Re: [Audyssey] the future of this list and the audyssey domain.
Agreed. Audyssey works fine - leave it as is. You have available offers if you really need space for the archives. -- From: "Dennis Towne" Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 14:39 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the future of this list and the audyssey domain. Honestly, I wouldn't mess with it. What we're doing now works fine. If we switch the list to something else, it'll just mean that we lose half of the list participants, and the people who remain will have to figure out brand new bugs and problems with the new service. Don't try to fix what isn't broken. -dentin Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Devin Prater wrote: > But it's not all that accessible. Wouldn't groups.io work fine too? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:48 PM, mikolaj holysz >> wrote: >> >> We can, and in my opinion should, move to googlegroups. >> Why? because 1. It's free, 2. It requires no servers, so nothing can >> really go down. 3. The archives are available on the website, so no >> paying for storage is required. I am in a few groups on this platform, >> and it works great. >> W dniu 2016-03-04 o 12:29, Shane Davidson pisze: >>> Hello all, >>> When Thomas went into the hospital some month's ago I was tasked with >>> moderation of this list, but the day-to-day operations and maintenance >>> fees associated with keeping the list alive were still his >>> responsibility. >>> With his passing, it falls to me as the one that was in charge to decide >>> next steps for this really really awesome list and how we wish to >>> proceed from hear on out. But since their are so many members on this >>> list, I look to you, the membership for your ideas and suggestions. >>> Running a list of this size requires time, (of witch I have plenty of), >>> and financial cost both for archive disk space, downloads that may be on >>> audyssey and bandwidth for it all. >>> SO I look forward to your suggestions and ideas. >>> Sincerely, >>> Shane Davidson >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the future of this list and the audyssey domain.
hello, over googlo groups, I prefer freelists, and groups.io , if you want server based.as in, that way. Sent from an iPad Air > On 12 Mar 2016, at 6:48 pm, mikolaj holysz wrote: > > We can, and in my opinion should, move to googlegroups. > Why? because 1. It's free, 2. It requires no servers, so nothing can really > go down. 3. The archives are available on the website, so no paying for > storage is required. I am in a few groups on this platform, and it works > great. > W dniu 2016-03-04 o 12:29, Shane Davidson pisze: >> Hello all, >> When Thomas went into the hospital some month's ago I was tasked with >> moderation of this list, but the day-to-day operations and maintenance >> fees associated with keeping the list alive were still his responsibility. >> With his passing, it falls to me as the one that was in charge to decide >> next steps for this really really awesome list and how we wish to >> proceed from hear on out. But since their are so many members on this >> list, I look to you, the membership for your ideas and suggestions. >> Running a list of this size requires time, (of witch I have plenty of), >> and financial cost both for archive disk space, downloads that may be on >> audyssey and bandwidth for it all. >> SO I look forward to your suggestions and ideas. >> Sincerely, >> Shane Davidson >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the future of this list and the audyssey domain.
Well said Denis. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Dennis Towne Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:39 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the future of this list and the audyssey domain. Honestly, I wouldn't mess with it. What we're doing now works fine. If we switch the list to something else, it'll just mean that we lose half of the list participants, and the people who remain will have to figure out brand new bugs and problems with the new service. Don't try to fix what isn't broken. -dentin Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Devin Prater wrote: But it's not all that accessible. Wouldn't groups.io work fine too? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:48 PM, mikolaj holysz wrote: We can, and in my opinion should, move to googlegroups. Why? because 1. It's free, 2. It requires no servers, so nothing can really go down. 3. The archives are available on the website, so no paying for storage is required. I am in a few groups on this platform, and it works great. W dniu 2016-03-04 o 12:29, Shane Davidson pisze: Hello all, When Thomas went into the hospital some month's ago I was tasked with moderation of this list, but the day-to-day operations and maintenance fees associated with keeping the list alive were still his responsibility. With his passing, it falls to me as the one that was in charge to decide next steps for this really really awesome list and how we wish to proceed from hear on out. But since their are so many members on this list, I look to you, the membership for your ideas and suggestions. Running a list of this size requires time, (of witch I have plenty of), and financial cost both for archive disk space, downloads that may be on audyssey and bandwidth for it all. SO I look forward to your suggestions and ideas. Sincerely, Shane Davidson --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the future of this list and the audyssey domain.
groups.io is the best but your choice. On 3/12/16, Shane Davidson wrote: > I am not considering moving the list from it's current home at this time > nor in the foreseeable future. > Thank you. > Shane Davidson > > On 3/12/2016 2:39 PM, Dennis Towne wrote: >> Honestly, I wouldn't mess with it. What we're doing now works fine. >> If we switch the list to something else, it'll just mean that we lose >> half of the list participants, and the people who remain will have to >> figure out brand new bugs and problems with the new service. >> >> Don't try to fix what isn't broken. >> >> -dentin >> >> Alter Aeon MUD >> http://www.alteraeon.com >> >> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Devin Prater >> wrote: >>> But it's not all that accessible. Wouldn't groups.io work fine too? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:48 PM, mikolaj holysz wrote: We can, and in my opinion should, move to googlegroups. Why? because 1. It's free, 2. It requires no servers, so nothing can really go down. 3. The archives are available on the website, so no paying for storage is required. I am in a few groups on this platform, and it works great. W dniu 2016-03-04 o 12:29, Shane Davidson pisze: > Hello all, > When Thomas went into the hospital some month's ago I was tasked with > moderation of this list, but the day-to-day operations and maintenance > fees associated with keeping the list alive were still his > responsibility. > With his passing, it falls to me as the one that was in charge to > decide > next steps for this really really awesome list and how we wish to > proceed from hear on out. But since their are so many members on this > list, I look to you, the membership for your ideas and suggestions. > Running a list of this size requires time, (of witch I have plenty > of), > and financial cost both for archive disk space, downloads that may be > on > audyssey and bandwidth for it all. > SO I look forward to your suggestions and ideas. > Sincerely, > Shane Davidson > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > -- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web,
Re: [Audyssey] the future of this list and the audyssey domain.
I am not considering moving the list from it's current home at this time nor in the foreseeable future. Thank you. Shane Davidson On 3/12/2016 2:39 PM, Dennis Towne wrote: Honestly, I wouldn't mess with it. What we're doing now works fine. If we switch the list to something else, it'll just mean that we lose half of the list participants, and the people who remain will have to figure out brand new bugs and problems with the new service. Don't try to fix what isn't broken. -dentin Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Devin Prater wrote: But it's not all that accessible. Wouldn't groups.io work fine too? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:48 PM, mikolaj holysz wrote: We can, and in my opinion should, move to googlegroups. Why? because 1. It's free, 2. It requires no servers, so nothing can really go down. 3. The archives are available on the website, so no paying for storage is required. I am in a few groups on this platform, and it works great. W dniu 2016-03-04 o 12:29, Shane Davidson pisze: Hello all, When Thomas went into the hospital some month's ago I was tasked with moderation of this list, but the day-to-day operations and maintenance fees associated with keeping the list alive were still his responsibility. With his passing, it falls to me as the one that was in charge to decide next steps for this really really awesome list and how we wish to proceed from hear on out. But since their are so many members on this list, I look to you, the membership for your ideas and suggestions. Running a list of this size requires time, (of witch I have plenty of), and financial cost both for archive disk space, downloads that may be on audyssey and bandwidth for it all. SO I look forward to your suggestions and ideas. Sincerely, Shane Davidson --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
Salute, salute! Sy Dark (and indeed Lady Sy dark), approve your knolidge of custome despite the fact that the world has moved on. Hile gunslinger. Dark. - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Sam and Walter both have forgotten the face of their fathers. If it isn't yet evident, Lorrie, I'm on your side. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:49 AM, Allison Passino wrote: Well that really sucks! I am sorry, Lori. I thought that Sam was more sensible, but it is clear that he is not. Well I did think this game was okay; I don't use mac so I didn't care that it was only on Windows, but I shall not be party to a game where good people whom I consider friends are being mistreated, and no lawful, just action is being taken! For that is not honour. Sam is young yet though, and I do hope that he grows the frack up and sees what a chameleon his supposed friend is! And i don't know you well, Lori, but you are a good friend of Bryan Peterson who was my ex, so any good friend of Bryan's is a good friend of mine! Bryan's good people! smile Sorry for the off topic Dark, just wanted Lori to know that I too, am on her side. Both Sam and Walter's conduct is, in my opinion, untenable! And I am officially mad, now. On 3/12/16, loriduncan wrote: Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are forewarned now and know what to look out for. I was bullied when I was about 12 years old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like walter and used emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the bullie's side because they said she had issues. Thankfully though I got out of that school and was much happier back home. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you though. But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community, know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do something worse in the future. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan wrote: I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a reality check. I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can only hope he doesn't move onto more victoms. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like Clok to the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan wrote: Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, in fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I sent him, which I most certainly didn't do. There was enough evidence against walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done the mature thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still his friend and saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, then put all that crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so imature and have no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick. Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who are on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a lot, especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend. I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a mistake he has made, it'll only take something small like his player base growing smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about this whole thing. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Allison Passino Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well, good riddance, and it's good that Sam took the responsibility and banned him. From all you've said, this Walter sounds like a misogynistic, triple stoop moron jerk, who should certainly not be an admin! I'm sorry you and your friend were hurt by him. Stalkers have no life and no true sense of self, else they would not do as they do. Big hugs, and don't let him bother your thoughts any more! On 3/9/16, loriduncan wrote: Yes Swan, I saw that on the topic, thank goodness he's taking it seriously. -Original Message- From: Shaun Everiss Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well sam actually replyed this morning and is handling it don't think he is happy either. On 10/03/2016 1:54 p.m., loriduncan wrote: Hi Dark, anyone who flames you should b
Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
Lol what does that even mean, I've never heard that expression before. Thanks though for being on my side. :) -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:21 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Sam and Walter both have forgotten the face of their fathers. If it isn't yet evident, Lorrie, I'm on your side. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:49 AM, Allison Passino wrote: Well that really sucks! I am sorry, Lori. I thought that Sam was more sensible, but it is clear that he is not. Well I did think this game was okay; I don't use mac so I didn't care that it was only on Windows, but I shall not be party to a game where good people whom I consider friends are being mistreated, and no lawful, just action is being taken! For that is not honour. Sam is young yet though, and I do hope that he grows the frack up and sees what a chameleon his supposed friend is! And i don't know you well, Lori, but you are a good friend of Bryan Peterson who was my ex, so any good friend of Bryan's is a good friend of mine! Bryan's good people! smile Sorry for the off topic Dark, just wanted Lori to know that I too, am on her side. Both Sam and Walter's conduct is, in my opinion, untenable! And I am officially mad, now. On 3/12/16, loriduncan wrote: Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are forewarned now and know what to look out for. I was bullied when I was about 12 years old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like walter and used emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the bullie's side because they said she had issues. Thankfully though I got out of that school and was much happier back home. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you though. But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community, know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do something worse in the future. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan wrote: I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a reality check. I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can only hope he doesn't move onto more victoms. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like Clok to the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan wrote: Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, in fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I sent him, which I most certainly didn't do. There was enough evidence against walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done the mature thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still his friend and saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, then put all that crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so imature and have no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick. Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who are on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a lot, especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend. I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a mistake he has made, it'll only take something small like his player base growing smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about this whole thing. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Allison Passino Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well, good riddance, and it's good that Sam took the responsibility and banned him. From all you've said, this Walter sounds like a misogynistic, triple stoop moron jerk, who should certainly not be an admin! I'm sorry you and your friend were hurt by him. Stalkers have no life and no true sense of self, else they would not do as they do. Big hugs, and don't let him bother your thoughts any more! On 3/9/16, loriduncan wrote: Yes Swan, I saw that on the topic, thank goodness he's taking it seriously. -Original Message- From: Shaun Everiss Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well sam actually replyed this morning and is handling it don't think he is happy either. On 10/03/2016 1:54 p.m., loriduncan wrote: Hi Dark, anyone who flames you should be ashamed of themselves, and I'm praying I haven't caused
Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
Hi Bryan, it does have potential, it's just ran wrongly and with no professionalism whatsoever. I do know an admin on there called Arren, and he seems really decent and on my side, but other than that I'm almost hoping the game will witheer and die, or still be so full of bugs that people will stop playing. -Original Message- From: Bryan Peterson Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:38 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Guess it's a good thing I was never interested in that game. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:18 AM, loriduncan wrote: Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are forewarned now and know what to look out for. I was bullied when I was about 12 years old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like walter and used emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the bullie's side because they said she had issues. Thankfully though I got out of that school and was much happier back home. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you though. But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community, know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do something worse in the future. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan wrote: I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a reality check. I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can only hope he doesn't move onto more victoms. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like Clok to the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan wrote: Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, in fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I sent him, which I most certainly didn't do. There was enough evidence against walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done the mature thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still his friend and saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, then put all that crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so imature and have no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick. Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who are on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a lot, especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend. I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a mistake he has made, it'll only take something small like his player base growing smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about this whole thing. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Allison Passino Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well, good riddance, and it's good that Sam took the responsibility and banned him. From all you've said, this Walter sounds like a misogynistic, triple stoop moron jerk, who should certainly not be an admin! I'm sorry you and your friend were hurt by him. Stalkers have no life and no true sense of self, else they would not do as they do. Big hugs, and don't let him bother your thoughts any more! On 3/9/16, loriduncan wrote: Yes Swan, I saw that on the topic, thank goodness he's taking it seriously. -Original Message- From: Shaun Everiss Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well sam actually replyed this morning and is handling it don't think he is happy either. On 10/03/2016 1:54 p.m., loriduncan wrote: Hi Dark, anyone who flames you should be ashamed of themselves, and I'm praying I haven't caused you too much stress over this. It just got too much for me to handle alone, and I was sick of the sleepless nights and feeling threatened all the time. Thanks to everyone who has supported me. From Lori. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:19 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Just to let people know, I have had a couple of people disclose the details of Walter's actions in confidence. I've banned him from audiogames.net, sinse the guy is actively dangerous in a criminal way (I'll be getting flamed for this but hay, such is a mods job and members need to be safe). All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailin
Re: [Audyssey] the future of this list and the audyssey domain.
Hi It may work, but it is not very accessible for admins. You are better off going to Groups.io as the web interface for both admins and members is completely accessible and support is second to none. > On 12 Mar 2016, at 18:48, mikolaj holysz wrote: > > We can, and in my opinion should, move to googlegroups. > Why? because 1. It's free, 2. It requires no servers, so nothing can really > go down. 3. The archives are available on the website, so no paying for > storage is required. I am in a few groups on this platform, and it works > great. > W dniu 2016-03-04 o 12:29, Shane Davidson pisze: >> Hello all, >> When Thomas went into the hospital some month's ago I was tasked with >> moderation of this list, but the day-to-day operations and maintenance >> fees associated with keeping the list alive were still his responsibility. >> With his passing, it falls to me as the one that was in charge to decide >> next steps for this really really awesome list and how we wish to >> proceed from hear on out. But since their are so many members on this >> list, I look to you, the membership for your ideas and suggestions. >> Running a list of this size requires time, (of witch I have plenty of), >> and financial cost both for archive disk space, downloads that may be on >> audyssey and bandwidth for it all. >> SO I look forward to your suggestions and ideas. >> Sincerely, >> Shane Davidson >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the future of this list and the audyssey domain.
Honestly, I wouldn't mess with it. What we're doing now works fine. If we switch the list to something else, it'll just mean that we lose half of the list participants, and the people who remain will have to figure out brand new bugs and problems with the new service. Don't try to fix what isn't broken. -dentin Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Devin Prater wrote: > But it's not all that accessible. Wouldn't groups.io work fine too? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:48 PM, mikolaj holysz wrote: >> >> We can, and in my opinion should, move to googlegroups. >> Why? because 1. It's free, 2. It requires no servers, so nothing can really >> go down. 3. The archives are available on the website, so no paying for >> storage is required. I am in a few groups on this platform, and it works >> great. >> W dniu 2016-03-04 o 12:29, Shane Davidson pisze: >>> Hello all, >>> When Thomas went into the hospital some month's ago I was tasked with >>> moderation of this list, but the day-to-day operations and maintenance >>> fees associated with keeping the list alive were still his responsibility. >>> With his passing, it falls to me as the one that was in charge to decide >>> next steps for this really really awesome list and how we wish to >>> proceed from hear on out. But since their are so many members on this >>> list, I look to you, the membership for your ideas and suggestions. >>> Running a list of this size requires time, (of witch I have plenty of), >>> and financial cost both for archive disk space, downloads that may be on >>> audyssey and bandwidth for it all. >>> SO I look forward to your suggestions and ideas. >>> Sincerely, >>> Shane Davidson >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the future of this list and the audyssey domain.
But it's not all that accessible. Wouldn't groups.io work fine too? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 12, 2016, at 12:48 PM, mikolaj holysz wrote: > > We can, and in my opinion should, move to googlegroups. > Why? because 1. It's free, 2. It requires no servers, so nothing can really > go down. 3. The archives are available on the website, so no paying for > storage is required. I am in a few groups on this platform, and it works > great. > W dniu 2016-03-04 o 12:29, Shane Davidson pisze: >> Hello all, >> When Thomas went into the hospital some month's ago I was tasked with >> moderation of this list, but the day-to-day operations and maintenance >> fees associated with keeping the list alive were still his responsibility. >> With his passing, it falls to me as the one that was in charge to decide >> next steps for this really really awesome list and how we wish to >> proceed from hear on out. But since their are so many members on this >> list, I look to you, the membership for your ideas and suggestions. >> Running a list of this size requires time, (of witch I have plenty of), >> and financial cost both for archive disk space, downloads that may be on >> audyssey and bandwidth for it all. >> SO I look forward to your suggestions and ideas. >> Sincerely, >> Shane Davidson >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the future of this list and the audyssey domain.
We can, and in my opinion should, move to googlegroups. Why? because 1. It's free, 2. It requires no servers, so nothing can really go down. 3. The archives are available on the website, so no paying for storage is required. I am in a few groups on this platform, and it works great. W dniu 2016-03-04 o 12:29, Shane Davidson pisze: Hello all, When Thomas went into the hospital some month's ago I was tasked with moderation of this list, but the day-to-day operations and maintenance fees associated with keeping the list alive were still his responsibility. With his passing, it falls to me as the one that was in charge to decide next steps for this really really awesome list and how we wish to proceed from hear on out. But since their are so many members on this list, I look to you, the membership for your ideas and suggestions. Running a list of this size requires time, (of witch I have plenty of), and financial cost both for archive disk space, downloads that may be on audyssey and bandwidth for it all. SO I look forward to your suggestions and ideas. Sincerely, Shane Davidson --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
Aww I'm really sorry to hear that, I'm around if you need to talk off list or whatever. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:52 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Wow, that's horrible. I've not been bullied that much in life, but I've gone through a few relationships where I was just used, so I sort of know how it feels. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:18 AM, loriduncan wrote: Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are forewarned now and know what to look out for. I was bullied when I was about 12 years old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like walter and used emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the bullie's side because they said she had issues. Thankfully though I got out of that school and was much happier back home. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you though. But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community, know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do something worse in the future. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan wrote: I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a reality check. I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can only hope he doesn't move onto more victoms. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like Clok to the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan wrote: Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, in fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I sent him, which I most certainly didn't do. There was enough evidence against walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done the mature thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still his friend and saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, then put all that crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so imature and have no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick. Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who are on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a lot, especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend. I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a mistake he has made, it'll only take something small like his player base growing smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about this whole thing. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Allison Passino Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well, good riddance, and it's good that Sam took the responsibility and banned him. From all you've said, this Walter sounds like a misogynistic, triple stoop moron jerk, who should certainly not be an admin! I'm sorry you and your friend were hurt by him. Stalkers have no life and no true sense of self, else they would not do as they do. Big hugs, and don't let him bother your thoughts any more! On 3/9/16, loriduncan wrote: Yes Swan, I saw that on the topic, thank goodness he's taking it seriously. -Original Message- From: Shaun Everiss Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well sam actually replyed this morning and is handling it don't think he is happy either. On 10/03/2016 1:54 p.m., loriduncan wrote: Hi Dark, anyone who flames you should be ashamed of themselves, and I'm praying I haven't caused you too much stress over this. It just got too much for me to handle alone, and I was sick of the sleepless nights and feeling threatened all the time. Thanks to everyone who has supported me. From Lori. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:19 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Just to let people know, I have had a couple of people disclose the details of Walter's actions in confidence. I've banned him from audiogames.net, sinse the guy is actively dangerous in a criminal way (I'll be getting flamed for this but hay, such is a mods job and members need to be safe). All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make cha
Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
Thanks Alison, I've had a person on Swamp who I thought was a friend not talking to me because of this, but I guess all I can do is take a deep breath and not let it bother me, easier said than done. Bryan is a lovely guy, though we've never met, he's not some bratty little teen ager with a chip on his shoulder the size of the algarve, ok I'll shut up now before I get so mad I want to smash things, and go smash zombies instead. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Allison Passino Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:49 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well that really sucks! I am sorry, Lori. I thought that Sam was more sensible, but it is clear that he is not. Well I did think this game was okay; I don't use mac so I didn't care that it was only on Windows, but I shall not be party to a game where good people whom I consider friends are being mistreated, and no lawful, just action is being taken! For that is not honour. Sam is young yet though, and I do hope that he grows the frack up and sees what a chameleon his supposed friend is! And i don't know you well, Lori, but you are a good friend of Bryan Peterson who was my ex, so any good friend of Bryan's is a good friend of mine! Bryan's good people! smile Sorry for the off topic Dark, just wanted Lori to know that I too, am on her side. Both Sam and Walter's conduct is, in my opinion, untenable! And I am officially mad, now. On 3/12/16, loriduncan wrote: Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are forewarned now and know what to look out for. I was bullied when I was about 12 years old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like walter and used emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the bullie's side because they said she had issues. Thankfully though I got out of that school and was much happier back home. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you though. But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community, know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do something worse in the future. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan wrote: I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a reality check. I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can only hope he doesn't move onto more victoms. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like Clok to the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan wrote: Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, in fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I sent him, which I most certainly didn't do. There was enough evidence against walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done the mature thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still his friend and saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, then put all that crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so imature and have no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick. Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who are on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a lot, especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend. I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a mistake he has made, it'll only take something small like his player base growing smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about this whole thing. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Allison Passino Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well, good riddance, and it's good that Sam took the responsibility and banned him. From all you've said, this Walter sounds like a misogynistic, triple stoop moron jerk, who should certainly not be an admin! I'm sorry you and your friend were hurt by him. Stalkers have no life and no true sense of self, else they would not do as they do. Big hugs, and don't let him bother your thoughts any more! On 3/9/16, loriduncan wrote: Yes Swan, I saw that on the topic, thank goodness he's taking it seriously. -Original Message- From: Shaun Everiss Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well sam actually replyed this morning and is handling it don't think he is happy either.
Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
Sam and Walter both have forgotten the face of their fathers. If it isn't yet evident, Lorrie, I'm on your side. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:49 AM, Allison Passino > wrote: > > Well that really sucks! I am sorry, Lori. I thought that Sam was more > sensible, but it is clear that he is not. Well I did think this game > was okay; I don't use mac so I didn't care that it was only on > Windows, but I shall not be party to a game where good people whom I > consider friends are being mistreated, and no lawful, just action is > being taken! For that is not honour. Sam is young yet though, and I do > hope that he grows the frack up and sees what a chameleon his supposed > friend is! And i don't know you well, Lori, but you are a good friend > of Bryan Peterson who was my ex, so any good friend of Bryan's is a > good friend of mine! Bryan's good people! smile Sorry for the off > topic Dark, just wanted Lori to know that I too, am on her side. Both > Sam and Walter's conduct is, in my opinion, untenable! And I am > officially mad, now. > >> On 3/12/16, loriduncan wrote: >> Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are >> forewarned now and know what to look out for. I was bullied when I was >> about 12 years old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like walter >> >> and used emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the bullie's >> >> side because they said she had issues. Thankfully though I got out of that >> >> school and was much happier back home. >> >> From Lori. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Devin Prater >> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM >> To: Gamers Discussion list >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. >> >> I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you though. >> But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community, >> know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do >> something worse in the future. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan >>> wrote: >>> >>> I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a >>> reality check. I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can only >>> >>> hope he doesn't move onto more victoms. >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Devin Prater >>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM >>> To: Gamers Discussion list >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. >>> >>> Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like Clok >>> >>> to the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan wrote: Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, in fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I sent him, which I most certainly didn't do. There was enough evidence against walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done the mature thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still his friend and saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, then put all that crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so imature and have no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick. Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who are on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a lot, especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend. I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a mistake he has made, it'll only take something small like his player base growing smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about this whole thing. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Allison Passino Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well, good riddance, and it's good that Sam took the responsibility and banned him. From all you've said, this Walter sounds like a misogynistic, triple stoop moron jerk, who should certainly not be an admin! I'm sorry you and your friend were hurt by him. Stalkers have no life and no true sense of self, else they would not do as they do. Big hugs, and don't let him bother your thoughts any more! > On 3/9/16, loriduncan wrote: > Yes Swan, I saw that on the topic, thank goodness he's taking it > seriously. > > -Original Message- > From: Shaun Everiss > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:15 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. > > Well sam actually replyed this morning and is handling it don't think > he > is happy either. >
Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming
You can, since it has the option to set the compiler/interpreter, based on the language you tell it you are working in, which then also allows you to make use of different collections of code snippets, but, I don't do this - I run python code from console myself, so that I can then review any output - use that to handle forms of pseudo-debugging at times as well. There are also some other options in it relating to how it handles running the interpreter, etc. - and, remember, python itself doesn't really have a compiler built into it, so you generally use third party/external modules to generate executables, which are essentially interpreter-wrappers, and, I have used different ones for different pieces of code, due to some of them having issues with including some other modules in the wrapper content - especially if want to go for single-file .exe instead of just collecting all the necessary files into one location that would then need to be distributed along with the then smaller executable file. Also, to compile for platforms other than windows, I think you need to run that part of the process on the relevant platform itself - maybe inside a virtual version, but, still. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..." On 2016-03-08 9:55 PM, Justin Jones wrote: So, I use this software to write my code and have the Python compiler/other associated programs installed? Once I get a piece of code ready for testing, I can run the compiler from Ed Sharp? Is this how this works? On 3/8/16, jacob Kruger wrote: http://www.empowermentzone.com/edsetup.exe And: http://empowermentzone.com/EdSharp.htm And, yes, I use it for both python and PHP/javascript web-dev, with both jaws and NVDA. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..." On 2016-03-08 5:00 PM, Justin Jones wrote: I have never heard of it. Details, please. On 3/8/16, Devin Prater wrote: EdSharp, the text-editor for programmers, should work fine with Jaws. On Mar 8, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Justin Jones wrote: I guess the final consideration for me is which programming language plays the nicest with JAWS? As a corollary to that consideration, how much overhead is required to make the development environment play nicely? On 3/8/16, Devin Prater wrote: I’m not surprised. Just use a mainstream language, that way you’ll get all the support you need, because coding can be done anywhere, and is plain text. On Mar 8, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Justin Jones wrote: I cannot get Quorrum to work. I reinstalled my Java nonsense and played around with a couple of other things, but it will not play nicely with JAWS. It is supposed to, but it does not. On 3/8/16, Devin Prater wrote: My programming class in school was on a languages called Quorum. It was made specifically for blind people, but the IDE it uses is some mainstream one with accessibility features slapped uncleanly on top of it, so yeah, not all that nice. On Mar 8, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Justin Jones wrote: I remember Pascal... That was a long time ago, though, as I took a programming class in high school and that was the language that we started with. I'll go take a look at Powerbasic's web site before I make up my mind, vis-à-vis which language I will try and learn. On 3/7/16, Travis Siegel wrote: There's a reason powerbasic has the word power in it's name. If you want to know everything it can do, go read their web page, they have a complete feature set, and you can even download the manuals if you like, and read them in full before ever purchasing the product. I'm not much of a windows user anymore, and haven't been for more than 10 years, but when I do need windows work done, I almost always yank out my powerbasic compiler to do the work, because it's so simple to do it. You can create internet servers with something like 3 or 4 lines of code (they have samples that come with the compiler) and you can build res files that include all your graphics and sounds, that get distributed with your programs, and even compile those res files into the executable, so there's no need to distribute extra files just to make your game work. One single executable, with all the sounds, graphics, icons, and anything else you need for your program to work, and nobody needs to download anything except one single executable file. I know you can do that with other languages too, but it's such a difficult process, folks rarely bother to do this, with powerbasic, it's as simple as creating a text file with the filenames, and running the reseditor on it. That's all there is to it. For an example of this, go check out the battleship game I released back in 2002, (I think it's still at http://www.nfbcal.org/tsiegel/battle10.exe) and see what I mean. That has a single executable file, and all sounds are included, and the entire game is still only a co
Re: [Audyssey] New from choiceofgames
Ah, don't worry. Actually the last few Cog e-mails I've tried have bounced, one reason I assumed this one did, good it didn't sinse the original mail has all the links and such in it. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: "Shane Davidson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New from choiceofgames That was my fault, I was out of town for the weekend and then no internet so was playing mod catch up from the last couple weeks. Shane On 3/12/2016 7:13 AM, dark wrote: Oh sorryk, I thought the forwarded message hadn't appeared sinse it was taking it's time in turning up, appologies for the repeat, though it's good to know the cog e-mails can get through. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 11:48 AM Subject: [Audyssey] New from choiceofgames Hi. There are two new titles from choiceofgames, under their hosted games range. to find out more see http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=eba910fddc9629b2810db6182&id=3a3ce05360&e=2f6fd706f2 Here is a copy of the announcement. btw, I keep trying to forward the choiceofgames e-mails to the list directly, but for some whacky reason they always bounce. Either way here's the description: Scarlet Sails There are two more games in our Hosted Games program ready for you to play! Scarlet Sails: A fantastical pirate romp on the high seas! Hoist the Jolly Roger and set sail to find the legendary Titan's Treasure! Do you fight with a cutlass, or with magic? Are you biding your time until you can shoot your captain in the back, or are you the reason the rum is gone? Scarlet Sails is an 80,000-word interactive novel by Felicity Banks, author of Attack of the Clockwork Army . Your choices control the story. It's entirely text-based-without graphics or sound effects-and fueled by the vast, unstoppable power of your imagination. Enjoy an 80,000 word adventure on the high seas. One of the top ten games in the 2015 Interactive Fiction Competition. Choose your personality, fighting style, and magical skill. Choose who to love, including options for singlehood or polyamory. Face the horrors of your past, and of the deep. Find treasure, treachery, and maybe even true love. Play as male or female, gay or straight. Magikiras Magikiras: Don powered armor to fight against terrorists and eldritch beings! Magikiras is a 1,100,000-word story by Gabriel Chia that takes place in a near future where magic and technology exists side by side. Don powered armor as you take on terrorists and eldritch aliens in the not too distant future! Modify your armor to suit your needs and stand tall against your foes. Choose your team and your enemy for different sides of the same story. Play as a normal soldier or one with magic at their command. Modify your powered armor to better suit your needs and preference. These authors developed their games using ChoiceScript , a simple programming language for writing multiple-choice interactive novels like these. Writing games with ChoiceScript is easy and fun, even for authors with no programming experience. Write your own game and we'll publish it for you , giving you a share of the revenue your game produces. P.S. Try "Our Hidden Gems" bundle for iOS! We recently announced that a few of our highest rated games are available in a bundle for iOS. All of our "hidden gems" have earned a 4.5-star rating or better, which tells us that people who bought them were glad they did. Let's give our hidden gems a little extra love! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6189 / Virus Database: 4540/11801 - Release Date: 03/12/16 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All
Re: [Audyssey] New from choiceofgames
That was my fault, I was out of town for the weekend and then no internet so was playing mod catch up from the last couple weeks. Shane On 3/12/2016 7:13 AM, dark wrote: Oh sorryk, I thought the forwarded message hadn't appeared sinse it was taking it's time in turning up, appologies for the repeat, though it's good to know the cog e-mails can get through. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 11:48 AM Subject: [Audyssey] New from choiceofgames Hi. There are two new titles from choiceofgames, under their hosted games range. to find out more see http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=eba910fddc9629b2810db6182&id=3a3ce05360&e=2f6fd706f2 Here is a copy of the announcement. btw, I keep trying to forward the choiceofgames e-mails to the list directly, but for some whacky reason they always bounce. Either way here's the description: Scarlet Sails There are two more games in our Hosted Games program ready for you to play! Scarlet Sails: A fantastical pirate romp on the high seas! Hoist the Jolly Roger and set sail to find the legendary Titan's Treasure! Do you fight with a cutlass, or with magic? Are you biding your time until you can shoot your captain in the back, or are you the reason the rum is gone? Scarlet Sails is an 80,000-word interactive novel by Felicity Banks, author of Attack of the Clockwork Army . Your choices control the story. It's entirely text-based-without graphics or sound effects-and fueled by the vast, unstoppable power of your imagination. Enjoy an 80,000 word adventure on the high seas. One of the top ten games in the 2015 Interactive Fiction Competition. Choose your personality, fighting style, and magical skill. Choose who to love, including options for singlehood or polyamory. Face the horrors of your past, and of the deep. Find treasure, treachery, and maybe even true love. Play as male or female, gay or straight. Magikiras Magikiras: Don powered armor to fight against terrorists and eldritch beings! Magikiras is a 1,100,000-word story by Gabriel Chia that takes place in a near future where magic and technology exists side by side. Don powered armor as you take on terrorists and eldritch aliens in the not too distant future! Modify your armor to suit your needs and stand tall against your foes. Choose your team and your enemy for different sides of the same story. Play as a normal soldier or one with magic at their command. Modify your powered armor to better suit your needs and preference. These authors developed their games using ChoiceScript , a simple programming language for writing multiple-choice interactive novels like these. Writing games with ChoiceScript is easy and fun, even for authors with no programming experience. Write your own game and we'll publish it for you , giving you a share of the revenue your game produces. P.S. Try "Our Hidden Gems" bundle for iOS! We recently announced that a few of our highest rated games are available in a bundle for iOS. All of our "hidden gems" have earned a 4.5-star rating or better, which tells us that people who bought them were glad they did. Let's give our hidden gems a little extra love! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6189 / Virus Database: 4540/11801 - Release Date: 03/12/16 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New from choiceofgames
Oh sorryk, I thought the forwarded message hadn't appeared sinse it was taking it's time in turning up, appologies for the repeat, though it's good to know the cog e-mails can get through. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 11:48 AM Subject: [Audyssey] New from choiceofgames Hi. There are two new titles from choiceofgames, under their hosted games range. to find out more see http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=eba910fddc9629b2810db6182&id=3a3ce05360&e=2f6fd706f2 Here is a copy of the announcement. btw, I keep trying to forward the choiceofgames e-mails to the list directly, but for some whacky reason they always bounce. Either way here's the description: Scarlet Sails There are two more games in our Hosted Games program ready for you to play! Scarlet Sails: A fantastical pirate romp on the high seas! Hoist the Jolly Roger and set sail to find the legendary Titan's Treasure! Do you fight with a cutlass, or with magic? Are you biding your time until you can shoot your captain in the back, or are you the reason the rum is gone? Scarlet Sails is an 80,000-word interactive novel by Felicity Banks, author of Attack of the Clockwork Army . Your choices control the story. It's entirely text-based-without graphics or sound effects-and fueled by the vast, unstoppable power of your imagination. Enjoy an 80,000 word adventure on the high seas. One of the top ten games in the 2015 Interactive Fiction Competition. Choose your personality, fighting style, and magical skill. Choose who to love, including options for singlehood or polyamory. Face the horrors of your past, and of the deep. Find treasure, treachery, and maybe even true love. Play as male or female, gay or straight. Magikiras Magikiras: Don powered armor to fight against terrorists and eldritch beings! Magikiras is a 1,100,000-word story by Gabriel Chia that takes place in a near future where magic and technology exists side by side. Don powered armor as you take on terrorists and eldritch aliens in the not too distant future! Modify your armor to suit your needs and stand tall against your foes. Choose your team and your enemy for different sides of the same story. Play as a normal soldier or one with magic at their command. Modify your powered armor to better suit your needs and preference. These authors developed their games using ChoiceScript , a simple programming language for writing multiple-choice interactive novels like these. Writing games with ChoiceScript is easy and fun, even for authors with no programming experience. Write your own game and we'll publish it for you , giving you a share of the revenue your game produces. P.S. Try "Our Hidden Gems" bundle for iOS! We recently announced that a few of our highest rated games are available in a bundle for iOS. All of our "hidden gems" have earned a 4.5-star rating or better, which tells us that people who bought them were glad they did. Let's give our hidden gems a little extra love! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6189 / Virus Database: 4540/11801 - Release Date: 03/12/16 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] New from choiceofgames
Hi. There are two new titles from choiceofgames, under their hosted games range. to find out more see http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=eba910fddc9629b2810db6182&id=3a3ce05360&e=2f6fd706f2 Here is a copy of the announcement. btw, I keep trying to forward the choiceofgames e-mails to the list directly, but for some whacky reason they always bounce. Either way here's the description: Scarlet Sails There are two more games in our Hosted Games program ready for you to play! Scarlet Sails: A fantastical pirate romp on the high seas! Hoist the Jolly Roger and set sail to find the legendary Titan's Treasure! Do you fight with a cutlass, or with magic? Are you biding your time until you can shoot your captain in the back, or are you the reason the rum is gone? Scarlet Sails is an 80,000-word interactive novel by Felicity Banks, author of Attack of the Clockwork Army . Your choices control the story. It's entirely text-based-without graphics or sound effects-and fueled by the vast, unstoppable power of your imagination. Enjoy an 80,000 word adventure on the high seas. One of the top ten games in the 2015 Interactive Fiction Competition. Choose your personality, fighting style, and magical skill. Choose who to love, including options for singlehood or polyamory. Face the horrors of your past, and of the deep. Find treasure, treachery, and maybe even true love. Play as male or female, gay or straight. Magikiras Magikiras: Don powered armor to fight against terrorists and eldritch beings! Magikiras is a 1,100,000-word story by Gabriel Chia that takes place in a near future where magic and technology exists side by side. Don powered armor as you take on terrorists and eldritch aliens in the not too distant future! Modify your armor to suit your needs and stand tall against your foes. Choose your team and your enemy for different sides of the same story. Play as a normal soldier or one with magic at their command. Modify your powered armor to better suit your needs and preference. These authors developed their games using ChoiceScript , a simple programming language for writing multiple-choice interactive novels like these. Writing games with ChoiceScript is easy and fun, even for authors with no programming experience. Write your own game and we'll publish it for you , giving you a share of the revenue your game produces. P.S. Try "Our Hidden Gems" bundle for iOS! We recently announced that a few of our highest rated games are available in a bundle for iOS. All of our "hidden gems" have earned a 4.5-star rating or better, which tells us that people who bought them were glad they did. Let's give our hidden gems a little extra love! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Fw: Two New Hosted Games: "Scarlet Sails" and "Magikiras"
Two New Hosted Games: "Scarlet Sails" and "Magikiras" - Original Message - From: Choice of Games To: d...@xgam.org Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 8:41 PM Subject: Two New Hosted Games: "Scarlet Sails" and "Magikiras" Download "Scarlet Sails" and "Magikiras" today for iOS, Android, or the Chrome Web Store for Windows, Mac, or Linux. View this email in your browser There are two more games in our Hosted Games program ready for you to play! Scarlet Sails: A fantastical pirate romp on the high seas! Hoist the Jolly Roger and set sail to find the legendary Titan’s Treasure! Do you fight with a cutlass, or with magic? Are you biding your time until you can shoot your captain in the back, or are you the reason the rum is gone? Scarlet Sails is an 80,000-word interactive novel by Felicity Banks, author of Attack of the Clockwork Army. Your choices control the story. It’s entirely text-based–without graphics or sound effects–and fueled by the vast, unstoppable power of your imagination. a.. Enjoy an 80,000 word adventure on the high seas. b.. One of the top ten games in the 2015 Interactive Fiction Competition. c.. Choose your personality, fighting style, and magical skill. d.. Choose who to love, including options for singlehood or polyamory. e.. Face the horrors of your past, and of the deep. f.. Find treasure, treachery, and maybe even true love. g.. Play as male or female, gay or straight. Magikiras: Don powered armor to fight against terrorists and eldritch beings! Magikiras is a 1,100,000-word story by Gabriel Chia that takes place in a near future where magic and technology exists side by side. Don powered armor as you take on terrorists and eldritch aliens in the not too distant future! Modify your armor to suit your needs and stand tall against your foes. a.. Choose your team and your enemy for different sides of the same story. b.. Play as a normal soldier or one with magic at their command. c.. Modify your powered armor to better suit your needs and preference. These authors developed their games using ChoiceScript, a simple programming language for writing multiple-choice interactive novels like these. Writing games with ChoiceScript is easy and fun, even for authors with no programming experience. Write your own game and we’ll publish it for you, giving you a share of the revenue your game produces. P.S. Try "Our Hidden Gems" bundle for iOS! We recently announced that a few of our highest rated games are available in a bundle for iOS. All of our "hidden gems" have earned a 4.5-star rating or better, which tells us that people who bought them were glad they did. Let's give our hidden gems a little extra love! Follow on Steam Follow on Facebook Follow on Twitter Copyright © 2016 Choice of Games LLC, All rights reserved. You are receiving this email because you clicked Subscribe in one of our games and gave us your email address. Our mailing address is: Choice of Games LLC PO 6242 Albany, CA 94706 Add us to your address book unsubscribe from this listupdate subscription preferences No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6189 / Virus Database: 4540/11793 - Release Date: 03/11/16 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audy
Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
Wow, that's horrible. I've not been bullied that much in life, but I've gone through a few relationships where I was just used, so I sort of know how it feels. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:18 AM, loriduncan wrote: > > Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are forewarned > now and know what to look out for. I was bullied when I was about 12 years > old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like walter and used > emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the bullie's side > because they said she had issues. Thankfully though I got out of that school > and was much happier back home. > > From Lori. > > -Original Message- From: Devin Prater > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. > > I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you though. > But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community, > know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do something > worse in the future. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan wrote: >> >> I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a reality >> check. I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can only hope he >> doesn't move onto more victoms. >> >> -Original Message- From: Devin Prater >> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM >> To: Gamers Discussion list >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. >> >> Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like Clok to >> the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, in >>> fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I sent >>> him, which I most certainly didn't do. There was enough evidence against >>> walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done the mature >>> thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still his friend and >>> saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, then put all that >>> crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so imature and have >>> no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick. >>> >>> Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who are >>> on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a lot, >>> especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend. >>> >>> I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a mistake >>> he has made, it'll only take something small like his player base growing >>> smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about this whole >>> thing. >>> From Lori. >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Allison Passino >>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM >>> To: Gamers Discussion list >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. >>> >>> Well, good riddance, and it's good that Sam took the responsibility >>> and banned him. From all you've said, this Walter sounds like a >>> misogynistic, triple stoop moron jerk, who should certainly not be an >>> admin! I'm sorry you and your friend were hurt by him. Stalkers have >>> no life and no true sense of self, else they would not do as they do. >>> Big hugs, and don't let him bother your thoughts any more! >>> On 3/9/16, loriduncan wrote: Yes Swan, I saw that on the topic, thank goodness he's taking it seriously. -Original Message- From: Shaun Everiss Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well sam actually replyed this morning and is handling it don't think he is happy either. > On 10/03/2016 1:54 p.m., loriduncan wrote: > Hi Dark, anyone who flames you should be ashamed of themselves, and I'm > praying I haven't caused you too much stress over this. It just got too > much for me to handle alone, and I was sick of the sleepless nights and > feeling threatened all the time. > > Thanks to everyone who has supported me. >> From Lori. > > -Original Message- From: dark > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:19 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. > > Just to let people know, I have had a couple of people disclose the > details > of Walter's actions in confidence. > I've banned him from audiogames.net, sinse the guy is actively dangerous > in > a criminal way (I'll be getting flamed for this but hay, such is a mods > job > and members need to be safe). > > All the best, > >
Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
Well that really sucks! I am sorry, Lori. I thought that Sam was more sensible, but it is clear that he is not. Well I did think this game was okay; I don't use mac so I didn't care that it was only on Windows, but I shall not be party to a game where good people whom I consider friends are being mistreated, and no lawful, just action is being taken! For that is not honour. Sam is young yet though, and I do hope that he grows the frack up and sees what a chameleon his supposed friend is! And i don't know you well, Lori, but you are a good friend of Bryan Peterson who was my ex, so any good friend of Bryan's is a good friend of mine! Bryan's good people! smile Sorry for the off topic Dark, just wanted Lori to know that I too, am on her side. Both Sam and Walter's conduct is, in my opinion, untenable! And I am officially mad, now. On 3/12/16, loriduncan wrote: > Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are > forewarned now and know what to look out for. I was bullied when I was > about 12 years old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like walter > > and used emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the bullie's > > side because they said she had issues. Thankfully though I got out of that > > school and was much happier back home. > > From Lori. > > -Original Message- > From: Devin Prater > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. > > I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you though. > But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community, > know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do > something worse in the future. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan >> wrote: >> >> I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a >> reality check. I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can only >> >> hope he doesn't move onto more victoms. >> >> -Original Message- From: Devin Prater >> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM >> To: Gamers Discussion list >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. >> >> Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like Clok >> >> to the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, in >>> >>> fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I >>> sent him, which I most certainly didn't do. There was enough evidence >>> against walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done >>> the mature thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still his >>> >>> friend and saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, then >>> >>> put all that crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so >>> imature and have no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick. >>> >>> Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who >>> are on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a lot, >>> >>> especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend. >>> >>> I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a >>> mistake he has made, it'll only take something small like his player base >>> >>> growing smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about >>> this whole thing. >>> From Lori. >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Allison Passino >>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM >>> To: Gamers Discussion list >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. >>> >>> Well, good riddance, and it's good that Sam took the responsibility >>> and banned him. From all you've said, this Walter sounds like a >>> misogynistic, triple stoop moron jerk, who should certainly not be an >>> admin! I'm sorry you and your friend were hurt by him. Stalkers have >>> no life and no true sense of self, else they would not do as they do. >>> Big hugs, and don't let him bother your thoughts any more! >>> On 3/9/16, loriduncan wrote: Yes Swan, I saw that on the topic, thank goodness he's taking it seriously. -Original Message- From: Shaun Everiss Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well sam actually replyed this morning and is handling it don't think he is happy either. > On 10/03/2016 1:54 p.m., loriduncan wrote: > Hi Dark, anyone who flames you should be ashamed of themselves, and > I'm > praying I haven't caused you too much stress over this. It just got > too > much for me to handle alone, and I was sick of the sleepless nights > and > feeling threatened all the time. >>>
Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
Guess it's a good thing I was never interested in that game. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:18 AM, loriduncan wrote: > > Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are forewarned > now and know what to look out for. I was bullied when I was about 12 years > old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like walter and used > emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the bullie's side > because they said she had issues. Thankfully though I got out of that school > and was much happier back home. > > From Lori. > > -Original Message- From: Devin Prater > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. > > I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you though. > But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community, > know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do something > worse in the future. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan wrote: >> >> I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a reality >> check. I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can only hope he >> doesn't move onto more victoms. >> >> -Original Message- From: Devin Prater >> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM >> To: Gamers Discussion list >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. >> >> Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like Clok to >> the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, in >>> fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I sent >>> him, which I most certainly didn't do. There was enough evidence against >>> walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done the mature >>> thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still his friend and >>> saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, then put all that >>> crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so imature and have >>> no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick. >>> >>> Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who are >>> on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a lot, >>> especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend. >>> >>> I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a mistake >>> he has made, it'll only take something small like his player base growing >>> smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about this whole >>> thing. >>> From Lori. >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Allison Passino >>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM >>> To: Gamers Discussion list >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. >>> >>> Well, good riddance, and it's good that Sam took the responsibility >>> and banned him. From all you've said, this Walter sounds like a >>> misogynistic, triple stoop moron jerk, who should certainly not be an >>> admin! I'm sorry you and your friend were hurt by him. Stalkers have >>> no life and no true sense of self, else they would not do as they do. >>> Big hugs, and don't let him bother your thoughts any more! >>> On 3/9/16, loriduncan wrote: Yes Swan, I saw that on the topic, thank goodness he's taking it seriously. -Original Message- From: Shaun Everiss Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well sam actually replyed this morning and is handling it don't think he is happy either. > On 10/03/2016 1:54 p.m., loriduncan wrote: > Hi Dark, anyone who flames you should be ashamed of themselves, and I'm > praying I haven't caused you too much stress over this. It just got too > much for me to handle alone, and I was sick of the sleepless nights and > feeling threatened all the time. > > Thanks to everyone who has supported me. >> From Lori. > > -Original Message- From: dark > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:19 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. > > Just to let people know, I have had a couple of people disclose the > details > of Walter's actions in confidence. > I've banned him from audiogames.net, sinse the guy is actively dangerous > in > a criminal way (I'll be getting flamed for this but hay, such is a mods > job > and members need to be safe). > > All the best, > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to l
[Audyssey] new games?
Hi. I was wondering if there are any new games? I have undead assault and of course oriol's games. Are there anymore? Thanks. Jess --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming
So, I use this software to write my code and have the Python compiler/other associated programs installed? Once I get a piece of code ready for testing, I can run the compiler from Ed Sharp? Is this how this works? On 3/8/16, jacob Kruger wrote: > http://www.empowermentzone.com/edsetup.exe > > And: > http://empowermentzone.com/EdSharp.htm > > And, yes, I use it for both python and PHP/javascript web-dev, with both > jaws and NVDA. > > Stay well > Jacob Kruger > Blind Biker > Skype: BlindZA > "Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..." > > On 2016-03-08 5:00 PM, Justin Jones wrote: >> I have never heard of it. Details, please. >> >> On 3/8/16, Devin Prater wrote: >>> EdSharp, the text-editor for programmers, should work fine with Jaws. On Mar 8, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Justin Jones wrote: I guess the final consideration for me is which programming language plays the nicest with JAWS? As a corollary to that consideration, how much overhead is required to make the development environment play nicely? On 3/8/16, Devin Prater wrote: > I’m not surprised. Just use a mainstream language, that way you’ll get > all > the support you need, because coding can be done anywhere, and is plain > text. >> On Mar 8, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Justin Jones >> wrote: >> >> I cannot get Quorrum to work. I reinstalled my Java nonsense and >> played around with a couple of other things, but it will not play >> nicely with JAWS. It is supposed to, but it does not. >> >> >> >> On 3/8/16, Devin Prater wrote: >>> My programming class in school was on a languages called Quorum. It >>> was >>> made >>> specifically for blind people, but the IDE it uses is some mainstream >>> one >>> with accessibility features slapped uncleanly on top of it, so yeah, >>> not >>> all >>> that nice. On Mar 8, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Justin Jones wrote: I remember Pascal... That was a long time ago, though, as I took a programming class in high school and that was the language that we started with. I'll go take a look at Powerbasic's web site before I make up my mind, vis-à-vis which language I will try and learn. On 3/7/16, Travis Siegel wrote: > There's a reason powerbasic has the word power in it's name. If > you > want > to know everything it can do, go read their web page, they have a > complete > feature set, and you can even download the manuals if you like, and > read > them in full before ever purchasing the product. I'm not much of a > windows user anymore, and haven't been for more than 10 years, but > when > I > do need windows work done, I almost always yank out my powerbasic > compiler > to do the work, because it's so simple to do it. You can create > internet > servers with something like 3 or 4 lines of code (they have samples > that > come with the compiler) and you can build res files that include > all > your > graphics and sounds, that get distributed with your programs, and > even > compile those res files into the executable, so there's no need to > distribute extra files just to make your game work. One single > executable, with all the sounds, graphics, icons, and anything else > you > need for your program to work, and nobody needs to download > anything > except one single executable file. I know you can do that with > other > languages too, but it's such a difficult process, folks rarely > bother > to > do this, with powerbasic, it's as simple as creating a text file > with > the > filenames, and running the reseditor on it. That's all there is to > it. > For an example of this, go check out the battleship game I released > back > in 2002, (I think it's still at > http://www.nfbcal.org/tsiegel/battle10.exe) and see what I mean. > That > has > a single executable file, and all sounds are included, and the > entire > game > is still only a couple hundred K in size. I recently wrote a > memory > game > for the raspberry pi, and with all the sounds, it's a hundred > megabytes > or > morein size, and each one of the sound files needs to be present > for > the > game to work, because res files don't exist on linux. :) > The plus to that is that you can replace the sounds with ones of > your > choice, so that does help, but still, for ease of use, for windows > programming, I've never found anythin
Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming
What does this have to do with programming? On 3/8/16, Devin Prater wrote: > It is a free text editor that works directly with screen readers. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 8, 2016, at 9:00 AM, Justin Jones wrote: >> >> I have never heard of it. Details, please. >> >>> On 3/8/16, Devin Prater wrote: >>> EdSharp, the text-editor for programmers, should work fine with Jaws. On Mar 8, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Justin Jones wrote: I guess the final consideration for me is which programming language plays the nicest with JAWS? As a corollary to that consideration, how much overhead is required to make the development environment play nicely? > On 3/8/16, Devin Prater wrote: > I’m not surprised. Just use a mainstream language, that way you’ll get > all > the support you need, because coding can be done anywhere, and is plain > text. >> On Mar 8, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Justin Jones >> wrote: >> >> I cannot get Quorrum to work. I reinstalled my Java nonsense and >> played around with a couple of other things, but it will not play >> nicely with JAWS. It is supposed to, but it does not. >> >> >> >>> On 3/8/16, Devin Prater wrote: >>> My programming class in school was on a languages called Quorum. It >>> was >>> made >>> specifically for blind people, but the IDE it uses is some mainstream >>> one >>> with accessibility features slapped uncleanly on top of it, so yeah, >>> not >>> all >>> that nice. On Mar 8, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Justin Jones wrote: I remember Pascal... That was a long time ago, though, as I took a programming class in high school and that was the language that we started with. I'll go take a look at Powerbasic's web site before I make up my mind, vis-à-vis which language I will try and learn. > On 3/7/16, Travis Siegel wrote: > There's a reason powerbasic has the word power in it's name. If > you > want > to know everything it can do, go read their web page, they have a > complete > feature set, and you can even download the manuals if you like, and > read > them in full before ever purchasing the product. I'm not much of a > windows user anymore, and haven't been for more than 10 years, but > when > I > do need windows work done, I almost always yank out my powerbasic > compiler > to do the work, because it's so simple to do it. You can create > internet > servers with something like 3 or 4 lines of code (they have samples > that > come with the compiler) and you can build res files that include > all > your > graphics and sounds, that get distributed with your programs, and > even > compile those res files into the executable, so there's no need to > distribute extra files just to make your game work. One single > executable, with all the sounds, graphics, icons, and anything else > you > need for your program to work, and nobody needs to download > anything > except one single executable file. I know you can do that with > other > languages too, but it's such a difficult process, folks rarely > bother > to > do this, with powerbasic, it's as simple as creating a text file > with > the > filenames, and running the reseditor on it. That's all there is to > it. > For an example of this, go check out the battleship game I released > back > in 2002, (I think it's still at > http://www.nfbcal.org/tsiegel/battle10.exe) and see what I mean. > That > has > a single executable file, and all sounds are included, and the > entire > game > is still only a couple hundred K in size. I recently wrote a > memory > game > for the raspberry pi, and with all the sounds, it's a hundred > megabytes > or > morein size, and each one of the sound files needs to be present > for > the > game to work, because res files don't exist on linux. :) > The plus to that is that you can replace the sounds with ones of > your > choice, so that does help, but still, for ease of use, for windows > programming, I've never found anything easier. > On OSX (at least early versions of 10.4 and 10.5) Java was my > language > of > choice, because it could build guis with almost no effort, and for > my > raspberry pi, I use either C or pascal, (depending on what I'm > doing), > but > on windows, I keep going back to powerbasic, because it's so darned
Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming
You won't get any Mac users with it though, and that user base is always growing. Sent from Outlook Mobile >From Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 12:47 PM -0800, "Justin Jones" wrote: That's a good question: just how much can one do with Powerbasic? Perhaps I ought to ask, what limitations does it have? On 3/7/16, Tobias Vinteus wrote: > Howabout sound programming, gamepad programming etc? Does Powerbasic hav > any support for that. The real advantage wiht advanced languages like > these would probably be all the 3d sound rendering and force > feedback/immersion stuff that they support. > > > On Mon, 7 Mar 2016, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> I know most folks will direct you to c, c++, java, python, and various >> other >> pieces of software/languages for your development, but as I've said >> before, >> and as I'll no doubt say again, for simplicity, and ease of use, and >> maximum >> compatibility, you can't beat powerbasic. It's produced by a company >> called >> powerbasic, and they have both console and graphics versions of the >> compiler. >> By default, any code compiled on powerbasic will run on every single >> version >> of windows, from win95 right up through win10. You can't beat that for >> compatibility. It's also about 90 percent compatible with quickbasic and >> >> even gwbasic, which makes porting those old programs you have lying around >> >> extremely simple. It also produces programs that require no external dlls >> >> (unless you use them yourself for program features) and it produces small >> >> fast executables. Even the hello world program is only a few K, which in >> >> this day and age is phenomenal, considering visual basic and visual C >> require >> megabytes for the same program. >> The new versions are $169 or $199 (depending on whether you want the >> console >> or graphic version of the compiler) and an older version of the compiler >> (referred to as powerbasic classic) sells for just $99). You can't beat >> that >> either, considering they still actively develop and support powerbasic. >> I've >> used it for years in my windows programming, and never once regretted it. >> If you want to get into programming, and you want it to be dead simple, >> then >> powerbasic is definitely something you should take a look at. >> Heh, and just for reference, they even still sell (and support) a version >> of >> powerbasic for dos, that sells for $99. How's that for dedicated. >> >> >> On Fri, 4 Mar 2016, Justin Jones wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I want to get into learning how to program, but I am a bit overwhelmed >>> as to where I ought to start. I have done some programming in the >>> past, but that was years ago, so I would just as soon as start from >>> the beginning, rather than attempting to recollect old knowledge on >>> the subject. >>> >>> There are two objectives that I have in mind, provided I can pick up >>> the knack of writing code: >>> >>> 1. The more realistic goal of creating a Dungeons and Dragons (5th >>> Edition) character sheet creator for us blind folks. There are ones >>> out there on the Interwebs, but they are either inaccessible or are >>> incomplete, i.e. they lack all available options for character >>> creation. >>> >>> 2. My ultimate ambition is to try and learn to create good >>> role-playing games for the blind. From what I have been able to >>> deduce, we have a very limited selection. Again, this latter reason is >>> more of a dream, but I am willing to attempt to put in the work to try >>> and realize it. >>> >>> This leads me to my questions for all of you who can best direct me: >>> >>> 1. What is a good programming language to learn? Where can I find the >>> necessary components to begin? What do I need to do in order to make >>> things accessible? Please note that I am a JAWS user. >>> >>> 2. What guides/books/tutorials ought I to read? >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> >>> -- >>> Justin M. Jones, M.A. >>> atreides...@gmail.com >>> (254) 624-9155 >>> 701 Ewing St. #509-C, Ft. Wayne IN, 46802 >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any
Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming
Hi Justin, Sorry I've never used Python , so I can't really help as I've only ever used BGT. Although like someone else said where python is its own language I guess you'd have more flexibility with what you could do with python once you've learnt it Paul -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Justin Jones Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 7:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming So, all of this brings me back to my previous question: BGT or Python? On 3/6/16, Paul Lemm wrote: > Hi Bryan, > > Think that's exactly what got me into programming in the first place as it > would be great to see more RPG style games and I'd love to say I've > created > my own game that people are actually playing. > > Paul > > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan > Peterson > Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:44 PM > To: 'Gamers Discussion list' > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming > > I agree. I'd love to see more audio RPG's. I have a certain degree of > creativity but the programming knowledge not so much. > > > > Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. > -Original Message- > From: Paul Lemm > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 4:16 AM > To: 'Gamers Discussion list' > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming > > Hi Justin, > > Yes bgt is designed for people to make audio games or programs so works > perfectly with jaws. I agree totally with you about the lack of RPG games, > before I lost my sight I was a huge Final fantasy fan, the last one I got > to > play before I lost my sight was final fantasy 10, it's such a shame these > games aren't more accessible as I'd love to play them again or some of the > new ones. Although it is for this reason I started to learn BGT as I > wanted > to write my own RPG, and through learning BGT have started to build my own > little RPG, it's only a couple of levels at the moment and I don't think it > will ever be some amazing audio game (but that's more down to my lack of > imagination when it comes to building storylines, but hoping I can get a > friend who writes to help out on that front), but it shows it can be done > and all with no previous programming knowledge and just using BGT, but I > think with enough determination and imagination it can be done. As for the > character sheets you are talking about I've never done actual role play /D > and D so not really too sure exactly what these are or what they would > contain, so not 100% sure if you could build what you wanted with BGT , > but I don't see why not. There is a BGT forum which has some really helpful > people all with a lot more experience than me in programming with BGT, if > you say what you're trying to build with the character sheets I'm sure > people would let you know if it's achievable. BGT is free to download too, > , I recommend downloading it and taking a look, then reading the help > manual it's got a tutorial section which has an introduction page, then a > page on learning the language which is explained really really well and > then some example games you can write > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Justin Jones > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 11:09 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming > > Does BGT play well with JAWS? If so, how much is involved in making it > play well? Finally, is BGT only for game development? > > I figured that I had better start with a more reasonable goal, i.e. > trying to learn enough on how to code to try and write a character > sheet creator. If I can learn the knack of coding, then that would be, > I think, a first good attempt at a real project. > > Down the road, as I indicated in my original post, I would want to try > to create a role-playing game. It frustrates me that sighted users > have a multitude of role-playing games that they can play, e.g. > Pillars of Eternity, Skyrim and so on, but we cannot. I have played > some mainstream role-playing games (it takes some work, but I can > manage) and that is why I wish to try and learn how to code. Put > differently, I can complain about the lack of games, or try and learn > how to code and write one. Even if I fail, i.e. I cannot learn the > knack of coding, then I can say that I made the attempt. > > > On 3/4/16, jacob Kruger wrote: >> Justin, I am a programmer, and keep meaning to get around to sorting out >> a character sheet managent app - the flavour me and my friends play is >> called/based on runeQuest, so would want to sort out a more generic form >> of wrapper that could be used for multiple forms of RPG - as in, maybe >> use more generic forms of category, range, application/implementation >> categories, etc. etc. - hope am making some snese. >> >> Either way, besides web development, my other focus area is py
Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming
I really think it comes down to personal preference and what you feel comfortable learning. Imyself have as yet produced nothing but I've managed to accomplish more with BGT than I ever did with the other options I looked into. With BGT all you basically have to do is tell it what you want it to do and when and where the various music, sound and speech files are located while the engine handles all the behind the scenes stuff. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Justin Jones Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 12:33 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming So, all of this brings me back to my previous question: BGT or Python? On 3/6/16, Paul Lemm wrote: Hi Bryan, Think that's exactly what got me into programming in the first place as it would be great to see more RPG style games and I'd love to say I've created my own game that people are actually playing. Paul -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:44 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming I agree. I'd love to see more audio RPG's. I have a certain degree of creativity but the programming knowledge not so much. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Paul Lemm Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 4:16 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming Hi Justin, Yes bgt is designed for people to make audio games or programs so works perfectly with jaws. I agree totally with you about the lack of RPG games, before I lost my sight I was a huge Final fantasy fan, the last one I got to play before I lost my sight was final fantasy 10, it's such a shame these games aren't more accessible as I'd love to play them again or some of the new ones. Although it is for this reason I started to learn BGT as I wanted to write my own RPG, and through learning BGT have started to build my own little RPG, it's only a couple of levels at the moment and I don't think it will ever be some amazing audio game (but that's more down to my lack of imagination when it comes to building storylines, but hoping I can get a friend who writes to help out on that front), but it shows it can be done and all with no previous programming knowledge and just using BGT, but I think with enough determination and imagination it can be done. As for the character sheets you are talking about I've never done actual role play /D and D so not really too sure exactly what these are or what they would contain, so not 100% sure if you could build what you wanted with BGT , but I don't see why not. There is a BGT forum which has some really helpful people all with a lot more experience than me in programming with BGT, if you say what you're trying to build with the character sheets I'm sure people would let you know if it's achievable. BGT is free to download too, , I recommend downloading it and taking a look, then reading the help manual it's got a tutorial section which has an introduction page, then a page on learning the language which is explained really really well and then some example games you can write Paul -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Justin Jones Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 11:09 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming Does BGT play well with JAWS? If so, how much is involved in making it play well? Finally, is BGT only for game development? I figured that I had better start with a more reasonable goal, i.e. trying to learn enough on how to code to try and write a character sheet creator. If I can learn the knack of coding, then that would be, I think, a first good attempt at a real project. Down the road, as I indicated in my original post, I would want to try to create a role-playing game. It frustrates me that sighted users have a multitude of role-playing games that they can play, e.g. Pillars of Eternity, Skyrim and so on, but we cannot. I have played some mainstream role-playing games (it takes some work, but I can manage) and that is why I wish to try and learn how to code. Put differently, I can complain about the lack of games, or try and learn how to code and write one. Even if I fail, i.e. I cannot learn the knack of coding, then I can say that I made the attempt. On 3/4/16, jacob Kruger wrote: Justin, I am a programmer, and keep meaning to get around to sorting out a character sheet managent app - the flavour me and my friends play is called/based on runeQuest, so would want to sort out a more generic form of wrapper that could be used for multiple forms of RPG - as in, maybe use more generic forms of category, range, application/implementation categories, etc. etc. - hope am making some snese. Either way, besides web development, my other focus area is
Re: [Audyssey] more darkness? - Re: the future of this listandtheaudyssey domain.
Hi Dark, Hahaha, I love that in your first line you put we're not really extroverts, then in the next line put but we're thinking about going down the aisle phantom of the opera style, that's pretty outgoing as I see it! But that does sound a fantastic way to tie the knot. Well, hopefully the fact your both from different countries doesn't cause you to much hassle getting it all sorted. You said you are now living together, do you mind me asking does this mean you are living out in America these days or are you still over here in the UK? Paul -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:17 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] more darkness? - Re: the future of this listandtheaudyssey domain. Hi Paul. Neither will be a huge affair sinse neither the future mrs. Dark nor me is exactly an extravert, but we do want to do fun things, (perhaps go down the isle and Phantom and Christine from Phantom of the opera, though with the right ending this time :D). The hard part at the moment is the legality of trying to marry an American, but we'll do it. On an emotional front my lady's sister actually started referring to me as her husband in December, actually before we got engaged and bought the rings, it's just having the ceremony and signing the paper work. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: "Paul Lemm" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] more darkness? - Re: the future of this listandtheaudyssey domain. >2 weddings? Now that's just gready lol . although to be fair hats off to > you, I remember organising my own wedding and just planning 1 was enough > work for me! > > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 4:35 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] more darkness? - Re: the future of this list > andtheaudyssey domain. > > Thanks Paul. > > "about" means when we can arrange and get around the cross country > confusion, indeed we'll need two weddings, one in the states one here > sinse we both have parents and friends who want to come and can't fly. > Practically speaking we actually have regarded ourselves as married for > quite a while, indeed my lady's sister was describing me as "her husband" > back in early december before we got engaged (she saw which way the wind > was > > blowing). > > Congrats are however much appreciated. > > All the best, > > Dark. > - Original Message - > From: "Paul Lemm" > To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 4:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] more darkness? - Re: the future of this list > andtheaudyssey domain. > > >> Well even with all the sad news regarding Thomas, it's great to hear that >> you are about to get married , , so congratulations >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark >> Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 3:08 PM >> To: Charles Rivard; Gamers Discussion list >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] more darkness? - Re: the future of this list and >> theaudyssey domain. >> >> Thanks Charlese. >> I'm not sure on additions to the darkness, but there is now a dark angel, >> or >> >> at least a dark's angel, and it's a bit more than all the best, more a >> miracle. >> >> While obviously sad news has been heard today, your congratulations are >> much >> >> appreciated, actually i forgot I'd not mentioned my lady on list >> before. >> >> All the best, >> >> Dark. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Charles Rivard" >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 2:46 PM >> Subject: [Audyssey] more darkness? - Re: the future of this list and >> theaudyssey domain. >> >> >>> I'm going through my inbox this morning and have found a flood of mail >>> concerning the apparent death of Thomas Ward??? I'm sure that I will >>> find >> >>> more pertaining to this thread, as well as some that does not. With >>> this >>> in mind, I have changed to an appropriate subject line before saying a >>> hearty congrats to Dark and, apparently, an addition to the Darkness. >>> You >> >>> always say, "All the best.", so I hope that's exactly what you receive. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!! >>> -Original Message- >>> From: dark >>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 6:37 AM >>> To: Gamers Discussion list >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the future of this list and the audyssey domain. >>> >>> Hi Ron. >>> >>> Well legally she isn't mrs. Dark yet, but we got engaged three days >>> before >>> Christmas and have been living together practically sinse November. >>> That's one reason I've been less around of late sinse my time is rather >>> taken up with other things. >>> >>> It's frankly a miracle and I am amazed every morning by my lady,
Re: [Audyssey] The last messages from Thomas Ward
Ok, I'm back. Haven't been on here for a long time, but just found out the Tom Ward has passed away. Sad new in deed. Tom was a great game developer, and were it not for his health I'm pretty sure he would've very well been able to finish them. Also, he was an activate member of the open source community of linux users, and he's actually the reason I went ahead and tried ubuntu. As for William's comment about the money spent for these games, might I remind you that whether the games were finished or not, the money spent for them went into supporting a game that could've very well been finished. Had Tom been still living, there'd be two possibilities. The games would've gotten finished, or if Tom had to close usa games, either the last build of the games would be distributed, or refunds would be issued, whatever Tom wanted to do. Either way I can't see how you can look at this news and say where's my money, that's probably the most selfish reaction I've heard. I didn't pay for any of the games since I wasn't made aware of audio games till 2009, thus not around when preorders were taken. But even if I did pay for them, I wouldn't regret it in the slightest, even knowing that the games now are in the air as far as completion is concerned. So rest in peace Tom, and hopefully someone somewhere can pick up where he left off, and even if someone can't, we can at least pick up his legacy by making more games in general, and even making some for linux since that is not only something Tom would've wanted to do, but would be a revolution for linux users looking for games. best regards Jack On 3/4/16, loriduncan wrote: > You make me sick William, stop being so selfish and pathetic and think of > others, the guy has just died for goodness sake! This isn't like where you > > give money to a project and the developers are still around but just being > lazy! Think about it. > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Chesworth > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 4:51 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The last messages from Thomas Ward > > Wow, what a classy thread this is. > > I'm no expert, but I guess what happens now is that blind people play > games coded in VB6 forever more. As for the money... nope... I can't > quite go low enough to crack wise about that particular bit of > shamefulness. > > Thoughts going out to anyone who knew Tom. The chap was way, way too > young. Sad times. > > > On 3/4/16, william Lomas wrote: >> will no-one be able now, to finish these projects? they are games for >> which >> our money has been taken, yet failed attempts to deliver the final >> products >> so many of us have put money in to games, that we will sadly never see >> now. >> what happens about this? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 4 Mar 2016, at 13:20, Phil Vlasak wrote: >>> >>> I am devastated that Thomas Ward passed away. I went through my saved >>> messages and found the last few from him >>> I also got this about his games from Thomas Ward's web site: >>> USA Games Interactive >>> http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/ >>> >>> In 1985 USA Games president and founder, Thomas Ward, discovered he >>> >>> had an eye disease called Optic Atrophy. Over the following years the >>> >>> disease damaged his optic nerves leaving Thomas blinded for life. >>> >>> However, prier to losing his vision he had time to enjoy many classic >>> >>> video games including such titles >>> as: Packman, Space Invaders, Double Dragon, Star Wars, Tomb Raider, >>> >>> and more. He dreamed one day to make his own games he himself could >>> >>> play even though >>> he was blind. >>> >>> In the fall of 1997 Thomas Ward entered college at Wright State >>> >>> University located in Dayton Ohio. While at Wright State Thomas began >>> >>> taking courses in >>> computer science. Two of his favorite fields were software design and >>> >>> computer network administration. He knew almost from the beginning he >>> >>> wanted to design >>> software made for people with blindness and other physical >>> >>> disabilities. >>> >>> In the spring of 2004 Thomas ward founded USA Games Entertainment. A >>> >>> privately owned online game company dedicated to making audio games >>> >>> for the blind and >>> low vision driven by sound rather than graphics. His first accessible >>> >>> audio game for Microsoft Windows was Final Conflict, and soon many >>> >>> more were in production >>> as well >>> >>> In the spring of 2006 USA Games took over production of Alchemy Game >>> >>> Studios' Montezuma's Revenge and Raceway projects.Both projects have >>> >>> increased interest >>> in USA Games's products, and have been updated with new features, >>> >>> sound effects, ideas, and have been made better than before. >>> >>> In addition to games USA Games founder, Thomas Ward, has been active >>> >>> in the testing, research, and development of open source accessibility >>> >>> technologies >>> for FreeBSD, Linux, and Solaris operating systems. In the future
Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming
Hi, I'd love to see something like this become available , as it would allow even people with no real programing knowledge to create their own RPG games. Hopefully if entombed 2 has the dungeon creator it will be a small step towards people being able to make their own games. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Justin Jones Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 12:14 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming What I think would be awesome is a blindy version of the Aurora Toolset that was released with the original Never Winter Nights computer game (God, was that really released, when? 2001? 2002?). Never Winter Nights, for those of you who do not know, was a computer role-playing game released by Bioware that used the 3rd edition Dungeons and Dragons rules. The single-player campaign was rather dull, actually, but it was meant more to be a sort of showcase for what the user could do. Bioware released identical development tools for the customer to create their own Dungeons and Dragons adventures/campaigns. The beauty of Aurora (that was the name of both the game engine and the toolset) was its ease of use. To this day, I think that is the most user-friendly development kit I have ever seen for a computer game. On 3/5/16, Bryan Peterson wrote: > I agree. I'd love to see more audio RPG's. I have a certain degree of > creativity but the programming knowledge not so much. > > > > Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. > -Original Message- > From: Paul Lemm > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 4:16 AM > To: 'Gamers Discussion list' > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming > > Hi Justin, > > Yes bgt is designed for people to make audio games or programs so works > perfectly with jaws. I agree totally with you about the lack of RPG games, > before I lost my sight I was a huge Final fantasy fan, the last one I got > to > play before I lost my sight was final fantasy 10, it's such a shame these > games aren't more accessible as I'd love to play them again or some of the > new ones. Although it is for this reason I started to learn BGT as I > wanted > to write my own RPG, and through learning BGT have started to build my own > little RPG, it's only a couple of levels at the moment and I don't think it > will ever be some amazing audio game (but that's more down to my lack of > imagination when it comes to building storylines, but hoping I can get a > friend who writes to help out on that front), but it shows it can be done > and all with no previous programming knowledge and just using BGT, but I > think with enough determination and imagination it can be done. As for the > character sheets you are talking about I've never done actual role play /D > and D so not really too sure exactly what these are or what they would > contain, so not 100% sure if you could build what you wanted with BGT , > but I don't see why not. There is a BGT forum which has some really helpful > people all with a lot more experience than me in programming with BGT, if > you say what you're trying to build with the character sheets I'm sure > people would let you know if it's achievable. BGT is free to download too, > , I recommend downloading it and taking a look, then reading the help > manual it's got a tutorial section which has an introduction page, then a > page on learning the language which is explained really really well and > then some example games you can write > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Justin Jones > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 11:09 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming > > Does BGT play well with JAWS? If so, how much is involved in making it > play well? Finally, is BGT only for game development? > > I figured that I had better start with a more reasonable goal, i.e. > trying to learn enough on how to code to try and write a character > sheet creator. If I can learn the knack of coding, then that would be, > I think, a first good attempt at a real project. > > Down the road, as I indicated in my original post, I would want to try > to create a role-playing game. It frustrates me that sighted users > have a multitude of role-playing games that they can play, e.g. > Pillars of Eternity, Skyrim and so on, but we cannot. I have played > some mainstream role-playing games (it takes some work, but I can > manage) and that is why I wish to try and learn how to code. Put > differently, I can complain about the lack of games, or try and learn > how to code and write one. Even if I fail, i.e. I cannot learn the > knack of coding, then I can say that I made the attempt. > > > On 3/4/16, jacob Kruger wrote: >> Justin, I am a programmer, and keep meaning to get around to sorting out >> a character sheet managent app - the flavour me and my friends play is >> called/based on runeQuest, so would w
Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming
Which mud is this? No, Never Winter Nights is not accessible as you need working eyes to create the maps for each area. You also need eyes to create custom equipment and the like. As I said, it would be nice if there was a similar set of dev tools that would do something similar. On 3/5/16, Shaun Everiss wrote: > did this game never winter nights ever get accessable? > > > > On 6/03/2016 1:13 p.m., Justin Jones wrote: >> What I think would be awesome is a blindy version of the Aurora >> Toolset that was released with the original Never Winter Nights >> computer game (God, was that really released, when? 2001? 2002?). >> Never Winter Nights, for those of you who do not know, was a computer >> role-playing game released by Bioware that used the 3rd edition >> Dungeons and Dragons rules. The single-player campaign was rather >> dull, actually, but it was meant more to be a sort of showcase for >> what the user could do. Bioware released identical development tools >> for the customer to create their own Dungeons and Dragons >> adventures/campaigns. The beauty of Aurora (that was the name of both >> the game engine and the toolset) was its ease of use. To this day, I >> think that is the most user-friendly development kit I have ever seen >> for a computer game. >> >> >> >> On 3/5/16, Bryan Peterson wrote: >>> I agree. I'd love to see more audio RPG's. I have a certain degree of >>> creativity but the programming knowledge not so much. >>> >>> >>> >>> Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Paul Lemm >>> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 4:16 AM >>> To: 'Gamers Discussion list' >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming >>> >>> Hi Justin, >>> >>> Yes bgt is designed for people to make audio games or programs so works >>> perfectly with jaws. I agree totally with you about the lack of RPG >>> games, >>> before I lost my sight I was a huge Final fantasy fan, the last one I >>> got >>> to >>> play before I lost my sight was final fantasy 10, it's such a shame >>> these >>> games aren't more accessible as I'd love to play them again or some of >>> the >>> new ones. Although it is for this reason I started to learn BGT as I >>> wanted >>> to write my own RPG, and through learning BGT have started to build my >>> own >>> little RPG, it's only a couple of levels at the moment and I don't think >>> it >>> will ever be some amazing audio game (but that's more down to my lack of >>> imagination when it comes to building storylines, but hoping I can get a >>> friend who writes to help out on that front), but it shows it can be >>> done >>> and all with no previous programming knowledge and just using BGT, but I >>> think with enough determination and imagination it can be done. As for >>> the >>> character sheets you are talking about I've never done actual role play >>> /D >>> and D so not really too sure exactly what these are or what they would >>> contain, so not 100% sure if you could build what you wanted with BGT >>> , >>> but I don't see why not. There is a BGT forum which has some really >>> helpful >>> people all with a lot more experience than me in programming with BGT, >>> if >>> you say what you're trying to build with the character sheets I'm sure >>> people would let you know if it's achievable. BGT is free to download >>> too, >>> , I recommend downloading it and taking a look, then reading the help >>> manual it's got a tutorial section which has an introduction page, then >>> a >>> page on learning the language which is explained really really well >>> and >>> then some example games you can write >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Justin >>> Jones >>> Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 11:09 PM >>> To: Gamers Discussion list >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming >>> >>> Does BGT play well with JAWS? If so, how much is involved in making it >>> play well? Finally, is BGT only for game development? >>> >>> I figured that I had better start with a more reasonable goal, i.e. >>> trying to learn enough on how to code to try and write a character >>> sheet creator. If I can learn the knack of coding, then that would be, >>> I think, a first good attempt at a real project. >>> >>> Down the road, as I indicated in my original post, I would want to try >>> to create a role-playing game. It frustrates me that sighted users >>> have a multitude of role-playing games that they can play, e.g. >>> Pillars of Eternity, Skyrim and so on, but we cannot. I have played >>> some mainstream role-playing games (it takes some work, but I can >>> manage) and that is why I wish to try and learn how to code. Put >>> differently, I can complain about the lack of games, or try and learn >>> how to code and write one. Even if I fail, i.e. I cannot learn the >>> knack of coding, then I can say that I made the attempt. >>> >>> >>> On 3/4/16, jacob Kruger wrote: Justin, I
Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
It's been a really bad situation, not tjust what has gone on on survive the wild, but off it, and frankly I banned Walter from the audiogames.net forum because the guy is dangerous (I've had pms from several people detailing some pretty nasty stuff he's done). Usually we wouldn't involve the forum in this sort of thing but this was an issue of safety, I'm just sorry Sam can't see the bigger picture,but there you go, not everyone is equal and that's why moderation is needed. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are forewarned now and know what to look out for. I was bullied when I was about 12 years old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like walter and used emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the bullie's side because they said she had issues. Thankfully though I got out of that school and was much happier back home. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you though. But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community, know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do something worse in the future. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan wrote: I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a reality check. I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can only hope he doesn't move onto more victoms. -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like Clok to the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan wrote: Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, in fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I sent him, which I most certainly didn't do. There was enough evidence against walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done the mature thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still his friend and saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, then put all that crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so imature and have no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick. Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who are on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a lot, especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend. I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a mistake he has made, it'll only take something small like his player base growing smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about this whole thing. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Allison Passino Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well, good riddance, and it's good that Sam took the responsibility and banned him. From all you've said, this Walter sounds like a misogynistic, triple stoop moron jerk, who should certainly not be an admin! I'm sorry you and your friend were hurt by him. Stalkers have no life and no true sense of self, else they would not do as they do. Big hugs, and don't let him bother your thoughts any more! On 3/9/16, loriduncan wrote: Yes Swan, I saw that on the topic, thank goodness he's taking it seriously. -Original Message- From: Shaun Everiss Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Well sam actually replyed this morning and is handling it don't think he is happy either. On 10/03/2016 1:54 p.m., loriduncan wrote: Hi Dark, anyone who flames you should be ashamed of themselves, and I'm praying I haven't caused you too much stress over this. It just got too much for me to handle alone, and I was sick of the sleepless nights and feeling threatened all the time. Thanks to everyone who has supported me. From Lori. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:19 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Just to let people know, I have had a couple of people disclose the details of Walter's actions in confidence. I've banned him from audiogames.net, sinse the guy is actively dangerous in a criminal way (I'll be getting flamed for this but hay, such is a mods job and members need to be safe). All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscripti
Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you though. But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community, know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do something worse in the future. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan wrote: > > I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a reality > check. I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can only hope he > doesn't move onto more victoms. > > -Original Message- From: Devin Prater > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. > > Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like Clok to > the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan wrote: >> >> Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, in >> fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I sent >> him, which I most certainly didn't do. There was enough evidence against >> walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done the mature >> thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still his friend and >> saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, then put all that >> crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so imature and have >> no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick. >> >> Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who are >> on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a lot, >> especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend. >> >> I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a mistake >> he has made, it'll only take something small like his player base growing >> smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about this whole >> thing. >> From Lori. >> >> -Original Message- From: Allison Passino >> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM >> To: Gamers Discussion list >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. >> >> Well, good riddance, and it's good that Sam took the responsibility >> and banned him. From all you've said, this Walter sounds like a >> misogynistic, triple stoop moron jerk, who should certainly not be an >> admin! I'm sorry you and your friend were hurt by him. Stalkers have >> no life and no true sense of self, else they would not do as they do. >> Big hugs, and don't let him bother your thoughts any more! >> >>> On 3/9/16, loriduncan wrote: >>> Yes Swan, I saw that on the topic, thank goodness he's taking it seriously. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Shaun Everiss >>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:15 AM >>> To: Gamers Discussion list >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. >>> >>> Well sam actually replyed this morning and is handling it don't think he >>> is happy either. >>> >>> >>> On 10/03/2016 1:54 p.m., loriduncan wrote: Hi Dark, anyone who flames you should be ashamed of themselves, and I'm praying I haven't caused you too much stress over this. It just got too much for me to handle alone, and I was sick of the sleepless nights and feeling threatened all the time. Thanks to everyone who has supported me. > From Lori. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:19 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild. Just to let people know, I have had a couple of people disclose the details of Walter's actions in confidence. I've banned him from audiogames.net, sinse the guy is actively dangerous in a criminal way (I'll be getting flamed for this but hay, such is a mods job and members need to be safe). All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have a
