Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-20 Thread michael barnes
I agree about Bavisoft, since the company is dead then I think that 
somebody should host the games.
As a matter of fact if anyone wants a copy of the games email me off 
list and I will give you a copy with the last update that came out.


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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-20 Thread michael barnes

Hey, Thomas.
I have windows 7 32 bit and the games run fine on my machine, I also 
have a friend that have a 64 bit windows 7 machine and he was able to 
play them on his machine aswell.


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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-20 Thread dark

Hi Tom.

This is in effect what I've done, if you check the pages for Gg and 
chillingham on audiogames.net you'll notice that their status has been 
changed to unknown and there are warnings that people do not attempt to 
order their games.


I sent a mail to bavisoft threatening I'd do this unless they sorted their 
act out, but as usual got absolutely no reasponse,  indeed the last time 
we heard from them was in august 2009 when yes, they just said "don't 
destribute our games" and nothing else.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "Thomas Ward" 

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Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Shaun,

Actually, we've already reached the point where the games won't run.
I've tried them on a Windows 7 64-bit machine and when I try to start
the Bavisoft games I get a runtime error and they crash. I don't know
about others experiences, but the fact of the matter is they've
reached the point where they are out of date with little to know hope
of them being upgraded by the developer.

As for how to handle Bavisoft they haven't done anything that would
get them banned from the audio games forum or Audyssey list, but we
can warn new gamers not to buy their products based on customer
experience. If Bavisoft doesn't like the negative feedback they can
either correct their behavior or close their doors. We don't have to
advertise their products and recommend them when they clearly have no
desire to support their products.


On 1/19/12, shaun everiss  wrote:

Well they may have as well done.
I have noticed from time to time, people uploading the games and they
havn't even responded.
They have not updated their website since 2004, so unless they renew
their copywrites each year they may as well be dead.
Not like we havn't tried to go legal, I have seen blatent threads
with communication messages asking for a responce on status.
Their site went down got infected with malware, but then was put back
up  in its origional form.
Its like they are dead but still want to exist like some sort of ghost.
At any rate I don't know why people would bother actually getting the
games legally or otherwise.
I didn't buy them, but then I played them once or twice on a friend's
pc and to be honest technology has moved on.
Eventually they probably won't run.
I do also wish that they would respond.
If they quit, fine, we can download their games, we are already doing
it and they don't seem to care as a company  if you can honestly call
them that.
Or they come back.
I have no real idea what we can do,  but if they do come back  unless
they give  proper explanations, I wander if we can just bann them or
something, I mean its like they think they can just lose orders and
things and not respond.
We have patiently waited for ages, we have asked them nicely several
times, its not like we havn't tried.


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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread BRYAN PETERSON
And they don't even respond when you discuss their games as
abandonware anymore from what I've heard. So I tend to agree with
Thomas. Bavisoft is dead and probably won't be back anytime soon. And
even if they do nobody will buy their games, much less for the price
they charge for them.

On 1/19/12, Thomas Ward  wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Are you kidding? No, they haven't. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting
> for them to create it either. As far as I am concerned Bavisoft is
> basically a dead company. Nobody ever ever hears from them except, and
> only except, when people start talking about sharing their games as
> abandonware. Then they crawl out from a rock to beg people not to do
> it. Otherwise they don't respond to e-mails and are not active on the
> Audyssey list or Audiogames.net forum.
>
> Personally, if I were dark I'd just drop them from the Audiogames.net
> database as they are pretty useless. We have been hearing about a
> mythical version of Chillingham II since 2004 or so and have heard no
> audio trailers, no game demos, and no news letters either. So I'll
> believe it if and when I see it.
>
>
> On 1/19/12, michael barnes  wrote:
>> Hey.
>> Does anyone knows if Bavisoft has release the second part to Chillingham?
>> I just got done with the first one and I would like to find out what
>> happens!
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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread shaun everiss

I think thats the only sane thing we can do now.
Get it out that they really suck.
I mean enough is enough.
No one says we didn't try, they had loads of chances, even when I 
would have flamed them into hell they still had chances, I think its 
fair to say we gave them time, and now they don't have any left.

At 11:15 p.m. 19/01/2012 -0500, you wrote:

Shaun,

Actually, we've already reached the point where the games won't run.
I've tried them on a Windows 7 64-bit machine and when I try to start
the Bavisoft games I get a runtime error and they crash. I don't know
about others experiences, but the fact of the matter is they've
reached the point where they are out of date with little to know hope
of them being upgraded by the developer.

As for how to handle Bavisoft they haven't done anything that would
get them banned from the audio games forum or Audyssey list, but we
can warn new gamers not to buy their products based on customer
experience. If Bavisoft doesn't like the negative feedback they can
either correct their behavior or close their doors. We don't have to
advertise their products and recommend them when they clearly have no
desire to support their products.


On 1/19/12, shaun everiss  wrote:
> Well they may have as well done.
> I have noticed from time to time, people uploading the games and they
> havn't even responded.
> They have not updated their website since 2004, so unless they renew
> their copywrites each year they may as well be dead.
> Not like we havn't tried to go legal, I have seen blatent threads
> with communication messages asking for a responce on status.
> Their site went down got infected with malware, but then was put back
> up  in its origional form.
> Its like they are dead but still want to exist like some sort of ghost.
> At any rate I don't know why people would bother actually getting the
> games legally or otherwise.
> I didn't buy them, but then I played them once or twice on a friend's
> pc and to be honest technology has moved on.
> Eventually they probably won't run.
> I do also wish that they would respond.
> If they quit, fine, we can download their games, we are already doing
> it and they don't seem to care as a company  if you can honestly call
> them that.
> Or they come back.
> I have no real idea what we can do,  but if they do come back  unless
> they give  proper explanations, I wander if we can just bann them or
> something, I mean its like they think they can just lose orders and
> things and not respond.
> We have patiently waited for ages, we have asked them nicely several
> times, its not like we havn't tried.

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Shaun,

Actually, we've already reached the point where the games won't run.
I've tried them on a Windows 7 64-bit machine and when I try to start
the Bavisoft games I get a runtime error and they crash. I don't know
about others experiences, but the fact of the matter is they've
reached the point where they are out of date with little to know hope
of them being upgraded by the developer.

As for how to handle Bavisoft they haven't done anything that would
get them banned from the audio games forum or Audyssey list, but we
can warn new gamers not to buy their products based on customer
experience. If Bavisoft doesn't like the negative feedback they can
either correct their behavior or close their doors. We don't have to
advertise their products and recommend them when they clearly have no
desire to support their products.


On 1/19/12, shaun everiss  wrote:
> Well they may have as well done.
> I have noticed from time to time, people uploading the games and they
> havn't even responded.
> They have not updated their website since 2004, so unless they renew
> their copywrites each year they may as well be dead.
> Not like we havn't tried to go legal, I have seen blatent threads
> with communication messages asking for a responce on status.
> Their site went down got infected with malware, but then was put back
> up  in its origional form.
> Its like they are dead but still want to exist like some sort of ghost.
> At any rate I don't know why people would bother actually getting the
> games legally or otherwise.
> I didn't buy them, but then I played them once or twice on a friend's
> pc and to be honest technology has moved on.
> Eventually they probably won't run.
> I do also wish that they would respond.
> If they quit, fine, we can download their games, we are already doing
> it and they don't seem to care as a company  if you can honestly call
> them that.
> Or they come back.
> I have no real idea what we can do,  but if they do come back  unless
> they give  proper explanations, I wander if we can just bann them or
> something, I mean its like they think they can just lose orders and
> things and not respond.
> We have patiently waited for ages, we have asked them nicely several
> times, its not like we havn't tried.

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews

I agree, it would be nice to have game demos, along with the user demos.


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From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Dark,

Actually, I've tried both GG and Chillingham on Windows 7 and the
games won't run. My other audio games run fine when the proper libs
are installed, but not Bavisoft's titles. Not that I care about
playing them much anyway.

Its for reasons like this I'd never buy another Bavisoft title unless
A, they fix the problems with their games, B, offer demos, and C,
start answering questions when people ask them questions about their
products. For the price of their games they could at least update them
and fix bugs and problems related to newer operating systems. They do
neither.



On 1/19/12, dark  wrote:
They work okay if you've already registered the vb libraries, have direct 
x
8 on your machine etc. Jim kitchin's games do this, however it wouldn't 
be
difficult for Bavisoft to have their games do this on installation 
too, 


sinse obviously if someone played their games without trying any other 
audio

games and they didn't work they wouldn't know how to fix them.

As to the gg story, yes, it does end, though it's really not as 
interesting
a story as chillingham, and more as I said a framing sequence for the 
games'

action and casino games.

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread shaun everiss

I wander dark if that responce is an autoresponder.
I think I have had just about enough of this.
However,  this gives me a desperate though probably simple thing.
We have tried everything possible.
We threaten to upload the games, till we get a responce.
We upload them and several people post them.
Now they must respond, If they don't then we know they just don't care.
If they do, we ask them why.
Maybe dump all the messages/ topics, and everything sent over the 
years since 2005 or whatever including all the missed orders and lost 
stuff, etc on them and see what happens.


We can also I don't know threaten to black list them or something 
from the forum or something though my plan hasn't got that far.

Its an outragious and hoky idea, but whats left.
I think we have used all the ideas.
They must have seen our friendship messages surely.
I mean we havn't really flamed them at all.
I think we have been more than patient.
I am fed up with waiting its time something is done.
If we don't get a direct responce or well they just don't then Well, I give up.
At 02:07 p.m. 19/01/2012 +, you wrote:
Well michael it's a little ironic that the only! way to get a 
responce out of bavisoft is to threaten to stick their games up for 
download,  yet when you ask them why they don't update their 
games or why orders are missing they don't respond.


It's quite dire really.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "michael barnes" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Hey, Dark.
Thanks for that info!  If Bavisoft is basically dead, then why 
don't anyone host the games for download?
I mean since they are no longer doing business then I would not see 
the issue.  If they didn't want people to pass out there games then 
they need to let people know what is going on, and have a download 
link to the games.


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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread shaun everiss

Well they may have as well done.
I have noticed from time to time, people uploading the games and they 
havn't even responded.
They have not updated their website since 2004, so unless they renew 
their copywrites each year they may as well be dead.
Not like we havn't tried to go legal, I have seen blatent threads 
with communication messages asking for a responce on status.
Their site went down got infected with malware, but then was put back 
up  in its origional form.

Its like they are dead but still want to exist like some sort of ghost.
At any rate I don't know why people would bother actually getting the 
games legally or otherwise.
I didn't buy them, but then I played them once or twice on a friend's 
pc and to be honest technology has moved on.

Eventually they probably won't run.
I do also wish that they would respond.
If they quit, fine, we can download their games, we are already doing 
it and they don't seem to care as a company  if you can honestly call 
them that.

Or they come back.
I have no real idea what we can do,  but if they do come back  unless 
they give  proper explanations, I wander if we can just bann them or 
something, I mean its like they think they can just lose orders and 
things and not respond.
We have patiently waited for ages, we have asked them nicely several 
times, its not like we havn't tried.

At 02:04 p.m. 19/01/2012 +, you wrote:
Unfortunately Kieth the only legal way to get the game is to order 
it on Cd from http://www.bavisoft.com/chillingham.htm


This is however a problem sinse I've heard of several cases of lost 
orders, cds going missing etc, and Bavisoft don't respond, so in all 
honesty I wouldn't recommend trying to order them. however sinse the 
games aren't officially abandonware anyone posting them up for 
download elsewhere could potentially get into trouble.


I actually really wish Bavisoft would either update their stupid cd 
ordering system or just declare the games abandonware and throw in the towel.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Keith S" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Where can I find Grizzly gultch?  I know maxi aids used to carry 
it, but I don't think they have in several years.


Keith
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Grizly gulch has similar gameplay to chillingham with the left 
right targitng but is much simpler,  indeed in some ways too simple.


it has a kind of story, and casino games to playand does have an 
ending, but it's not what I'd call a propper plot, rather a 
framing story for a set of action sequences and games of chance.


On the other hand the voice acting is rather funny in places, and 
the gun fights are amusing, and can even be challenging on higher 
difficulties and speeds, so it's up to you.


Beware the gRue!

Dark.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Hey, Spider.
Is Grizzly Gulch just like Chillingham?  Or does it have a actual ending?
Thanks!

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Dark,

Actually, I've tried both GG and Chillingham on Windows 7 and the
games won't run. My other audio games run fine when the proper libs
are installed, but not Bavisoft's titles. Not that I care about
playing them much anyway.

Its for reasons like this I'd never buy another Bavisoft title unless
A, they fix the problems with their games, B, offer demos, and C,
start answering questions when people ask them questions about their
products. For the price of their games they could at least update them
and fix bugs and problems related to newer operating systems. They do
neither.



On 1/19/12, dark  wrote:
> They work okay if you've already registered the vb libraries, have direct x
> 8 on your machine etc. Jim kitchin's games do this, however it wouldn't be
> difficult for Bavisoft to have their games do this on installation too, 
>
> sinse obviously if someone played their games without trying any other audio
> games and they didn't work they wouldn't know how to fix them.
>
> As to the gg story, yes, it does end, though it's really not as interesting
> a story as chillingham, and more as I said a framing sequence for the games'
> action and casino games.
>
> Beware the gRue!
>

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael,

Are you kidding? No, they haven't. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting
for them to create it either. As far as I am concerned Bavisoft is
basically a dead company. Nobody ever ever hears from them except, and
only except, when people start talking about sharing their games as
abandonware. Then they crawl out from a rock to beg people not to do
it. Otherwise they don't respond to e-mails and are not active on the
Audyssey list or Audiogames.net forum.

Personally, if I were dark I'd just drop them from the Audiogames.net
database as they are pretty useless. We have been hearing about a
mythical version of Chillingham II since 2004 or so and have heard no
audio trailers, no game demos, and no news letters either. So I'll
believe it if and when I see it.


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> Hey.
> Does anyone knows if Bavisoft has release the second part to Chillingham?
> I just got done with the first one and I would like to find out what
> happens!
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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews

Oh.


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No it is a ps2 game that I had when I had my sight four years ago.

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread michael barnes

No it is a ps2 game that I had when I had my sight four years ago.

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Lori Duncan
I actually don't think the end of the game was done all that well, it seemed 
very rushed and almost as though someone else had written it.


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Well I think that instead of telling the players at the end that there 
was going to be a sequel they should have made it where the story could 
have been fix to make you think that there was not going to be a sequel.
Or do the game like the legend of spyro the new begining where when you 
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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews

This game you bought up, it is an audio game, and does it have a demo?


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Well for exsample at the end of the legend of spyro a new begining you 
rescue the girl dragon, and then it show spyro and the girl dragon talking 
and it's what she says that give the player the idea that there could be 
sequel.

However it also looks like there ain't going to be a sequel aswell.

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread michael barnes
Well for exsample at the end of the legend of spyro a new begining you 
rescue the girl dragon, and then it show spyro and the girl dragon 
talking and it's what she says that give the player the idea that there 
could be sequel.

However it also looks like there ain't going to be a sequel aswell.

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews

What do you mean by making it look like a sequel?


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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Well I think that instead of telling the players at the end that there was 
going to be a sequel they should have made it where the story could have 
been fix to make you think that there was not going to be a sequel.
Or do the game like the legend of spyro the new begining where when you 
beat the game the first part of the story ends, but at the end it could 
have look like there could be a sequel.  Then if they didn't make the 
second part it wouldn't take away from the story, because it would be like 
they could make a sequel or not.

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread michael barnes
Well I think that instead of telling the players at the end that there 
was going to be a sequel they should have made it where the story could 
have been fix to make you think that there was not going to be a sequel.
Or do the game like the legend of spyro the new begining where when you 
beat the game the first part of the story ends, but at the end it could 
have look like there could be a sequel.  Then if they didn't make the 
second part it wouldn't take away from the story, because it would be 
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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
I think they were on audiogames.net forums. I like the cd as a backup, like 
when I have to re-install my OS and I just recently did, but do think there 
should ba another option.



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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Hi micole.

Abandonware means that the developer has essentially given up on the 
project. It is made freely available for anyone, but the developer will 
answer no questions about it or work anymore on it. Dan Z's games for 
instance available on the Usa games site are abandonware in this way, so 
is the savage gammet.


Btw, I'm amazed you actually got to speak to bavisoft at all! last I heard 
from them was in august of 2009, and that as Bryan said was when someone 
threatened to post their games up somewhere for free download but all they 
said was "don't do it" and answered nobody's questions.


Though their games showed promise for the time they were released, audio 
games are much more developed now, and if they came back it'd probably 
take a good deal of good publicity from them before they would be trusted.


Indeed, if Chillingham 2 came out and was only orderable on Cd, I might 
well not order it myself for fear it'd never arrive.


Beware the grue!

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Unfortunately Kieth the only legal way to get the game is to order it on 
Cd from http://www.bavisoft.com/chillingham.htm


This is however a problem sinse I've heard of several cases of lost 
orders, cds going missing etc, and Bavisoft don't respond, so in all 
honesty I wouldn't recommend trying to order them. however sinse the 
games aren't officially abandonware anyone posting them up for download 
elsewhere could potentially get into trouble.


I actually really wish Bavisoft would either update their stupid cd 
ordering system or just declare the games abandonware and throw in the 
towel.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Where can I find Grizzly gultch?  I know maxi aids used to carry it, 
but I don't think they have in several years.


Keith
----- Original Message - 
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Grizly gulch has similar gameplay to chillingham with the left right 
targitng but is much simpler,  indeed in some ways too simple.


it has a kind of story, and casino games to playand does have an 
ending, but it's not what I'd call a propper plot, rather a framing 
story for a set of action sequences and games of chance.


On the other hand the voice acting is rather funny in places, and the 
gun fights are amusing, and can even be challenging on higher 
difficulties and speeds, so it's up to you.


Beware the gRue!

Dark.
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Hey, Spider.
Is Grizzly Gulch just like Chillingham?  Or does it have a actual 
ending?

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread dark

Hi micole.

Abandonware means that the developer has essentially given up on the 
project. It is made freely available for anyone, but the developer will 
answer no questions about it or work anymore on it. Dan Z's games for 
instance available on the Usa games site are abandonware in this way, so is 
the savage gammet.


Btw, I'm amazed you actually got to speak to bavisoft at all! last I heard 
from them was in august of 2009, and that as Bryan said was when someone 
threatened to post their games up somewhere for free download but all they 
said was "don't do it" and answered nobody's questions.


Though their games showed promise for the time they were released, audio 
games are much more developed now, and if they came back it'd probably take 
a good deal of good publicity from them before they would be trusted.


Indeed, if Chillingham 2 came out and was only orderable on Cd, I might well 
not order it myself for fear it'd never arrive.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: "Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



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- Original Message - 
From: "dark" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Unfortunately Kieth the only legal way to get the game is to order it on 
Cd from http://www.bavisoft.com/chillingham.htm


This is however a problem sinse I've heard of several cases of lost 
orders, cds going missing etc, and Bavisoft don't respond, so in all 
honesty I wouldn't recommend trying to order them. however sinse the 
games aren't officially abandonware anyone posting them up for download 
elsewhere could potentially get into trouble.


I actually really wish Bavisoft would either update their stupid cd 
ordering system or just declare the games abandonware and throw in the 
towel.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith S" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Where can I find Grizzly gultch?  I know maxi aids used to carry it, but 
I don't think they have in several years.


Keith
- Original Message - 
From: "dark" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Grizly gulch has similar gameplay to chillingham with the left right 
targitng but is much simpler,  indeed in some ways too simple.


it has a kind of story, and casino games to playand does have an 
ending, but it's not what I'd call a propper plot, rather a framing 
story for a set of action sequences and games of chance.


On the other hand the voice acting is rather funny in places, and the 
gun fights are amusing, and can even be challenging on higher 
difficulties and speeds, so it's up to you.


Beware the gRue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "michael barnes" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Hey, Spider.
Is Grizzly Gulch just like Chillingham?  Or does it have a actual 
ending?

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Lori Duncan


I think they are conning us by keeping their silence, it's totally 
unproffessional.


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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:07 PM
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham  sequel.

Well michael it's a little ironic that the only! way to get a responce out 
of bavisoft is to threaten to stick their games up for download,  yet 
when you ask them why they don't update their games or why orders are 
missing they don't respond.


It's quite dire really.

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Hey, Dark.
Thanks for that info!  If Bavisoft is basically dead, then why don't 
anyone host the games for download?
I mean since they are no longer doing business then I would not see the 
issue.  If they didn't want people to pass out there games then they need 
to let people know what is going on, and have a download link to the 
games.


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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews

I agree, there isn't a plot for GG, but good action, and sound quality.


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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Grizly gulch has similar gameplay to chillingham with the left right 
targitng but is much simpler,  indeed in some ways too simple.


it has a kind of story, and casino games to playand does have an ending, 
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set of action sequences and games of chance.


On the other hand the voice acting is rather funny in places, and the gun 
fights are amusing, and can even be challenging on higher difficulties and 
speeds, so it's up to you.


Beware the gRue!

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Hey, Spider.
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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread BRYAN PETERSON
People have been trying to convince them to go the download route for
years with no success, and that was even wen you could actally get
them to respond. ZBt in recent years the only way to get them to
respond was to suggest that their games should be made abandonware,
and even then the response was simply something along the lines of
please do not do this. And you can't even get that now. So I'll be
extremely surprised if we ever see Chillingham II and even more so if
anyone buys it.

On 1/19/12, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews  wrote:
> I agree. They had a good thing going, with their first game. I don't like
> Chillingham, but if they plan to do a swuel, I'll get it to know what
> happened. I think it would have been great if they had downloadable
> versions, and am starting to wonder if the company needs new management.
> When I last talked with the developer, he said they were still working on a
>
> sequel. Unfortuanately, that was years back. Chillingham was too easy for
> me, and not enough challenges, and I don't like the cheat feature, since you
>
> finish the game too fast.
>
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> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.
>
>
>> Don't waste your time. Bavisoft has not and probably never will
>> release Chillingham II judging by the total lack of communication from
>> them, not to mention the fact that people have had trouble with
>> placing and then never receiving orders.
>>
>> On 1/19/12, michael barnes  wrote:
>>> Hey.
>>> Does anyone knows if Bavisoft has release the second part to
>>> Chillingham?
>>> I just got done with the first one and I would like to find out what
>>> happens!
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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews

What's abandoware?


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Unfortunately Kieth the only legal way to get the game is to order it on 
Cd from http://www.bavisoft.com/chillingham.htm


This is however a problem sinse I've heard of several cases of lost 
orders, cds going missing etc, and Bavisoft don't respond, so in all 
honesty I wouldn't recommend trying to order them. however sinse the games 
aren't officially abandonware anyone posting them up for download 
elsewhere could potentially get into trouble.


I actually really wish Bavisoft would either update their stupid cd 
ordering system or just declare the games abandonware and throw in the 
towel.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Where can I find Grizzly gultch?  I know maxi aids used to carry it, but 
I don't think they have in several years.


Keith
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Grizly gulch has similar gameplay to chillingham with the left right 
targitng but is much simpler,  indeed in some ways too simple.


it has a kind of story, and casino games to playand does have an ending, 
but it's not what I'd call a propper plot, rather a framing story for a 
set of action sequences and games of chance.


On the other hand the voice acting is rather funny in places, and the 
gun fights are amusing, and can even be challenging on higher 
difficulties and speeds, so it's up to you.


Beware the gRue!

Dark.
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Hey, Spider.
Is Grizzly Gulch just like Chillingham?  Or does it have a actual 
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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
I agree. They had a good thing going, with their first game. I don't like 
Chillingham, but if they plan to do a swuel, I'll get it to know what 
happened. I think it would have been great if they had downloadable 
versions, and am starting to wonder if the company needs new management. 
When I last talked with the developer, he said they were still working on a 
sequel. Unfortuanately, that was years back. Chillingham was too easy for 
me, and not enough challenges, and I don't like the cheat feature, since you 
finish the game too fast.



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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Don't waste your time. Bavisoft has not and probably never will
release Chillingham II judging by the total lack of communication from
them, not to mention the fact that people have had trouble with
placing and then never receiving orders.

On 1/19/12, michael barnes  wrote:

Hey.
Does anyone knows if Bavisoft has release the second part to Chillingham?
I just got done with the first one and I would like to find out what
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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread BRYAN PETERSON
Don't waste your time. Bavisoft has not and probably never will
release Chillingham II judging by the total lack of communication from
them, not to mention the fact that people have had trouble with
placing and then never receiving orders.

On 1/19/12, michael barnes  wrote:
> Hey.
> Does anyone knows if Bavisoft has release the second part to Chillingham?
> I just got done with the first one and I would like to find out what
> happens!
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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread dark
Well michael it's a little ironic that the only! way to get a responce out 
of bavisoft is to threaten to stick their games up for download,  yet 
when you ask them why they don't update their games or why orders are 
missing they don't respond.


It's quite dire really.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Hey, Dark.
Thanks for that info!  If Bavisoft is basically dead, then why don't 
anyone host the games for download?
I mean since they are no longer doing business then I would not see the 
issue.  If they didn't want people to pass out there games then they need 
to let people know what is going on, and have a download link to the 
games.


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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread dark
They work okay if you've already registered the vb libraries, have direct x 
8 on your machine etc. Jim kitchin's games do this, however it wouldn't be 
difficult for Bavisoft to have their games do this on installation too,   
sinse obviously if someone played their games without trying any other audio 
games and they didn't work they wouldn't know how to fix them.


As to the gg story, yes, it does end, though it's really not as interesting 
a story as chillingham, and more as I said a framing sequence for the games' 
action and casino games.


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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Hey, Dark.
I been playing the games on my windows 7 machine, and they seem to work 
alright!
Answer this for me, when you get to the end of Grizzly Gulch is it like 
Chillingham were there is no ending or does it have a ending to the story?

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread dark
Unfortunately Kieth the only legal way to get the game is to order it on Cd 
from http://www.bavisoft.com/chillingham.htm


This is however a problem sinse I've heard of several cases of lost orders, 
cds going missing etc, and Bavisoft don't respond, so in all honesty I 
wouldn't recommend trying to order them. however sinse the games aren't 
officially abandonware anyone posting them up for download elsewhere could 
potentially get into trouble.


I actually really wish Bavisoft would either update their stupid cd ordering 
system or just declare the games abandonware and throw in the towel.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Where can I find Grizzly gultch?  I know maxi aids used to carry it, but I 
don't think they have in several years.


Keith
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Grizly gulch has similar gameplay to chillingham with the left right 
targitng but is much simpler,  indeed in some ways too simple.


it has a kind of story, and casino games to playand does have an ending, 
but it's not what I'd call a propper plot, rather a framing story for a 
set of action sequences and games of chance.


On the other hand the voice acting is rather funny in places, and the gun 
fights are amusing, and can even be challenging on higher difficulties 
and speeds, so it's up to you.


Beware the gRue!

Dark.
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Hey, Spider.
Is Grizzly Gulch just like Chillingham?  Or does it have a actual 
ending?

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread michael barnes

Hey, Keith.
Email me off list about that.

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread michael barnes

Hey, Dark.
Thanks for that info!  If Bavisoft is basically dead, then why don't 
anyone host the games for download?
I mean since they are no longer doing business then I would not see the 
issue.  If they didn't want people to pass out there games then they 
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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread michael barnes

Hey, Dark.
I been playing the games on my windows 7 machine, and they seem to work 
alright!
Answer this for me, when you get to the end of Grizzly Gulch is it like 
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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Keith S
Where can I find Grizzly gultch?  I know maxi aids used to carry it, but I 
don't think they have in several years.


Keith
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.


Grizly gulch has similar gameplay to chillingham with the left right 
targitng but is much simpler,  indeed in some ways too simple.


it has a kind of story, and casino games to playand does have an ending, 
but it's not what I'd call a propper plot, rather a framing story for a 
set of action sequences and games of chance.


On the other hand the voice acting is rather funny in places, and the gun 
fights are amusing, and can even be challenging on higher difficulties and 
speeds, so it's up to you.


Beware the gRue!

Dark.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Hey, Spider.
Is Grizzly Gulch just like Chillingham?  Or does it have a actual ending?
Thanks!

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread dark
Grizly gulch has similar gameplay to chillingham with the left right 
targitng but is much simpler,  indeed in some ways too simple.


it has a kind of story, and casino games to playand does have an ending, but 
it's not what I'd call a propper plot, rather a framing story for a set of 
action sequences and games of chance.


On the other hand the voice acting is rather funny in places, and the gun 
fights are amusing, and can even be challenging on higher difficulties and 
speeds, so it's up to you.


Beware the gRue!

Dark.
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Hey, Spider.
Is Grizzly Gulch just like Chillingham?  Or does it have a actual ending?
Thanks!

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread dark

Unfortunately Michael that's one of life's great mysteries!

Bavisoft have been incredibly uncommunicative for years and it's uncertain 
whether they've done any developement at all, even converting their current 
games to run on windows vista and 7, or having the games downloadable 
instead of relying on this rather out of date Cd system.


Even in matters such as lost orders Bavisoft haven't got back to anyone very 
often.


i've tried communicating with them myself on several occasions to ask what 
they are doing, but have had no response. As far as I'm concerned they're a 
dead company.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:56 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.



Hey.
Does anyone knows if Bavisoft has release the second part to Chillingham?
I just got done with the first one and I would like to find out what 
happens!


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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Lori Duncan
Hi I doubt that will ever happen, they seem to have just given up with no 
warning or anything, pretty poor I think.


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Hey.
Does anyone knows if Bavisoft has release the second part to Chillingham?
I just got done with the first one and I would like to find out what 
happens!


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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread michael barnes

Hey, Spider.
Is Grizzly Gulch just like Chillingham?  Or does it have a actual ending?
Thanks!

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Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham sequel.

2012-01-19 Thread Pitermach

Nope, they didn't.   Bavisoft's quiet and unresponsive as usual

On 2012-01-19 13:56, michael barnes wrote:

Hey.
Does anyone knows if Bavisoft has release the second part to Chillingham?
I just got done with the first one and I would like to find out what 
happens!




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