> remain so. Times are changing, the fighting game genre, sadly, is dying.
>>> 2d
>>> and 3d alike. Its all in the FPS and RPG market now. But I'm glad MK
>>> Versus
>>> DC has been confirmed as more like a 2d fighter at least, would hate to
>>> miss
>>> out on something this awesome.
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread louis
Hi. Any guides out there for a blind person to install and use Linux? I'd 
like to get a Linux distribution running on my computer, and Oralux doesn't 
seem to no longer be supported. HTH/.
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> Hi Trouble,
> Well, what I meant to say is that I am confused as to wwhy people
> continue to buy Microsoft products. Yeah, I know full well in the mid
> 90's up until the last few years there wasn't much of a choice. However,
> that has changed now, but most people are not willing to switch even
> though they know Microsoft's stuff is not very stable, and takes various
> service packs and updates before it really becomes reliable.
> I guess it really comes down to the common psychilogical problem we all
> have is we hate change. We hate to learn something new, and you can't
> teach an old dog new tricks kind of thing going on. We are creatures of
> habit, and it takes something really major to change those hhabits.
>
> Trouble wrote:
>> For a while the people had no choice in Microsoft products at least
>> in ops, because they had contracts with all major manufacturers to be
>> the op of PC's sold in stores and by dealers.
>> Now we do have some what of a choice.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread aiden gardiner
hi Louis,

Go to

http://www.digitaldarragh.com/linuxat.asp

Hope this helps,

Aiden
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> Hi. Any guides out there for a blind person to install and use Linux? I'd
> like to get a Linux distribution running on my computer, and Oralux 
> doesn't
> seem to no longer be supported. HTH/.
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> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista
>
>
>> Hi Trouble,
>> Well, what I meant to say is that I am confused as to wwhy people
>> continue to buy Microsoft products. Yeah, I know full well in the mid
>> 90's up until the last few years there wasn't much of a choice. However,
>> that has changed now, but most people are not willing to switch even
>> though they know Microsoft's stuff is not very stable, and takes various
>> service packs and updates before it really becomes reliable.
>> I guess it really comes down to the common psychilogical problem we all
>> have is we hate change. We hate to learn something new, and you can't
>> teach an old dog new tricks kind of thing going on. We are creatures of
>> habit, and it takes something really major to change those hhabits.
>>
>> Trouble wrote:
>>> For a while the people had no choice in Microsoft products at least
>>> in ops, because they had contracts with all major manufacturers to be
>>> the op of PC's sold in stores and by dealers.
>>> Now we do have some what of a choice.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread shaun everiss
most stuff is writen for microsoft, and everything business has traditionally 
been ms.
these things are hard to break.
In india they are linux based.
And well.
At 05:19 a.m. 4/08/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Trouble,
>Well, what I meant to say is that I am confused as to wwhy people 
>continue to buy Microsoft products. Yeah, I know full well in the mid 
>90's up until the last few years there wasn't much of a choice. However, 
>that has changed now, but most people are not willing to switch even 
>though they know Microsoft's stuff is not very stable, and takes various 
>service packs and updates before it really becomes reliable.
>I guess it really comes down to the common psychilogical problem we all 
>have is we hate change. We hate to learn something new, and you can't 
>teach an old dog new tricks kind of thing going on. We are creatures of 
>habit, and it takes something really major to change those hhabits.
>
>Trouble wrote:
>> For a while the people had no choice in Microsoft products at least 
>> in ops, because they had contracts with all major manufacturers to be 
>> the op of PC's sold in stores and by dealers.
>> Now we do have some what of a choice.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Chopper Challenge installation problems

2008-08-03 Thread Damien Sadler
Hi,
Chopper Challenge is still currently corrupt. I'm still waiting on one of my 
team to send me the full and undamaged setup file.
Regards,
Damien




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> Hi Nicol,
> You can get the game from
> http://www.x-sight-interactive.net
>
>
> nicol wrote:
>> Where can I get this game and is it free?
>
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Re: [Audyssey] old game companies we have not heard much about

2008-08-03 Thread Damien Sadler
Hi Thomas,
That's interesting because my current laptop, which was originally going to 
have Vista on it, is only a 1.8ghz Celeron processor.
Regards,
Damien




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> Hi Aaron,
> I don't think there is going to be any major performence changes in
> Windows 7. The thing is in my own personal experience with Windows Vista
> if you want it to run smoothly you need no less than a 3 GHZ processor
> and 1 GB of ram. If you want it to run better get a faster processor and
> double the ram to 2 GB. Vista and Windows 7 were never designed to run
> on 1 GHZ and 2 GHZ systems, and for whatever the reason Microsoft
> falsified and under stated Vista's system requirements to in sure sales
> with people running older XP systems. What few people are realising is
> instead of smaller faster, etc Vista and Windows 7 are larger, more
> graphical, and need far more system resources than XP because they need
> all that for the 3D desktop, 3D animated icons, and the other crap they
> added to the os. There really isn't a good way to improve system
> performence unless MS decides to yank out all the new 3D graphics
> technology, gadgets, etc that comes with Vista.
>
>
> Valiant8086 wrote:
>> Hi.
>> Do they intend, as far as you've heard, to work on resource 
>> intensiveness?
>> The primary reason i'm running xp still, other than the audio 
>> limitations,
>> is I find vista slow. Jaws isn't as responsive there. I can't arrow 
>> quickly
>> around because when I hit the top or bottom edge of my screen it then 
>> takes
>> a while to scroll the entire screen and let me read the next line, 
>> slowing
>> me down rediculously. Everyone claims vista is one blazing fast OS, how
>> wrong they are. I've tried it on three different laptops and they've all
>> done the same thing. One has a 1.8ghz core2duo, the next had a 1.81ghz
>> turion64x2, and this one here has a core2duo 1.66ghz. this one is much
>> better than the other two because I suppose vista business has a lower
>> footprint and runs fewer processes. No media center to take care of and
>> what? I don't know, i'm really disapointed though, you'd think ms'd be
>> trying to really make it go fast, smaller, faster, easier. Oh, and do you
>> know it takes me more steps to connect to the internet on vista? I need 
>> less
>> steps in xp. Start menu, network connections, hit enter on wireless 
>> network
>> connection, ok a little more than two but the option to do these things 
>> is
>> berried unvariably deeper in vista than it is in xp. It's not more user
>> friendly for me, except for the windows update feature which rocks. And,
>> every time I want to connect to my school's dual t1 on vista I have to
>> repair my local area network connection for some reason.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Chopper Challenge installation problems

2008-08-03 Thread louis
If I saved it, I'd send it. Sorry, it's partially my fault it isn't to you 
sooner. HTH.

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> Hi,
> Chopper Challenge is still currently corrupt. I'm still waiting on one of 
> my
> team to send me the full and undamaged setup file.
> Regards,
> Damien
>
>
>
>
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> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:45 PM
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>
>
>> Hi Nicol,
>> You can get the game from
>> http://www.x-sight-interactive.net
>>
>>
>> nicol wrote:
>>> Where can I get this game and is it free?
>>
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