Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on posts to the list and to Audyssey magazine - Re: Important Notice For All List Members
well I find it easer interestingly enough to do audio rather than writing. At 05:59 AM 3/8/2013, you wrote: Based on the content that Shaun and some others send in the form of posts to the list, I see why they don't submit articles to the magazine. They would probably be just as unreadable. It would take Ron a lot of time and effort to get their attempted message across to readers. There are some posts that I automatically delete without even reading, because I know their lack of understandability. This is a shame, because they might have something of value to contribute, but if it cannot be at least proofread and checked for spelling through the use of a free and easily installed spell checker before it is sent, I don't feel it is worth bothering with. For those who send such messages to the list, if your problem isn't dealt with, or you don't get answers to your questions or concerns, take this into consideration. You will get better results if you can be understood, and it is not hard to do. Unfortunately, if you write as if you were uneducated, people will think of you as such, whether it is true or not. You are, right or not, judged by what you produce. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members Hi Ron, I hear you there. Input garbage output garbage. Input a gem output a gem. As the magazine has always been about submissions it is as good as those submissions. If Shaun and some others feel the Audyssey Magazine has been going down hill in quality then perhaps we need to constructively encourage the community to write better articles. On 3/7/13, Ron Schamerhorn wrote: One can only work with what one gets. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on Auddyssey magazine switching format - Re: Important Notice For All List Members
well it was only a suggestion, having both text and cast would be fine epsecially with blogs and such. At 05:37 AM 3/8/2013, you wrote: While switching to a podcast format sounds like a good idea, what would be the advantages? In the current format, submissions are easily created by anyone. You edit as needed, then publish. Links to sites of interest are included. Articles can be found or skipped as desired very simply. In a podcast, submissions would have to either be created with a sound editing program, which a lot of people either don't have or don't know how to use. Good equipment must be obtained to get decent sound quality. Then you have to edit them anyway, and paste the result into your production. Or, if this isn't how articles get into the mag, someone will have to read submitted articles into a mike. I don't see the advantages of this. I think of this last approach as to either reading braille or listening to a Talking Book, in which case, I would prefer the braille and read it myself. I do not see the advantage of listening to someone read the written text to me if I can read it myself in the form of an Email. Then again, I'm listening to a computer read it to me, anyway, unless a braille display is used, which is not an option for a lot of list subscribers. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Ron Schamerhorn" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members Hi I'll have to agree. Yes I'll admit to dropping the ball on things but like Tom says it's life and computer crashes don't help. and all things being equal whenever did Shaun ever submit something? I had both my primary and external die in about a month of each other. I do want to switch to more of a podcast format as I agree it's time to move. a friend and I are working on it. I plan to stay at the helm it just takes some thinking in an alternative version. Ron On 06-Mar-2013 11:38 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, While I agree that it is a pity that Audyssey hasn't kept up with the quarterly release schedule I also know that life does get in the way. Once I reboot the Audyssey site we can see if we can encourage Ron to step up a magazine release, appoint a new editor or something, but calling it rubbish is a pretty harsh and unfair assessment of the magazine. On 3/6/13, shaun everiss wrote: I aggree kev. however as far as I can remember, articles dropped off so now audiogames.net is where you go and audyssey is crappy rubbish! I am not saying don't take it out the bin and dust it off, but the fact is that there is almost nothing to read in it these days and its so nonregular I don't notice it as much as I used to. I do support the revival, previding the mag can be edited by a few or something at least get a regular schedual as it used to have. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6152 - Release Date: 03/06/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding t
Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members
Hmmm maybe you are right I don't however have time to tweat all day long or facebook all day long. The email format does work fine but maybe a dropbox or something with files who knows, a forum I guess as well as the list. a teamtalk server is also good stock if possible, teamtalk is free. twitter, well I'd have to think about it I do review tweats every morning but I don't usually reply to any. I still find email the easiest to reply to. Some sort of voice messenging thing maybe with speaker box or simular but I am not sure about free online voice messenging that would be the way to go maybe. At 01:51 AM 3/8/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, HmmmNot sure about the app bit, but a blog we definitely could do. Wordpress is simple to setup and manage since it is coded in php. However, before I say yes or no on features like that I'll wait until the new website is up and running before running a poll to see what the majority of list members want or don't want. For example, one thing I have thought about is some sort of social media component such as a Twitter feed that would allow Audyssey members to chat or discuss games via an existing social networking service they are already on. As has been said technology is changing and perhaps we need to roll with the change and update too. On 3/7/13, shaun everiss wrote: > I wander if there would be any use that as well as having audyssey in > all the formats its in including podcast which would be good I'd like > it in a more modern blog form or at least parts of it. > This is probably further down the road, but an idea would be to have > an apple/android and win8 app. > really not sure what those would do though. > I read a lot of magazines and other publications have contests and > competitions and to modernise we should start including a heck more of > those. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members
No I havn't forgot, this is over all, nothing much since shades of doom has got me interested or is it the fact I have got so used to stuff in general that I don't notice. maybe its a bit of both. I don't have the time I used to to actually take as much notice as I usually did in the past and don't get the same excitement I used to get so maybe its just me. At 01:36 AM 3/8/2013, you wrote: Hi Jim, Yeah, really. Not only that Shaun seems to have forgotten about all the updates and releases for Swamp, Road to Rage, BK2, and so forth. Not to mention there was a slue of accessible games released for iOS. So 2012 was actually a pretty productive year all things considered. On 3/7/13, Jim Kitchen wrote: > Hi Shaun, > > I do not know of another game out there like my Dungeon Master game that I > put out last year. Same with my strip war game that I put out last year. > And even though it is a simple little game, I did release my Press Your Luck > game this year. > > BFN > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members
true tom ofcause with everything thats out there there is really no need to write something for the mag as it is. I think I may be one of the last that uses text and a keyboard as it was meant to be used. I hang on to the old ways. But most others yunger generations in general don't, text is crap. its sound and graphics, huge bangs and such. I am not saying blow the budjet but we need to attract people to do something. It doesn't have to be really clear just not to noisy, etc not all gamers will have really good gear. I have standard gear, well for the home user. At 01:31 AM 3/8/2013, you wrote: Hi Ron, I hear you there. Input garbage output garbage. Input a gem output a gem. As the magazine has always been about submissions it is as good as those submissions. If Shaun and some others feel the Audyssey Magazine has been going down hill in quality then perhaps we need to constructively encourage the community to write better articles. On 3/7/13, Ron Schamerhorn wrote: > One can only work with what one gets. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members
that sounds good. has anyone thought of making the adam the imortal gamer and game rescue unit into actual games maybe 3d games? An idea I had was sort of like the mirror universe, adam is the same his computer however gets a virus and becomes evil,. On that note I'd really like some of the if games the older ones and some of the newer ones become audioised somehow. cosmoserve was a good game in its day. it still is but agt is not made anymore and it was designed for old pcs its good but its really crap now, it was meant to run on dos not windows and with 64 bit windows all the agt stuff won't ru n anyway. I know you have agility but it still doesn't go the same as it used to. The other thing that I have been thinking of is cross cosmoserve with the bastard operater from hell. the main char is the bofh and as expected he will play the game he would do things the bofh would do. I am not sure how it would go but. At 01:27 AM 3/8/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Well, as Ron is the editor of the magazine he is ultimately the person for changes in the magazine itself. However, I think this is where the website can help. I can maintain a news page where news of new audio games, news letters from developers, etc can be instantly posted instead of having to wait until the next magazine release weather it be three months, six months, or a year. I expect the launch of the new Audyssey site will give us more up to date information in the world of accessible games which is something we didn't have before. As far as that goes we can create a section for Adam the Immortal Gamer and all the rest of it which would make everything more online and more available to the public sooner. On 3/7/13, shaun everiss wrote: > I don't know tom it was unfair to the mag in its origiona format and > I wouldn't dis it. > however I feel that over the last few issues as stuff has shifted > that it has degraded over the years. > most of the news and letters I have gotten weeks in advance. > Most have the net well most of the western section of the world has > it any maybe others my point is, in the old days audyssey was a mail > magazine then a magazine that was round on the net. > Its primary purpose was for the interactive fiction and other dos games. > along comes the net and its job is prity much done as it is. > A revision of the magazine needs to be urgently performed. > Its funny, I used to read the mag and waste a good hour on it. > over the last few years its been this small pile of crap, not that > its crap but most of it I have seen before, vary little articles, and > audiogames.net had a lot more info. > Though every time I read it I remembered the older issues. > Every time I thought, hmmm this mag really needs something done its > total crap, I'll do something about it. > Then I'd promptly forget. > I had loads of ideas for the mag then I'dconvieniently forget those. > The down hill of the trend of the mag has been on my mind ever since > issue 31 onwards. > If audyssey.org will be articles and stuff thats fine but bar the > news from the devs that did not make to email well all the > news maybe the dnd articles and the adventure article gru and > imortal gamer and other columns well if these are shifted thats the > end of the mag. > though I can't wait for a revision. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Getting swamp to work with windows 7
Hi, I think you really should use the command prompt. It can be found By going to the start menu, all programs, accessories, Command prompt. You will need to right click the command prompt, and select run as administrator. Regards: Dallas On 07/03/2013, at 6:20, David wrote: > Hi > I am trying to get swamp to work with my computer running a 32 bit version of > windows 7. When I attempted to run the game it gave me that error message > saying that one of mswinscks dependencies were mssing and stuff. So, I > copied that file to the c\windows\system32 folder.Now, I don't know if this > is correct, but I hit the windows key with r and typed in cmd. The read me > file said to run it as an administrator but I didn't know how because I > didn't know where the command prompt icon was. Anyway I typed in the 5 > commands that were in the read me file and it gave me an error saying that > the module was loaded but there was something about it failing to bring up a > dll call server or something. Then I thought maybe I should try msinet just > to see what would happen and low and behold it succceeded. Then I tried > mswinsck again and it failed again. Also, I think I have direct x 8. Is > that compatible with swamp or do I have to specifically have direct x 7 > Thanks for all your help > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on posts to the list and to Audysseymagazine - Re: Important Notice For All List Members
It is, or should be, the author's responsibility to make things understandable, not the reader's. Using your logic, book and newspaper editors would be unemployed because there would be no, or at least very little, need for them. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on posts to the list and to Audysseymagazine - Re: Important Notice For All List Members I think both sides are at fault here. It would be nice if spelling and grammar were taking more under consideration, but I don't understand the complaints about messages being hard to read and understand. I have no problem at all understanding even the most horribly typed messages, I even use translation services to do some things that make some messages on here look like professional grade documents. It seems to me that if you can't understand something even if it's badly written, you have no right to complain because it isn't like it takes any extra skill or adjustment to figure things out. If anything I just find it arrogant. Not everything will ever be perfectly clear and easy to read, but complaining about not being able to understand it, in my opinion, makes people look just as bad. -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:59 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on posts to the list and to Audyssey magazine - Re: Important Notice For All List Members Hi Charles, I am in full agreement with you on this point. I understand in cases where English isn't a person's native language where they make grammatical and spelling errors in their posts. However, the irony is that I know of many people on this list and several other lists that are not native English speakers and there spelling and grammar are almost textbook perfect where native English speakers who should certainly know better have the most spelling and grammar errors of all. I don't know if it is the fault of the education system, weather or not the people in question don't care, or there is some type of mental disability involved but I can't help but notice the fact I often delete a lot of posts simply because little to know attempt was made at clarity. If some people have difficulty making there day to day posts clear it is doubtful they will be able to construct an article or review of a better quality unless they seriously proofread and spell check their work Its not like I expect the post to be textbook perfect, but I do expect a reasonable attempt at spelling and proper punctuation if nothing else.. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] close topic was RE: thoughts on posts to the list and to Audysseymagazine - Re: Important Notice For All List Members
ok guys, this subject comes up again and again, and always ends up the same way. so let's close this one before it has a chance to escalate! let's get back to the subject of the list shall we? :) kevin twitter: @lordl1974 on skype: lordl1974 -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shadow Dragon Sent: 07 March 2013 19:04 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on posts to the list and to Audysseymagazine - Re: Important Notice For All List Members I think both sides are at fault here. It would be nice if spelling and grammar were taking more under consideration, but I don't understand the complaints about messages being hard to read and understand. I have no problem at all understanding even the most horribly typed messages, I even use translation services to do some things that make some messages on here look like professional grade documents. It seems to me that if you can't understand something even if it's badly written, you have no right to complain because it isn't like it takes any extra skill or adjustment to figure things out. If anything I just find it arrogant. Not everything will ever be perfectly clear and easy to read, but complaining about not being able to understand it, in my opinion, makes people look just as bad. -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:59 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on posts to the list and to Audyssey magazine - Re: Important Notice For All List Members > Hi Charles, > > I am in full agreement with you on this point. I understand in cases > where English isn't a person's native language where they make > grammatical and spelling errors in their posts. However, the irony is > that I know of many people on this list and several other lists that > are not native English speakers and there spelling and grammar are > almost textbook perfect where native English speakers who should > certainly know better have the most spelling and grammar errors of > all. I don't know if it is the fault of the education system, weather > or not the people in question don't care, or there is some type of > mental disability involved but I can't help but notice the fact I > often delete a lot of posts simply because little to know attempt was > made at clarity. If some people have difficulty making there day to > day posts clear it is doubtful they will be able to construct an > article or review of a better quality unless they seriously proofread > and spell check their work Its not like I expect the post to be > textbook perfect, but I do expect a reasonable attempt at spelling and > proper punctuation if nothing else.. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on posts to the list and to Audyssey magazine - Re: Important Notice For All List Members
I think both sides are at fault here. It would be nice if spelling and grammar were taking more under consideration, but I don't understand the complaints about messages being hard to read and understand. I have no problem at all understanding even the most horribly typed messages, I even use translation services to do some things that make some messages on here look like professional grade documents. It seems to me that if you can't understand something even if it's badly written, you have no right to complain because it isn't like it takes any extra skill or adjustment to figure things out. If anything I just find it arrogant. Not everything will ever be perfectly clear and easy to read, but complaining about not being able to understand it, in my opinion, makes people look just as bad. -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:59 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on posts to the list and to Audyssey magazine - Re: Important Notice For All List Members Hi Charles, I am in full agreement with you on this point. I understand in cases where English isn't a person's native language where they make grammatical and spelling errors in their posts. However, the irony is that I know of many people on this list and several other lists that are not native English speakers and there spelling and grammar are almost textbook perfect where native English speakers who should certainly know better have the most spelling and grammar errors of all. I don't know if it is the fault of the education system, weather or not the people in question don't care, or there is some type of mental disability involved but I can't help but notice the fact I often delete a lot of posts simply because little to know attempt was made at clarity. If some people have difficulty making there day to day posts clear it is doubtful they will be able to construct an article or review of a better quality unless they seriously proofread and spell check their work Its not like I expect the post to be textbook perfect, but I do expect a reasonable attempt at spelling and proper punctuation if nothing else.. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] making sound packs for alter aeon for mush client
Basically, you create a trigger for each line you want to have a sound play for. Then, use the sound browse option to find an audio file to link to that line. If you're not trying anything really hard, the controls are rather simple. If you need specific info feel free to email me off-list and I'll guide you through the steps. - Original Message - From: "Keith" Subject: [Audyssey] making sound packs for alter aeon for mush client Hi, I am a novice mudder who is looking to make a sound pack for use with the mush z client. Anyone know of any "direction" sites or articles on how I can do this? Thanks Keith --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on Auddyssey magazine switching format - Re: Important Notice For All List Members
Hi Charles, Not only that we need to take into account other disabilities besides blindness here. I, for example, have difficulty speaking. I have a medical condition that attacks the muscles in my body, in particular the face, that makes it difficult for me to talk clearly. While it has no effect on me writing up a one or two page article I would find it difficult to record a verbal podcast where I could speak clearly enough to make it worth everyone's time. I also know of a number of people who are deaf-blind who play text adventures and such. Obviously downloading a text based copy of Audyssey and reading it using a braille display or sending it to a braille printer is no big deal. However, if someone is deaf-blind there is no way they could listen to an audio podcast so while it may be convenient for some it would be absolutely inaccessible to others. So as far as I am concerned a podcast,if we ever have one, would be more for game reviews, walkthroughs, and would be in addition to the magazine rather than a replacement for it. Cheers! On 3/7/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > While switching to a podcast format sounds like a good idea, what would be > the advantages? In the current format, submissions are easily created by > anyone. You edit as needed, then publish. Links to sites of interest are > included. Articles can be found or skipped as desired very simply. > > In a podcast, submissions would have to either be created with a sound > editing program, which a lot of people either don't have or don't know how > to use. Good equipment must be obtained to get decent sound quality. Then > > you have to edit them anyway, and paste the result into your production. > Or, if this isn't how articles get into the mag, someone will have to read > submitted articles into a mike. I don't see the advantages of this. I > think of this last approach as to either reading braille or listening to a > Talking Book, in which case, I would prefer the braille and read it myself. > > I do not see the advantage of listening to someone read the written text to > > me if I can read it myself in the form of an Email. Then again, I'm > listening to a computer read it to me, anyway, unless a braille display is > used, which is not an option for a lot of list subscribers. > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possibly off-topic: Derivation of Audyssey
That was the reason it is spelled that way. You are right. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Alfredo's Desktop computer" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Possibly off-topic: Derivation of Audyssey Hi, I happened to read the notice and this just seemed to pop in my head. Where the word Audyssey come from? Does it combine certain parts of audio and odyssey in one word? Many thanks, cannot wait to try out the new website. Will it be audyssey.org? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Possibly off-topic: Derivation of Audyssey
Hi, I happened to read the notice and this just seemed to pop in my head. Where the word Audyssey come from? Does it combine certain parts of audio and odyssey in one word? Many thanks, cannot wait to try out the new website. Will it be audyssey.org? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] audio game review query
hello does anyone have an audio review of super football, lords of the galaxy, or galaxy ranger? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] thoughts on posts to the list and to Audyssey magazine - Re: Important Notice For All List Members
Based on the content that Shaun and some others send in the form of posts to the list, I see why they don't submit articles to the magazine. They would probably be just as unreadable. It would take Ron a lot of time and effort to get their attempted message across to readers. There are some posts that I automatically delete without even reading, because I know their lack of understandability. This is a shame, because they might have something of value to contribute, but if it cannot be at least proofread and checked for spelling through the use of a free and easily installed spell checker before it is sent, I don't feel it is worth bothering with. For those who send such messages to the list, if your problem isn't dealt with, or you don't get answers to your questions or concerns, take this into consideration. You will get better results if you can be understood, and it is not hard to do. Unfortunately, if you write as if you were uneducated, people will think of you as such, whether it is true or not. You are, right or not, judged by what you produce. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members Hi Ron, I hear you there. Input garbage output garbage. Input a gem output a gem. As the magazine has always been about submissions it is as good as those submissions. If Shaun and some others feel the Audyssey Magazine has been going down hill in quality then perhaps we need to constructively encourage the community to write better articles. On 3/7/13, Ron Schamerhorn wrote: One can only work with what one gets. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] thoughts on Auddyssey magazine switching format - Re: Important Notice For All List Members
While switching to a podcast format sounds like a good idea, what would be the advantages? In the current format, submissions are easily created by anyone. You edit as needed, then publish. Links to sites of interest are included. Articles can be found or skipped as desired very simply. In a podcast, submissions would have to either be created with a sound editing program, which a lot of people either don't have or don't know how to use. Good equipment must be obtained to get decent sound quality. Then you have to edit them anyway, and paste the result into your production. Or, if this isn't how articles get into the mag, someone will have to read submitted articles into a mike. I don't see the advantages of this. I think of this last approach as to either reading braille or listening to a Talking Book, in which case, I would prefer the braille and read it myself. I do not see the advantage of listening to someone read the written text to me if I can read it myself in the form of an Email. Then again, I'm listening to a computer read it to me, anyway, unless a braille display is used, which is not an option for a lot of list subscribers. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Ron Schamerhorn" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members Hi I'll have to agree. Yes I'll admit to dropping the ball on things but like Tom says it's life and computer crashes don't help. and all things being equal whenever did Shaun ever submit something? I had both my primary and external die in about a month of each other. I do want to switch to more of a podcast format as I agree it's time to move. a friend and I are working on it. I plan to stay at the helm it just takes some thinking in an alternative version. Ron On 06-Mar-2013 11:38 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, While I agree that it is a pity that Audyssey hasn't kept up with the quarterly release schedule I also know that life does get in the way. Once I reboot the Audyssey site we can see if we can encourage Ron to step up a magazine release, appoint a new editor or something, but calling it rubbish is a pretty harsh and unfair assessment of the magazine. On 3/6/13, shaun everiss wrote: I aggree kev. however as far as I can remember, articles dropped off so now audiogames.net is where you go and audyssey is crappy rubbish! I am not saying don't take it out the bin and dust it off, but the fact is that there is almost nothing to read in it these days and its so nonregular I don't notice it as much as I used to. I do support the revival, previding the mag can be edited by a few or something at least get a regular schedual as it used to have. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6152 - Release Date: 03/06/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor.
Ok so I got the acorn. But now I'm not sure what to do now that I have all five parts of the catalyst. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 7:58 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. You need a trap to catch the squirrel spoilers: get the stick and the stone, combine them together then use them in the clearing. Get the walnut from thelarder and use that with the clearing as well. then leave and reenter the courtyard. Go to the clearing and then you should automatically get the acehorn in your inventory. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 15:25, Bryan Peterson schreef: But how do you get the acorn from the squirrel? But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:30 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. When you interact with the gate, after you got the vision and you looked up how to make the cataclyst in your cell notes, there should be an option to break it. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 14:26, Bryan Peterson schreef: I didn't think you could complete the catylist before you learned about the librarian. But how do you break the gate to get the rest of the items? But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:17 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hello, The game is rather liniar, I always finished the cataclyst puzzle first before talking more to the librarian. You will first need to get the rope, then approach the librarian. You will then get hte message that you need another item, then you can get the tapestry piece. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 13:51, Bryan Peterson schreef: I can only find one tapestry, that being on the balcony. And he won't take it. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hi, Yes not getting the devine help to work and also probbably not being able to see the objectives 9what you need to do at this time according to the game) makes it a lot more difficult to play, here is what you need to do (spoilers): to subdue the librarian you need to get the rope from the stable and you need to take tapestry in one of the upstairs corridors. to finish the cataclyst you will need to break the gate in the courtyard this will reveal a clearing and some extra items that you can use. Hope this helps, If you like you can also email me offlist if you need further help as to not congest the list completely. my email address is radix.an...@gmail.com Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 03:35, Bryan Peterson schreef: I also can't get Divine Help to work so I'm thoroughly stumped. I hae the mushrooms, lichen and leaves. I even spoke to the guard outside the Abbet's study. Then I spoke to the librarian again and collected all the cloth scraps. I used them in front of the window of my cell and talked to the librarian again, and it's at tis point that I'm stumped. Because not only do I have to somehow incapacitate the librarian but I also still have to finish the catalyst or whatever. So I'd really appreciate any help. And while the stableman does seem to show up in the stables againI can neither talk to him nor examine him. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Mich Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I to picked up the leaves stone and saw the sticks and mushrooms and also a squerl. that is how far I have gotten in the game as well. I have not broken the gate yet. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I did pick up the leaves, mushrooms and lichen. But other than those I only saw threesticks, a twig, a heavy stone and the head of a statue. But thou must! -Original Message- From: michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:41 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hey, Brian. In the courtyard you need to pick up the leaves, mushrooms, and there should be a relic that you can pick up. When you get to brake the gate you can get the flower. These items need to be put together once you have them all, then use the new item with the vision. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to ga
Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor.
I'm trying that. But it won't work. Oh I built the trap all right but whenI use the wallnut with it he won't do it. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 7:58 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. You need a trap to catch the squirrel spoilers: get the stick and the stone, combine them together then use them in the clearing. Get the walnut from thelarder and use that with the clearing as well. then leave and reenter the courtyard. Go to the clearing and then you should automatically get the acehorn in your inventory. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 15:25, Bryan Peterson schreef: But how do you get the acorn from the squirrel? But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:30 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. When you interact with the gate, after you got the vision and you looked up how to make the cataclyst in your cell notes, there should be an option to break it. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 14:26, Bryan Peterson schreef: I didn't think you could complete the catylist before you learned about the librarian. But how do you break the gate to get the rest of the items? But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:17 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hello, The game is rather liniar, I always finished the cataclyst puzzle first before talking more to the librarian. You will first need to get the rope, then approach the librarian. You will then get hte message that you need another item, then you can get the tapestry piece. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 13:51, Bryan Peterson schreef: I can only find one tapestry, that being on the balcony. And he won't take it. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hi, Yes not getting the devine help to work and also probbably not being able to see the objectives 9what you need to do at this time according to the game) makes it a lot more difficult to play, here is what you need to do (spoilers): to subdue the librarian you need to get the rope from the stable and you need to take tapestry in one of the upstairs corridors. to finish the cataclyst you will need to break the gate in the courtyard this will reveal a clearing and some extra items that you can use. Hope this helps, If you like you can also email me offlist if you need further help as to not congest the list completely. my email address is radix.an...@gmail.com Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 03:35, Bryan Peterson schreef: I also can't get Divine Help to work so I'm thoroughly stumped. I hae the mushrooms, lichen and leaves. I even spoke to the guard outside the Abbet's study. Then I spoke to the librarian again and collected all the cloth scraps. I used them in front of the window of my cell and talked to the librarian again, and it's at tis point that I'm stumped. Because not only do I have to somehow incapacitate the librarian but I also still have to finish the catalyst or whatever. So I'd really appreciate any help. And while the stableman does seem to show up in the stables againI can neither talk to him nor examine him. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Mich Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I to picked up the leaves stone and saw the sticks and mushrooms and also a squerl. that is how far I have gotten in the game as well. I have not broken the gate yet. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I did pick up the leaves, mushrooms and lichen. But other than those I only saw threesticks, a twig, a heavy stone and the head of a statue. But thou must! -Original Message- From: michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:41 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hey, Brian. In the courtyard you need to pick up the leaves, mushrooms, and there should be a relic that you can pick up. When you get to brake the gate you can get the flower. These items need to be put together once you have them all, then use the new item with the vision. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send
[Audyssey] Getting swamp to work with windows 7
Hi I am trying to get swamp to work with my computer running a 32 bit version of windows 7. When I attempted to run the game it gave me that error message saying that one of mswinscks dependencies were mssing and stuff. So, I copied that file to the c\windows\system32 folder.Now, I don't know if this is correct, but I hit the windows key with r and typed in cmd. The read me file said to run it as an administrator but I didn't know how because I didn't know where the command prompt icon was. Anyway I typed in the 5 commands that were in the read me file and it gave me an error saying that the module was loaded but there was something about it failing to bring up a dll call server or something. Then I thought maybe I should try msinet just to see what would happen and low and behold it succceeded. Then I tried mswinsck again and it failed again. Also, I think I have direct x 8. Is that compatible with swamp or do I have to specifically have direct x 7 Thanks for all your help --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members
I volunteer, and I might misspell the last name, Kelly Sapurgia. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members Hi Shaun, Regarding podcasts etc we can discuss that once the new website is up and running. However, if we are going to do it we need a decent show host to do the podcast. Not everyone is necessarily qualified for that position and as with any kind of public media it takes the right kind of person to do it properly not to mention the right kind of equipment etc. For example, I have listened to a number of amateur podcasts where the person throws in a number of "oh" and "um" and "uh" every few minutes which is absolutely irritating. All of that can be edited out of course, but few amateur podcasters take the time to get a nice professional cast by editing out all the extra garbage. So if we went with a podcast I would hope we could find plenty of people willing to do editing and post production to get a high quality and professional cast rather than something produced by someone's $10.00 PC microphone and a sound recording program. Cheers! On 3/6/13, shaun everiss wrote: on the note of change though this may disadvantage a relitive few, I want to put foreward the thought about putting audyssey mag to be in a podcast form of a sort. There are several reasons. firstly we have 1 central editor, ron doing everything. That was fine with a central editer with disks and even in the early days of the net but as I found myself offline life and other junk in general gets me to not be able to complete all things I wanted. unless I focus on it soly for example yesterday I took down the entire network for a virus scan and image backup. I killed several viruses in the backup drives and imaged 2 units but it took roughly 24 hours to do it and I didn't do anything in fact most of it was done while I was sleeping. Another point. why bother about audyssey.org at all, we have the audiogames forum for just about everything. I respected the mag, it was good. when mike fair did it, but most of the goodness was before the net. in the year 1995 that changed slowly but surely. Sadly not to many articles come out . The magazine is prity much crap and junk and stupid now. I stress that its crappyness is not its fault, its just its not been upgraded in ages probably since it came online. A lot of news is in the forum more update sometimes than the news the devs send and they hardly send anything out these days its all slowed down. Even the opensource hackers have slowed. its not as good as it was pickings are slim, etc. We probably should upgrade it to some sort of cast on different reviews including game demos and playthroughs etc, I can't do everything but thanks to a little dosh required to get my system to a level where I can broadcast off it to tbrn on a cohosting role I have a adaquit microphone setup, ofcause I can't record game reviews and recordings at the same time without it sounding from an outside pospective but still,it could be something to do. I realise that not everyone will a appreciate this especially those on dialup but I feel that a sofficient number of people are on broadband sertainly enough to justify the upgrade. On the other hand stopping audyssey and switching it back to google groups and not having the mag is fine. If text is still what people want the only other way to do it is reduce the format, there used to be a letters sections a reviews section, a dnd section sometimes an imortal gamer section and a dev news section. The game adventure stuff with the imortal gamer and or game rescue unit really grabs me so if thats left in fine. the letters are most emails from the list so should go. the dev news should go unless devs want to post their junk at the mag. the dnd section should stay. reviews and casts are on the forums but I guess some for stuff not reviewed before can go there. the articles can stay to. Also I think that 1. either we have a shorter publication time to publish or just pile everything in every 6 months or something. I can't even remember the last issue I think I glanced over the last few without much interest. the first 20-30 were the best but with the net thats prity much moved focus of tech and junk away from the old text mag. The other thing is, how much is actually out there. most of it we know bar vary few things that are not coman. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the
[Audyssey] making sound packs for alter aeon for mush client
Hi, I am a novice mudder who is looking to make a sound pack for use with the mush z client. Anyone know of any "direction" sites or articles on how I can do this? Thanks Keith --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor.
You need a trap to catch the squirrel spoilers: get the stick and the stone, combine them together then use them in the clearing. Get the walnut from thelarder and use that with the clearing as well. then leave and reenter the courtyard. Go to the clearing and then you should automatically get the acehorn in your inventory. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 15:25, Bryan Peterson schreef: But how do you get the acorn from the squirrel? But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:30 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. When you interact with the gate, after you got the vision and you looked up how to make the cataclyst in your cell notes, there should be an option to break it. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 14:26, Bryan Peterson schreef: I didn't think you could complete the catylist before you learned about the librarian. But how do you break the gate to get the rest of the items? But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:17 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hello, The game is rather liniar, I always finished the cataclyst puzzle first before talking more to the librarian. You will first need to get the rope, then approach the librarian. You will then get hte message that you need another item, then you can get the tapestry piece. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 13:51, Bryan Peterson schreef: I can only find one tapestry, that being on the balcony. And he won't take it. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hi, Yes not getting the devine help to work and also probbably not being able to see the objectives 9what you need to do at this time according to the game) makes it a lot more difficult to play, here is what you need to do (spoilers): to subdue the librarian you need to get the rope from the stable and you need to take tapestry in one of the upstairs corridors. to finish the cataclyst you will need to break the gate in the courtyard this will reveal a clearing and some extra items that you can use. Hope this helps, If you like you can also email me offlist if you need further help as to not congest the list completely. my email address is radix.an...@gmail.com Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 03:35, Bryan Peterson schreef: I also can't get Divine Help to work so I'm thoroughly stumped. I hae the mushrooms, lichen and leaves. I even spoke to the guard outside the Abbet's study. Then I spoke to the librarian again and collected all the cloth scraps. I used them in front of the window of my cell and talked to the librarian again, and it's at tis point that I'm stumped. Because not only do I have to somehow incapacitate the librarian but I also still have to finish the catalyst or whatever. So I'd really appreciate any help. And while the stableman does seem to show up in the stables againI can neither talk to him nor examine him. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Mich Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I to picked up the leaves stone and saw the sticks and mushrooms and also a squerl. that is how far I have gotten in the game as well. I have not broken the gate yet. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I did pick up the leaves, mushrooms and lichen. But other than those I only saw threesticks, a twig, a heavy stone and the head of a statue. But thou must! -Original Message- From: michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:41 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hey, Brian. In the courtyard you need to pick up the leaves, mushrooms, and there should be a relic that you can pick up. When you get to brake the gate you can get the flower. These items need to be put together once you have them all, then use the new item with the vision. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audys
Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor.
But how do you get the acorn from the squirrel? But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:30 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. When you interact with the gate, after you got the vision and you looked up how to make the cataclyst in your cell notes, there should be an option to break it. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 14:26, Bryan Peterson schreef: I didn't think you could complete the catylist before you learned about the librarian. But how do you break the gate to get the rest of the items? But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:17 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hello, The game is rather liniar, I always finished the cataclyst puzzle first before talking more to the librarian. You will first need to get the rope, then approach the librarian. You will then get hte message that you need another item, then you can get the tapestry piece. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 13:51, Bryan Peterson schreef: I can only find one tapestry, that being on the balcony. And he won't take it. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hi, Yes not getting the devine help to work and also probbably not being able to see the objectives 9what you need to do at this time according to the game) makes it a lot more difficult to play, here is what you need to do (spoilers): to subdue the librarian you need to get the rope from the stable and you need to take tapestry in one of the upstairs corridors. to finish the cataclyst you will need to break the gate in the courtyard this will reveal a clearing and some extra items that you can use. Hope this helps, If you like you can also email me offlist if you need further help as to not congest the list completely. my email address is radix.an...@gmail.com Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 03:35, Bryan Peterson schreef: I also can't get Divine Help to work so I'm thoroughly stumped. I hae the mushrooms, lichen and leaves. I even spoke to the guard outside the Abbet's study. Then I spoke to the librarian again and collected all the cloth scraps. I used them in front of the window of my cell and talked to the librarian again, and it's at tis point that I'm stumped. Because not only do I have to somehow incapacitate the librarian but I also still have to finish the catalyst or whatever. So I'd really appreciate any help. And while the stableman does seem to show up in the stables againI can neither talk to him nor examine him. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Mich Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I to picked up the leaves stone and saw the sticks and mushrooms and also a squerl. that is how far I have gotten in the game as well. I have not broken the gate yet. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I did pick up the leaves, mushrooms and lichen. But other than those I only saw threesticks, a twig, a heavy stone and the head of a statue. But thou must! -Original Message- From: michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:41 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hey, Brian. In the courtyard you need to pick up the leaves, mushrooms, and there should be a relic that you can pick up. When you get to brake the gate you can get the flower. These items need to be put together once you have them all, then use the new item with the vision. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or upd
Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor.
When you interact with the gate, after you got the vision and you looked up how to make the cataclyst in your cell notes, there should be an option to break it. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 14:26, Bryan Peterson schreef: I didn't think you could complete the catylist before you learned about the librarian. But how do you break the gate to get the rest of the items? But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:17 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hello, The game is rather liniar, I always finished the cataclyst puzzle first before talking more to the librarian. You will first need to get the rope, then approach the librarian. You will then get hte message that you need another item, then you can get the tapestry piece. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 13:51, Bryan Peterson schreef: I can only find one tapestry, that being on the balcony. And he won't take it. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hi, Yes not getting the devine help to work and also probbably not being able to see the objectives 9what you need to do at this time according to the game) makes it a lot more difficult to play, here is what you need to do (spoilers): to subdue the librarian you need to get the rope from the stable and you need to take tapestry in one of the upstairs corridors. to finish the cataclyst you will need to break the gate in the courtyard this will reveal a clearing and some extra items that you can use. Hope this helps, If you like you can also email me offlist if you need further help as to not congest the list completely. my email address is radix.an...@gmail.com Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 03:35, Bryan Peterson schreef: I also can't get Divine Help to work so I'm thoroughly stumped. I hae the mushrooms, lichen and leaves. I even spoke to the guard outside the Abbet's study. Then I spoke to the librarian again and collected all the cloth scraps. I used them in front of the window of my cell and talked to the librarian again, and it's at tis point that I'm stumped. Because not only do I have to somehow incapacitate the librarian but I also still have to finish the catalyst or whatever. So I'd really appreciate any help. And while the stableman does seem to show up in the stables againI can neither talk to him nor examine him. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Mich Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I to picked up the leaves stone and saw the sticks and mushrooms and also a squerl. that is how far I have gotten in the game as well. I have not broken the gate yet. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I did pick up the leaves, mushrooms and lichen. But other than those I only saw threesticks, a twig, a heavy stone and the head of a statue. But thou must! -Original Message- From: michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:41 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hey, Brian. In the courtyard you need to pick up the leaves, mushrooms, and there should be a relic that you can pick up. When you get to brake the gate you can get the flower. These items need to be put together once you have them all, then use the new item with the vision. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any
Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor.
I didn't think you could complete the catylist before you learned about the librarian. But how do you break the gate to get the rest of the items? But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:17 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hello, The game is rather liniar, I always finished the cataclyst puzzle first before talking more to the librarian. You will first need to get the rope, then approach the librarian. You will then get hte message that you need another item, then you can get the tapestry piece. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 13:51, Bryan Peterson schreef: I can only find one tapestry, that being on the balcony. And he won't take it. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hi, Yes not getting the devine help to work and also probbably not being able to see the objectives 9what you need to do at this time according to the game) makes it a lot more difficult to play, here is what you need to do (spoilers): to subdue the librarian you need to get the rope from the stable and you need to take tapestry in one of the upstairs corridors. to finish the cataclyst you will need to break the gate in the courtyard this will reveal a clearing and some extra items that you can use. Hope this helps, If you like you can also email me offlist if you need further help as to not congest the list completely. my email address is radix.an...@gmail.com Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 03:35, Bryan Peterson schreef: I also can't get Divine Help to work so I'm thoroughly stumped. I hae the mushrooms, lichen and leaves. I even spoke to the guard outside the Abbet's study. Then I spoke to the librarian again and collected all the cloth scraps. I used them in front of the window of my cell and talked to the librarian again, and it's at tis point that I'm stumped. Because not only do I have to somehow incapacitate the librarian but I also still have to finish the catalyst or whatever. So I'd really appreciate any help. And while the stableman does seem to show up in the stables againI can neither talk to him nor examine him. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Mich Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I to picked up the leaves stone and saw the sticks and mushrooms and also a squerl. that is how far I have gotten in the game as well. I have not broken the gate yet. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I did pick up the leaves, mushrooms and lichen. But other than those I only saw threesticks, a twig, a heavy stone and the head of a statue. But thou must! -Original Message- From: michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:41 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hey, Brian. In the courtyard you need to pick up the leaves, mushrooms, and there should be a relic that you can pick up. When you get to brake the gate you can get the flower. These items need to be put together once you have them all, then use the new item with the vision. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@aud
Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor.
Hello, The game is rather liniar, I always finished the cataclyst puzzle first before talking more to the librarian. You will first need to get the rope, then approach the librarian. You will then get hte message that you need another item, then you can get the tapestry piece. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 13:51, Bryan Peterson schreef: I can only find one tapestry, that being on the balcony. And he won't take it. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hi, Yes not getting the devine help to work and also probbably not being able to see the objectives 9what you need to do at this time according to the game) makes it a lot more difficult to play, here is what you need to do (spoilers): to subdue the librarian you need to get the rope from the stable and you need to take tapestry in one of the upstairs corridors. to finish the cataclyst you will need to break the gate in the courtyard this will reveal a clearing and some extra items that you can use. Hope this helps, If you like you can also email me offlist if you need further help as to not congest the list completely. my email address is radix.an...@gmail.com Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 03:35, Bryan Peterson schreef: I also can't get Divine Help to work so I'm thoroughly stumped. I hae the mushrooms, lichen and leaves. I even spoke to the guard outside the Abbet's study. Then I spoke to the librarian again and collected all the cloth scraps. I used them in front of the window of my cell and talked to the librarian again, and it's at tis point that I'm stumped. Because not only do I have to somehow incapacitate the librarian but I also still have to finish the catalyst or whatever. So I'd really appreciate any help. And while the stableman does seem to show up in the stables againI can neither talk to him nor examine him. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Mich Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I to picked up the leaves stone and saw the sticks and mushrooms and also a squerl. that is how far I have gotten in the game as well. I have not broken the gate yet. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I did pick up the leaves, mushrooms and lichen. But other than those I only saw threesticks, a twig, a heavy stone and the head of a statue. But thou must! -Original Message- From: michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:41 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hey, Brian. In the courtyard you need to pick up the leaves, mushrooms, and there should be a relic that you can pick up. When you get to brake the gate you can get the flower. These items need to be put together once you have them all, then use the new item with the vision. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list,
Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor.
I can only find one tapestry, that being on the balcony. And he won't take it. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hi, Yes not getting the devine help to work and also probbably not being able to see the objectives 9what you need to do at this time according to the game) makes it a lot more difficult to play, here is what you need to do (spoilers): to subdue the librarian you need to get the rope from the stable and you need to take tapestry in one of the upstairs corridors. to finish the cataclyst you will need to break the gate in the courtyard this will reveal a clearing and some extra items that you can use. Hope this helps, If you like you can also email me offlist if you need further help as to not congest the list completely. my email address is radix.an...@gmail.com Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 03:35, Bryan Peterson schreef: I also can't get Divine Help to work so I'm thoroughly stumped. I hae the mushrooms, lichen and leaves. I even spoke to the guard outside the Abbet's study. Then I spoke to the librarian again and collected all the cloth scraps. I used them in front of the window of my cell and talked to the librarian again, and it's at tis point that I'm stumped. Because not only do I have to somehow incapacitate the librarian but I also still have to finish the catalyst or whatever. So I'd really appreciate any help. And while the stableman does seem to show up in the stables againI can neither talk to him nor examine him. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Mich Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I to picked up the leaves stone and saw the sticks and mushrooms and also a squerl. that is how far I have gotten in the game as well. I have not broken the gate yet. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I did pick up the leaves, mushrooms and lichen. But other than those I only saw threesticks, a twig, a heavy stone and the head of a statue. But thou must! -Original Message- From: michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:41 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hey, Brian. In the courtyard you need to pick up the leaves, mushrooms, and there should be a relic that you can pick up. When you get to brake the gate you can get the flower. These items need to be put together once you have them all, then use the new item with the vision. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can b
Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor.
Already done. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:34 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. If you already had the vision then you should go back to your cell and consult your notes again. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 01:30, Bryan Peterson schreef: Well I had the vision, but after I talked with the stablehand the first time he left. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:24 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hi try talking to the stablehand again, and the guard. Try looking at the vision in the courtyard this will give you pointers on what you need to do next. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 01:15, Bryan Peterson schreef: I did consult my notes. Then I was able to talk to the Abbet. I talked to the librarian but neither was very forthcoming. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. try going to your cell and consult your notes. Also try talking to the librarian. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 00:54, Bryan Peterson schreef: Except that the Abbet won't talk to me. It just gives me the option to examine him. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. You need to talk to the worried servant a few times. Then talk to the abbott again Greetings,Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 00:33, Bryan Peterson schreef: I’ve spoken to the Abbet, then went to the stables. I took the rope and saddle and then spoke to the stable hand. Then I went and spoke to the worried servant, but now I’m at a loss for what to do next. I’d really appreciate any help. But thou must! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail t
Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members
One can only work with what one gets. On 07-Mar-2013 2:00 AM, shaun everiss wrote: I don't know tom it was unfair to the mag in its origiona format and I wouldn't dis it. however I feel that over the last few issues as stuff has shifted that it has degraded over the years. most of the news and letters I have gotten weeks in advance. Most have the net well most of the western section of the world has it any maybe others my point is, in the old days audyssey was a mail magazine then a magazine that was round on the net. Its primary purpose was for the interactive fiction and other dos games. along comes the net and its job is prity much done as it is. A revision of the magazine needs to be urgently performed. Its funny, I used to read the mag and waste a good hour on it. over the last few years its been this small pile of crap, not that its crap but most of it I have seen before, vary little articles, and audiogames.net had a lot more info. Though every time I read it I remembered the older issues. Every time I thought, hmmm this mag really needs something done its total crap, I'll do something about it. Then I'd promptly forget. I had loads of ideas for the mag then I'dconvieniently forget those. The down hill of the trend of the mag has been on my mind ever since issue 31 onwards. If audyssey.org will be articles and stuff thats fine but bar the news from the devs that did not make to email well all the news maybe the dnd articles and the adventure article gru and imortal gamer and other columns well if these are shifted thats the end of the mag. though I can't wait for a revision. At 05:38 PM 3/7/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, While I agree that it is a pity that Audyssey hasn't kept up with the quarterly release schedule I also know that life does get in the way. Once I reboot the Audyssey site we can see if we can encourage Ron to step up a magazine release, appoint a new editor or something, but calling it rubbish is a pretty harsh and unfair assessment of the magazine. On 3/6/13, shaun everiss wrote: > I aggree kev. > however as far as I can remember, articles dropped off so > now audiogames.net is where you go and audyssey is crappy rubbish! > I am not saying don't take it out the bin and dust it off, but the > fact is that there is almost nothing to read in it these days and its > so nonregular I don't notice it as much as I used to. > I do support the revival, previding the mag can be edited by a few > or something at least get a regular schedual as it used to have. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6152 - Release Date: 03/06/13 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor.
Hi, Yes not getting the devine help to work and also probbably not being able to see the objectives 9what you need to do at this time according to the game) makes it a lot more difficult to play, here is what you need to do (spoilers): to subdue the librarian you need to get the rope from the stable and you need to take tapestry in one of the upstairs corridors. to finish the cataclyst you will need to break the gate in the courtyard this will reveal a clearing and some extra items that you can use. Hope this helps, If you like you can also email me offlist if you need further help as to not congest the list completely. my email address is radix.an...@gmail.com Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 03:35, Bryan Peterson schreef: I also can't get Divine Help to work so I'm thoroughly stumped. I hae the mushrooms, lichen and leaves. I even spoke to the guard outside the Abbet's study. Then I spoke to the librarian again and collected all the cloth scraps. I used them in front of the window of my cell and talked to the librarian again, and it's at tis point that I'm stumped. Because not only do I have to somehow incapacitate the librarian but I also still have to finish the catalyst or whatever. So I'd really appreciate any help. And while the stableman does seem to show up in the stables againI can neither talk to him nor examine him. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Mich Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I to picked up the leaves stone and saw the sticks and mushrooms and also a squerl. that is how far I have gotten in the game as well. I have not broken the gate yet. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. I did pick up the leaves, mushrooms and lichen. But other than those I only saw threesticks, a twig, a heavy stone and the head of a statue. But thou must! -Original Message- From: michael barnes Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:41 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hey, Brian. In the courtyard you need to pick up the leaves, mushrooms, and there should be a relic that you can pick up. When you get to brake the gate you can get the flower. These items need to be put together once you have them all, then use the new item with the vision. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor.
If you already had the vision then you should go back to your cell and consult your notes again. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 01:30, Bryan Peterson schreef: Well I had the vision, but after I talked with the stablehand the first time he left. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:24 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. Hi try talking to the stablehand again, and the guard. Try looking at the vision in the courtyard this will give you pointers on what you need to do next. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 01:15, Bryan Peterson schreef: I did consult my notes. Then I was able to talk to the Abbet. I talked to the librarian but neither was very forthcoming. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. try going to your cell and consult your notes. Also try talking to the librarian. Greetings, Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 00:54, Bryan Peterson schreef: Except that the Abbet won't talk to me. It just gives me the option to examine him. But thou must! -Original Message- From: anouk radix Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Stuck in The Inquisitor. You need to talk to the worried servant a few times. Then talk to the abbott again Greetings,Anouk, Op 07/03/2013 00:33, Bryan Peterson schreef: I’ve spoken to the Abbet, then went to the stables. I took the rope and saddle and then spoke to the stable hand. Then I went and spoke to the worried servant, but now I’m at a loss for what to do next. I’d really appreciate any help. But thou must! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and
Re: [Audyssey] Important Notice For All List Members
Hi Shaun, I do not know of another game out there like my Dungeon Master game that I put out last year. Same with my strip war game that I put out last year. And even though it is a simple little game, I did release my Press Your Luck game this year. BFN - Original Message - well audiogames.net has the established database, link to it if you want but you are reinventing the wheel. On the other hand we need to have some sort of mirror for audiogames.net. audiogames.net is the main database resource and this means if it goes down for any reason thats most of us gone. However the forums are really the only places anyting goes on these days, the mainstream blind devs seeem publically stuck. no major releases from well I don't know but to be honest no revolutionary games have come out this year or last year really. sure we have had bits but still. Jim I remember when I used to peek and poke. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] TTS issues
Hi Thomas, My winkit.zip install does include a sapi.dll file. So if that file had gotten corrupt... The files in winkit.zip are ASYCFILT.DLL COMCAT.DLL dx8vb.dll gamemenu.BAT gamemenu.exe kitchensinc.DDF life.exe life.txt liferecs.txt lifesave.brf LIFESPIN.WAV LIFESTEP.WAV LIFETTL.WAV MSVBVM60.DLL OLEAUT32.DLL OLEPRO32.DLL readme.htm SAPI.DLL SETUP.EXE Setup.Lst SETUP1.EXE ST6UNST.EXE STDOLE2.TLB VB6STKIT.DLL BFN Jim I remember when I used to peek and poke. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
