Re: [Audyssey] Email List
Hi John, Well, as I have mentioned on another thread here I've decided against setting up a forum as many list members are dead set against that idea. So regardless what we will do we will still have a mailing list we just have to see if we can fix what is wrong with our mail server or find a different service provider. :D Cheers! On 11/15/13, John Snowling wrote: > Hi. > > I think having a list on either yahoo or google groups is much better but > i'd be happy to adopt whatever happens. If we do go down the forums line > then maybe a how to use forums would be a good thing to have as i've never > fully used one. > > cheers. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Angela Delicata" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 9:25 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message > > >> The same here: I'd prefer a mailing list. >> Thanks. >> Angela from Italy >> >> >> Il 15/11/2013 04:53, Charles Rivard ha scritto: >>> If Yahoogroups is not very accessible, I wonder if Googlegroups is. I, >>> for one, very much prefer a mailing list over a forum. I would only >>> even consider a forum as the absolute last resort. Thanks. >>> >>> --- >>> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're >>> finished, you! really! are! finished! >>> - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" >>> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:39 PM >>> Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message >>> >>> Hello, List: I know a number of you have been having technical issues with the Audyssey Mailing List ever since we changed servers a few months back. Some of you have been unsubscribed from the list without warning or notification, some of your accounts were automatically put on no mail by Mailman, some of you could get list mail but were unable to post messages, and some of you haven't had any problems at all. Despite numerous attempts to uncover the root of all these problems no one as yet has found out what is causing these and other technical issues. Just this afternoon another list member has come to me with problems with his subscription. As usual I have turned it over to the server admins in hopes that a solution may finally be found. If not then I think it might be in our best interests to think about a different solution. What I mean by that is simply this. I know that many of you are here because you would prefer a mailing list over a forum. However, it seems for whatever reason Mailman, the software we use to run the list, is having problems making it a hassle for many list members, the admins, and myself to keep this going as is. If we can not resolve the technical problems in the next few days I wonder how many of you would strongly object to me replacing this list with an Audyssey forum similar to what Audiogames.net has now. Alternatively if you strongly object to a forum I suppose we could go back to Yahoo Groups or try Google Groups instead. Any thoughts? Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP >> >> autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f >> >> Sponsor: >> ANGRY BIRDS: Acquista Peluche e Gadget Originali su mistercupido.com >> Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=12900&d=15-11 >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If
Re: [Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0
I may have to look into that myself. I've also been blind my entire 33 years and could never quite get the hang of this writing print business. I can sign my first and last initials but even that's probably not very consistent. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 6:36 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0 Yes, it’s instructive and fun. Just what I needed, being blind from birth and though familiar with letter and number shapes from playing with alphabet blocks as a kid, I haven’t written them much. This is good practice, since I’d like to enter my passcode without the thing blabbing to the rest of the world. :) Great job, guys. Teresa "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham On Nov 16, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi, Wow! Sounds like a neat little app. Now, if only I had an iPhone I'd give it a try. :D Cheers! On 11/16/13, Draconis wrote: Greetings gamers, We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of our first application for iOS! DoItWrite is an educational tool and game to teach visually impaired users of iOS 7's VoiceOver screen reader how to draw printed letters and numbers for use with VoiceOver's handwriting feature in iOS 7. Learn to draw lowercase letters, uppercase letters;;, and numbers for use with iOS 7's VoiceOver handwriting feature! This app is primarily intended for the blind or visually impaired, teachers or instructors of same, and other users of iOS 7's VoiceOver screen reader. Many blind or visually impaired people are not familiar with the shapes of printed letters or numbers. DoItWrite teaches you how to draw them in a simple way that has the best chance of being correctly recognized by VoiceOver, even if you have never learned the shapes of the characters previously. Once you get them down, practice your speed and accuracy with a fun game to blast characters as they tumble down the screen! * Learn how to activate the VoiceOver handwriting feature in iOS 7 * Learn how to draw lowercase and uppercase letters, as well as numbers in a simple and accurate way. * Practice your newly acquired skills by blasting letters and numbers as they tumble down the screen. * Use the app to improve your onscreen typing skills by using the keyboard during game play. * Automatic feedback and coach via audio queues and speech output. * DoItWrite automatically detects when VoiceOver is not running, and permits the tutorial to be browsed with the onscreen keyboard. Great for sighted teachers and tutors! * Share your game scores with others. * Many ways to customize your learning experience. DoItWrite is available on the iOS App Store for $1.99 USD. (Prices will vary for your local currency.) http://appstore.com/doitwrite For more information, visit us online at http://DracoEnt.com Happy gaming. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Or when Gizmo got wet LOL. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Shaun, Lol! Wrong kind of gremlin. Here in America whenever something goes wrong with a piece of equipment, software fails, mechanical failure, etc we jokingly blame the problem on a gremlin which is not the same thing as the gremlins in the gremlins movie. Gremlins according to folk tales are actually suppose to be a race of magical beings, kind of like nasty elves, that go around causing trouble for humans by breaking things or pulling pranks on people. The gremlins in the gremlins movie were ugly little monsters created when Billy fed the little Mugwas after midnight which isn't quite the same thing as gremlins in the folk tale sense. Cheers! On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: Well catch it and stick it in the microwave if you have seen the gremlin 1 and 2 films you will know what I am talking about. hmm also I think the film mentioned not feading it after mightnight. Dark have you being feeding the gremlin again or something --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Ah, but I have mail filters set up with mailboxes that I haven’t, uh, perused in quite awhile. I could not handle mailing-list messages going to my inbox, unless the mailing list is very small. This one isn’t. :) Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Nov 16, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Shaun, > > Well, that may be the case, but that is really the advantage of a > forum. A person can go to the forum, click on the new link, and use > the h key to look at all the various threads with new posts and only > read the ones of interest. If there is a thread on BK2 and I have no > interest in that game I can skip it. With a mailing list everything is > just mailed to a person's inbox and they have to delete all the > messages they don't want to read before reading the ones they do want > to read. However, that is a mute point since I have decided not to set > up a forum here on Audyssey. > > Cheers! > > > On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: >> I agree I like both. >> I have a big time trying to access everything I want in audiogames. >> These days I only really go down the first 3-4 topics on each topic >> page and every sub forum. >> There are to many to view them all. >> And there are spam posters, and other things to. >> Sometimes the audiogames forum database overloads like it has been >> this week and I can not get on from time to time. >> The forum is ok I guess but if it overloads then there will be issues. >> And also I barely read everything on those as it is. >> Saying that it may be an idea to include an announcement list which >> handles all the releases and such mag issues and other important stuff. >> I do still like the discussion list as it is in particular because I >> can post things faster and other such things. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] This message is for Dark
I was just getting used to NVDA when I switched to the Mac. I had a little pang of regret, because at the time, I thought NVDA had a lot of promise. I still think it’s a great solution. It’s still installed on my husband’s Windows computer in case I need it, and I have a portable copy to use on friends’ PCs. Anyway, Thomas, I agree with you. We have power if we get together and use it. Teresa "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham On Nov 16, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Shaun, > > Unfortunately, that is all too common when it comes to corporate > capitalism. It seems the larger and more well known the company in > question the people at the top of the corporate ladder are less and > less likely to care about their customers and only think about money, > money, money. It has always been that way, and it is the very reason > the United States government has had to step in and break up > monopolies, because once a corporation grew to a certain size they > began to abuse their wealth and power by charging high prices for > products and services, ignoring accessibility concerns, whatever. > However, there is always a counter balance that shift things back in > the other direction eventually. > > To pud it this way, you said the corporations see us as ants. That may > be true, but in the wild get enough ants together and they can bring > down an elephant. Individually they might be weak, but as a single > unit the aunts are stronger than any single animal that happens to > step on their ant hill. The corporate markets work in a similar way. > > Here in the USA and around the world Freedom Scientific has > consistently tried to monopolize the access technology market. They > have all kinds of deals going with state agencies, other corporations, > and have cared less and less about their customer base. However, some > of the customers are fighting back by creating a free/low cost screen > reader like NVDA, and everyone who can contribute to NVDA does so. As > a result in the space of five years or so NVDA has taken a huge chunk > of Freedom Scientific's screen reader market a lot of that was due to > their high prices, bad tech support, buggy software, and NVDA has made > a big difference for people like myself who couldn't afford the price > Freedom Scientific were charging for Jaws. Those customers who chose > to drop Jaws for NVDA may have been akin to ants initially, but get a > few thousand or more customers to leave Jaws for NVDA and Freedom > Scientific stands to lose millions of dollars because of their greedy > practices. As I said there are always checks and balances even for the > mightiest corporations. > > Cheers! > > > On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: >> Well I was talking on the subject of copywrite on another list. >> And I have come to the sad conclusion that the bigger the companies >> get the smaller their customers get and the less they actually care. >> The sharks care about anyting that can pose a threat in the case of >> companies these are others bigger than them or the same sise or >> slightly smaller. >> Nz is a small country which doesn't help but disabled anyone, imagine >> how small we are. >> We do not have the power to fight fish such as those what companies >> are made of. >> And they know we are small so they don't care. >> Even the big companies loose in the ongoing progress wars. >> We are little more than ants and thats the only conclusion I can make >> without swearing on list. >> Its the only thing I can think of. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0
Yes, it’s instructive and fun. Just what I needed, being blind from birth and though familiar with letter and number shapes from playing with alphabet blocks as a kid, I haven’t written them much. This is good practice, since I’d like to enter my passcode without the thing blabbing to the rest of the world. :) Great job, guys. Teresa "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham On Nov 16, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi, > > Wow! Sounds like a neat little app. Now, if only I had an iPhone I'd > give it a try. :D > > Cheers! > > On 11/16/13, Draconis wrote: >> Greetings gamers, >> >> We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of our first >> application for iOS! >> >> DoItWrite is an educational tool and game to teach visually impaired users >> of iOS 7's VoiceOver screen reader how to draw printed letters and numbers >> for use with VoiceOver's handwriting feature in iOS 7. >> >> Learn to draw lowercase letters, uppercase letters;;, and numbers for use >> with iOS 7's VoiceOver handwriting feature! >> >> This app is primarily intended for the blind or visually impaired, teachers >> or instructors of same, and other users of iOS 7's VoiceOver screen reader. >> >> Many blind or visually impaired people are not familiar with the shapes of >> printed letters or numbers. DoItWrite teaches you how to draw them in a >> simple way that has the best chance of being correctly recognized by >> VoiceOver, even if you have never learned the shapes of the characters >> previously. Once you get them down, practice your speed and accuracy with a >> fun game to blast characters as they tumble down the screen! >> >> * Learn how to activate the VoiceOver handwriting feature in iOS 7 >> * Learn how to draw lowercase and uppercase letters, as well as numbers in a >> simple and accurate way. >> * Practice your newly acquired skills by blasting letters and numbers as >> they tumble down the screen. >> * Use the app to improve your onscreen typing skills by using the keyboard >> during game play. >> * Automatic feedback and coach via audio queues and speech output. >> * DoItWrite automatically detects when VoiceOver is not running, and permits >> the tutorial to be browsed with the onscreen keyboard. Great for sighted >> teachers and tutors! >> * Share your game scores with others. >> * Many ways to customize your learning experience. >> >> DoItWrite is available on the iOS App Store for $1.99 USD. (Prices will vary >> for your local currency.) >> >> http://appstore.com/doitwrite >> >> For more information, visit us online at >> http://DracoEnt.com >> >> Happy gaming. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Shaun, Well, that may be the case, but that is really the advantage of a forum. A person can go to the forum, click on the new link, and use the h key to look at all the various threads with new posts and only read the ones of interest. If there is a thread on BK2 and I have no interest in that game I can skip it. With a mailing list everything is just mailed to a person's inbox and they have to delete all the messages they don't want to read before reading the ones they do want to read. However, that is a mute point since I have decided not to set up a forum here on Audyssey. Cheers! On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: > I agree I like both. > I have a big time trying to access everything I want in audiogames. > These days I only really go down the first 3-4 topics on each topic > page and every sub forum. > There are to many to view them all. > And there are spam posters, and other things to. > Sometimes the audiogames forum database overloads like it has been > this week and I can not get on from time to time. > The forum is ok I guess but if it overloads then there will be issues. > And also I barely read everything on those as it is. > Saying that it may be an idea to include an announcement list which > handles all the releases and such mag issues and other important stuff. > I do still like the discussion list as it is in particular because I > can post things faster and other such things. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] This message is for Dark
Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, that is all too common when it comes to corporate capitalism. It seems the larger and more well known the company in question the people at the top of the corporate ladder are less and less likely to care about their customers and only think about money, money, money. It has always been that way, and it is the very reason the United States government has had to step in and break up monopolies, because once a corporation grew to a certain size they began to abuse their wealth and power by charging high prices for products and services, ignoring accessibility concerns, whatever. However, there is always a counter balance that shift things back in the other direction eventually. To pud it this way, you said the corporations see us as ants. That may be true, but in the wild get enough ants together and they can bring down an elephant. Individually they might be weak, but as a single unit the aunts are stronger than any single animal that happens to step on their ant hill. The corporate markets work in a similar way. Here in the USA and around the world Freedom Scientific has consistently tried to monopolize the access technology market. They have all kinds of deals going with state agencies, other corporations, and have cared less and less about their customer base. However, some of the customers are fighting back by creating a free/low cost screen reader like NVDA, and everyone who can contribute to NVDA does so. As a result in the space of five years or so NVDA has taken a huge chunk of Freedom Scientific's screen reader market a lot of that was due to their high prices, bad tech support, buggy software, and NVDA has made a big difference for people like myself who couldn't afford the price Freedom Scientific were charging for Jaws. Those customers who chose to drop Jaws for NVDA may have been akin to ants initially, but get a few thousand or more customers to leave Jaws for NVDA and Freedom Scientific stands to lose millions of dollars because of their greedy practices. As I said there are always checks and balances even for the mightiest corporations. Cheers! On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: > Well I was talking on the subject of copywrite on another list. > And I have come to the sad conclusion that the bigger the companies > get the smaller their customers get and the less they actually care. > The sharks care about anyting that can pose a threat in the case of > companies these are others bigger than them or the same sise or > slightly smaller. > Nz is a small country which doesn't help but disabled anyone, imagine > how small we are. > We do not have the power to fight fish such as those what companies > are made of. > And they know we are small so they don't care. > Even the big companies loose in the ongoing progress wars. > We are little more than ants and thats the only conclusion I can make > without swearing on list. > Its the only thing I can think of. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] This message is for Dark
Well I was talking on the subject of copywrite on another list. And I have come to the sad conclusion that the bigger the companies get the smaller their customers get and the less they actually care. The sharks care about anyting that can pose a threat in the case of companies these are others bigger than them or the same sise or slightly smaller. Nz is a small country which doesn't help but disabled anyone, imagine how small we are. We do not have the power to fight fish such as those what companies are made of. And they know we are small so they don't care. Even the big companies loose in the ongoing progress wars. We are little more than ants and thats the only conclusion I can make without swearing on list. Its the only thing I can think of. At 06:46 PM 11/15/2013, you wrote: Hi Steven, Well, I think your message was intended for me not Dark, but in any case I'll address your message anyway. To begin with while I realize you were just stating an opinion I still think you were bordering on inflammatory when you failed to give reasons for your opinion. Calling something like Linux inferior without any explanation as to why you think and feel that way is unproductive in a discussion like this one. It also happens to be untrue as Linux is superior to Windows in a number of areas, and so is a viable option for some users who happen to like the OS for reasons of their own. So while I won't take your opinion personally I do think it may be a misinformed opinion. At any rate, to answer your question I think Apple should make a version of iTunes available for Linux simply to increase compatibility with their devices. If I am going to go out and pay $199 for a new iPhone I think I should be able to use it with any computer and operating system I choose regardless if it is running Windows, Mac, Linux, whatever. Weather Linux is inferior or not has nothing to do with it. I am a customer of theirs and I think I have the right to use their devices with whatever platform I happen to like best, or I simply do not buy their devices. End of story. I guess in a broader sense this is exactly what open source is all about. It is the freedom of choice. A person is not restricted to one choice of operating system. Most open source initiatives like Firefox, Thunderbird, Audacity, LibreOffice, to name a few give the end user a choice what platform and operating system they wish to use. A lot of closed source software usually only target one platform and one operating system restricting a persons choices to whatever the developer chooses. We are in fact facing this issue right now with audio games. As you know many audio games were developed specifically for Windows, but many blind users are migrating to Mac OS X. In order to play games they are having to run Windows in a virtual machine or to run Windows side by side with Mac OS. The best solution is to release a version of the game for both platforms. However, as the developers aren't interested in doing that the end user, the customer, is stuck doing without. Well, my feeling about iTunes is largely the same principle. I use Linux on several different computers because it is cheaper, does what I want it to do, and if an Apple iPhone isn't compatible with Linux then I'll simply have to find a different phone that is. If Apple is concerned about my business, which I am certain they aren't, they will make it possible for me to sink files to and from my Apple device with Linux. Perhaps if Apple's iPhone was the only show in town I might have a different opinion, but they aren't. Android is slowly but surely getting better, and it will do what I want it to do. So when it comes to freedom of choice Android is better. Cheers! On 11/14/13, steven wrote: > Dear Dark, > > For games, buying an iphone is much better than buying an Anddroid. I > Iphone, being the superior phone that it is, has more games than the > Anddroid. However, I do see the cost issue and some compatibility issues. > But why would Apple make Itutes for something as inferior as Linux? This is > my opinion, and should not be taken personally. > > Signed, > Steven > > > > "Witness for the defense, Albus Percival Wulfrick Brian Dumbledore." > > Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/
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I agree I like both. I have a big time trying to access everything I want in audiogames. These days I only really go down the first 3-4 topics on each topic page and every sub forum. There are to many to view them all. And there are spam posters, and other things to. Sometimes the audiogames forum database overloads like it has been this week and I can not get on from time to time. The forum is ok I guess but if it overloads then there will be issues. And also I barely read everything on those as it is. Saying that it may be an idea to include an announcement list which handles all the releases and such mag issues and other important stuff. I do still like the discussion list as it is in particular because I can post things faster and other such things. At 05:30 PM 11/15/2013, you wrote: Hey, Thomas. I actually like the email instead of forum. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, I forgot about that, but yes you are right. Although, when I was talking about gremlins I was not talking about the car either. :D Cheers! On 11/16/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > A Gremlin is also a small car made by Chevrolet. (another grin) > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, You might want to go read it again. I did not write fed but f'ed. There is an apostrophe between the f and the ed. That is the universal way to abbreviate the f word without spelling it all the way out. :D Cheers! On 11/16/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Fed??? I was thinking of a different word, and I'll bet you know what it > it. (grin) > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Cara, Thanks for the info. It was a while ago since using Google Groups, perhaps a year or so, and I'm definitely not up to speed with their new interface. In any case I'm trying to fix our mail server on Audyssey, and won't be going to a new service until we have run out of options to fix our mail server. Cheers! On 11/16/13, Cara Quinn wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Not sure how long ago you used G Groups, but this last round of changes has > happened over like the last two or three months. > > Just sayin' > > Smiles, > > Cara :) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0
Hi, Wow! Sounds like a neat little app. Now, if only I had an iPhone I'd give it a try. :D Cheers! On 11/16/13, Draconis wrote: > Greetings gamers, > > We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of our first > application for iOS! > > DoItWrite is an educational tool and game to teach visually impaired users > of iOS 7's VoiceOver screen reader how to draw printed letters and numbers > for use with VoiceOver's handwriting feature in iOS 7. > > Learn to draw lowercase letters, uppercase letters;;, and numbers for use > with iOS 7's VoiceOver handwriting feature! > > This app is primarily intended for the blind or visually impaired, teachers > or instructors of same, and other users of iOS 7's VoiceOver screen reader. > > Many blind or visually impaired people are not familiar with the shapes of > printed letters or numbers. DoItWrite teaches you how to draw them in a > simple way that has the best chance of being correctly recognized by > VoiceOver, even if you have never learned the shapes of the characters > previously. Once you get them down, practice your speed and accuracy with a > fun game to blast characters as they tumble down the screen! > > * Learn how to activate the VoiceOver handwriting feature in iOS 7 > * Learn how to draw lowercase and uppercase letters, as well as numbers in a > simple and accurate way. > * Practice your newly acquired skills by blasting letters and numbers as > they tumble down the screen. > * Use the app to improve your onscreen typing skills by using the keyboard > during game play. > * Automatic feedback and coach via audio queues and speech output. > * DoItWrite automatically detects when VoiceOver is not running, and permits > the tutorial to be browsed with the onscreen keyboard. Great for sighted > teachers and tutors! > * Share your game scores with others. > * Many ways to customize your learning experience. > > DoItWrite is available on the iOS App Store for $1.99 USD. (Prices will vary > for your local currency.) > > http://appstore.com/doitwrite > > For more information, visit us online at > http://DracoEnt.com > > Happy gaming. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0
Greetings gamers, We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of our first application for iOS! DoItWrite is an educational tool and game to teach visually impaired users of iOS 7's VoiceOver screen reader how to draw printed letters and numbers for use with VoiceOver's handwriting feature in iOS 7. Learn to draw lowercase letters, uppercase letters;;, and numbers for use with iOS 7's VoiceOver handwriting feature! This app is primarily intended for the blind or visually impaired, teachers or instructors of same, and other users of iOS 7's VoiceOver screen reader. Many blind or visually impaired people are not familiar with the shapes of printed letters or numbers. DoItWrite teaches you how to draw them in a simple way that has the best chance of being correctly recognized by VoiceOver, even if you have never learned the shapes of the characters previously. Once you get them down, practice your speed and accuracy with a fun game to blast characters as they tumble down the screen! * Learn how to activate the VoiceOver handwriting feature in iOS 7 * Learn how to draw lowercase and uppercase letters, as well as numbers in a simple and accurate way. * Practice your newly acquired skills by blasting letters and numbers as they tumble down the screen. * Use the app to improve your onscreen typing skills by using the keyboard during game play. * Automatic feedback and coach via audio queues and speech output. * DoItWrite automatically detects when VoiceOver is not running, and permits the tutorial to be browsed with the onscreen keyboard. Great for sighted teachers and tutors! * Share your game scores with others. * Many ways to customize your learning experience. DoItWrite is available on the iOS App Store for $1.99 USD. (Prices will vary for your local currency.) http://appstore.com/doitwrite For more information, visit us online at http://DracoEnt.com Happy gaming. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Ah. Darn these screen readers, anyway. Go ahead and flitter. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Actually he used it, or at least the shortened version. That wasn't fed, that was F ed. *flitters back up to her perch* Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Nov 16, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: Fed??? I was thinking of a different word, and I'll bet you know what it it. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Charles, At this point it doesn't make much difference which you want to call it. However, fubar is about right. The word fubar is an acronym for f'ed up beyond all recognition. That sums up the situation nicely. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Charles Rivard wrote: Is it fubar?, or is it snafu. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Actually he used it, or at least the shortened version. That wasn't fed, that was F ed. *flitters back up to her perch* Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Nov 16, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: Fed??? I was thinking of a different word, and I'll bet you know what it it. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message > Hi Charles, > > At this point it doesn't make much difference which you want to call > it. However, fubar is about right. The word fubar is an acronym for > f'ed up beyond all recognition. That sums up the situation nicely. > > Cheers! > > On 11/15/13, Charles Rivard wrote: >> Is it fubar?, or is it snafu. >> >> --- >> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, >> >> you! really! are! finished! > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Thomas, Not sure how long ago you used G Groups, but this last round of changes has happened over like the last two or three months. Just sayin' Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Nov 16, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Cara, Yeah, I know. I used Google Groups a while back, and their list management interface was pretty poor accessibility wise. I could do it, but nowhere as accessible or straight forward as Mailman is. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Cara Quinn wrote: > Hi again, Thomas, > > Just to clarify, I am talking about the GoogleGroups interface for managing > groups, not the member interface. > > The management experience at this point is just awful from a blindness > perspective. > > Thanks, > > Cara :) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi oh I agree. I manage lists for an organisation I volunteer for and Google groups are not as easy as it use to be. The audio word verification things are not very good and I got a head ake trying to use them. My view is that, if needs be, if you delete the list and re-create it, that might be the easiest thing as we need to make sure that you are not swamped with this work. I know how time consuming it is putting people on to lists and I don't want you to be having to spend too much time with this. Amanda -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:35 PM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Cara, Yeah, I know. I used Google Groups a while back, and their list management interface was pretty poor accessibility wise. I could do it, but nowhere as accessible or straight forward as Mailman is. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Cara Quinn wrote: Hi again, Thomas, Just to clarify, I am talking about the GoogleGroups interface for managing groups, not the member interface. The management experience at this point is just awful from a blindness perspective. Thanks, Cara :) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Fed??? I was thinking of a different word, and I'll bet you know what it it. (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Charles, At this point it doesn't make much difference which you want to call it. However, fubar is about right. The word fubar is an acronym for f'ed up beyond all recognition. That sums up the situation nicely. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Charles Rivard wrote: Is it fubar?, or is it snafu. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
A Gremlin is also a small car made by Chevrolet. (another grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Shaun, Lol! Wrong kind of gremlin. Here in America whenever something goes wrong with a piece of equipment, software fails, mechanical failure, etc we jokingly blame the problem on a gremlin which is not the same thing as the gremlins in the gremlins movie. Gremlins according to folk tales are actually suppose to be a race of magical beings, kind of like nasty elves, that go around causing trouble for humans by breaking things or pulling pranks on people. The gremlins in the gremlins movie were ugly little monsters created when Billy fed the little Mugwas after midnight which isn't quite the same thing as gremlins in the folk tale sense. Cheers! On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: Well catch it and stick it in the microwave if you have seen the gremlin 1 and 2 films you will know what I am talking about. hmm also I think the film mentioned not feading it after mightnight. Dark have you being feeding the gremlin again or something --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
This sounds definitely like something to try before switching things over to another service. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Nov 16, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Shaun, > > That is of course one possibility. Worst case we will delete the > Audyssey account and start over from scratch in the hopes that we get > a fresh setup because the issue isn't the server or the software > itself. We are running on the assumption that when transferring the > Audyssey CPanel configuration from Raul's host to mine something got > messed up in the move. Now we are trying to find out what went wrong > and if we can't we need to just nuke the account and start over fresh. > > However, doing so is nowhere as bad as you make it sound. I won't have > to reinstall any software because it isn't the software that is messed > up. The list membership wont have to resubscribe because I can export > the list of members to a text file and import it making it a breeze to > simply resubscribe everyone at once. Point being deleting the account > and recreating the account is no big deal. Slightly time consuming but > not anything that will effect most list members other than the fact > the list will be down for a few hours. > > Cheers! > > > On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: >> the web portal of googlegroups is not accessable at all for the >> blind to handle the new systems google uses really have not sat well >> with me and don't get me started on yahoo. >> there is freelists but unsubscribe and format and other such things >> are interpreted as list commands and the system will then send you an >> error. >> is there any way to simply delete the entire database and restart from >> scratch? >> it will mean ofcause you may need to reinstall everything and every >> user would have to resubscribe but who knows. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Shaun, That is of course one possibility. Worst case we will delete the Audyssey account and start over from scratch in the hopes that we get a fresh setup because the issue isn't the server or the software itself. We are running on the assumption that when transferring the Audyssey CPanel configuration from Raul's host to mine something got messed up in the move. Now we are trying to find out what went wrong and if we can't we need to just nuke the account and start over fresh. However, doing so is nowhere as bad as you make it sound. I won't have to reinstall any software because it isn't the software that is messed up. The list membership wont have to resubscribe because I can export the list of members to a text file and import it making it a breeze to simply resubscribe everyone at once. Point being deleting the account and recreating the account is no big deal. Slightly time consuming but not anything that will effect most list members other than the fact the list will be down for a few hours. Cheers! On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: > the web portal of googlegroups is not accessable at all for the > blind to handle the new systems google uses really have not sat well > with me and don't get me started on yahoo. > there is freelists but unsubscribe and format and other such things > are interpreted as list commands and the system will then send you an > error. > is there any way to simply delete the entire database and restart from > scratch? > it will mean ofcause you may need to reinstall everything and every > user would have to resubscribe but who knows. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Here all this time I thought FUBAR had different words. *l* On 16-Nov-2013 12:12 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Charles, At this point it doesn't make much difference which you want to call it. However, fubar is about right. The word fubar is an acronym for f'ed up beyond all recognition. That sums up the situation nicely. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Charles, At this point it doesn't make much difference which you want to call it. However, fubar is about right. The word fubar is an acronym for f'ed up beyond all recognition. That sums up the situation nicely. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Is it fubar?, or is it snafu. > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, > > you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Shaun, Lol! Wrong kind of gremlin. Here in America whenever something goes wrong with a piece of equipment, software fails, mechanical failure, etc we jokingly blame the problem on a gremlin which is not the same thing as the gremlins in the gremlins movie. Gremlins according to folk tales are actually suppose to be a race of magical beings, kind of like nasty elves, that go around causing trouble for humans by breaking things or pulling pranks on people. The gremlins in the gremlins movie were ugly little monsters created when Billy fed the little Mugwas after midnight which isn't quite the same thing as gremlins in the folk tale sense. Cheers! On 11/15/13, shaun everiss wrote: > Well catch it and stick it in the microwave > if you have seen the gremlin 1 and 2 films you will know what I am > talking about. > hmm also I think the film mentioned not feading it after mightnight. > Dark have you being feeding the gremlin again or something > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Dark, Well, your opinion seems to be widely supported by many list members so no matter what we will be keeping this list for a good long time. I'm not exactly certain who will be hosting this list, but I can say for certain we won't be moving to a forum as many list members are flat out against that idea. Plus as you yourself pointed out Audiogames.net already has a forum and there is no need to have two forums of the same kind. We should try to keep this list running if for no other reason to offer people an alternative to the web forums popping up everywhere. Cheers! On 11/15/13, dark wrote: > Hi Tom. > > I'm afraid I'd not be in favour of an audeasy forum, simply because there > already is! an accessible games forum, and frankly I would have too much > business checking two forums, also it'd make it quite difficult for > developers and others to communicate on both systems. > > I'd personally suggest setting up a google groups list, since google groups > > are fairly reliable, and you'd still get the bennifits of running a mailing > > list, particularly having an alternative to audiogames.net for those people > > who don't enjoy forums. > > I've had experience with google groups myself over the entombed list, and I > > can say they work reliably so long as moderator in put continues and the > list doesn't get abandoned. > > All the best, > dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Kelly, definitely agree. I'm against Yahoo Groups on grounds of accessibility. Accessibility was one of the main reasons why Raul and I moved the list away from there, but we also got sick and tired of the spam and other garbage that went with Yahoo. So as far as I'm concerned Yahoo Groups is a definite no go. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Kelly Sapergia wrote: > Hi, > > I would prefer to have a mailing list rather than a forum, but I wouldn't go > > with Yahoo Groups anymore as the site has become hard to use ever since they > > switched to a different CMS or something. Lots of sighted people are also > complaining about it from what I read. I wonder if Freelists might be a > better option? > > Thanks. > > Yours Sincerely, > Kelly John Sapergia > Show Host and Production Director > The Global Voice Internet Radio > www.theglobalvoice.info > > Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net > Business Website (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi Nicol, I suppose Freelists.org might be a possibility, but I'm waiting to hear back from the server admins before I make any final decisions as to what to do with the list. The one thing I will say is wherever we take the list has to be able to handle the list traffic. This is a moderately active list with many messages per day and some of those free list services aren't able to keep up with heavy list traffic. So I need to check that out before making a final decision. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Nicol wrote: > Hi tom > I personally prefer a mailing list. > How about freelists.org? > I find them very accessible. > I am subscribed to the blind tech list at freelists.org. > I can easily change options such as digest and mail delivery and I don't > need a password to change options. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Cara, Yeah, I know. I used Google Groups a while back, and their list management interface was pretty poor accessibility wise. I could do it, but nowhere as accessible or straight forward as Mailman is. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Cara Quinn wrote: > Hi again, Thomas, > > Just to clarify, I am talking about the GoogleGroups interface for managing > groups, not the member interface. > > The management experience at this point is just awful from a blindness > perspective. > > Thanks, > > Cara :) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Sly, That was my concern as well. Personally I like forums, but as there is already a gaming forum we don't really need a second one. Thus I was interested to know how many members was in favor of keeping the list all be it from a different server/host. Cheers! On 11/15/13, sylvester thomas III wrote: > Greetings Thomas! > I too would prefere a mailing list to a forum. > If I want to read a forum I would just go to audiogames.net, no need > for 2 blind gameing forums. > > Sly's 2 cents --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] My thoughts on Papa Sangre II, No Spoilers
Hi, all, I just want to gush about this game. I think it and the other games by Something else are several notches above most other IOS games I’ve played. I actually think Papa sangre II is better than the first one. It is even more immersive and has more plot twists. I know for sure I’ll be revisiting some of my favorite levels. The acting was superb as well. The only down-side was some sluggishness on my iPod Touch 5. I realize the game isn’t optimized for iPod, but I can play it perfectly well. I’m very much looking forward to similar games by these folks, or some contingent of them in any case. Very very nice, superlative job. Teresa --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.