Re: [Audyssey] Lworks discontinuing sales of legacy games
The actual details of making Alter Aeon accessible were much easier than for most projects, because the game server itself is purely text based and already had low spam modes. Most of the accessibility changes were additional filtering, special commands to display single pieces of information instead of an entire screen, and a dedicated blind mode that changed how certain things were displayed. None of these took a huge amount of time alone, but there were a lot of them. As for why I originally did it, I thought it was amazing that the blind were playing the game, and I was bored, and I liked the person who asked. I keep doing it now because most of our players are blind and we have a solid community built up on the server. I consider the blind/VI crowd to be my largest target audience. As I mentioned above, keep in mind that Alter Aeon had a lot going for it right from the start: the server was purely text based, we had spam filters for other reasons, and our blind community started Mush-Z on their own. Most mainstream games will have zero of these things, and it'll be a LOT more work (if not impossible) to convince developers to support the blind. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Steven Cantos earge...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr. developer of the Alteraeon Mud, You managed to actually make your game accessible. What did it take and why did you decide to do it? In writing this question, I am assuming that you are sighted and are merely sympathetic to the blind. Signed, Steven --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Moderator: Let's Get Things Back On Topic
Hi all, Please, let's get things back on topic. This list is primarily for the discussion of accessible games, and I've noticed for the last few days things have been slipping into more generalized discussion like backing up data and other general computer questions. So let's please steer the discussion back to games. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Moderator: Please Remember to Change Subject Lines
Hi all, Here is a friendly reminder to please make sure the subject line and the message contents of your post matches. I've noticed recently people are beginning to slip on this very basic list rule, and I might open a message about L-Works to read something about Alter Aeon. So please remember to change the subject line if the topic of the thread changes. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] regarding MTG studios.
Hi Ishan, As I understand it they had issues with there internet domain registration, and were forced to close the old site. However, they have a new one called Soundworks or something like that. As far as their old games I believe they are on the new Soundworks website for download. As to what they plan to do with them I don't know, but they aren't completely gone. On 9/10/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all I have questions regarding MTG studios. 1 why they close there company and what they are doing with their products? 2 how can a person can reach to them? Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] how to be an audio game programmer.
I am a young man and I have very intresting concepts first I will start with free games for windows then I will develop my own site like every developer and sell my best audio games. I will work every type of games like FPS and side scroller and horrer adventure games. I agreed with you MR josh but I don't know how to write a script. if you know the website or an online lesson which will guide me a little bit then I will start. because my brain is very sharp so I'm confident that I can learn easily. Please help me sir Thanks Hope you'll help me Ishan On 9/10/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, The BGT toolkit isn't the only option. Let's give Ishan more options than BGT. I have the greatest respect for BGT, but would like to remind people it isn't the one and only choice out there. Cheers! On 9/10/14, Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: get the free bgt blind game maker toolkit. its free from blastbay studios. signature not available. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] how to be an audio game programmer.
Hi Ishan, That's a start, but I think we need a little more information than that. There are a number of technologies that may be used in games and it would be helpful to be thinking about these things in advance. 1. What type of speech output do you plan to use. Are you going to rely on text to speech systems like Microsoft Sapi, direct screen reader support, or do you intend to create your own speech output using wav files? 2. Do you plan to use virtual 3d audio, 2d stereo panning, and/or special DSP effects? 3. Do you plan on creating network games or single player games? The reason I raise all of these questions is that it is very important to figure out what you want to do and then decide upon a language and what technology will eventually meet your needs. For example, BGT has Sapi and screen reader support, has network support, but no virtual 3d audio. If virtual 3d audio was a big part of your long term plans then clearly BGT wouldn't exactly be the proper choice. Although, in a lot of ways it is a decent place to begin for most things. However, the thing you need to get straight here and now is there are not any websites that tells you how to create an audio game from scratch. You are looking for something that doesn't really exist. There are plenty of game programming websites, but they are primarily for mainstream programmers and one has to be astute and adept enough into translating that into an audio game of some kind. I do think such a project is worthwhile and maybe I can be talked into writing a course, but I really need to figure out where to start with such a course because not every language is right for everyone. Cheers! On 9/10/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: I am a young man and I have very intresting concepts first I will start with free games for windows then I will develop my own site like every developer and sell my best audio games. I will work every type of games like FPS and side scroller and horrer adventure games. I agreed with you MR josh but I don't know how to write a script. if you know the website or an online lesson which will guide me a little bit then I will start. because my brain is very sharp so I'm confident that I can learn easily. Please help me sir Thanks Hope you'll help me Ishan On 9/10/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, The BGT toolkit isn't the only option. Let's give Ishan more options than BGT. I have the greatest respect for BGT, but would like to remind people it isn't the one and only choice out there. Cheers! On 9/10/14, Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: get the free bgt blind game maker toolkit. its free from blastbay studios. signature not available. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] how to be an audio game programmer.
And pardon me for saying this, but you need to be able to write in english with correct gramar. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] how to be an audio game programmer. Hi Ishan, That's a start, but I think we need a little more information than that. There are a number of technologies that may be used in games and it would be helpful to be thinking about these things in advance. 1. What type of speech output do you plan to use. Are you going to rely on text to speech systems like Microsoft Sapi, direct screen reader support, or do you intend to create your own speech output using wav files? 2. Do you plan to use virtual 3d audio, 2d stereo panning, and/or special DSP effects? 3. Do you plan on creating network games or single player games? The reason I raise all of these questions is that it is very important to figure out what you want to do and then decide upon a language and what technology will eventually meet your needs. For example, BGT has Sapi and screen reader support, has network support, but no virtual 3d audio. If virtual 3d audio was a big part of your long term plans then clearly BGT wouldn't exactly be the proper choice. Although, in a lot of ways it is a decent place to begin for most things. However, the thing you need to get straight here and now is there are not any websites that tells you how to create an audio game from scratch. You are looking for something that doesn't really exist. There are plenty of game programming websites, but they are primarily for mainstream programmers and one has to be astute and adept enough into translating that into an audio game of some kind. I do think such a project is worthwhile and maybe I can be talked into writing a course, but I really need to figure out where to start with such a course because not every language is right for everyone. Cheers! On 9/10/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: I am a young man and I have very intresting concepts first I will start with free games for windows then I will develop my own site like every developer and sell my best audio games. I will work every type of games like FPS and side scroller and horrer adventure games. I agreed with you MR josh but I don't know how to write a script. if you know the website or an online lesson which will guide me a little bit then I will start. because my brain is very sharp so I'm confident that I can learn easily. Please help me sir Thanks Hope you'll help me Ishan On 9/10/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, The BGT toolkit isn't the only option. Let's give Ishan more options than BGT. I have the greatest respect for BGT, but would like to remind people it isn't the one and only choice out there. Cheers! On 9/10/14, Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: get the free bgt blind game maker toolkit. its free from blastbay studios. signature not available. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] how to be an audio game programmer.
I don't know programming but I can look at code and get a good idea of what it is doing. and I would say start out with bgt. it'll let you make games quickly, scripting-wise, free, paid, and so on, for windows. signature not available. ishan dhami wrote: I am a young man and I have very intresting concepts first I will start with free games for windows then I will develop my own site like every developer and sell my best audio games. I will work every type of games like FPS and side scroller and horrer adventure games. I agreed with you MR josh but I don't know how to write a script. if you know the website or an online lesson which will guide me a little bit then I will start. because my brain is very sharp so I'm confident that I can learn easily. Please help me sir Thanks Hope you'll help me Ishan On 9/10/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, The BGT toolkit isn't the only option. Let's give Ishan more options than BGT. I have the greatest respect for BGT, but would like to remind people it isn't the one and only choice out there. Cheers! On 9/10/14, Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: get the free bgt blind game maker toolkit. its free from blastbay studios. signature not available. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator: Please Remember to Change Subject Lines
Another reason to change the subject line is that you might delete something based on a subject line you're not interested in, only to find out later that the content was something you were interested in. Some of us get hundreds of Emails each day, and the subject line is a time saver. Delete what you're not interested in, then read the remainder. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:28 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Moderator: Please Remember to Change Subject Lines Hi all, Here is a friendly reminder to please make sure the subject line and the message contents of your post matches. I've noticed recently people are beginning to slip on this very basic list rule, and I might open a message about L-Works to read something about Alter Aeon. So please remember to change the subject line if the topic of the thread changes. Sincerely, Thomas Ward Owner-Moderator of the Audyssey Mailing List gamers-ow...@audyssey.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] how to be an audio game programmer.
Hi Lisa, That's for sure. If Ishan intends to create games for the VI community, many of whom speak English, he is going to have to make some improvements to his own English language skills. Otherwise people may have a tough time understanding what the game is trying to communicate to them. Cheers! On 9/11/14, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: And pardon me for saying this, but you need to be able to write in english with correct gramar. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] how to be an audio game programmer.
While it would be much easier in well-constructed English, I must admit that it is possible. Right now I am starting stage 6 of BK3, and none of that game has been translated at all. And let's be honest, the NVDA translations are abysmal in most cases, and in many instances make no sense at all, either contextually or grammatically. So it is not impossible, smile. Jody --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] beatwave app
Hi guys, I’m sorry this isn’t strictly game related, but I just wondered if anyone uses the beatwave app for the iphone? It allows you to make your own music tracks using sounds and different instriments by tapping the screen, but I’m trying to find out if it’s blind-friendly or not. So far, there are a lot of unlabled buttons, but i can’t figure out how to make them bring up menus and so on. A friend sent me the link, saying he knew of a blind person who used it, but I’m wondering if the person perhaps has some useful vision. I just thought someone on here might have heard of beatwave, and if so, would perhaps have some tips for me on using it Many thanks, from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] microsoft changes - Re: Fwd: LWorks discontinuingsales of Legacy games
Hi Jody, Another problem is that we are such a small demographic in the scheme of things. There is legislation that demands that any government web site etc is accessible, but that does not at this time include games. We are just not a large enough target for main stream game developers to spend money to make the games accessible. BFN Jim Check my web site for my 35 free games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for August 2014
Hi Ishan, Thanks, I'm glad that you enjoyed the list reports. BFN Jim The Bureau of Incomplete Statistics reports that one out of three j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for August 2014
Hi Christina, Sorry that the reports were so late this month. Like Thomas always says, sometimes life just gets in the way. And it did for me last week. Have a good one. BFN Jim We all love to spend lots of money buying new clothes but we never realize that the best moments in life are enjoyed without clothes. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Can you develop audiogames with Python?
Dear gamers, I am interesting in learning the programming language called Python, however, I want to make sure whether it is useful in creating audiogames? Signed, Steven --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] how to be an audio game programmer.
Well, I'd seriously love more network-capable games. On 9/11/2014 5:29 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Ishan, That's a start, but I think we need a little more information than that. There are a number of technologies that may be used in games and it would be helpful to be thinking about these things in advance. 1. What type of speech output do you plan to use. Are you going to rely on text to speech systems like Microsoft Sapi, direct screen reader support, or do you intend to create your own speech output using wav files? 2. Do you plan to use virtual 3d audio, 2d stereo panning, and/or special DSP effects? 3. Do you plan on creating network games or single player games? The reason I raise all of these questions is that it is very important to figure out what you want to do and then decide upon a language and what technology will eventually meet your needs. For example, BGT has Sapi and screen reader support, has network support, but no virtual 3d audio. If virtual 3d audio was a big part of your long term plans then clearly BGT wouldn't exactly be the proper choice. Although, in a lot of ways it is a decent place to begin for most things. However, the thing you need to get straight here and now is there are not any websites that tells you how to create an audio game from scratch. You are looking for something that doesn't really exist. There are plenty of game programming websites, but they are primarily for mainstream programmers and one has to be astute and adept enough into translating that into an audio game of some kind. I do think such a project is worthwhile and maybe I can be talked into writing a course, but I really need to figure out where to start with such a course because not every language is right for everyone. Cheers! On 9/10/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: I am a young man and I have very intresting concepts first I will start with free games for windows then I will develop my own site like every developer and sell my best audio games. I will work every type of games like FPS and side scroller and horrer adventure games. I agreed with you MR josh but I don't know how to write a script. if you know the website or an online lesson which will guide me a little bit then I will start. because my brain is very sharp so I'm confident that I can learn easily. Please help me sir Thanks Hope you'll help me Ishan On 9/10/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, The BGT toolkit isn't the only option. Let's give Ishan more options than BGT. I have the greatest respect for BGT, but would like to remind people it isn't the one and only choice out there. Cheers! On 9/10/14, Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: get the free bgt blind game maker toolkit. its free from blastbay studios. signature not available. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.