Re: [Audyssey] train sym

2007-04-22 Thread shaun everiss
true.
That game is good but its probably better played with sighted help, I played it 
with a friend and he said it was easier to go automatic then control the train 
manually once going.
One thing I want lifted on the game is the ability to go over 80 kph.
I want to go fast for the hell of it.
Saying that I do want a real trainsim.
At 06:36 a.m. 20/04/2007, you wrote:
Hi

We must distinguish between the two train sims in question: BVE and
Spoorsim.
Spoorsim is the game that came with limited speech.
Driving a train is not only about controlling a loco's regulator and brake,
especially a steam engine.
Amongst others, you get a  lot of info from the various gages in your
locomotive, which helps you to better control your engine, which
incidentally, is spoken to you if speech is turned on in Spoorsim.

Two more things about the game:
1.  Spoorsim wasn't meant at all to be accessible for blind users, the
developer eventually just included some speech, after I approached him, to
see how we would get along with the game.
2.  The game as we played it, was also in it's initial stage of development,
I don't think that we could even call it a beta version.

in which case, just load a wave file.
Heh!
If you're not a train fanatic, that's probably the thing to say.
No offence taken though.

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I don't think that train sim was very accessible at all--if it's the one I'm

thinking, with two trains and you control the pressure and the break but 
none of the other controls work?  No, not accessible at all--unless you just

load up the game to hear the sound of a train taking off
--in which case, just load a wave file.
Ken Downey
President
DreamTechInteractive!

And,
Coming soon,
Blind Comfort!
The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] train sym


 Hi Carl,
 There was a blind accessible train simulator but it was taken down. 
 And I do not know of any trucker driving game where you can control 
 the truck, but a good idea.

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Re: [Audyssey] train sym

2007-04-22 Thread Quinten Pendle
I agree whole-heartedly about the speed limit that should have been
lifted. But oh well, I guess it's not going to happen, in fact, I hear
rumours that the game has been discontinued altogether.


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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] train sym


true.
That game is good but its probably better played with sighted help, I
played it with a friend and he said it was easier to go automatic then
control the train manually once going. One thing I want lifted on the
game is the ability to go over 80 kph. I want to go fast for the hell of
it. Saying that I do want a real trainsim. At 06:36 a.m. 20/04/2007, you
wrote:
Hi

We must distinguish between the two train sims in question: BVE and 
Spoorsim. Spoorsim is the game that came with limited speech.
Driving a train is not only about controlling a loco's regulator and
brake,
especially a steam engine.
Amongst others, you get a  lot of info from the various gages in your
locomotive, which helps you to better control your engine, which
incidentally, is spoken to you if speech is turned on in Spoorsim.

Two more things about the game:
1.  Spoorsim wasn't meant at all to be accessible for blind users, the 
developer eventually just included some speech, after I approached him,

to see how we would get along with the game. 2.  The game as we played 
it, was also in it's initial stage of development, I don't think that 
we could even call it a beta version.

in which case, just load a wave file.
Heh!
If you're not a train fanatic, that's probably the thing to say. No 
offence taken though.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Ken the Crazy
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] train sym


I don't think that train sim was very accessible at all--if it's the 
one I'm

thinking, with two trains and you control the pressure and the break 
but
none of the other controls work?  No, not accessible at all--unless you
just

load up the game to hear the sound of a train taking off
--in which case, just load a wave file.
Ken Downey
President
DreamTechInteractive!

And,
Coming soon,
Blind Comfort!
The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring.

- Original Message -
From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] train sym


 Hi Carl,
 There was a blind accessible train simulator but it was taken down.
 And I do not know of any trucker driving game where you can control 
 the truck, but a good idea.

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 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:34 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] train sym


i hear thair was an axcessable train sym at one point does anyone kno

whair i can get a coppy and how axcessable it was yours carl o and is

thair a truck driveing game whair you can controle the vichial unlike

trucker buy jim's kitchen?
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Re: [Audyssey] train sym

2007-04-20 Thread Ken the Crazy
Don't think I tried spoorsim.  The one I tried is referred to on the PCS 
games website.
Ken Downey
President
DreamTechInteractive!

And,
Coming soon,
Blind Comfort!
The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring.

- Original Message - 
From: Quinten Pendle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Ken the Crazy' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Gamers Discussion list' 
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] train sym


 Hi

 We must distinguish between the two train sims in question: BVE and
 Spoorsim.
 Spoorsim is the game that came with limited speech.
 Driving a train is not only about controlling a loco's regulator and 
 brake,
 especially a steam engine.
 Amongst others, you get a  lot of info from the various gages in your
 locomotive, which helps you to better control your engine, which
 incidentally, is spoken to you if speech is turned on in Spoorsim.

 Two more things about the game:
 1.  Spoorsim wasn't meant at all to be accessible for blind users, the
 developer eventually just included some speech, after I approached him, to
 see how we would get along with the game.
 2.  The game as we played it, was also in it's initial stage of 
 development,
 I don't think that we could even call it a beta version.

 in which case, just load a wave file.
 Heh!
 If you're not a train fanatic, that's probably the thing to say.
 No offence taken though.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Ken the Crazy
 Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:52 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] train sym


 I don't think that train sim was very accessible at all--if it's the one 
 I'm

 thinking, with two trains and you control the pressure and the break but
 none of the other controls work?  No, not accessible at all--unless you 
 just

 load up the game to hear the sound of a train taking off
 --in which case, just load a wave file.
 Ken Downey
 President
 DreamTechInteractive!

 And,
 Coming soon,
 Blind Comfort!
 The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] train sym


 Hi Carl,
 There was a blind accessible train simulator but it was taken down.
 And I do not know of any trucker driving game where you can control
 the truck, but a good idea.

 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:34 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] train sym


i hear thair was an axcessable train sym at one point does anyone kno
whair
i can get a coppy and how axcessable it was yours carl o and is thair a
truck driveing game whair you can controle the vichial unlike trucker buy
jim's kitchen?
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Re: [Audyssey] train sym

2007-04-19 Thread Quinten Pendle
Hi
For a copy of the accessible Train Sim, called Spoorsim, contact the
developer direct at 
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Best
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Hi Carl,
There was a blind accessible train simulator but it was taken down. And I do
not know of any trucker driving game where you can control the 
truck, but a good idea.

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Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:34 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] train sym


i hear thair was an axcessable train sym at one point does anyone kno 
whair
i can get a coppy and how axcessable it was yours carl o and is thair a 
truck driveing game whair you can controle the vichial unlike trucker buy 
jim's kitchen?
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Re: [Audyssey] train sym

2007-04-19 Thread Dark
Hmmm, perhaps as has been done with Savage Gambit, Self distruct and danger 
city, someone with appropriate web space might be able to host the game, 
assuming the dev doesn't object of course.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] train sym


 Hi
 For a copy of the accessible Train Sim, called Spoorsim, contact the
 developer direct at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Best
 Quinten Pendle
 PENDLE PRO

 Klerksdorp, South Africa
 Tel:  +27 (0) 83 395 4593
 Fax:  +27 (0)86 516 0498
 Email and Msn:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype:
 ahakimbo
 Website:
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 Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:07 AM
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 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] train sym


 Hi Carl,
 There was a blind accessible train simulator but it was taken down. And I 
 do
 not know of any trucker driving game where you can control the
 truck, but a good idea.

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 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:34 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] train sym


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truck driveing game whair you can controle the vichial unlike trucker buy
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Re: [Audyssey] train sym

2007-04-19 Thread Quinten Pendle
Hi again all

On the score of Train sims, there is a freeware train simulator available,
called BVE (Boso View Express).
It is not fully accessible of course, you can pick routes, and then trains
to drive on the routes; you can drive and control most of the trains and
such, but there's not really an indication of when you are at a station or
at a red signal, or when passengers need to be picked up etc. etc.
Having said that, I've never tried to use this game with JFW and the Jaws
curser. Maybe that might also work, although I doubt it.

You can download the simulator from the following website:

http://mackoy.cool.ne.jp/index4.html

Just a few notes:
When you downloaded the program, you need to download and install all the
routes and trains, and in some instances, consists as well.
A few useful sites to obtain these from, are:

www.railsimroutes.co.uk
www.trainsimcentral.co.uk
www.train-sim.com
www.uktrainsim.com

I have also produced 1 or 2 add ons for this train sim.

HTH

All the best
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Klerksdorp, South Africa
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Re: [Audyssey] train sym

2007-04-19 Thread Ken the Crazy
I don't think that train sim was very accessible at all--if it's the one I'm 
thinking, with two trains and you control the pressure and the break but 
none of the other controls work?  No, not accessible at all--unless you just 
load up the game to hear the sound of a train taking off
--in which case, just load a wave file.
Ken Downey
President
DreamTechInteractive!

And,
Coming soon,
Blind Comfort!
The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring.

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] train sym


 Hi Carl,
 There was a blind accessible train simulator but it was taken down.
 And I do not know of any trucker driving game where you can control the
 truck, but a good idea.

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 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:34 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] train sym


i hear thair was an axcessable train sym at one point does anyone kno 
whair
i can get a coppy and how axcessable it was yours carl o and is thair a
truck driveing game whair you can controle the vichial unlike trucker buy
jim's kitchen?
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Re: [Audyssey] train sym

2007-04-19 Thread Quinten Pendle
Hi

We must distinguish between the two train sims in question: BVE and
Spoorsim.
Spoorsim is the game that came with limited speech.
Driving a train is not only about controlling a loco's regulator and brake,
especially a steam engine.
Amongst others, you get a  lot of info from the various gages in your
locomotive, which helps you to better control your engine, which
incidentally, is spoken to you if speech is turned on in Spoorsim.

Two more things about the game:
1.  Spoorsim wasn't meant at all to be accessible for blind users, the
developer eventually just included some speech, after I approached him, to
see how we would get along with the game.
2.  The game as we played it, was also in it's initial stage of development,
I don't think that we could even call it a beta version.

in which case, just load a wave file.
Heh!
If you're not a train fanatic, that's probably the thing to say.
No offence taken though.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ken the Crazy
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:52 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] train sym


I don't think that train sim was very accessible at all--if it's the one I'm

thinking, with two trains and you control the pressure and the break but 
none of the other controls work?  No, not accessible at all--unless you just

load up the game to hear the sound of a train taking off
--in which case, just load a wave file.
Ken Downey
President
DreamTechInteractive!

And,
Coming soon,
Blind Comfort!
The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring.

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From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] train sym


 Hi Carl,
 There was a blind accessible train simulator but it was taken down. 
 And I do not know of any trucker driving game where you can control 
 the truck, but a good idea.

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 From: carl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:34 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] train sym


i hear thair was an axcessable train sym at one point does anyone kno
whair
i can get a coppy and how axcessable it was yours carl o and is thair a
truck driveing game whair you can controle the vichial unlike trucker buy
jim's kitchen?
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[Audyssey] train sym

2007-04-18 Thread carl
i hear thair was an axcessable train sym at one point does anyone kno whair i 
can get a coppy and how axcessable it was yours carl o and is thair a truck 
driveing game whair you can controle the vichial unlike trucker buy jim's 
kitchen?
email [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype carlf16 msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] or .com 
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Re: [Audyssey] train sym

2007-04-18 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Carl,
There was a blind accessible train simulator but it was taken down.
And I do not know of any trucker driving game where you can control the 
truck, but a good idea.

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From: carl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:34 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] train sym


i hear thair was an axcessable train sym at one point does anyone kno whair 
i can get a coppy and how axcessable it was yours carl o and is thair a 
truck driveing game whair you can controle the vichial unlike trucker buy 
jim's kitchen?
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or .com
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