Re: [Audyssey] Dungeons Dragons for the blind

2014-05-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles,

Not for DND. The standard DND dice have numbers on them instead of
holes or dots which makes them difficult to feel. Plus the 10 sided
and 20 sided dice makes them hard to properly label given the  unique
shape of the die. So I don't think using standard RPG die in this case
would work given they are not your standard 6 sided die with holes
that can be easily felt.

Cheers!


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 Actually, any standard set of dice will work.  They have holes rather than
 spots on them, which can easily be felt.

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Re: [Audyssey] Dungeons Dragons for the blind

2014-05-29 Thread Jacob Kruger

Not really - think the two most commonly used dice types/sizes in certain
types of role playing games are 10-sided, or 20-sided - so, unless they're
way bigger than standard, you won't be able to feel the numbers inscribed
into the sides of the dice, since they're printed/engraved a little bit too
small to feel all that easily...smile

I generally use a dice app on my laptop, or else, there's also a RPG dive 
roller bit of software for the android phone operating system that's 
usable/accessible enough, but anyway.


Stay well

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Actually, any standard set of dice will work.  They have holes rather than
spots on them, which can easily be felt.

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Hello Tyler,

Your question is a bit confusing. All tabletop Dungeons and Dragons
games are by their very nature accessible for a blind person. All you
need is an electronic copy of the rule books and player's guides, some
braille dice, and a group of friends to play with. Other than
obtaining accessible documentation itself the game is fully accessible
for a blind player, and so I'd need to know what you don't think is
accessible about DND in order to answer your question. Are you talking
about computer games ore tabletop DND?

Cheers!


On 5/27/14, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote:

Hello! Tell me all the blind-accessible Dungeons  Dragons games you
know
of. I know
of the live one they talk about on pcsgames.net. But pretend I don't
know a
thing about blind
dd.
Tyler Z

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Re: [Audyssey] Dungeons Dragons for the blind

2014-05-29 Thread Nancy Feldman
Hi Charles,

I've never seen a D20 with holes. Only D6s. Everything else, D4, D8, D10,
D12 and D20, aren't accessible. Where do you find these dice with holes?


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Actually, any standard set of dice will work.  They have holes rather than 
spots on them, which can easily be felt.

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 Hello Tyler,

 Your question is a bit confusing. All tabletop Dungeons and Dragons
 games are by their very nature accessible for a blind person. All you
 need is an electronic copy of the rule books and player's guides, some
 braille dice, and a group of friends to play with. Other than
 obtaining accessible documentation itself the game is fully accessible
 for a blind player, and so I'd need to know what you don't think is
 accessible about DND in order to answer your question. Are you talking
 about computer games ore tabletop DND?

 Cheers!


 On 5/27/14, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote:
 Hello! Tell me all the blind-accessible Dungeons  Dragons games you know
 of. I know
 of the live one they talk about on pcsgames.net. But pretend I don't know

 a
 thing about blind
 dd.
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Re: [Audyssey] Dungeons Dragons for the blind

2014-05-29 Thread Nancy Feldman
If you mean tabletop role-playing games, I find just about all of them
accessible. You buy a set of rules, almost always in a PDF file. You create
a character, and then sit at a table with your friends and play. An
accessible dice roller like GMA Dice lets you make your dice rolls, and a
laptop or Braille notetaker lets you have access to your character sheet and
the rules. These different RPGs can create play in genres ranging from high
fantasy to cyberpunk, and all sorts of things in between.

If you're talking about DD style computer games, I don't know many of these
that talk. Entombed is vaguely DD like, and it was fun to play, but I
believe the developer hasn't done anything with that game in years. I could
be wrong about that, though.



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I play the real table top version of a flavour called rune quest with some 
sighted friends, and I just use a text file, open in notepad, and a bit of 
software on my laptop rolling dice to handle my side of character sheet, 
etc., but anyway.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
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Subject: [Audyssey] Dungeons  Dragons for the blind


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Re: [Audyssey] Dungeons Dragons for the blind

2014-05-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Nancy,

Neither have I. I suspect Charles made an assumption based on the d6
die he has used and assumed that all dice were that way, but as we
both know that's not the case. The d10, d12, d20, etc have numbers on
them not holes and are not very tactile and are inaccessible.

Cheers!


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 Hi Charles,

 I've never seen a D20 with holes. Only D6s. Everything else, D4, D8, D10,
 D12 and D20, aren't accessible. Where do you find these dice with holes?


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Re: [Audyssey] Dungeons Dragons for the blind

2014-05-28 Thread dark
I don't know exactly what you mean about blind accessible dungeons and 
dragons, sinse Dungeons and dragons is perfectly accessible to play with 
sighted people provided you have either a copy of the manual (or can get one 
read), and some dice to roll.


The manuals can be bought in electronic format from places like 
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/


After that all you need to  do is find a group playing and join them.

I played DD with a group at my university for a while some years ago, and I 
meet with some friends to play mutants and masterminds (sort of the 
superhero version of DD, each weeek.


have heard of people who play on forums or  through mailing lists, but to 
be honest nothing can beat sitting down with a real human Game master and 
some players. You might get  something of the same experience through voice 
chat sinse then at least all your actions are live, I'm not sure 've never 
done that, though to be honeest sinse DD and other tabletop rp games are 
something a blind person can do just as well as  anyone else, you might as 
well find a local group and try it out.


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Re: [Audyssey] Dungeons Dragons for the blind

2014-05-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello Tyler,

Your question is a bit confusing. All tabletop Dungeons and Dragons
games are by their very nature accessible for a blind person. All you
need is an electronic copy of the rule books and player's guides, some
braille dice, and a group of friends to play with. Other than
obtaining accessible documentation itself the game is fully accessible
for a blind player, and so I'd need to know what you don't think is
accessible about DND in order to answer your question. Are you talking
about computer games ore tabletop DND?

Cheers!


On 5/27/14, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote:
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 of. I know
 of the live one they talk about on pcsgames.net. But pretend I don't know a
 thing about blind
 dd.
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Re: [Audyssey] Dungeons Dragons for the blind

2014-05-28 Thread Jacob Kruger
I play the real table top version of a flavour called rune quest with some 
sighted friends, and I just use a text file, open in notepad, and a bit of 
software on my laptop rolling dice to handle my side of character sheet, 
etc., but anyway.


Stay well

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Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet...

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Subject: [Audyssey] Dungeons  Dragons for the blind


Hello! Tell me all the blind-accessible Dungeons  Dragons games you know 
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of the live one they talk about on pcsgames.net. But pretend I don't know 
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dd.
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Re: [Audyssey] Dungeons Dragons for the blind

2014-05-28 Thread Shaun Everiss

Well the only dnd games I have seen are on dos.
I still have those games for all the use they will probably be for you.
if you have a vm of xp or dosemu in linux or a 32 bit os yes a 32 bit 
os would be the easiest option though now I have a package of 
stuff  loaded on a base system under arch well talking arch that is 
maybe I will be able to support linux.


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Re: [Audyssey] Dungeons Dragons for the blind

2014-05-28 Thread Charles Rivard
Actually, any standard set of dice will work.  They have holes rather than 
spots on them, which can easily be felt.


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Hello Tyler,

Your question is a bit confusing. All tabletop Dungeons and Dragons
games are by their very nature accessible for a blind person. All you
need is an electronic copy of the rule books and player's guides, some
braille dice, and a group of friends to play with. Other than
obtaining accessible documentation itself the game is fully accessible
for a blind player, and so I'd need to know what you don't think is
accessible about DND in order to answer your question. Are you talking
about computer games ore tabletop DND?

Cheers!


On 5/27/14, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote:

Hello! Tell me all the blind-accessible Dungeons  Dragons games you know
of. I know
of the live one they talk about on pcsgames.net. But pretend I don't know 
a

thing about blind
dd.
Tyler Z

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Re: [Audyssey] Dungeons Dragons for the blind

2014-05-28 Thread dark

Hi Charlse.

Most rp dice I've seen don't have spots like the usual D6's you might get 
with a game of monopoly or whatever. They have actual printed numbers which 
aren't tactile, which makes sense given your dealing with dice with up to 20 
sides so you'd have to be putting lots of spots in a small space.


I did find it was possible to get braille lables to fit the larger sized 
dice, however the D20 had faces which were just too small, one reason why 
the Gma dice program or similar is a better alternative for access.


If you've seen any rp dice with tactile faces I'd be very interested to hear 
about it. I did recently hear of a company called 64 ounce games who were 
looking into making D20's along with braille sleeves for some popular none 
traditional card games but I'm not sure where that is or whether they do all 
the various other types of dice needed for DD.


Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Dungeons Dragons for the blind

2014-05-28 Thread Dennis Towne
Tyler, are you looking for true DD, or just an RPG with swords,
magic, dragons, and other DD related things?  There's a lot of online
servers for such things, just not many that are true DD rules.

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:04 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi Charlse.

 Most rp dice I've seen don't have spots like the usual D6's you might get
 with a game of monopoly or whatever. They have actual printed numbers which
 aren't tactile, which makes sense given your dealing with dice with up to 20
 sides so you'd have to be putting lots of spots in a small space.

 I did find it was possible to get braille lables to fit the larger sized
 dice, however the D20 had faces which were just too small, one reason why
 the Gma dice program or similar is a better alternative for access.

 If you've seen any rp dice with tactile faces I'd be very interested to hear
 about it. I did recently hear of a company called 64 ounce games who were
 looking into making D20's along with braille sleeves for some popular none
 traditional card games but I'm not sure where that is or whether they do all
 the various other types of dice needed for DD.

 Beware the Grue!

 DArk.

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