Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi Hayden, When it comes to the Jaws scripting language it helps to have a basic understanding of the Windows Win32 API which those scripts are based on. If you don't hunder stand things like hindow handles etc then you need to study the Win32 API or pay for one of the Freedom Scientific scripting classes where this stuff is explained in more detail. Fortunately, for me I already had C++ incolledge and had read my fair share of books on the Win32 API long before I started working with Jaws scripting so there was absolutely no confusion for me. So what you found to be a nightmare was prety easy for me. This is where having some skill in a language like C++ is very handy bcause pretty much everything leads back to it sooner or later. Just depends on how advanced you want to get with your programming project. On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 19:38 -0600, Hayden Presley wrote: > Hi, > Ah zcode...great format for IF Games. Comparing your others... Personally, I > fine VB6 (not that surprising) to te the easiest. You can do plenty with it, > though it is nainly a starting point. As for C ++...I don't have that much > experience with it, other than that it is quite different from Visual Basic > is. As for JAWS Scripting...unless Freedom Scientific have rewritten what > they call "the bssics of scripting" that is a nightmare to understand. I had > no understanding whatsoever as to what constants/variables/window handles > were used for. (This might have to do with the fact I had never looked at a > Computer programming manual before that beiseds Inform, itself not to good > an example of programming unless you have an engine already built, the JAWS > scripting was still difficult to understand. > Best Regards, > Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi Milos,
Well, like so many things in life what is considered to be easy is
completely a personal opinion.So before we can really have a reasonable
discussion which language is the easiest we have to take in account what
you would consider easy.Still I don't know what you personally would
find easy I'll have to use my personal judgment here.
Personally, in all my years of programming the easiest language for me
to learn was C# .Net, called C-Sharp, because it has a C-style syntax
without all of the complexity of C++. However, since C# .Net wasn't one
of the options you have given me I'll try and compare the languages you
did request information on.
First, we have Python. As you pointed outyou didn't really understand
the language so perhaps it is not a language you would personally
consider easy.As for me I find the language easy enough to learn, but
what I find confusing is keeping track of the formatting and spacing to
define blocks of code. The formatting is a completely visual aid, and
therefore it is more difficult to keep track of the code when using a
screen reader. Other languages such as C++ and Java use braces to define
blocks of code which I personally find more logical and easier to keep
track of. So on account of the specific formatting and lack of syntax
makes Python not as easy as it could be.
As far as C++ goes it is the most difficult language on your list.The
basic functions, headers, and syntax are easy enough to learn, but C++
also puts a lot of the responcibility of doing all the advanced
low-level programming yourself.This is what trips up new programmers
because they simply aren't equipped to manage his/her system resources
on their own. For example,if you were to use system pointers in your C++
application to handle something like game sounds you have to remember to
manually delete those pointersand release the system memory back to
the free stack before loading new sounds or exiting the program. Failior
to do so could result in some major memory leaks in your application.
Unfortunately,asigning memory and cleanning up after you are done with
it is something many new programmers fail to do correctly and do poorly.
So C++ is largely considered an advanced programmer's language because
of the skill and experience required to truly master the language.
Ultimately I believe the easiest language on your list to learn is
Visual Basic. It was my first programming language, the one my college
taught first, and it is safe to say programmers generally find it to be
a good starter language in terms of ease of use. The one thing that
makes the basic type languages good choices for early programming
training is the fact they tend to usewords to define blocks of code
rather than relying on special formatting as Python does or relying on
braces and brackets as C-style languages do. Plus basic languages like
Visual Basic don't get into really advanced programming such as managing
resources and memory which is both a advnatage and disadvantage
depending on your outlook. So if you are talking where to start in terms
of ease to learn I'd say try VB .net.
Before I close I think it might be helpful to show you an example ofsome
different programming languages to give you a better idea of what I am
talking about above. I'll use a very simple program like Hello World as
my example.
// Hello World C++
#include
int main ()
{
std::cout << "Helo world!" << std::endl;
return 0;
}
' Hello World VB .Net
Module Hello
Sub Main ()
System.Console.WriteLine (0, "Hello world!")
End Sub
End Module
As you can see the VB .Net version of the typical Hello World program is
far simplar than it'sC++ counter part. As programs get bigger and more
complex the ease of use factor of VB .Net over C++ will only become
more so. The .Net Framework certainly simplifies many aspects of day to
day programming simply because all of the low-level stuff you have to do
in C++ is incorperated directly into the .Net Framework ready to pick up
and use right away.For example, in my VB .Net sample I called the
WriteLine() function. WriteLine() is actually a .Net wrapper function
for the cout function used in the C++ code above. In larger more
complex applications such as games this really pays off.
One example that comes to mind is using the Microsoft XAudio2 library
forgames. If you use the C++ library you pretty much have to design a
custom sound manager from scratch to load wav files and get their
attributes. Microsoft has sample code showing you how to do this, but
never-the-less it is quite a lot to ask from a totally new programmer.
If you use the C# .Net or VB .Net language with the SlimDX API for
DirectX you don't have to worry bout all that low-level stuff.You simply
make a link to the SlimDX library, include the XAudio2 namespace, and
start programing since all the really low-level stuff is already taken
care of for you. All you need to do is call the proper load functions
and initialization fu
Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi Milos,
Well, like so many things in life what is considered to be easy is
completely a personal opinion.So before we can really have a reasonable
discussion which language is the easiest we have to take in account what
you would consider easy.Still I don't know what you personally would
find easy I'll have to use my personal judgment here.
Personally, in all my years of programming the easiest language for me
to learn was C# .Net, called C-Sharp, because it has a C-style syntax
without all of the complexity of C++. However, since C# .Net wasn't one
of the options you have given me I'll try and compare the languages you
did request information on.
First, we have Python. As you pointed outyou didn't really understand
the language so perhaps it is not a language you would personally
consider easy.As for me I find the language easy enough to learn, but
what I find confusing is keeping track of the formatting and spacing to
define blocks of code. The formatting is a completely visual aid, and
therefore it is more difficult to keep track of the code when using a
screen reader. Other languages such as C++ and Java use braces to define
blocks of code which I personally find more logical and easier to keep
track of. So on account of the specific formatting and lack of syntax
makes Python not as easy as it could be.
As far as C++ goes it is the most difficult language on your list.The
basic functions, headers, and syntax are easy enough to learn, but C++
also puts a lot of the responcibility of doing all the advanced
low-level programming yourself.This is what trips up new programmers
because they simply aren't equipped to manage his/her system resources
on their own. For example,if you were to use system pointers in your C++
application to handle something like game sounds you have to remember to
manually delete those pointersand release the system memory back to
the free stack before loading new sounds or exiting the program. Failior
to do so could result in some major memory leaks in your application.
Unfortunately,asigning memory and cleanning up after you are done with
it is something many new programmers fail to do correctly and do poorly.
So C++ is largely considered an advanced programmer's language because
of the skill and experience required to truly master the language.
Ultimately I believe the easiest language on your list to learn is
Visual Basic. It was my first programming language, the one my college
taught first, and it is safe to say programmers generally find it to be
a good starter language in terms of ease of use. The one thing that
makes the basic type languages good choices for early programming
training is the fact they tend to usewords to define blocks of code
rather than relying on special formatting as Python does or relying on
braces and brackets as C-style languages do. Plus basic languages like
Visual Basic don't get into really advanced programming such as managing
resources and memory which is both a advnatage and disadvantage
depending on your outlook. So if you are talking where to start in terms
of ease to learn I'd say try VB .net.
Before I close I think it might be helpful to show you an example ofsome
different programming languages to give you a better idea of what I am
talking about above. I'll use a very simple program like Hello World as
my example.
// Hello World C++
#include
int main ()
{
std::cout << "Helo world!" << std::endl;
return 0;
}
' Hello World VB .Net
Module Hello
Sub Main ()
System.Console.WriteLine (0, "Hello world!")
End Sub
End Module
As you can see the VB .Net version of the typical Hello World program is
far simplar than it'sC++ counter part. As programs get bigger and more
complex the ease of use factor of VB .Net over C++ will only become
more so. The .Net Framework certainly simplifies many aspects of day to
day programming simply because all of the low-level stuff you have to do
in C++ is incorperated directly into the .Net Framework ready to pick up
and use right away.For example, in my VB .Net sample I called the
WriteLine() function. WriteLine() is actually a .Net wrapper function
for the cout function used in the C++ code above. In larger more
complex applications such as games this really pays off.
One example that comes to mind is using the Microsoft XAudio2 library
forgames. If you use the C++ library you pretty much have to design a
custom sound manager from scratch to load wav files and get their
attributes. Microsoft has sample code showing you how to do this, but
never-the-less it is quite a lot to ask from a totally new programmer.
If you use the C# .Net or VB .Net language with the SlimDX API for
DirectX you don't have to worry bout all that low-level stuff.You simply
make a link to the SlimDX library, include the XAudio2 namespace, and
start programing since all the really low-level stuff is already taken
care of for you. All you need to do is call the proper load functions
and initialization fu
Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi, Ah zcode...great format for IF Games. Comparing your others... Personally, I fine VB6 (not that surprising) to te the easiest. You can do plenty with it, though it is nainly a starting point. As for C ++...I don't have that much experience with it, other than that it is quite different from Visual Basic is. As for JAWS Scripting...unless Freedom Scientific have rewritten what they call "the bssics of scripting" that is a nightmare to understand. I had no understanding whatsoever as to what constants/variables/window handles were used for. (This might have to do with the fact I had never looked at a Computer programming manual before that beiseds Inform, itself not to good an example of programming unless you have an engine already built, the JAWS scripting was still difficult to understand. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Milos Przic Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:02 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison Hello all, As I am still newbie in programming, I would like to ask those of you who know, to compare the languages that I will mension here. The only thing I want to compare is how easy the language is to learn and why. For now I can program in the inform 7, and have learned jaws scripting. I tried python but I canceled studying because I didn't understand a single thing. So let's compare the inform 7, python, jaws scripting, vb 6, and c++ from the aspect of how easy they are to be understood. This question may seam stupid to experts, but still I would like the opinions on this. Best regards! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4831 (20100203) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] monopoly issue
i am joing a game that's private but then i type in the password and i'm in the game on my friend's pc still says that she can't play a game with herself. but i'm in the game just online and she can't hit enter to start it. On Feb 3, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Ryan Smith wrote: > Hi, > Joining a game isn't logging on. By already in a game, do you mean you > are actually playing Monopoly, or are you at the main menu? If you are > already playing a Monopoly game, click the Leave this Game button. > Click Yes when it asks if you want to leave the game. You should now > see a few buttons. Click the button that says Join Game. Then, you > should see several different buttons: > Game Number with people > Click the button with your friend in it. Once you have joined your > friends game, she can press enter. > > If you did all the above, and it still tells your friend she can't > play a game with yourself, you may have joined a different game by > accident. > Thanks. > -Ryan > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: >> well, what if you're already in a game and your friend is and you join in on >> the browser version and your friend hits enter. for some reason. my friend >> got the message saying that she couldn't play the game with herself but i >> was in the game on the online version. >> >> On Feb 2, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Ryan Smith wrote: >> >>> Hi Brandon, >>> That isn't a problem. The server has no idea that you want to play in >>> the same game as your friend. You need to join the game she is in. The >>> reason it tells your friend that, is because there is no one in her >>> game. You should be able to find more about this in the readme files. >>> >>> I really hope you all are enjoying this game. We have over 1000 >>> registered players. If you haven't already, grab your free copy at >>> www.rsgames.co.nr >>> Thanks. >>> -Ryan >>> Head of RS Games >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: earlier i was trying to play monopoly the rs games version with a friend of mine and was on a mac and she was on windows. once i connected, she hit enter and it said she couldn't play a game with herself. is there going to be a fix for this problem? >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] monopoly issue
Hi, Joining a game isn't logging on. By already in a game, do you mean you are actually playing Monopoly, or are you at the main menu? If you are already playing a Monopoly game, click the Leave this Game button. Click Yes when it asks if you want to leave the game. You should now see a few buttons. Click the button that says Join Game. Then, you should see several different buttons: Game Number with people Click the button with your friend in it. Once you have joined your friends game, she can press enter. If you did all the above, and it still tells your friend she can't play a game with yourself, you may have joined a different game by accident. Thanks. -Ryan On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: > well, what if you're already in a game and your friend is and you join in on > the browser version and your friend hits enter. for some reason. my friend > got the message saying that she couldn't play the game with herself but i was > in the game on the online version. > > On Feb 2, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Ryan Smith wrote: > >> Hi Brandon, >> That isn't a problem. The server has no idea that you want to play in >> the same game as your friend. You need to join the game she is in. The >> reason it tells your friend that, is because there is no one in her >> game. You should be able to find more about this in the readme files. >> >> I really hope you all are enjoying this game. We have over 1000 >> registered players. If you haven't already, grab your free copy at >> www.rsgames.co.nr >> Thanks. >> -Ryan >> Head of RS Games >> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: >>> earlier i was trying to play monopoly the rs games version with a friend of >>> mine and was on a mac and she was on windows. once i connected, she hit >>> enter and it said she couldn't play a game with herself. is there going to >>> be a fix for this problem? >>> >>> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] final countdown solo on expert guitarnowonsendspace. rock band 2
Yeah; I wanna get into drums too. I've been playing with GUitar and Bass mostly and sometimes vocals. On Feb 3, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Yohandy wrote: > Thanks! Clement, you're a drummer correct? If so we should definitely get a > different perspective on this. I haven't tried drums much, and I'd really > like to get into it. > - Original Message - From: "clement chou" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:44 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final countdown solo on expert guitarnowonsendspace. > rock band 2 > > >> I like this... and I'l try and explain my own method soon. Just need to find >> the right words for it. But great job on the solo! >> - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:37 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final countdown solo on expert guitar >> nowonsendspace. rock band 2 >> >> >>> Thanks man! before I try explaining, a small correction. this song's in >>> Lego Rock Band, not Rock Band 2. woops. I'm so used to playing rock band 2 >>> I always refer to that game. it is possible to export lrb songs to rb2, and >>> there are quite a number of good songs in lrb disc, so you guys should buy >>> it regardless if you own a console and are into music based games. Now as >>> for the way I learn songs: First thing I do is if what I'm trying to learn >>> is difficult to hear on a particular instrument, I turn down the background >>> sounds, music etc as much as possible and leave the soundtrack all the way >>> up. so if this solo sounded louder to you than the official song, this is >>> why. Apart from this, I think it all comes down to figuring out the timing, >>> memorizing how your part is supposed to sound, and then going on practice >>> mode and play the song section by section at 50% speed. there's also some >>> common sense involved. in all rock band games I've played, the charting for >>> notes and chords doesn't change randomly, unless of course the song has >>> around 50 chords lol. if you played a green note for the first section of a >>> song, and another section has you play that same note, then usually you'll >>> play the same green note. so in the case of the final countdown, the button >>> patterns for the various groups of triplet notes is always the same, unless >>> some notes change or are added/removed. if you're playing on expert, you >>> pretty much play every note as the musician intended the song to be played >>> on a real instrument. for lower difficulties things slow down a bit. medium >>> is more like playing half notes for example. I'd also be interested in the >>> methods other people use. we could all definitely learn something new from >>> each other! >>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Chesworth" >>> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:37 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final countdown solo on expert guitar now >>> onsendspace. rock band 2 >>> >>> Only just had a chance to check this out, nice work man! Yup, I'd be up for learning it if you'd be up for posting the rest of the tutorial. I'd also be interested to know more about your process for figuring parts like this out, should think we all have differing methods. Cheers Scott On 1/30/10, Yohandy wrote: > This is part of my final countdown 100% notes hit tutorial on rock band 2. > the section where I try explaining which colors to press didn't come out > all > that great and sounded rather confusing, so I'm considering re-recording > it. > however since this could take a while I'm sending this file first so you > guys can listen to the solo, and consider whether or not you wish to learn > it or are interested in how it's played before I waste a bunch of time > working on the re-recording of the tutorial. Also please note the fact I'm > not able to use line-in on this laptop for now and I'm using the built-in > mic, so take that into consideration. if you guys like what you hear and > don't mind the quality I'll be glad to re-record it. Here's the file. >http://www.sendspace.com/file/po5aru > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make chan
[Audyssey] IRC address for core exiles?
Hi, What's the address of the ce chat I can't seem to find it. More to the point I'm not even sure how you do it. Dark anybody? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Don't know too many of the others, but the origin of the name of basic was
something along the lines of:
Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code
honestly it was the closest to a programming language that had real english
terms in it's syntax, but on the other hand that was based on things like
QBasic a long time ago - over 20 years ago.
It just meant it was partly, and sort of designed to be a starting point in
terms of learning to program, but, yes, VB.Net is a bit different, but
suppose it still does things like For..Next, instead of for () { }, like C#
for example.
Stay well
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
- Original Message -
From: "Milos Przic"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:01 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hello all,
As I am still newbie in programming, I would like to ask those of you
who know, to compare the languages that I will mension here. The only
thing I want to compare is how easy the language is to learn and why. For
now I can program in the inform 7, and have learned jaws scripting. I
tried python but I canceled studying because I didn't understand a single
thing. So let's compare the inform 7, python, jaws scripting, vb 6, and
c++ from the aspect of how easy they are to be understood.
This question may seam stupid to experts, but still I would like the
opinions on this.
Best regards!
Milos Przic
msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com
skype: Milosh-hs
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[Audyssey] Sryth-in sirtsh for my double
Hi All, I have some questions. 1. Where in the kingdom can i find my double? 2. Where shall i look for the thing witch can help me in come to the belwurd carsel? Sorry my spelling - my keyboard is quite crappy at this moment. Thanks for any info. All the best! Jimmy. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hello all, As I am still newbie in programming, I would like to ask those of you who know, to compare the languages that I will mension here. The only thing I want to compare is how easy the language is to learn and why. For now I can program in the inform 7, and have learned jaws scripting. I tried python but I canceled studying because I didn't understand a single thing. So let's compare the inform 7, python, jaws scripting, vb 6, and c++ from the aspect of how easy they are to be understood. This question may seam stupid to experts, but still I would like the opinions on this. Best regards! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4831 (20100203) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] final countdown solo on expert guitarnowonsendspace.rock band 2
Yeah, I'm a drumer, but I play everything else as well. :D Although in reality, I'm a guitar player and singer, nothing else. - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 6:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final countdown solo on expert guitarnowonsendspace.rock band 2 Thanks! Clement, you're a drummer correct? If so we should definitely get a different perspective on this. I haven't tried drums much, and I'd really like to get into it. - Original Message - From: "clement chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final countdown solo on expert guitarnowonsendspace. rock band 2 I like this... and I'l try and explain my own method soon. Just need to find the right words for it. But great job on the solo! - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final countdown solo on expert guitar nowonsendspace. rock band 2 Thanks man! before I try explaining, a small correction. this song's in Lego Rock Band, not Rock Band 2. woops. I'm so used to playing rock band 2 I always refer to that game. it is possible to export lrb songs to rb2, and there are quite a number of good songs in lrb disc, so you guys should buy it regardless if you own a console and are into music based games. Now as for the way I learn songs: First thing I do is if what I'm trying to learn is difficult to hear on a particular instrument, I turn down the background sounds, music etc as much as possible and leave the soundtrack all the way up. so if this solo sounded louder to you than the official song, this is why. Apart from this, I think it all comes down to figuring out the timing, memorizing how your part is supposed to sound, and then going on practice mode and play the song section by section at 50% speed. there's also some common sense involved. in all rock band games I've played, the charting for notes and chords doesn't change randomly, unless of course the song has around 50 chords lol. if you played a green note for the first section of a song, and another section has you play that same note, then usually you'll play the same green note. so in the case of the final countdown, the button patterns for the various groups of triplet notes is always the same, unless some notes change or are added/removed. if you're playing on expert, you pretty much play every note as the musician intended the song to be played on a real instrument. for lower difficulties things slow down a bit. medium is more like playing half notes for example. I'd also be interested in the methods other people use. we could all definitely learn something new from each other! - Original Message - From: "Scott Chesworth" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final countdown solo on expert guitar now onsendspace. rock band 2 Only just had a chance to check this out, nice work man! Yup, I'd be up for learning it if you'd be up for posting the rest of the tutorial. I'd also be interested to know more about your process for figuring parts like this out, should think we all have differing methods. Cheers Scott On 1/30/10, Yohandy wrote: This is part of my final countdown 100% notes hit tutorial on rock band 2. the section where I try explaining which colors to press didn't come out all that great and sounded rather confusing, so I'm considering re-recording it. however since this could take a while I'm sending this file first so you guys can listen to the solo, and consider whether or not you wish to learn it or are interested in how it's played before I waste a bunch of time working on the re-recording of the tutorial. Also please note the fact I'm not able to use line-in on this laptop for now and I'm using the built-in mic, so take that into consideration. if you guys like what you hear and don't mind the quality I'll be glad to re-record it. Here's the file. http://www.sendspace.com/file/po5aru --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audys
Re: [Audyssey] I r c
Your problem is AVG. Use a real virus scanner and you won't have that problem. mIRC is perfectly fine. It'd better be, for how many people use the thing. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren Harris Sent: February 3, 2010 10:35 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I r c Hi. I downloaded mirc from http://www.mirc.com/get.html and my AVG picked it up as a form of malwear. I clicked remove and it removed it completely. Is this programme dangerous to install at all? I scanned it and AVG didn't pick anything up from it at all. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: 02 February 2010 16:36 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I r c mIRC (http://www.mirc.com), plus any number of standalone speech programs to eliminate having to keep your hand glooed to the keyboard... Exact program and version will depend on your screenreader. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: February 1, 2010 8:21 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I r c I'd like to know I know there is miranda but I want a standalone client myself. At 06:55 a.m. 2/02/2010, you wrote: >Hi, > >Does anybody know of a good irc client that I could use? I want to use >the chat on core exiles but the internet explorer way has sort of >become unusable now. If anybody could help then that would be great. > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the >list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] I r c
Hi. I downloaded mirc from http://www.mirc.com/get.html and my AVG picked it up as a form of malwear. I clicked remove and it removed it completely. Is this programme dangerous to install at all? I scanned it and AVG didn't pick anything up from it at all. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: 02 February 2010 16:36 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I r c mIRC (http://www.mirc.com), plus any number of standalone speech programs to eliminate having to keep your hand glooed to the keyboard... Exact program and version will depend on your screenreader. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: February 1, 2010 8:21 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I r c I'd like to know I know there is miranda but I want a standalone client myself. At 06:55 a.m. 2/02/2010, you wrote: >Hi, > >Does anybody know of a good irc client that I could use? I want to use >the chat on core exiles but the internet explorer way has sort of >become unusable now. If anybody could help then that would be great. > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the >list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] final countdown solo on expert guitarnowonsendspace. rock band 2
Thanks! Clement, you're a drummer correct? If so we should definitely get a different perspective on this. I haven't tried drums much, and I'd really like to get into it. - Original Message - From: "clement chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final countdown solo on expert guitarnowonsendspace. rock band 2 I like this... and I'l try and explain my own method soon. Just need to find the right words for it. But great job on the solo! - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final countdown solo on expert guitar nowonsendspace. rock band 2 Thanks man! before I try explaining, a small correction. this song's in Lego Rock Band, not Rock Band 2. woops. I'm so used to playing rock band 2 I always refer to that game. it is possible to export lrb songs to rb2, and there are quite a number of good songs in lrb disc, so you guys should buy it regardless if you own a console and are into music based games. Now as for the way I learn songs: First thing I do is if what I'm trying to learn is difficult to hear on a particular instrument, I turn down the background sounds, music etc as much as possible and leave the soundtrack all the way up. so if this solo sounded louder to you than the official song, this is why. Apart from this, I think it all comes down to figuring out the timing, memorizing how your part is supposed to sound, and then going on practice mode and play the song section by section at 50% speed. there's also some common sense involved. in all rock band games I've played, the charting for notes and chords doesn't change randomly, unless of course the song has around 50 chords lol. if you played a green note for the first section of a song, and another section has you play that same note, then usually you'll play the same green note. so in the case of the final countdown, the button patterns for the various groups of triplet notes is always the same, unless some notes change or are added/removed. if you're playing on expert, you pretty much play every note as the musician intended the song to be played on a real instrument. for lower difficulties things slow down a bit. medium is more like playing half notes for example. I'd also be interested in the methods other people use. we could all definitely learn something new from each other! - Original Message - From: "Scott Chesworth" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final countdown solo on expert guitar now onsendspace. rock band 2 Only just had a chance to check this out, nice work man! Yup, I'd be up for learning it if you'd be up for posting the rest of the tutorial. I'd also be interested to know more about your process for figuring parts like this out, should think we all have differing methods. Cheers Scott On 1/30/10, Yohandy wrote: This is part of my final countdown 100% notes hit tutorial on rock band 2. the section where I try explaining which colors to press didn't come out all that great and sounded rather confusing, so I'm considering re-recording it. however since this could take a while I'm sending this file first so you guys can listen to the solo, and consider whether or not you wish to learn it or are interested in how it's played before I waste a bunch of time working on the re-recording of the tutorial. Also please note the fact I'm not able to use line-in on this laptop for now and I'm using the built-in mic, so take that into consideration. if you guys like what you hear and don't mind the quality I'll be glad to re-record it. Here's the file. http://www.sendspace.com/file/po5aru --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://a
