Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
I suppose at some point Liam may have to do just that, but for now I 
think contacting his parents using sales records or whatever would be 
the better way to go.


Yvonne Alaniz wrote:
> Here's my two cents worth on this issue.  You are all being drug into this 
> because this kid wants attention.  If he can't get positive he'll take the 
> negative.  I am sure most of you have been to this web site and downloaded 
> this fraudulent game.  That just gives him the attention he wants.  
> Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have a 
> lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son leeting 
> them know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop portraying his 
> game as his own intelectual property and does not remove it from the web.
> These are just my thoughts.  Maybe his parents have no idea what their kid is 
> doing in which case they should be informed because they will be responsible 
> if he is a minor.
>
> Yvonne
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Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread shaun everiss
the sounds are put inside the game.
However tell you peoples what.
I asked for the game so I could diddle with the sfx if the names  are the same, 
I will let people know.
At 12:21 p.m. 15/01/2007, you wrote:
>Here's a sure way of finding out. If anyone on the list has the game, look 
>at the sounds folder. Check if the file names are named the same as in Super 
>Liam. I think if you change files names in a game and attempt to play it, 
>will crash. So if anyone has a copy of this game, and it works, verify the 
>file names.
>
>
>
>-
>
>For an amazing video gaming site containing original soundtracks, game art, 
>etc, go here.
>
>http://gh.ffshrine.org?r=16426
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Sean Mealin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
>Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors
>
>
>> You said:
>> Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have 
>> a
>> lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son leeting
>> them know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop portraying his
>> game as his own intelectual property and does not remove it from the web.
>> End quote
>>
>> Before you do that, (witch might be a little extreme) find out if it is a
>> sure rip-off. Get him to give his source code to a 3rd party, to 
>> definitely
>> see if it is a copy. I am not defending him; I am just saying get hard
>> evidence before doing anything drastic.
>>
>> Also, people might want to take this off list before the moderators step
>> in. Or, if they say it's OK
>>
>> Sean
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread shaun everiss
so do I.
If this guy does change if that ever happens maybe just maybe we may see him 
make something.
I have the tools but I am rather lazy. and I know that.
Funny that, I get all these ideas and never bother.
At 10:20 a.m. 15/01/2007, you wrote:
>Yvonne:
>
>His parents are going to be receiving a call at some time this week.  I hope 
>that his parents will realize what their son is doing and take steps to 
>correct it.
>
>
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>To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 2:38 PM
>Subject: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors
>
>
>> Here's my two cents worth on this issue.  You are all being drug into this 
>> because this kid wants attention.  If he can't get positive he'll take the 
>> negative.  I am sure most of you have been to this web site and downloaded 
>> this fraudulent game.  That just gives him the attention he wants.
>> Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have 
>> a lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son 
>> leeting them know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop 
>> portraying his game as his own intelectual property and does not remove it 
>> from the web.
>> These are just my thoughts.  Maybe his parents have no idea what their kid 
>> is doing in which case they should be informed because they will be 
>> responsible if he is a minor.
>>
>> Yvonne
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Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread shaun everiss
hmm there is good attention and bad attention and well you want the former I 
think.
At 10:29 a.m. 15/01/2007, you wrote:
>Dark.  He is getting attention, but not the kind he likes.  trust me.
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Dark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors
>
>
>>I think that is an excellent suggestion.
>>
>> The pod cast has been removed, and certainly if developement and 
>> publicising
>> of Ivan's game continues, legal action on Liam's part might be a good 
>> idea,
>> and I for one would support him in that type of thing.
>>
>> However, it does seem that this issue is taking up a lot of time energy 
>> and
>> space on the list that could more profitably be devoted to good old
>> fashioned game discussion.
>>
>> Of course, everyone is entitled to air their own opinions, but if Ivan is
>> indeed in search of attention then it seems from the amount of controversy
>> created here he certainly got it, and I think it's quite sad, considdering
>> that as has already been mentioned, the audio gaming community is a pretty
>> nice bunch of people.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Dark.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Yvonne Alaniz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 8:38 PM
>> Subject: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors
>>
>>
>>> Here's my two cents worth on this issue.  You are all being drug into 
>>> this
>>> because this kid wants attention.  If he can't get positive he'll take 
>>> the
>>> negative.  I am sure most of you have been to this web site and 
>>> downloaded
>>> this fraudulent game.  That just gives him the attention he wants.
>>> Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have
>>> a lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son
>>> leeting them know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop
>>> portraying his game as his own intelectual property and does not remove 
>>> it
>>> from the web.
>>> These are just my thoughts.  Maybe his parents have no idea what their 
>>> kid
>>> is doing in which case they should be informed because they will be
>>> responsible if he is a minor.
>>>
>>> Yvonne
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>>> today!
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Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread Yohandy
Here's a sure way of finding out. If anyone on the list has the game, look 
at the sounds folder. Check if the file names are named the same as in Super 
Liam. I think if you change files names in a game and attempt to play it, 
will crash. So if anyone has a copy of this game, and it works, verify the 
file names.



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http://gh.ffshrine.org?r=16426


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From: "Sean Mealin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors


> You said:
> Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have 
> a
> lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son leeting
> them know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop portraying his
> game as his own intelectual property and does not remove it from the web.
> End quote
>
> Before you do that, (witch might be a little extreme) find out if it is a
> sure rip-off. Get him to give his source code to a 3rd party, to 
> definitely
> see if it is a copy. I am not defending him; I am just saying get hard
> evidence before doing anything drastic.
>
> Also, people might want to take this off list before the moderators step
> in. Or, if they say it's OK
>
> Sean
>
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Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread rob

Well, i assume if Liam warns him he'd lie to him as well.
The sad thing is that there is no point in saying "it is my game, i wrote it" 
when that is not really true, i don't think so that he made a perfect super 
liam clone. Maybe he's so childish to understand what he's doing.
If i were Liam, i'd definitely try to contact him either by phone or anything 
else which could work. It worth a warning, although i said, he could still 
lie.
A weird situation which (if it is really super Liam) i don't wish to any game 
developer.




- Original Message -
From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Gamers Discussion list" 
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:49:28 -0600
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

> In this case, wouldn't this be a good time for a warning and to find out 
> his 
> intent?  At least to let him know that he's being watched/
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Steve Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors
> 
> 
> > Ivan is not distributing anything at this stage, so a cease and desist
> > letter isn't really the way forward. If he releases something and the code
> > can be proven to be Liam's then he's committing a crime and it's time to
> > take legal action. In the meantime, copying someone's ideas is not a crime
> > and if he's using Liam's code as a way of demonstrating and testing some
> > sound files with the intention of writing his own code (or licensing 
> > Liam's
> > code) then he's not technically done anything wrong. He hasn't got a 
> > website
> > and isn't distributing anything so I think it's a bit too early to involve
> > the lawyers.
> >
> >
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> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Yvonne Alaniz
> > Sent: 14 January 2007 20:38
> > To: Gamers Discussion list
> > Subject: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors
> >
> >
> > Here's my two cents worth on this issue.  You are all being drug into this
> > because this kid wants attention.  If he can't get positive he'll take the
> > negative.  I am sure most of you have been to this web site and downloaded
> > this fraudulent game.  That just gives him the attention he wants.
> > Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have 
> > a
> > lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son leeting
> > them know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop portraying his
> > game as his own intelectual property and does not remove it from the web.
> > These are just my thoughts.  Maybe his parents have no idea what their kid
> > is doing in which case they should be informed because they will be
> > responsible if he is a minor.
> >
> > Yvonne
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Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread Draconis Entertainment
For the record, stealing someone else's ideas, is, a crime. That is the 
whole point of Copyright Law.


Steve Crawford wrote:
> Ivan is not distributing anything at this stage, so a cease and desist
> letter isn't really the way forward. If he releases something and the code
> can be proven to be Liam's then he's committing a crime and it's time to
> take legal action. In the meantime, copying someone's ideas is not a crime
> and if he's using Liam's code as a way of demonstrating and testing some
> sound files with the intention of writing his own code (or licensing Liam's
> code) then he's not technically done anything wrong. He hasn't got a website
> and isn't distributing anything so I think it's a bit too early to involve
> the lawyers.
>   


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Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread Charles Rivard
In this case, wouldn't this be a good time for a warning and to find out his 
intent?  At least to let him know that he's being watched/
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors


> Ivan is not distributing anything at this stage, so a cease and desist
> letter isn't really the way forward. If he releases something and the code
> can be proven to be Liam's then he's committing a crime and it's time to
> take legal action. In the meantime, copying someone's ideas is not a crime
> and if he's using Liam's code as a way of demonstrating and testing some
> sound files with the intention of writing his own code (or licensing 
> Liam's
> code) then he's not technically done anything wrong. He hasn't got a 
> website
> and isn't distributing anything so I think it's a bit too early to involve
> the lawyers.
>
>
> ---
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Yvonne Alaniz
> Sent: 14 January 2007 20:38
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors
>
>
> Here's my two cents worth on this issue.  You are all being drug into this
> because this kid wants attention.  If he can't get positive he'll take the
> negative.  I am sure most of you have been to this web site and downloaded
> this fraudulent game.  That just gives him the attention he wants.
> Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have 
> a
> lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son leeting
> them know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop portraying his
> game as his own intelectual property and does not remove it from the web.
> These are just my thoughts.  Maybe his parents have no idea what their kid
> is doing in which case they should be informed because they will be
> responsible if he is a minor.
>
> Yvonne
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Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread Sean Mealin
AH, OK.

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Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 4:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

Okay, well I figured the gathering of proof was a requirement before taking 
any legal action.

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Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors


> You said:
> Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have 
> a
> lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son leeting
> them know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop portraying his
> game as his own intelectual property and does not remove it from the web.
> End quote
>
> Before you do that, (witch might be a little extreme) find out if it is a
> sure rip-off. Get him to give his source code to a 3rd party, to 
> definitely
> see if it is a copy. I am not defending him; I am just saying get hard
> evidence before doing anything drastic.
>
> Also, people might want to take this off list before the moderators step
> in. Or, if they say it's OK
>
> Sean
>
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Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread Steve Crawford
Ivan is not distributing anything at this stage, so a cease and desist
letter isn't really the way forward. If he releases something and the code
can be proven to be Liam's then he's committing a crime and it's time to
take legal action. In the meantime, copying someone's ideas is not a crime
and if he's using Liam's code as a way of demonstrating and testing some
sound files with the intention of writing his own code (or licensing Liam's
code) then he's not technically done anything wrong. He hasn't got a website
and isn't distributing anything so I think it's a bit too early to involve
the lawyers.


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Sent: 14 January 2007 20:38
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors


Here's my two cents worth on this issue.  You are all being drug into this
because this kid wants attention.  If he can't get positive he'll take the
negative.  I am sure most of you have been to this web site and downloaded
this fraudulent game.  That just gives him the attention he wants.
Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have a
lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son leeting
them know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop portraying his
game as his own intelectual property and does not remove it from the web.
These are just my thoughts.  Maybe his parents have no idea what their kid
is doing in which case they should be informed because they will be
responsible if he is a minor.

Yvonne
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Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread Liam Erven
Dark.  He is getting attention, but not the kind he likes.  trust me.

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From: "Dark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors


>I think that is an excellent suggestion.
>
> The pod cast has been removed, and certainly if developement and 
> publicising
> of Ivan's game continues, legal action on Liam's part might be a good 
> idea,
> and I for one would support him in that type of thing.
>
> However, it does seem that this issue is taking up a lot of time energy 
> and
> space on the list that could more profitably be devoted to good old
> fashioned game discussion.
>
> Of course, everyone is entitled to air their own opinions, but if Ivan is
> indeed in search of attention then it seems from the amount of controversy
> created here he certainly got it, and I think it's quite sad, considdering
> that as has already been mentioned, the audio gaming community is a pretty
> nice bunch of people.
>
> All the best,
>
> Dark.
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> From: "Yvonne Alaniz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 8:38 PM
> Subject: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors
>
>
>> Here's my two cents worth on this issue.  You are all being drug into 
>> this
>> because this kid wants attention.  If he can't get positive he'll take 
>> the
>> negative.  I am sure most of you have been to this web site and 
>> downloaded
>> this fraudulent game.  That just gives him the attention he wants.
>> Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have
>> a lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son
>> leeting them know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop
>> portraying his game as his own intelectual property and does not remove 
>> it
>> from the web.
>> These are just my thoughts.  Maybe his parents have no idea what their 
>> kid
>> is doing in which case they should be informed because they will be
>> responsible if he is a minor.
>>
>> Yvonne
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Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread Liam Erven
Yvonne:

His parents are going to be receiving a call at some time this week.  I hope 
that his parents will realize what their son is doing and take steps to 
correct it.


- Original Message - 
From: "Yvonne Alaniz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 2:38 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors


> Here's my two cents worth on this issue.  You are all being drug into this 
> because this kid wants attention.  If he can't get positive he'll take the 
> negative.  I am sure most of you have been to this web site and downloaded 
> this fraudulent game.  That just gives him the attention he wants.
> Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have 
> a lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son 
> leeting them know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop 
> portraying his game as his own intelectual property and does not remove it 
> from the web.
> These are just my thoughts.  Maybe his parents have no idea what their kid 
> is doing in which case they should be informed because they will be 
> responsible if he is a minor.
>
> Yvonne
> Stressed out?  Need to relax?  Call Yvonne and schedule your massage 
> today!
>
> (361) 249-8739
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Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread Dark
I think that is an excellent suggestion.

The pod cast has been removed, and certainly if developement and publicising 
of Ivan's game continues, legal action on Liam's part might be a good idea, 
and I for one would support him in that type of thing.

However, it does seem that this issue is taking up a lot of time energy and 
space on the list that could more profitably be devoted to good old 
fashioned game discussion.

Of course, everyone is entitled to air their own opinions, but if Ivan is 
indeed in search of attention then it seems from the amount of controversy 
created here he certainly got it, and I think it's quite sad, considdering 
that as has already been mentioned, the audio gaming community is a pretty 
nice bunch of people.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Yvonne Alaniz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 8:38 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors


> Here's my two cents worth on this issue.  You are all being drug into this 
> because this kid wants attention.  If he can't get positive he'll take the 
> negative.  I am sure most of you have been to this web site and downloaded 
> this fraudulent game.  That just gives him the attention he wants.
> Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have 
> a lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son 
> leeting them know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop 
> portraying his game as his own intelectual property and does not remove it 
> from the web.
> These are just my thoughts.  Maybe his parents have no idea what their kid 
> is doing in which case they should be informed because they will be 
> responsible if he is a minor.
>
> Yvonne
> Stressed out?  Need to relax?  Call Yvonne and schedule your massage 
> today!
>
> (361) 249-8739
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Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread Yvonne Alaniz
Okay, well I figured the gathering of proof was a requirement before taking 
any legal action.

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From: "Sean Mealin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors


> You said:
> Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have 
> a
> lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son leeting
> them know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop portraying his
> game as his own intelectual property and does not remove it from the web.
> End quote
>
> Before you do that, (witch might be a little extreme) find out if it is a
> sure rip-off. Get him to give his source code to a 3rd party, to 
> definitely
> see if it is a copy. I am not defending him; I am just saying get hard
> evidence before doing anything drastic.
>
> Also, people might want to take this off list before the moderators step
> in. Or, if they say it's OK
>
> Sean
>
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Re: [Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread Sean Mealin
You said:
Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have a
lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son leeting
them know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop portraying his
game as his own intelectual property and does not remove it from the web.
End quote

Before you do that, (witch might be a little extreme) find out if it is a
sure rip-off. Get him to give his source code to a 3rd party, to definitely
see if it is a copy. I am not defending him; I am just saying get hard
evidence before doing anything drastic. 

Also, people might want to take this off list before the moderators step
in. Or, if they say it's OK

Sean


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[Audyssey] super leeum and dragon warriors

2007-01-14 Thread Yvonne Alaniz
Here's my two cents worth on this issue.  You are all being drug into this 
because this kid wants attention.  If he can't get positive he'll take the 
negative.  I am sure most of you have been to this web site and downloaded this 
fraudulent game.  That just gives him the attention he wants.  
Leeum if I were you I would find out who this kid's parents were and have a 
lawyer send a nasty cease and decist letter to them and their son leeting them 
know that legal action will follow if he doesn't stop portraying his game as 
his own intelectual property and does not remove it from the web.
These are just my thoughts.  Maybe his parents have no idea what their kid is 
doing in which case they should be informed because they will be responsible if 
he is a minor.

Yvonne
Stressed out?  Need to relax?  Call Yvonne and schedule your massage today!

(361) 249-8739
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