Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[john]

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source they're a 
danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open source: 
7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
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From: "Charles Rivard" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 19:29
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be more
work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger than
the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and different
operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of
iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything 7.0 or
higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able to use
the software.

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From: "Jason Milyo" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out


> Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
> android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
> source.
>
> On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:
>> please make this game for android also. thanks.
>>
>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
>>
>> On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:
>>> Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on your
>>> ios
>>> device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially outJ.
>>> Below is description from IOS app store
>>>
>>>
>>> Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar to
>>> the
>>> arcade game Air Hockey.
>>>
>>> In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a puck
>>> on
>>> the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your finger.
>>> The
>>> puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to you,
>>> bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block his
>>> shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7
>>> goals
>>> wins the game.
>>>
>>> Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you,
>>> and
>>> you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the
>>> puck
>>> is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck
>>> aim at
>>> your opponent's goal.
>>>
>>> Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
>>> opponents
>>> - varying from beginner to expert.
>>>
>>> Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
>>> Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.
>>>
>>> The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more coins,
>>> you
>>> can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app
>>> upgrade.
>>>
>>> 
>>> ...More
>>>
>>>    Blindfold Air Hockey Support
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email
>>>
>>> ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Josh K]

if open source is so dangerous then why is linux mint and ubuntu so very 
popular, not to mention android phones are way way way more popular and 
are vastly outselling the iPhones? I have a mix of open source and 
proprietary stuff in my house, a 4th gen apple tv, android phone, 
windows10 laptop, and my cable box is a mix of open source software and 
some proprietary stuff. yes even comcast cable uses open source stuff in 
its talking set top boxes. and i also have a ubuntu 14.04 dvd disk 
around here in case I need it.


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On 11/20/2015 7:26 AM, john wrote:

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source they're a
danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open source:
7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
--
From: "Charles Rivard" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 19:29
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be more
work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger than
the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and different
operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of
iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything 7.0 or
higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able to use
the software.

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you! really! are! finished!
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From: "Jason Milyo" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
source.

On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:

please make this game for android also. thanks.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:

Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on your
ios
device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar to
the
arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a puck
on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your finger.
The
puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to you,
bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7
goals
wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you,
and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the
puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck
aim at
your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
opponents
- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more coins,
you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app
upgrade.


...More

    Blindfold Air Hockey Support



Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com


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[Audyssey] the swamp game

[corey overton]

Hi I got the swamp game downloaded but what ever program I try to open it 
weather using jzip or windows explorerthe files won’t open any sugjestions? 
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Re: [Audyssey] the swamp game

[john]

As I said - if you want to use that link you will need to use a download 
manager. If you don't have one, go to audiogames.net and grab a download 
link from dropbox.

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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 8:59
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Hi I got the swamp game downloaded but what ever program I try to open it 
weather using jzip or windows explorerthe files won’t open any sugjestions?
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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Charles Rivard]

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that 
the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.


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From: "john" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out


I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source they're 
a
danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open 
source:

7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
--
From: "Charles Rivard" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 19:29
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be 
more

work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger than
the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and 
different

operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of
iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything 7.0 
or
higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able to 
use

the software.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
finished,

you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Milyo" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
source.

On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:

please make this game for android also. thanks.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:
Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on 
your

ios
device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar 
to

the
arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a 
puck

on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your finger.
The
puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to 
you,

bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7
goals
wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you,
and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the
puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck
aim at
your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
opponents
- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more 
coins,

you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app
upgrade.


...More

   Blindfold Air Hockey Support



Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com


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[Audyssey] devices sold - Re: blindfold airhockey is now out

[Charles Rivard]

The reason that there are more Android devices sold is because there are so 
many different Android devices on the market compared to iDevices.  Take any 
single model and make of Android phone and compare the sales to an iDevice, 
and the Android will be blown out of the water.  A huge number of people buy 
Androids based on price, too, and they get what they pay for.  Some Android 
models even have problems of having been hacked, or already containing a 
virus when they are bought.  But they didn't cost much, either.  Check past 
episodes of a podcast named tii, which stands for Today In iPhone for 
detailed information.


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From: "Josh K" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out


if open source is so dangerous then why is linux mint and ubuntu so very 
popular, not to mention android phones are way way way more popular and 
are vastly outselling the iPhones? I have a mix of open source and 
proprietary stuff in my house, a 4th gen apple tv, android phone, 
windows10 laptop, and my cable box is a mix of open source software and 
some proprietary stuff. yes even comcast cable uses open source stuff in 
its talking set top boxes. and i also have a ubuntu 14.04 dvd disk around 
here in case I need it.


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/20/2015 7:26 AM, john wrote:
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source they're 
a
danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open 
source:

7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
--
From: "Charles Rivard" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 19:29
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be 
more
work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger 
than
the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and 
different

operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of
iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything 7.0 
or
higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able to 
use

the software.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
finished,

you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message -
From: "Jason Milyo" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
source.

On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:

please make this game for android also. thanks.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:
Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on 
your

ios
device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially 
outJ.

Below is description from IOS app store


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar 
to

the
arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a 
puck

on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your 
finger.

The
puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to 
you,
bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block 
his

shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7
goals
wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you,
and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the
puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck
aim at
your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
opponents
- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more 
coins,

you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app
upgrade.


...More

    Blindfold Air Hockey Support



Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com


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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Danielle Ledet]

Why is open source dangerous? Because there is lots of hacking going
on that is why? Oh and why are the games called Blindfold this and
Blindfold That (insert name)?

On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard  wrote:
> Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
> the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.
>
> ---
> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,
>
> you! really! are! finished!
> - Original Message -
> From: "john" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 6:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>
>
>> I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source they're
>>
>> a
>> danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open
>> source:
>> 7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
>> --
>> From: "Charles Rivard" 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 19:29
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>>
>> The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be
>> more
>> work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger
>> than
>> the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and
>> different
>> operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of
>> iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything 7.0
>>
>> or
>> higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able to
>> use
>> the software.
>>
>> ---
>> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
>> finished,
>> you! really! are! finished!
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jason Milyo" 
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>>
>>
>>> Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
>>> android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
>>> source.
>>>
>>> On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:
 please make this game for android also. thanks.

 follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

 On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:
> Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on
> your
> ios
> device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially
> outJ.
> Below is description from IOS app store
>
>
> Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar
> to
> the
> arcade game Air Hockey.
>
> In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a
> puck
> on
> the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your
> finger.
> The
> puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to
> you,
> bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block
> his
> shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7
> goals
> wins the game.
>
> Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you,
> and
> you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the
> puck
> is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck
> aim at
> your opponent's goal.
>
> Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
> opponents
> - varying from beginner to expert.
>
> Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
> Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.
>
> The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more
> coins,
> you
> can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app
> upgrade.
>
> 
> ...More
>
>    Blindfold Air Hockey Support
>
>
>
> Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email
>
> ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com
>
>
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[Audyssey] blindfold tile puzzle is out for IOS

[joseph weakland]

Greetings all IOS users out there. I am letting you know that the game
blindfold tile puzzle has been released from kidfriendly software. Below is
description of app.

 

Description of App: 

 

 

 

Description 

 

Blindfold Tile Puzzle is a fully accessible tile game that includes the
popular games 2048 and Threes for both sighted and visually impaired people,
designed for rapid audio play. 

 

Blindfold Tile Puzzle includes the 2048 game, and several variants where you
move tiles, and when two tiles touch with the same number, they merge into
one tile that's the sum of the two tiles. For example, 2 merging with 2
becomes 4, 4 with 4 becomes 8, and so on. You win when you get at least one
tile to 2048.

 

Blindfold Tile Puzzle also includes the Threes game, where you move tiles
and if the two tiles add up to a multiple of 3, they merge into one tile,
that's the sum of the two tiles. For example, 2 merging with 1 becomes 3, 3
merging with 3 becomes 6, 6 merging with 12 becomes 18. Each merged tile is
added to your score, and each time you play, try to best your previous best
score.

 

Several other variants are included, such as 2048 unlimited, and Alphabet.
You can customize the game to your liking: how much extra information is
spoken and how quickly it is spoken.

 

Blindfold Tile Puzzle was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Sudoku and Blindfold Dominos.

 

 

To find it you can look for

Blindfold 2048 for key words or

Kidfriendly software inc

In appstore search.

Have fun.

If you have queries of any kind email

ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com

 

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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[john]

No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less 
so.
Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be 
able to exploit them.
On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that 
modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official source. 
Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and 
then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code, but 
that's about as far as it can go.
A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption 
software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations, governments 
and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True 
crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security, you 
used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is that 
it was audited by independent security professionals, something which isn't 
possible without seeing the code.
Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as secure 
as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and, 
more importantly, how well the code's written.

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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Bryan Peterson]

I just had the same thought this morning.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: Danielle Ledet

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 1:01 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Why is open source dangerous? Because there is lots of hacking going
on that is why? Oh and why are the games called Blindfold this and
Blindfold That (insert name)?

On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard  wrote:

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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- Original Message -
From: "john" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source they're

a
danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open
source:
7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 19:29
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be
more
work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger
than
the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and
different
operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of
iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything 7.0

or
higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able to
use
the software.

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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
source.

On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:

please make this game for android also. thanks.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:

Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on
your
ios
device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially
outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's similar
to
the
arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a
puck
on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your
finger.
The
puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to
you,
bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block
his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7
goals
wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you,
and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the
puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck
aim at
your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
opponents
- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more
coins,
you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app
upgrade.


...More

   Blindfold Air Hockey Support



Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

ma...@kidfriendlysoftware.com


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Re: [Audyssey] Fw: New audiogame: Space Encounter available for PCand Mac!

[Danielle Ledet]

See I'm always hesitant to buy games in foreign currency cuz I don't
know what that translates to in US dollars. Sounds good though and def
something I would play.


On 11/20/15, dark  wrote:
> Hi Simon.
>
> As I said, I think the extra rewards aren't so much a sale as a kickstarter
> style "donate to us for a bit of random rewards" rather than an attempt to
> actually sell specific upgrades to the game, indeed I suspect they're as
> expensive as they are sinse I imagine once you've created a ship or campaign
> name or whatever it'll go into the game for a future version for everyone to
> try, and thus will need recording by their voice artist.
>
> If you don't want to donate and just want to buy the game, that is fine.
>
> All the best,
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message -
> From: "goshawk on horseback" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fw: New audiogame: Space Encounter available for
> PCand Mac!
>
>
>>I definitely won't be spending that much on it. for the comparatively small
>> extras of being able to customize a name or 2, I personally don't think
>> that
>> the extra outlay is worth it. now if one could for example customize your
>> ship's features, get access to more and/or better weapons, better sensors,
>> faster engines and such, and/or unlock more or different missions, those
>> would be the sorts of things that I for one would seriously think about
>> forking out extra for.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Appleman" 
>> To: "goshawk on horseback" ; "Gamers
>> Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 7:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fw: New audiogame: Space Encounter available for
>> PC
>> and Mac!
>>
>>
>> Hi Simon,
>> I will be downloading this one as well. However, I'm very reluctant to
>> spend
>> over €200 on an audio game. I don't know what this comes to in Australian
>> dollars but if it means getting your name the credits for purchasing the
>> gold edition, it's something to think about. This is one of my favourite
>> game genres.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 20 Nov 2015, at 4:18 AM, goshawk on horseback
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> just received the below, will definitely be getting this one.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: IV Productions
>>> To: goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:45 PM
>>> Subject: New audiogame: Space Encounter available for PC and Mac!
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> here we are with some news we hope you'll find juicy...
>>>
>>> We are introducing a new audiogame, it's called "Space Encounter", a
>>> space-based shoot'em up.
>>>
>>> It is available in its First Open Edition, first edition ever being
>>> published for PC and Mac. There are different purchasing options, each
>>> one
>>> has different a different price, starting at 19,90€.
>>>
>>> Full speed ahead then and, if you can, support us choosing the Bronze
>>> Medal, the Silver Medal or the Gold Medal. We are a small, private
>>> company, no subsidies, and we need you and your purchases to be able to
>>> continue produce more and better audiogames.
>>>
>>> Buy Space Encounter - First Open Edition - 19,90€:
>>> http://www.ticonblu.it/audiogame/shop/shop_spaceencounter_final_eng.html?lang=eng
>>>
>>>
>>> Buy Space Encounter - First Open Edition - Bronze Medal - 49,90€:
>>> http://www.ticonblu.it/audiogame/shop/shop_spaceencounter_bronze_eng.html?lang=eng
>>>
>>> Includes: one ship named as you like.
>>> Buy Space Encounter - First Open Edition - Silver Medal - 99,90€:
>>> http://www.ticonblu.it/audiogame/shop/shop_spaceencounter_silver_eng.html?lang=eng
>>>
>>>
>>> Includes: one ship plus one campaign named as you like.
>>> Buy Space Encounter - First Open Edition - Gold Medal - 249,90€:
>>> http://www.ticonblu.it/audiogame/shop/shop_spaceencounter_gold_eng.html?lang=eng
>>>
>>> Includes:
>>>  a.. two ships named as you like
>>>
>>>  b.. two campaigns named as you like
>>>
>>>  c.. special mention in the 'Credits' section of the game as Associate
>>> Producer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Join the Space Encounter! Shoot your missiles and exterminate the alien
>>> scum! Win the Total War and become the Supreme Intergalactic Commander!
>>>
>>>
>>> Game Description
>>> Pilot, are you ready to fight the alien oppression with Space Encounter?
>>> During an immersive gaming experience, you'll face many enemy fleets,
>>> coming from all the universe!
>>> Choose your ship and your equipment and dash yourself into the battle!
>>> Shoot first and destroy everithing that's moving.
>>> Test yourself with the Total War fighting all the alien races one by one,
>>> or select  a single campaign to fight in a specific part of the universe,
>>> or  train facing single alien waves.
>>> Start as simple pilot; fight; accumulate points and victory after victory
>>> you'll climb the high intergalactic command's  hierarchy, till you'll
>>> become its supreme  leader!
>>> Welcome to Space Encount

Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Charles Rivard]

You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a piece 
of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I 
could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can 
go."


That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.


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- Original Message - 
From: "john" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less
so.
Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be
able to exploit them.
On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official source.
Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code, 
but

that's about as far as it can go.
A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations, 
governments

and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security, 
you

used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is 
that
it was audited by independent security professionals, something which 
isn't

possible without seeing the code.
Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as 
secure

as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and,
more importantly, how well the code's written.

--
From: "Charles Rivard" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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Re: [Audyssey] Fw: New audiogame: Space Encounter available forPCand Mac!

[dark]

Hi Danielle.

Sinse I often buy things in dollars, (and occasionaly euroes), I can do 
rough convertions from British pounds in my head, but I've just been looking 
around for a currency converter and found something very interesting.
if you type the basic amounts into google, you will be given an instant 
convertion, eg, if you wanted to know what ten us dollars was in pounds 
you'd type 10 usd to gbp.


For example,

19.49 euros = 20.7504 US dollars.

So, there you have it, the basic game costs 20 dollars an70 cents :D.

Hth.

Dark.

- Original Message - 
From: "Danielle Ledet" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fw: New audiogame: Space Encounter available 
forPCand Mac!




See I'm always hesitant to buy games in foreign currency cuz I don't
know what that translates to in US dollars. Sounds good though and def
something I would play.


On 11/20/15, dark  wrote:

Hi Simon.

As I said, I think the extra rewards aren't so much a sale as a 
kickstarter
style "donate to us for a bit of random rewards" rather than an attempt 
to

actually sell specific upgrades to the game, indeed I suspect they're as
expensive as they are sinse I imagine once you've created a ship or 
campaign
name or whatever it'll go into the game for a future version for everyone 
to

try, and thus will need recording by their voice artist.

If you don't want to donate and just want to buy the game, that is fine.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: "goshawk on horseback" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fw: New audiogame: Space Encounter available for
PCand Mac!


I definitely won't be spending that much on it. for the comparatively 
small

extras of being able to customize a name or 2, I personally don't think
that
the extra outlay is worth it. now if one could for example customize 
your
ship's features, get access to more and/or better weapons, better 
sensors,

faster engines and such, and/or unlock more or different missions, those
would be the sorts of things that I for one would seriously think about
forking out extra for.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: "Appleman" 
To: "goshawk on horseback" ; 
"Gamers

Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fw: New audiogame: Space Encounter available for
PC
and Mac!


Hi Simon,
I will be downloading this one as well. However, I'm very reluctant to
spend
over €200 on an audio game. I don't know what this comes to in 
Australian

dollars but if it means getting your name the credits for purchasing the
gold edition, it's something to think about. This is one of my favourite
game genres.


Sent from my iPad


On 20 Nov 2015, at 4:18 AM, goshawk on horseback
 wrote:

just received the below, will definitely be getting this one.

Simon

- Original Message -
From: IV Productions
To: goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:45 PM
Subject: New audiogame: Space Encounter available for PC and Mac!


Hi all,

here we are with some news we hope you'll find juicy...

We are introducing a new audiogame, it's called "Space Encounter", a
space-based shoot'em up.

It is available in its First Open Edition, first edition ever being
published for PC and Mac. There are different purchasing options, each
one
has different a different price, starting at 19,90€.

Full speed ahead then and, if you can, support us choosing the Bronze
Medal, the Silver Medal or the Gold Medal. We are a small, private
company, no subsidies, and we need you and your purchases to be able to
continue produce more and better audiogames.

Buy Space Encounter - First Open Edition - 19,90€:
http://www.ticonblu.it/audiogame/shop/shop_spaceencounter_final_eng.html?lang=eng


Buy Space Encounter - First Open Edition - Bronze Medal - 49,90€:
http://www.ticonblu.it/audiogame/shop/shop_spaceencounter_bronze_eng.html?lang=eng

Includes: one ship named as you like.
Buy Space Encounter - First Open Edition - Silver Medal - 99,90€:
http://www.ticonblu.it/audiogame/shop/shop_spaceencounter_silver_eng.html?lang=eng


Includes: one ship plus one campaign named as you like.
Buy Space Encounter - First Open Edition - Gold Medal - 249,90€:
http://www.ticonblu.it/audiogame/shop/shop_spaceencounter_gold_eng.html?lang=eng

Includes:
 a.. two ships named as you like

 b.. two campaigns named as you like

 c.. special mention in the 'Credits' section of the game as Associate
Producer



Join the Space Encounter! Shoot your missiles and exterminate the alien
scum! Win the Total War and become the Supreme Intergalactic Commander!


Game Description
Pilot, are you ready to fight the alien oppression with Space 
Encounter?

During an immersive gaming experience, you'll face many enemy fleets,
coming from all the universe!
Choose your ship and your equipment and dash yourself into the battle!
Shoot first and destroy everithing that's moving.
Test yo

Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Danielle Ledet]

Charles, I could not have expressed it any better! I dislike the fact
folks can just modify code at will. The right person able to do this
can cause loads of trouble without even sending a virus either way
damage is done! Anybody with that kind of advanced savvy is dangerous!


On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard  wrote:
> You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a piece
> of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
> could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
> go."
>
> That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.
>
>
> ---
> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,
>
> you! really! are! finished!
> - Original Message -
> From: "john" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>
>
>> No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less
>> so.
>> Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
>> This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be
>> able to exploit them.
>> On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
>> Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
>> modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official
>> source.
>> Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
>> then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
>> but
>> that's about as far as it can go.
>> A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
>> software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
>> governments
>> and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
>> crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
>> you
>> used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
>> In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
>> that
>> it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
>> isn't
>> possible without seeing the code.
>> Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as
>> secure
>> as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and,
>> more importantly, how well the code's written.
>>
>> --
>> From: "Charles Rivard" 
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>>
>> Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
>> the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.
>>
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>> you! really! are! finished!
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Re: [Audyssey] Fw: New audiogame: Space Encounter available forPCand Mac!

[Danielle Ledet]

Geez I have fallen in love with Jesus not Google! Thanks for the
conversion! Hope it should work for me in the future. That is an
interesting find and something I'd not thought to do. Google doesn't
work here for me antyway!



On 11/20/15, dark  wrote:
> Hi Danielle.
>
> Sinse I often buy things in dollars, (and occasionaly euroes), I can do
> rough convertions from British pounds in my head, but I've just been looking
> around for a currency converter and found something very interesting.
> if you type the basic amounts into google, you will be given an instant
> convertion, eg, if you wanted to know what ten us dollars was in pounds
> you'd type 10 usd to gbp.
>
> For example,
>
> 19.49 euros = 20.7504 US dollars.
>
> So, there you have it, the basic game costs 20 dollars an70 cents :D.
>
> Hth.
>
> Dark.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Danielle Ledet" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 9:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fw: New audiogame: Space Encounter available
> forPCand Mac!
>
>
>> See I'm always hesitant to buy games in foreign currency cuz I don't
>> know what that translates to in US dollars. Sounds good though and def
>> something I would play.
>>
>>
>> On 11/20/15, dark  wrote:
>>> Hi Simon.
>>>
>>> As I said, I think the extra rewards aren't so much a sale as a
>>> kickstarter
>>> style "donate to us for a bit of random rewards" rather than an attempt
>>> to
>>> actually sell specific upgrades to the game, indeed I suspect they're as
>>> expensive as they are sinse I imagine once you've created a ship or
>>> campaign
>>> name or whatever it'll go into the game for a future version for everyone
>>>
>>> to
>>> try, and thus will need recording by their voice artist.
>>>
>>> If you don't want to donate and just want to buy the game, that is fine.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Dark.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "goshawk on horseback" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fw: New audiogame: Space Encounter available for
>>> PCand Mac!
>>>
>>>
I definitely won't be spending that much on it. for the comparatively
small
 extras of being able to customize a name or 2, I personally don't think
 that
 the extra outlay is worth it. now if one could for example customize
 your
 ship's features, get access to more and/or better weapons, better
 sensors,
 faster engines and such, and/or unlock more or different missions, those
 would be the sorts of things that I for one would seriously think about
 forking out extra for.

 Simon


 - Original Message -
 From: "Appleman" 
 To: "goshawk on horseback" ;
 "Gamers
 Discussion list" 
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 7:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fw: New audiogame: Space Encounter available for
 PC
 and Mac!


 Hi Simon,
 I will be downloading this one as well. However, I'm very reluctant to
 spend
 over €200 on an audio game. I don't know what this comes to in
 Australian
 dollars but if it means getting your name the credits for purchasing the
 gold edition, it's something to think about. This is one of my favourite
 game genres.


 Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Nov 2015, at 4:18 AM, goshawk on horseback
>  wrote:
>
> just received the below, will definitely be getting this one.
>
> Simon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: IV Productions
> To: goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:45 PM
> Subject: New audiogame: Space Encounter available for PC and Mac!
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> here we are with some news we hope you'll find juicy...
>
> We are introducing a new audiogame, it's called "Space Encounter", a
> space-based shoot'em up.
>
> It is available in its First Open Edition, first edition ever being
> published for PC and Mac. There are different purchasing options, each
> one
> has different a different price, starting at 19,90€.
>
> Full speed ahead then and, if you can, support us choosing the Bronze
> Medal, the Silver Medal or the Gold Medal. We are a small, private
> company, no subsidies, and we need you and your purchases to be able to
> continue produce more and better audiogames.
>
> Buy Space Encounter - First Open Edition - 19,90€:
> http://www.ticonblu.it/audiogame/shop/shop_spaceencounter_final_eng.html?lang=eng
>
>
> Buy Space Encounter - First Open Edition - Bronze Medal - 49,90€:
> http://www.ticonblu.it/audiogame/shop/shop_spaceencounter_bronze_eng.html?lang=eng
>
> Includes: one ship named as you like.
> Buy Space Encounter - First Open Edition - Silver Medal - 99,90€:
> http://www.ticonblu.it/audiogame/shop/shop_spaceencounter_silver_eng.html?lang=eng
>
>
> Includes: one sh

Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Josh K]

most people who run open source systems such as linux, though, know 
better than not to run any old code that someone may just hand to them. 
also because it is open source, linux security can be fixed faster than 
windows security most cases.


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On 11/20/2015 4:51 PM, Danielle Ledet wrote:

Charles, I could not have expressed it any better! I dislike the fact
folks can just modify code at will. The right person able to do this
can cause loads of trouble without even sending a virus either way
damage is done! Anybody with that kind of advanced savvy is dangerous!


On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard  wrote:

You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a piece
of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
go."

That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.


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you! really! are! finished!
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From: "john" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less
so.
Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be
able to exploit them.
On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official
source.
Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
but
that's about as far as it can go.
A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
governments
and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
you
used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
that
it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
isn't
possible without seeing the code.
Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as
secure
as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and,
more importantly, how well the code's written.

--
From: "Charles Rivard" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Josh K]

also most of the world's websites run on servers and those servers run 
open source linux. I always keep a open source ubuntu linux disk around 
with the open source screen reader orca on it because if i want to check 
out a questionable website i can go to it running a live ubuntu disk and 
it won't hurt my computer at all. it could be filled with windows 
malware and viruses but those won't hurt linux at all. open source 
software also gets updates probably more frequently than windows to 
patch security holes and other such things. I also run open source NVDA 
and have no issues.


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On 11/20/2015 4:51 PM, Danielle Ledet wrote:

Charles, I could not have expressed it any better! I dislike the fact
folks can just modify code at will. The right person able to do this
can cause loads of trouble without even sending a virus either way
damage is done! Anybody with that kind of advanced savvy is dangerous!


On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard  wrote:

You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a piece
of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
go."

That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.


---
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- Original Message -
From: "john" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less
so.
Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be
able to exploit them.
On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official
source.
Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
but
that's about as far as it can go.
A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
governments
and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
you
used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
that
it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
isn't
possible without seeing the code.
Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as
secure
as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and,
more importantly, how well the code's written.

--
From: "Charles Rivard" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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[Audyssey] open source and viruses, was blindfold airhockey

[john]

Then again, I could also write something in bgt, compile it, and post it 
here as some cool sounding game. You hit enter on it and my evil deed also 
gets done.

--
From: "Charles Rivard" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 16:18
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a piece
of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
go."

That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.


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- Original Message - 
From: "john" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out


> No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less
> so.
> Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
> This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be
> able to exploit them.
> On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
> Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
> modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official source.
> Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
> then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
> but
> that's about as far as it can go.
> A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
> software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
> governments
> and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
> crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
> you
> used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
> In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
> that
> it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
> isn't
> possible without seeing the code.
> Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as
> secure
> as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and,
> more importantly, how well the code's written.
>
> --
> From: "Charles Rivard" 
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>
> Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
> the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[john]

You're incorrect here. You can modify your copy of the code, and *only* your 
copy of the code. You cannot get others to run that code.
I also resent being called "dangerous" - and I suspect a number of other 
folks on this list do as well - just because I happen to be able to write 
programs.

--
From: "Danielle Ledet" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 16:51
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Charles, I could not have expressed it any better! I dislike the fact
folks can just modify code at will. The right person able to do this
can cause loads of trouble without even sending a virus either way
damage is done! Anybody with that kind of advanced savvy is dangerous!


On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard  wrote:
> You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a piece
> of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
> could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
> go."
>
> That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.
>
>
> ---
> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
> finished,
>
> you! really! are! finished!
> - Original Message -
> From: "john" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>
>
>> No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less
>> so.
>> Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
>> This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be
>> able to exploit them.
>> On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
>> Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
>> modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official
>> source.
>> Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
>> then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
>> but
>> that's about as far as it can go.
>> A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
>> software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
>> governments
>> and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
>> crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
>> you
>> used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
>> In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
>> that
>> it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
>> isn't
>> possible without seeing the code.
>> Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as
>> secure
>> as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and,
>> more importantly, how well the code's written.
>>
>> --
>> From: "Charles Rivard" 
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>>
>> Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
>> the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.
>>
>> ---
>> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
>> finished,
>> you! really! are! finished!
>>
>>
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[Audyssey] there's a diference - Re: blindfold airhockey is now out

[Charles Rivard]

I would not think that John is dangerous because he can write code.  It's 
what he does, not what he can do, that matters.  I am perfectly capable of 
firing a loaded gun, but I am not dangerous.  See the difference?


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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



Charles, I could not have expressed it any better! I dislike the fact
folks can just modify code at will. The right person able to do this
can cause loads of trouble without even sending a virus either way
damage is done! Anybody with that kind of advanced savvy is dangerous!


On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard  wrote:
You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a 
piece

of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
go."

That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.


---
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finished,


you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message -
From: "john" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out


No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its 
less

so.
Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might 
be

able to exploit them.
On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official
source.
Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
but
that's about as far as it can go.
A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
governments
and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
you
used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
that
it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
isn't
possible without seeing the code.
Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as
secure
as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used 
and,

more importantly, how well the code's written.

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Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know 
that

the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Marty Schultz]

I just wanted to jump in quickly; I won't really participate in this 
android debate, but the key issue with apps created for android, is that 
you can install any app on an android phone without going through  
google play.  And, google play store won't check your code for malware.  
That means you can install malware on your phone, and that malware touch 
other things on the phone just like windows malware can affect other 
things, and reek havoc, not just on your phone, but by sending out fake 
emails to people in your contact list, etc.


I am often frustrated by the extent that apple goes through to keep apps 
clean and malware free, and as a developer, sometimes I have to jump 
through hoops.  But, as a consumer, I trust my iphone way more than I 
trust the PCs or Macs on my desk.



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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Charles Rivard]

I was under the impression that you could modify code and distribute it to 
others.


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You're incorrect here. You can modify your copy of the code, and *only* 
your

copy of the code. You cannot get others to run that code.
I also resent being called "dangerous" - and I suspect a number of other
folks on this list do as well - just because I happen to be able to write
programs.

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Charles, I could not have expressed it any better! I dislike the fact
folks can just modify code at will. The right person able to do this
can cause loads of trouble without even sending a virus either way
damage is done! Anybody with that kind of advanced savvy is dangerous!


On 11/20/15, Charles Rivard  wrote:
You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a 
piece

of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
go."

That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out


No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its 
less

so.
Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might 
be

able to exploit them.
On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official
source.
Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
but
that's about as far as it can go.
A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
governments
and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
you
used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
that
it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
isn't
possible without seeing the code.
Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as
secure
as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used 
and,

more importantly, how well the code's written.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know 
that

the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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[Audyssey] exactly - Re: open source and viruses, was blindfold airhockey

[Charles Rivard]

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Subject: [Audyssey] open source and viruses, was blindfold airhockey



Then again, I could also write something in bgt, compile it, and post it
here as some cool sounding game. You hit enter on it and my evil deed also
gets done.

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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a piece
of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
go."

That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less
so.
Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be
able to exploit them.
On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official 
source.

Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
but
that's about as far as it can go.
A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
governments
and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
you
used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
that
it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
isn't
possible without seeing the code.
Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as
secure
as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and,
more importantly, how well the code's written.

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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.

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Re: [Audyssey] exactly - Re: open source and viruses, was blindfold air hockey

[john]

I think we're starting to get a bit off topic, so I'll try to wrap this up. 
I'm not saying that open source software can't be dangerous, I'm saying that 
its no more dangerous than closed source, and often times less so, because 
if you try to distribute something actually malicious open source, anybody 
can call you on it, and the internet tends to be rather unforgiving of 
people who openly try to hurt others - especially if you're obvious enough 
to throw a giant roadmap out for everybody to look at. Its a rule of thumb 
that you shouldn't run something if you don't have a clue what it does, but 
this applies to both open and closed source software equally.
Somebody who writes malware still needs to convince you to run it, and 
that's harder to do if you can see exactly what it does before you launch 
the program. Malicious software that just sits on some cracker's computer 
does nothing but make them look suspicious to police; its only when somebody 
else willingly runs it that it becomes dangerous.
I suspect that, when you originally started this thread, you were thinking 
more along the lines of attacks that involve spoofing a website or program, 
in an attempt to convince users that the malware is actually legitimate. 
This is different from open source; its similar to somebody changing a 
phoneline so that when you try to call a friend, you get your arch enemy 
instead. The two could be combined; one could modify source and then attempt 
to fool people into believing that said modified source was the original, 
but I think we're probably out in the realm of theory here as opposed to 
actual practice, especially because of the reasons mentioned earlier.

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Subject: [Audyssey] exactly - Re:  open source and viruses,was blindfold 
airhockey



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Subject: [Audyssey] open source and viruses, was blindfold airhockey


> Then again, I could also write something in bgt, compile it, and post it
> here as some cool sounding game. You hit enter on it and my evil deed also
> gets done.
>
> --
> From: "Charles Rivard" 
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 16:18
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>
> You state my point exactly when you say, "Certainly, I could write a piece
> of code and include it in a package and then give a virus to everybody I
> could convince to run my modified code, but that's about as far as it can
> go."
>
> That's as far as it needs to go to get the evil deed done.
>
>
> ---
> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
> finished,
> you! really! are! finished!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "john" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>
>
>> No, open source is not more vulnerable to viruses - if anything, its less
>> so.
>> Yes, you can view and modify a copy of the code.
>> This can teach you how the code works, so if there are bugs, you might be
>> able to exploit them.
>> On the other hand, if there are bugs, users can report them more easily.
>> Being able to modify a copy of the code does not mean you can get that
>> modified code distributed - you only have a copy, not the official
>> source.
>> Certainly, I could write a piece of code and include it in a package and
>> then give a virus to everybody I could convince to run my modified code,
>> but
>> that's about as far as it can go.
>> A perfect example of open source software is  - or was - the encryption
>> software true crypt. This was used industry wide - corporations,
>> governments
>> and individuals all relied on it, for a really long period of time. True
>> crypt was the gold standard - if you wanted high quality data security,
>> you
>> used it, and if you wanted the code, you could get it.
>> In fact, part of the reason true crypt was as widely used as it was is
>> that
>> it was audited by independent security professionals, something which
>> isn't
>> possible without seeing the code.
>> Basically what this all boils down to is that open source is just as
>> secure
>> as anything else - it all depends on the distribution mechanism used and,
>> more importantly, how well the code's written.
>>
>> --
>> From: "Charles Rivard" 
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 13:31
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out
>>
>> Aren't they more vulnerable to having a virus put into them?  I know that
>> the closed system of Apple is more secure in this way.
>>

Re: [Audyssey] the swamp game

[corey overton]

oh okay so I go to audio games and download it that way is that what your 
saying but what if theres know download link. lately there are some games 
you can't download from the audio games sight


-Original Message- 
From: john

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 8:20 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the swamp game

As I said - if you want to use that link you will need to use a download
manager. If you don't have one, go to audiogames.net and grab a download
link from dropbox.

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Hi I got the swamp game downloaded but what ever program I try to open it
weather using jzip or windows explorerthe files won’t open any sugjestions?
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Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

[Shaun Everiss]

Well opensource is more ddangerous, in the sence that since it is 
hackers and others can use it to make viruses, but they can do that anyway.

You can cut down with staying with lagit sites for the most part.
sadly you do need unchecky for a few installs /nocandy for candy 
installs etc.
I don't think opensource is more dangerous than anything else the only 
thing is that  people can get access to it more easily I guess.
Don't get me wrong there have been times ie android where those of bad 
wishes may want to hack a phone and there will always be that.
However that doesn't make opensource more dangerous than any other 
electronic net app.



On 21/11/2015 1:45 a.m., Josh K wrote:

if open source is so dangerous then why is linux mint and ubuntu so very
popular, not to mention android phones are way way way more popular and
are vastly outselling the iPhones? I have a mix of open source and
proprietary stuff in my house, a 4th gen apple tv, android phone,
windows10 laptop, and my cable box is a mix of open source software and
some proprietary stuff. yes even comcast cable uses open source stuff in
its talking set top boxes. and i also have a ubuntu 14.04 dvd disk
around here in case I need it.

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On 11/20/2015 7:26 AM, john wrote:

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "because they are open source
they're a
danger". A *lot* of very well known and successful software is open
source:
7-zip, nvda, the linux operating system, just to name a few.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out

The very fact that they are open source is a danger.  Plus it would be
more
work for a developer, and the blind iDevice user market is far larger
than
the blind Android user market, plus the vast number of phones and
different
operating systems is a problem when it comes to Androids.  The number of
iDevice types and operating systems is not much of a factor. Anything
7.0 or
higher is compatible for iDevice users, and most devices will be able
to use
the software.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blindfold airhockey is now out



Yes I second that request, we can't leve android users out plus I love
android more than iphone because at least most of the apps are open
source.

On 11/12/2015 10:05 PM, Josh K wrote:

please make this game for android also. thanks.

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On 11/12/2015 5:58 PM, joseph weakland wrote:

Hello all airhockey fans. Have you ever wanted to play airhockey on
your
ios
device? Well, now you can cause blindfold airhockey is officially
outJ.
Below is description from IOS app store


Blindfold Air Hockey is an fully accessible audio game that's
similar to
the
arcade game Air Hockey.

In Blindfold Air Hockey, you have a mallet or paddle, and there's a
puck
on
the playing table. To start the game, hit the puck swiping your
finger.
The
puck heads towards your opponent's goal, where he knocks it back to
you,
bouncing off of the walls as it gets closer to your goal. You block
his
shot, and fire the puck back at his goal. The first player to score 7
goals
wins the game.

Using head phones or ear buds, you hear the puck heading towards you,
and
you control your mallet by moving your finger left and right. When the
puck
is close enough, you'll hear a ding sound, and you can swipe the puck
aim at
your opponent's goal.

Blindfold Air Hockey comes with a tutorial level, and 16 different
opponents
- varying from beginner to expert.

Blindfold Air Hockey was suggested by several blind gamers who enjoyed
Blindfold Breakout and Blindfold Bowling.

The game comes with coins; you need one coin to play. To get more
coins,
you
can listen to advertising videos, or purchase coins as an in-app
upgrade.



...More

    Blindfold Air Hockey Support



Have fun and if you have issues/suggestions/ideas email

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[Audyssey] Link to the blindfold puzzle app

[brennenkinch]

Can someOne send me the blindfold tile puzzle game pleaseI tried to get it from 
the applevis page but when i tried to double tap on the app store page and it 
took me to the blindfold craps appstore page

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Re: [Audyssey] Link to the blindfold puzzle app

[Charles Rivard]

According to the app developer, due to a problem, the game has been pulled 
from the store, but the fixed version should be out within a few days. 
Also, I would not send the game to anyone.  It should be gotten through the 
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Can someOne send me the blindfold tile puzzle game pleaseI tried to get it 
from the applevis page but when i tried to double tap on the app store 
page and it took me to the blindfold craps appstore page


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Re: [Audyssey] the swamp game

[john]

I took a brief look and the existing dropbox links weren't readily apparent. 
Therefore, here's a temporary one:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85682400/Swamp.zip
Download will remain valid for a brief period; don't bet on anything more 
than this weekend.


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From: "corey overton" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 19:38
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the swamp game

oh okay so I go to audio games and download it that way is that what your
saying but what if theres know download link. lately there are some games
you can't download from the audio games sight

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From: john
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 8:20 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the swamp game

As I said - if you want to use that link you will need to use a download
manager. If you don't have one, go to audiogames.net and grab a download
link from dropbox.

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From: "corey overton" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 8:59
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Subject: [Audyssey] the swamp game

Hi I got the swamp game downloaded but what ever program I try to open it
weather using jzip or windows explorerthe files won’t open any sugjestions?
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[Audyssey] New from choiceofgames a study in steampunk

[dark]

For some odd reason, when I try to forward the actual e-mail it tends to 
bounce, so I'll just copy the appropriate info. 

People who want to read the original announcement can go to:
http://us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=eba910fddc9629b2810db6182&id=6dc3efb129&e=2f6fd706f2

There's a new game in our 
Hosted Games
 program ready for you to play!
Steam-powered mechs meet forbidden 
sorcery!
Inspired by Sherlock Holmes, Dracula, Jekyll & Hyde, and Jack the Ripper, 
A Study in 
Steampunk: Choice by Gaslight
 is an epic 277,000-word interactive mystery novel by 
Heather Albano, co-author of "Choice of Broadsides," "Choice of Zombies," and 
"Choice of Romance: Affairs of the Court." Your choices control the story. It's 
entirely 
text-based--without graphics or sound effects--and fueled by the vast, 
unstoppable 
power of your imagination. It's 25% off until December 1.
The game is afoot! In a world of gaslit streets, mysteriously long-lived 
foreign nobles, 
and master criminals, will you defend your Empire from spies or overthrow it 
from 
within? Advocate science and reason or learn forbidden magic? Romance men, 
women, both, or neither? End as a healer, a freedom fighter, a vigilante, or a 
traitor?
The fate of the Empire is in your hands!
Solve mysteries, hunt criminals, and match wits with enemy spies. 
Defend your homeland from the machinations of a master criminal and the 
conspiracies of the evil Vlaski Empire. 
Search for the truth about the sorcerers that reigned before the age of steam. 
Build deep friendships, acquire powerful enemies, and perhaps even find true 
love. 
Explore all the dark corners of a gaslit, fog-shrouded city.and unearth all its 
secrets. 


Also note that they had two other games out two weeks ago. One under 
Choiceofgames called diabolic where you play as a super villain, and one other 
hosted games called "attak of the clockwork army" (no prises for guessing what 
that one is about). 

As usual you can  buy and play these directly on www.choiceofgames.com, or from 
the Ios or Android ap stores by looking under choiceofgames or hosted games. 

All the best, 

Dark.
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[Audyssey] Open source end of discussion

[dark]

Okay, I'll be the first to admit I'm not a list moderator, however as Tom isn't 
here perhaps I could briefly borrow my moderation hat from audiogames.net for a 
second. 

John is correct, the discussion of open source has I think got away from games, 
so might I suggest we please finish that topic and get back to gaming, 
especially given how many games are floating around right now?

As I said, I'm not a list mod, but I think this is what Tom would be saying 
were he here,  and hopefully he'll be back to say it himself before long 
:D. 

If Damien or any of the existing list moderators want to tell me this is none 
of my beezwax,  ffare enough.

All the best, 

Dark.
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[Audyssey] Blindfold Vee Ball

[Appleman]

Hi all,
  I just came across Blindfold Vee Ball in the App store. This is based on the 
Ski Ball game, where you roll a ball up a ramp. There are 5 holes the ball can 
land in. Depending on which hole the ball lands in determines the number of 
points you score, which can range from 10 to 100. I haven’t played this yet but 
have installed it on my iPhone. Enjoy.
David
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[Audyssey] admin message: close topic: open source.

[Shane Davidson]

Subject says it all, as interim  list moderator, I am officially closing 
the open source topic.

Thank you.
Shane

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[Audyssey] Choice of Games: accessibility?

[Tobias Vinteus]

Hi,
I've successfully been playing games from Choice of Games online on their 
website. Since they offer their titles on Android, Chrome Webstore and 
Steam, I wonder, are any of those platforms even more accessible than the 
web version or might I as well stick tothe web version?


Thanks,
Tobias


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Re: [Audyssey] Link to the blindfold puzzle app

[christopher hallsworth]

You can't share games from the App Store anyway as they are encrypted with your 
Apple ID. You can however share the links to them.
> On 21 Nov 2015, at 01:39, Charles Rivard  wrote:
> 
> According to the app developer, due to a problem, the game has been pulled 
> from the store, but the fixed version should be out within a few days. Also, 
> I would not send the game to anyone.  It should be gotten through the 
> appropriate source.  Thanks.
> 
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> you! really! are! finished!
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> Subject: [Audyssey] Link to the blindfold puzzle app
> 
> 
>> 
>> Can someOne send me the blindfold tile puzzle game pleaseI tried to get it 
>> from the applevis page but when i tried to double tap on the app store page 
>> and it took me to the blindfold craps appstore page
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