Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
It is also still possible that this is just as I said before because when you install win 7 on a bootcamp partition on a mac, it is basic plain simple windows7 which hasn't yet had any dependencies installed except the ones which are part of windows7. We want to keep in mind that win7 doesn't include all the dependencies needed to run some of the older programs where windows xp does. Many computers shipping with win7 however seem to ship with one or more of those older programs, and thus you get the convenience of those dependencies added in by the manufacturer. Maybe one of these days I will manage to get a copy of win7 and can try it and see if I have any better luck, though that will be sometime after you already figured it out. *grin*. Yes yes, I know I'm all about dependencies but that is as far as I can think the only possible explanation other than lack of permission. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.11 portable. On 7/5/2011 1:22 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Jim, Very interesting. I admit I have some difficulty in seeing how the hardware could be a problem as most Macs are Intel based like Windows these days, and some of the hardware is found on standard Windows PCs too, but anything is possible I guess. On 7/5/11, Jim Kitchenj...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Valiant, Thanks. Yeah I know that lots of people are running my games on a Windows 7 64 bit computer. The only couple of times that I have heard of problems was when they were trying to do it on a Mac, even with the dual boot. BFN Jim --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Yo. Hmm, that's a possible explanation too then. I didn't have any idea there were driver problems with 64 bit win7. If there are still driver problems, that could explain it too. In that case, if Josh is desperate to play the games that don't work under bootcamp and can't find any way around it, I suppose he could just install 32bit win7 at no extra cost save for time and effort as your license key supposedly will work with 32 bit or 64 regardless. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.11 portable. On 7/7/2011 9:07 AM, Valiant8086 wrote: It is also still possible that this is just as I said before because when you install win 7 on a bootcamp partition on a mac, it is basic plain simple windows7 which hasn't yet had any dependencies installed except the ones which are part of windows7. We want to keep in mind that win7 doesn't include all the dependencies needed to run some of the older programs where windows xp does. Many computers shipping with win7 however seem to ship with one or more of those older programs, and thus you get the convenience of those dependencies added in by the manufacturer. Maybe one of these days I will manage to get a copy of win7 and can try it and see if I have any better luck, though that will be sometime after you already figured it out. *grin*. Yes yes, I know I'm all about dependencies but that is as far as I can think the only possible explanation other than lack of permission. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.11 portable. On 7/5/2011 1:22 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Jim, Very interesting. I admit I have some difficulty in seeing how the hardware could be a problem as most Macs are Intel based like Windows these days, and some of the hardware is found on standard Windows PCs too, but anything is possible I guess. On 7/5/11, Jim Kitchenj...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Valiant, Thanks. Yeah I know that lots of people are running my games on a Windows 7 64 bit computer. The only couple of times that I have heard of problems was when they were trying to do it on a Mac, even with the dual boot. BFN Jim --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Yay. I'm happy to hear you're looking at a mac, even if you go budget and get a mac Minny. Only problem with that is, I'm biased, since I just got one and hope you do release your games for it too as you have mentioned you planned on. *lol* Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.11 portable. On 7/6/2011 2:23 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Trouble, Yes, I know. That's one of the reason Mac's are so high. They don't spare any expense on using high end hardware which makes them some of the best built PCs and llaptops on the market. That's one of the reasons I am currently looking at investing in purchasing one. Apple has a reputation of giving a customer high quality hardware and software for their money where companies like HP, Compaq, Gateway, NEC, etc just put in components that are affordable, but not necessarily the best you can buy just to keep the prices down and competitive. It really is a case of you buy cheep you get cheep for your money when it comes to hardware and software. On 7/5/11, Troubletroub...@columbus.rr.com wrote: The hardware shouldn't be a problem, because the only difference is the op running mac. you can run windows on it as a pc parts based laptop. Now you have to remember that with windows on it the laptop would be at the high end of power laptops with all you get from Apple. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Now if the PC makers would do that it would make this speech software run a bit better instead of fall all over itself crashing. At 02:23 PM 7/6/2011, you wrote: Hi Trouble, Yes, I know. That's one of the reason Mac's are so high. They don't spare any expense on using high end hardware which makes them some of the best built PCs and llaptops on the market. That's one of the reasons I am currently looking at investing in purchasing one. Apple has a reputation of giving a customer high quality hardware and software for their money where companies like HP, Compaq, Gateway, NEC, etc just put in components that are affordable, but not necessarily the best you can buy just to keep the prices down and competitive. It really is a case of you buy cheep you get cheep for your money when it comes to hardware and software. On 7/5/11, Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com wrote: The hardware shouldn't be a problem, because the only difference is the op running mac. you can run windows on it as a pc parts based laptop. Now you have to remember that with windows on it the laptop would be at the high end of power laptops with all you get from Apple. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Hi Pitrmach, That makes sense. I know there are a number of Linux users that have 64bit ops, but when they run Windows via a virtual machine like Virtualbox, for example, they usually use a 32bit version of Windows on a 64bit machine as they say it is less trouble than running a 64bit op in a virtual machine. With that in mind I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Bootcamp doesn't have similar issues with something like 64bit versions of Windows as well. On 7/6/11, Pitermach piterm...@gmail.com wrote: This may or may not be related... Anyway I heard that there stil are some bootcamp driver issues for 64-bit, which is why many people just go ahead and run 32-bit windows instead on it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Hi Trouble, Yes, I know. That's one of the reason Mac's are so high. They don't spare any expense on using high end hardware which makes them some of the best built PCs and llaptops on the market. That's one of the reasons I am currently looking at investing in purchasing one. Apple has a reputation of giving a customer high quality hardware and software for their money where companies like HP, Compaq, Gateway, NEC, etc just put in components that are affordable, but not necessarily the best you can buy just to keep the prices down and competitive. It really is a case of you buy cheep you get cheep for your money when it comes to hardware and software. On 7/5/11, Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com wrote: The hardware shouldn't be a problem, because the only difference is the op running mac. you can run windows on it as a pc parts based laptop. Now you have to remember that with windows on it the laptop would be at the high end of power laptops with all you get from Apple. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Hi Thomas, Allot of people are running my games on a Windows 7 64 bit OS. I guess that VB6 aps don't have that problem. So I am really not sure why Josh is having problems with my games. Thanks for your input. BFN Jim There are no answers at best a few possibly good guesses. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Hi Valiant, Thanks. Yeah I know that lots of people are running my games on a Windows 7 64 bit computer. The only couple of times that I have heard of problems was when they were trying to do it on a Mac, even with the dual boot. BFN Jim I booted my computer and broke my toe j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Hi Jim, Yeah, I figured that was the case, but just wanted to cover the bases. Most 32 bit apps will run on Windows 64, but sometimes they can have technical problems. That's why I tossed the question out there to see if that might have anything to do with Josh's problem. HTH On 7/5/11, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Allot of people are running my games on a Windows 7 64 bit OS. I guess that VB6 aps don't have that problem. So I am really not sure why Josh is having problems with my games. Thanks for your input. BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Hi Jim, Very interesting. I admit I have some difficulty in seeing how the hardware could be a problem as most Macs are Intel based like Windows these days, and some of the hardware is found on standard Windows PCs too, but anything is possible I guess. On 7/5/11, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Valiant, Thanks. Yeah I know that lots of people are running my games on a Windows 7 64 bit computer. The only couple of times that I have heard of problems was when they were trying to do it on a Mac, even with the dual boot. BFN Jim --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
The hardware shouldn't be a problem, because the only difference is the op running mac. you can run windows on it as a pc parts based laptop. Now you have to remember that with windows on it the laptop would be at the high end of power laptops with all you get from Apple. At 01:22 PM 7/5/2011, you wrote: Hi Jim, Very interesting. I admit I have some difficulty in seeing how the hardware could be a problem as most Macs are Intel based like Windows these days, and some of the hardware is found on standard Windows PCs too, but anything is possible I guess. On 7/5/11, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Valiant, Thanks. Yeah I know that lots of people are running my games on a Windows 7 64 bit computer. The only couple of times that I have heard of problems was when they were trying to do it on a Mac, even with the dual boot. BFN Jim --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Hi. I'm guessing this problem is unrelated to the fact it's running on a mac, especially since it's running directly on a boot camp partition. My guess is that winkit wasn't installed, or somehow didn't get the visual c++ runtimes installed. I think I got it right. Also he will probably need to run them as administrator or turn off user account control. There is an alternative download for those visual runtimes directly from microsoft and you can get a somewhat direct link to them by going to the downloads link on qwitter-client.net. I've encountered this problem before with other vb6 programs and this is how I fix them. That said I'm not saying I'm certain this is Josh's problem, but It is worth a try. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.11 portable. Enough 1s? On 6/29/2011 9:45 AM, Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi, I am forwarding this message to the list in hopes that someone might be able to help Josh as I have never run a Mac myself. Hi I tried installing your games into c:\program files (x86)\kitchensinc and they don't run. They try, I get no sound, then the game closes with a this program has stopped working error. I've got a macbook pro running windows7 in bootcamp. dual core processor, 4gigs of ram. josh BFN Jim Check my web site for my free blind accessible pc dos and windows games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Hi Valiant8086, Thank you very much for your suggestions. It sounds like Josh has tried those, like my winkit.zip etc, but no go. But he says that he also has a virtual Windows XP as well and the games run fine there. Thanks again and BFN Jim I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Hi, I have to agree with Valiant. The issue is most likely do to a missing Windows dependency rather than the fact Windows 7 is running on a Mac on a Boot Camp partition. I've done similar things like that myself and as long as Windows itself is working fine on that kind of setup most apps should likewise work just fine in that environment. On 7/4/11, Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com wrote: Hi. I'm guessing this problem is unrelated to the fact it's running on a mac, especially since it's running directly on a boot camp partition. My guess is that winkit wasn't installed, or somehow didn't get the visual c++ runtimes installed. I think I got it right. Also he will probably need to run them as administrator or turn off user account control. There is an alternative download for those visual runtimes directly from microsoft and you can get a somewhat direct link to them by going to the downloads link on qwitter-client.net. I've encountered this problem before with other vb6 programs and this is how I fix them. That said I'm not saying I'm certain this is Josh's problem, but It is worth a try. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.11 portable. Enough 1s? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Hi Jim, Might I throw one more suggestion at you. Josh specified he was running Windows 7 64, but didn't state if his version of XP is 32 bit or 64 bit. This might be a critical detail as I know I'm having issues with 64 bit machines as I only have access to 32 bit software and libraries, but when I released some betas of MOTA we've had some issues on 64 bit platforms. Its possible because your games are designed for a 32 bit environment they have issues on a 64 bit platform. HTH On 7/4/11, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Valiant8086, Thank you very much for your suggestions. It sounds like Josh has tried those, like my winkit.zip etc, but no go. But he says that he also has a virtual Windows XP as well and the games run fine there. Thanks again and BFN Jim I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi. It's possible there are problems related to that, but it also works well if everything is right. I have a Toshiba and an HP both of which run 7 x64 and I can run any of the Kitchens Inc games with no problems at all. Jim I think someone already mentioned this, but Josh can try putting your games in his documents folder or somewhere similarly associated directly with his user account and running them from there to see if that works better. He can also hit the context key on the .exe file for your game and choose troubleshoot compatibility. If he messes around in there long enough I'm banking he'll probably get it to go. Me I run with UAC turned completely off. I wouldn't recommend this to anyone though, I'm just saying that might be part of what is making things work nicer for me than perhaps others. Putting the games in the documents folder might possibly help to get around the problems UAC can introduce with older programs that aren't aware of how to operate in a UAC environment. As it is, I have a program or two which are older and not maintained but which I use very often. Also those programs need to run from the program files folder instead of program files x86 even though they aren't x64 programs. Me personally I keep on having problems where UAC has a weird way of blocking things from happening inside the program files folder but doesn't prompt me the user to allow it. What ends up happening is sort of cleaver, but it's very annoying and hard to work around. The files changed by the program in question appear only for that program. Indeed if you open a fie inside program files with a program and then save it, you get another copy of that file which that program will be the only one that can access. You can't even find it if you go to windows explorer. I worked for a couple of days trying to work around this and he best solutions were running the program as admin which brings up a UAC prompt every time you start the program or turning UAC all the way off which is what I have done. At least I haven't got large piles of sensetive data on my computer and I have an easy way to restore it as I have already had to do once. I still run security essentials and keep the windows firewal turned on at least. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.11 portable. Enough 1s? On 7/4/2011 11:52 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Jim, Might I throw one more suggestion at you. Josh specified he was running Windows 7 64, but didn't state if his version of XP is 32 bit or 64 bit. This might be a critical detail as I know I'm having issues with 64 bit machines as I only have access to 32 bit software and libraries, but when I released some betas of MOTA we've had some issues on 64 bit platforms. Its possible because your games are designed for a 32 bit environment they have issues on a 64 bit platform. HTH On 7/4/11, Jim Kitchenj...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Valiant8086, Thank you very much for your suggestions. It sounds like Josh has tried those, like my winkit.zip etc, but no go. But he says that he also has a virtual Windows XP as well and the games run fine there. Thanks again and BFN Jim I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
hmm uac is for security I think I will use the install programs in a folder on my account. For one thing it means they will run. for another no one can access my stuff. At 10:49 a.m. 5/07/2011, you wrote: Hi. It's possible there are problems related to that, but it also works well if everything is right. I have a Toshiba and an HP both of which run 7 x64 and I can run any of the Kitchens Inc games with no problems at all. Jim I think someone already mentioned this, but Josh can try putting your games in his documents folder or somewhere similarly associated directly with his user account and running them from there to see if that works better. He can also hit the context key on the .exe file for your game and choose troubleshoot compatibility. If he messes around in there long enough I'm banking he'll probably get it to go. Me I run with UAC turned completely off. I wouldn't recommend this to anyone though, I'm just saying that might be part of what is making things work nicer for me than perhaps others. Putting the games in the documents folder might possibly help to get around the problems UAC can introduce with older programs that aren't aware of how to operate in a UAC environment. As it is, I have a program or two which are older and not maintained but which I use very often. Also those programs need to run from the program files folder instead of program files x86 even though they aren't x64 programs. Me personally I keep on having problems where UAC has a weird way of blocking things from happening inside the program files folder but doesn't prompt me the user to allow it. What ends up happening is sort of cleaver, but it's very annoying and hard to work around. The files changed by the program in question appear only for that program. Indeed if you open a fie inside program files with a program and then save it, you get another copy of that file which that program will be the only one that can access. You can't even find it if you go to windows explorer. I worked for a couple of days trying to work around this and he best solutions were running the program as admin which brings up a UAC prompt every time you start the program or turning UAC all the way off which is what I have done. At least I haven't got large piles of sensetive data on my computer and I have an easy way to restore it as I have already had to do once. I still run security essentials and keep the windows firewal turned on at least. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.11 portable. Enough 1s? On 7/4/2011 11:52 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Jim, Might I throw one more suggestion at you. Josh specified he was running Windows 7 64, but didn't state if his version of XP is 32 bit or 64 bit. This might be a critical detail as I know I'm having issues with 64 bit machines as I only have access to 32 bit software and libraries, but when I released some betas of MOTA we've had some issues on 64 bit platforms. Its possible because your games are designed for a 32 bit environment they have issues on a 64 bit platform. HTH On 7/4/11, Jim Kitchenj...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Valiant8086, Thank you very much for your suggestions. It sounds like Josh has tried those, like my winkit.zip etc, but no go. But he says that he also has a virtual Windows XP as well and the games run fine there. Thanks again and BFN Jim I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Hi Thomas, Yeah, I was also thrown by the whole Mac thing and over looked the dual boot system with actual Windows on it. But usually the lack of the VB6 run time libraries will give you an ActiveX error. We will have to see what Josh says. Thanks. BFN Jim I booted my computer and broke my toe j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Hi, I am forwarding this message to the list in hopes that someone might be able to help Josh as I have never run a Mac myself. Hi I tried installing your games into c:\program files (x86)\kitchensinc and they don't run. They try, I get no sound, then the game closes with a this program has stopped working error. I've got a macbook pro running windows7 in bootcamp. dual core processor, 4gigs of ram. josh BFN Jim Check my web site for my free blind accessible pc dos and windows games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
See this goes back to the VB6 issue. he probably has to install the vb6 runtimes. At 09:45 AM 6/29/2011, you wrote: Hi, I am forwarding this message to the list in hopes that someone might be able to help Josh as I have never run a Mac myself. Hi I tried installing your games into c:\program files (x86)\kitchensinc and they don't run. They try, I get no sound, then the game closes with a this program has stopped working error. I've got a macbook pro running windows7 in bootcamp. dual core processor, 4gigs of ram. josh BFN Jim Check my web site for my free blind accessible pc dos and windows games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
josh, try putting them in the program files folder the standard folder. If this does still not work, install all the stuff including winkit in the root or the c drive in your username folder make a folder called kitchensinc and load that there. It sounds like you are using a 64bit os. I hav not got a 64bit os but its possible that the files for vb are not going in the right place syswow 64 is where all 64 bit system files go and system32 is where 32 bit files go. Again this is only from what I get off the lists since although I have the ability to run a 64 bit os I don't have a 64 bit os right now. I am not sure but you really should try to get some sort of windows emulator for the games. Failing that if you can get win xp 32 bit or win 7 32 bit and try that it may work. I am not sure if you can emulate windows environments from a mac but still. At 01:45 a.m. 30/06/2011, you wrote: Hi, I am forwarding this message to the list in hopes that someone might be able to help Josh as I have never run a Mac myself. Hi I tried installing your games into c:\program files (x86)\kitchensinc and they don't run. They try, I get no sound, then the game closes with a this program has stopped working error. I've got a macbook pro running windows7 in bootcamp. dual core processor, 4gigs of ram. josh BFN Jim Check my web site for my free blind accessible pc dos and windows games. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with a Mac
Hi Shaun, UmYou seem to have or forgotten or misunderstood Josh's message but he told you specifically he is running a 64bit OS. He said he is running Windows 7 64 on anIntel based Mac Pro viaBootcamp. Since he is running Windows 7 why on earth would he need a Windows emulator? He doesn't need an emulator when he is running the actual OS itself. Bootcamp allows someone to run another operating system like Windows 7 side by side with Mac OS allowing him to use either OS. If you actually knew anything about Mac computers you wouldn't have mentioned running an emulator as you did. Please, for the 1,000th time would you actually give advice about something you actually know something about rather than what you think you know? As for software emulation and emulators in general they suck. They don't always work, and there are better solutions. Something like Virtualbox for Mac OS is a better solution as it allows a person to install and create virtual drives running Windows, Linux, whatever side by side with Mac OS as the host. Since Josh has 4 GB of ram and so on running a virtual machine wouldn't be a problem. Thanks. On 6/29/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: josh, try putting them in the program files folder the standard folder. If this does still not work, install all the stuff including winkit in the root or the c drive in your username folder make a folder called kitchensinc and load that there. It sounds like you are using a 64bit os. I hav not got a 64bit os but its possible that the files for vb are not going in the right place syswow 64 is where all 64 bit system files go and system32 is where 32 bit files go. Again this is only from what I get off the lists since although I have the ability to run a 64 bit os I don't have a 64 bit os right now. I am not sure but you really should try to get some sort of windows emulator for the games. Failing that if you can get win xp 32 bit or win 7 32 bit and try that it may work. I am not sure if you can emulate windows environments from a mac but still. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
