Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions
Just to set a few things straight here. You don't have to convert if not want to. I have many of mp3 files on iPhone and iPod doing just fine. Also have complete books and what ever in mp3. But I mostly like it for backing up everything including my games. When they are put back on you are where you left off in game. Like having two types of save. At 11:18 AM 10/10/2012, you wrote: If you add the folder the books are in to the ITunes library ITunes will prompt you to convert those files to the ITunes format. Don't worry though, they'll still play just fine on your computer and not just in ITunes. Anyway say yes to the convertion. THe next time you sync your device with ITunes the books should be copied to it. Granted doing it manually this way can sometimes cause weird problems where a book gets copied to the IPod but it's listed as unknown. However if you have, say a book on CD, and ou rip it directly into ITunes itself that will not happen. The only downside is that you do have to rip each disc individually and then have to play it individually as well. If there's a more convenient way to do this I don't know. But I too would be interested in more accessible IOS games. But thou must! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:52 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Well I will see how supernova gets on with itunes, though I know it's had the capacity for a while now, though sinse putting audio books and such onto my iphone is one of the major things I want to do, i'll have to see how workable that solution is. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions I've personally had very little trouble with ITnes. Then again I use Window-Eyes, which is actually the screen reader Apple seems to recommend for the Windows version of ITunes. But I'm able to sync my IPod Touch and IPhone quite easily with ITunes since at least to a certain degree you do actually have conrol over what you put on your device. I can tell ITunes to put all Audiobooks on the IPod Touch but not on the IPhone itself. The only problem is that if I have Apps in m ITunes library that I want on the IPhone but not on the IPod Touch I have to actually delete them from ITunes before the next time I sync the IPod. ther than that though I find ITunes to work fairly reliably. Touch But thou must! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:28 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Hi scot. that is good to know, thanks. At least I should get any itunes related updates with supernova sinse I now have version 13, though supernova doesn't tend to change too much based on it's scripts the way say jaws does. The itunes thing is just a thought, but it's the one thing that slightly puts me off running out and buying a phone, sinse I did! want it for listening to the music and audio books I have on my pc. As to the price, well though it's a lot well I don't mind paying that sort of cash if I get several years use out of the thing, plus, the chap who's phone I examined paid ^£30 for the handset and then was on a £40 a month contract for two years, which worked out more expensive (my currentphone contract is £10 a month). My original laptop that I got in 2000 cost around £700 (yes, they were that expensive back then!), but it served me extremely well for the next five years, being used literally on a dayly basis, so I'm pretty happy that I got my money's worth. My second laptop that I got in 2005 cost around £350, but once again, it was completely used until 2010. indeed, it's still in full working order accept for the headphone socket (it's really irritating they can't be replaced). So I don't mind paying for something as long as it's something I use a lot, and it sounds like that with the Iphone, indeed my brother paid that for his and has used it extremely frequently for the last three years. Beware the grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.o
Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions
You must have to much running in background, not much ram, or old version of screen reader. No problems with it here. At 01:14 PM 10/10/2012, you wrote: yeah clement I use itunes and for the most part nvda does read it. However there are many inaccessable buttons mostly having to do with the updating of applications, genius, home sharing and the like I could really do without. Itunes depending on pc config can be a monster to load. Aparently on older non touch ipods you can copy directly to them ofcause these would be the basic non advanced models. At 06:32 a.m. 10/10/2012 -0700, you wrote: Nice to hear you got the chance that it played with one! I actually use Window-eyes as well, so have no problem with ITunes... but I'm curious... isn't this considered off-topic? - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions I've personally had very little trouble with ITnes. Then again I use Window-Eyes, which is actually the screen reader Apple seems to recommend for the Windows version of ITunes. But I'm able to sync my IPod Touch and IPhone quite easily with ITunes since at least to a certain degree you do actually have conrol over what you put on your device. I can tell ITunes to put all Audiobooks on the IPod Touch but not on the IPhone itself. The only problem is that if I have Apps in m ITunes library that I want on the IPhone but not on the IPod Touch I have to actually delete them from ITunes before the next time I sync the IPod. ther than that though I find ITunes to work fairly reliably. Touch But thou must! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:28 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Hi scot. that is good to know, thanks. At least I should get any itunes related updates with supernova sinse I now have version 13, though supernova doesn't tend to change too much based on it's scripts the way say jaws does. The itunes thing is just a thought, but it's the one thing that slightly puts me off running out and buying a phone, sinse I did! want it for listening to the music and audio books I have on my pc. As to the price, well though it's a lot well I don't mind paying that sort of cash if I get several years use out of the thing, plus, the chap who's phone I examined paid ^£30 for the handset and then was on a £40 a month contract for two years, which worked out more expensive (my currentphone contract is £10 a month). My original laptop that I got in 2000 cost around £700 (yes, they were that expensive back then!), but it served me extremely well for the next five years, being used literally on a dayly basis, so I'm pretty happy that I got my money's worth. My second laptop that I got in 2005 cost around £350, but once again, it was completely used until 2010. indeed, it's still in full working order accept for the headphone socket (it's really irritating they can't be replaced). So I don't mind paying for something as long as it's something I use a lot, and it sounds like that with the Iphone, indeed my brother paid that for his and has used it extremely frequently for the last three years. Beware the grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave t
Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions
Fair enough. I didn't mean to sound confrontal about it. Was just curious is all. But I do hope it works out... I wasn't really a fan of apple until I got my ipod touch for cheap a while back... and now I love it. Even without and books, all the entertainment you can get from seemingly useless apps is awesome. lol - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Hi clemment. sinse I was as I said primarily interested in the Iphone for games related reasons, and sinse discussions of vo have been had before, I thought it would be okay, but if Tom or damien disagree fair enough. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Clement Chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Nice to hear you got the chance that it played with one! I actually use Window-eyes as well, so have no problem with ITunes... but I'm curious... isn't this considered off-topic? - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions I've personally had very little trouble with ITnes. Then again I use Window-Eyes, which is actually the screen reader Apple seems to recommend for the Windows version of ITunes. But I'm able to sync my IPod Touch and IPhone quite easily with ITunes since at least to a certain degree you do actually have conrol over what you put on your device. I can tell ITunes to put all Audiobooks on the IPod Touch but not on the IPhone itself. The only problem is that if I have Apps in m ITunes library that I want on the IPhone but not on the IPod Touch I have to actually delete them from ITunes before the next time I sync the IPod. ther than that though I find ITunes to work fairly reliably. Touch But thou must! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:28 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Hi scot. that is good to know, thanks. At least I should get any itunes related updates with supernova sinse I now have version 13, though supernova doesn't tend to change too much based on it's scripts the way say jaws does. The itunes thing is just a thought, but it's the one thing that slightly puts me off running out and buying a phone, sinse I did! want it for listening to the music and audio books I have on my pc. As to the price, well though it's a lot well I don't mind paying that sort of cash if I get several years use out of the thing, plus, the chap who's phone I examined paid ^£30 for the handset and then was on a £40 a month contract for two years, which worked out more expensive (my currentphone contract is £10 a month). My original laptop that I got in 2000 cost around £700 (yes, they were that expensive back then!), but it served me extremely well for the next five years, being used literally on a dayly basis, so I'm pretty happy that I got my money's worth. My second laptop that I got in 2005 cost around £350, but once again, it was completely used until 2010. indeed, it's still in full working order accept for the headphone socket (it's really irritating they can't be replaced). So I don't mind paying for something as long as it's something I use a lot, and it sounds like that with the Iphone, indeed my brother paid that for his and has used it extremely frequently for the last three years. Beware the grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your
Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions
Fair enough Tom, I'll try and stay on track, difficult though that is for me! :D. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Hi Dark and all, Well, obviously discussion of games for the iPhone are totally on topic here. As for sinking books, music, etc via iTunes that is a bit off topic as that is not really games related. So if we steer things back to games we'll be good to go. The topic of sinking music, books, is better for a different list. :D On 10/10/12, dark wrote: Hi clemment. sinse I was as I said primarily interested in the Iphone for games related reasons, and sinse discussions of vo have been had before, I thought it would be okay, but if Tom or damien disagree fair enough. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions
Hi Dark and all, Well, obviously discussion of games for the iPhone are totally on topic here. As for sinking books, music, etc via iTunes that is a bit off topic as that is not really games related. So if we steer things back to games we'll be good to go. The topic of sinking music, books, is better for a different list. :D On 10/10/12, dark wrote: > Hi clemment. > > sinse I was as I said primarily interested in the Iphone for games related > reasons, and sinse discussions of vo have been had before, I thought it > would be okay, but if Tom or damien disagree fair enough. > > Beware the grue! > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions
yeah clement I use itunes and for the most part nvda does read it. However there are many inaccessable buttons mostly having to do with the updating of applications, genius, home sharing and the like I could really do without. Itunes depending on pc config can be a monster to load. Aparently on older non touch ipods you can copy directly to them ofcause these would be the basic non advanced models. At 06:32 a.m. 10/10/2012 -0700, you wrote: Nice to hear you got the chance that it played with one! I actually use Window-eyes as well, so have no problem with ITunes... but I'm curious... isn't this considered off-topic? - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions I've personally had very little trouble with ITnes. Then again I use Window-Eyes, which is actually the screen reader Apple seems to recommend for the Windows version of ITunes. But I'm able to sync my IPod Touch and IPhone quite easily with ITunes since at least to a certain degree you do actually have conrol over what you put on your device. I can tell ITunes to put all Audiobooks on the IPod Touch but not on the IPhone itself. The only problem is that if I have Apps in m ITunes library that I want on the IPhone but not on the IPod Touch I have to actually delete them from ITunes before the next time I sync the IPod. ther than that though I find ITunes to work fairly reliably. Touch But thou must! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:28 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Hi scot. that is good to know, thanks. At least I should get any itunes related updates with supernova sinse I now have version 13, though supernova doesn't tend to change too much based on it's scripts the way say jaws does. The itunes thing is just a thought, but it's the one thing that slightly puts me off running out and buying a phone, sinse I did! want it for listening to the music and audio books I have on my pc. As to the price, well though it's a lot well I don't mind paying that sort of cash if I get several years use out of the thing, plus, the chap who's phone I examined paid ^£30 for the handset and then was on a £40 a month contract for two years, which worked out more expensive (my currentphone contract is £10 a month). My original laptop that I got in 2000 cost around £700 (yes, they were that expensive back then!), but it served me extremely well for the next five years, being used literally on a dayly basis, so I'm pretty happy that I got my money's worth. My second laptop that I got in 2005 cost around £350, but once again, it was completely used until 2010. indeed, it's still in full working order accept for the headphone socket (it's really irritating they can't be replaced). So I don't mind paying for something as long as it's something I use a lot, and it sounds like that with the Iphone, indeed my brother paid that for his and has used it extremely frequently for the last three years. Beware the grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailma
Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions
If you add the folder the books are in to the ITunes library ITunes will prompt you to convert those files to the ITunes format. Don't worry though, they'll still play just fine on your computer and not just in ITunes. Anyway say yes to the convertion. THe next time you sync your device with ITunes the books should be copied to it. Granted doing it manually this way can sometimes cause weird problems where a book gets copied to the IPod but it's listed as unknown. However if you have, say a book on CD, and ou rip it directly into ITunes itself that will not happen. The only downside is that you do have to rip each disc individually and then have to play it individually as well. If there's a more convenient way to do this I don't know. But I too would be interested in more accessible IOS games. But thou must! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:52 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Well I will see how supernova gets on with itunes, though I know it's had the capacity for a while now, though sinse putting audio books and such onto my iphone is one of the major things I want to do, i'll have to see how workable that solution is. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions I've personally had very little trouble with ITnes. Then again I use Window-Eyes, which is actually the screen reader Apple seems to recommend for the Windows version of ITunes. But I'm able to sync my IPod Touch and IPhone quite easily with ITunes since at least to a certain degree you do actually have conrol over what you put on your device. I can tell ITunes to put all Audiobooks on the IPod Touch but not on the IPhone itself. The only problem is that if I have Apps in m ITunes library that I want on the IPhone but not on the IPod Touch I have to actually delete them from ITunes before the next time I sync the IPod. ther than that though I find ITunes to work fairly reliably. Touch But thou must! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:28 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Hi scot. that is good to know, thanks. At least I should get any itunes related updates with supernova sinse I now have version 13, though supernova doesn't tend to change too much based on it's scripts the way say jaws does. The itunes thing is just a thought, but it's the one thing that slightly puts me off running out and buying a phone, sinse I did! want it for listening to the music and audio books I have on my pc. As to the price, well though it's a lot well I don't mind paying that sort of cash if I get several years use out of the thing, plus, the chap who's phone I examined paid ^£30 for the handset and then was on a £40 a month contract for two years, which worked out more expensive (my currentphone contract is £10 a month). My original laptop that I got in 2000 cost around £700 (yes, they were that expensive back then!), but it served me extremely well for the next five years, being used literally on a dayly basis, so I'm pretty happy that I got my money's worth. My second laptop that I got in 2005 cost around £350, but once again, it was completely used until 2010. indeed, it's still in full working order accept for the headphone socket (it's really irritating they can't be replaced). So I don't mind paying for something as long as it's something I use a lot, and it sounds like that with the Iphone, indeed my brother paid that for his and has used it extremely frequently for the last three years. Beware the grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers
Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions
Hi clemment. sinse I was as I said primarily interested in the Iphone for games related reasons, and sinse discussions of vo have been had before, I thought it would be okay, but if Tom or damien disagree fair enough. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Clement Chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Nice to hear you got the chance that it played with one! I actually use Window-eyes as well, so have no problem with ITunes... but I'm curious... isn't this considered off-topic? - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions I've personally had very little trouble with ITnes. Then again I use Window-Eyes, which is actually the screen reader Apple seems to recommend for the Windows version of ITunes. But I'm able to sync my IPod Touch and IPhone quite easily with ITunes since at least to a certain degree you do actually have conrol over what you put on your device. I can tell ITunes to put all Audiobooks on the IPod Touch but not on the IPhone itself. The only problem is that if I have Apps in m ITunes library that I want on the IPhone but not on the IPod Touch I have to actually delete them from ITunes before the next time I sync the IPod. ther than that though I find ITunes to work fairly reliably. Touch But thou must! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:28 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Hi scot. that is good to know, thanks. At least I should get any itunes related updates with supernova sinse I now have version 13, though supernova doesn't tend to change too much based on it's scripts the way say jaws does. The itunes thing is just a thought, but it's the one thing that slightly puts me off running out and buying a phone, sinse I did! want it for listening to the music and audio books I have on my pc. As to the price, well though it's a lot well I don't mind paying that sort of cash if I get several years use out of the thing, plus, the chap who's phone I examined paid ^£30 for the handset and then was on a £40 a month contract for two years, which worked out more expensive (my currentphone contract is £10 a month). My original laptop that I got in 2000 cost around £700 (yes, they were that expensive back then!), but it served me extremely well for the next five years, being used literally on a dayly basis, so I'm pretty happy that I got my money's worth. My second laptop that I got in 2005 cost around £350, but once again, it was completely used until 2010. indeed, it's still in full working order accept for the headphone socket (it's really irritating they can't be replaced). So I don't mind paying for something as long as it's something I use a lot, and it sounds like that with the Iphone, indeed my brother paid that for his and has used it extremely frequently for the last three years. Beware the grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.or
Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions
Well I will see how supernova gets on with itunes, though I know it's had the capacity for a while now, though sinse putting audio books and such onto my iphone is one of the major things I want to do, i'll have to see how workable that solution is. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions I've personally had very little trouble with ITnes. Then again I use Window-Eyes, which is actually the screen reader Apple seems to recommend for the Windows version of ITunes. But I'm able to sync my IPod Touch and IPhone quite easily with ITunes since at least to a certain degree you do actually have conrol over what you put on your device. I can tell ITunes to put all Audiobooks on the IPod Touch but not on the IPhone itself. The only problem is that if I have Apps in m ITunes library that I want on the IPhone but not on the IPod Touch I have to actually delete them from ITunes before the next time I sync the IPod. ther than that though I find ITunes to work fairly reliably. Touch But thou must! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:28 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Hi scot. that is good to know, thanks. At least I should get any itunes related updates with supernova sinse I now have version 13, though supernova doesn't tend to change too much based on it's scripts the way say jaws does. The itunes thing is just a thought, but it's the one thing that slightly puts me off running out and buying a phone, sinse I did! want it for listening to the music and audio books I have on my pc. As to the price, well though it's a lot well I don't mind paying that sort of cash if I get several years use out of the thing, plus, the chap who's phone I examined paid ^£30 for the handset and then was on a £40 a month contract for two years, which worked out more expensive (my currentphone contract is £10 a month). My original laptop that I got in 2000 cost around £700 (yes, they were that expensive back then!), but it served me extremely well for the next five years, being used literally on a dayly basis, so I'm pretty happy that I got my money's worth. My second laptop that I got in 2005 cost around £350, but once again, it was completely used until 2010. indeed, it's still in full working order accept for the headphone socket (it's really irritating they can't be replaced). So I don't mind paying for something as long as it's something I use a lot, and it sounds like that with the Iphone, indeed my brother paid that for his and has used it extremely frequently for the last three years. Beware the grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions
Nice to hear you got the chance that it played with one! I actually use Window-eyes as well, so have no problem with ITunes... but I'm curious... isn't this considered off-topic? - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions I've personally had very little trouble with ITnes. Then again I use Window-Eyes, which is actually the screen reader Apple seems to recommend for the Windows version of ITunes. But I'm able to sync my IPod Touch and IPhone quite easily with ITunes since at least to a certain degree you do actually have conrol over what you put on your device. I can tell ITunes to put all Audiobooks on the IPod Touch but not on the IPhone itself. The only problem is that if I have Apps in m ITunes library that I want on the IPhone but not on the IPod Touch I have to actually delete them from ITunes before the next time I sync the IPod. ther than that though I find ITunes to work fairly reliably. Touch But thou must! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:28 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Hi scot. that is good to know, thanks. At least I should get any itunes related updates with supernova sinse I now have version 13, though supernova doesn't tend to change too much based on it's scripts the way say jaws does. The itunes thing is just a thought, but it's the one thing that slightly puts me off running out and buying a phone, sinse I did! want it for listening to the music and audio books I have on my pc. As to the price, well though it's a lot well I don't mind paying that sort of cash if I get several years use out of the thing, plus, the chap who's phone I examined paid ^£30 for the handset and then was on a £40 a month contract for two years, which worked out more expensive (my currentphone contract is £10 a month). My original laptop that I got in 2000 cost around £700 (yes, they were that expensive back then!), but it served me extremely well for the next five years, being used literally on a dayly basis, so I'm pretty happy that I got my money's worth. My second laptop that I got in 2005 cost around £350, but once again, it was completely used until 2010. indeed, it's still in full working order accept for the headphone socket (it's really irritating they can't be replaced). So I don't mind paying for something as long as it's something I use a lot, and it sounds like that with the Iphone, indeed my brother paid that for his and has used it extremely frequently for the last three years. Beware the grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions
I've personally had very little trouble with ITnes. Then again I use Window-Eyes, which is actually the screen reader Apple seems to recommend for the Windows version of ITunes. But I'm able to sync my IPod Touch and IPhone quite easily with ITunes since at least to a certain degree you do actually have conrol over what you put on your device. I can tell ITunes to put all Audiobooks on the IPod Touch but not on the IPhone itself. The only problem is that if I have Apps in m ITunes library that I want on the IPhone but not on the IPod Touch I have to actually delete them from ITunes before the next time I sync the IPod. ther than that though I find ITunes to work fairly reliably. Touch But thou must! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:28 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions Hi scot. that is good to know, thanks. At least I should get any itunes related updates with supernova sinse I now have version 13, though supernova doesn't tend to change too much based on it's scripts the way say jaws does. The itunes thing is just a thought, but it's the one thing that slightly puts me off running out and buying a phone, sinse I did! want it for listening to the music and audio books I have on my pc. As to the price, well though it's a lot well I don't mind paying that sort of cash if I get several years use out of the thing, plus, the chap who's phone I examined paid ^£30 for the handset and then was on a £40 a month contract for two years, which worked out more expensive (my currentphone contract is £10 a month). My original laptop that I got in 2000 cost around £700 (yes, they were that expensive back then!), but it served me extremely well for the next five years, being used literally on a dayly basis, so I'm pretty happy that I got my money's worth. My second laptop that I got in 2005 cost around £350, but once again, it was completely used until 2010. indeed, it's still in full working order accept for the headphone socket (it's really irritating they can't be replaced). So I don't mind paying for something as long as it's something I use a lot, and it sounds like that with the Iphone, indeed my brother paid that for his and has used it extremely frequently for the last three years. Beware the grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions
Hi scot. that is good to know, thanks. At least I should get any itunes related updates with supernova sinse I now have version 13, though supernova doesn't tend to change too much based on it's scripts the way say jaws does. The itunes thing is just a thought, but it's the one thing that slightly puts me off running out and buying a phone, sinse I did! want it for listening to the music and audio books I have on my pc. As to the price, well though it's a lot well I don't mind paying that sort of cash if I get several years use out of the thing, plus, the chap who's phone I examined paid ^£30 for the handset and then was on a £40 a month contract for two years, which worked out more expensive (my currentphone contract is £10 a month). My original laptop that I got in 2000 cost around £700 (yes, they were that expensive back then!), but it served me extremely well for the next five years, being used literally on a dayly basis, so I'm pretty happy that I got my money's worth. My second laptop that I got in 2005 cost around £350, but once again, it was completely used until 2010. indeed, it's still in full working order accept for the headphone socket (it's really irritating they can't be replaced). So I don't mind paying for something as long as it's something I use a lot, and it sounds like that with the Iphone, indeed my brother paid that for his and has used it extremely frequently for the last three years. Beware the grue! dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Just tried an Iphone, my thoughts and questions
Hi Dark, Yep, £529 for the 16gb iPhone 5 on these here shores if you buy without a contract... ouch. Something that's worth keeping in mind is that iTunes 11 drops sometime soon, later this month if my memory serves, and there's been quite a big interface overhaul. The new UI seems less cluttered visually, though of course it remains to be seen whether the simplified workflow will also be an improvement for keyboard and screen reader users. Just thought it was worth mentioning, as depending on how fast you move to investigate the dreaded iTunes, you might have to do it twice lol. Scott On 10/10/12, dark wrote: > Well, this morning I just got a free play with an Iphone 5 running voice > over. > > On a basic level I was impressed. Some of the gestures I found more > difficult than others, for instance the three finger swipes I didn't quite > get the kknack of, but others were quite natural and I suspect I'd get more > used to it in time. The functions of the phone seemed fairly doable too, > indeed for kicks I tried searching the ap store for king of dragon pass, > managed to find it and read the game details, (I didn't play it because > obviously the chap who's phone I was examining didn't necessarily want the > game), though sinse it's games and gamebooks I'm mostly interested in on the > Iphone, I was pleased that was doable. > > the internet I found a little more problematic, I tried searching for > audiogames.net, and had a bit of trouble navigating google correctly. > > I also got a play with seri which seems a usefull system, though I was > disappointed when i was testing it's speech recognition that though it did! > know the word dalek, it didn't recognize cyberman and read it as spiderman! > :D. > > I also asked about commands to flick voice over on and off, lock the phone > for making phone calls etc, and all of that seemed doable. > > The only thing I didn't like the sound of is the fact that I can't just copy > my music and audio books onto the phone, sinse one reason I wanted one was > to serve as an effective music and audio player, but apparently apple > objects to this so it requires silly itunes, which i'm obviously going to > have to investigate. That is the one downer I found, indeed I might > considder just buying an mp3 player separately to do that job if Itunes > isn't going to behave. > > Voice over did look fun though, and I'd actually love to see some audio > games that make full use of screen position in this way, for instance I can > imagine playing a stratogy battle game could be far easier with a touch > screen sinse you could get physical positional information about the various > units relative locations and the map, similarly to reading soemthing in > braille but with the information being conveyed by audio. > > I'm now of course going to have to check out A, Itunes, and B, pricing, > sinse an Iphone 5 would be very expensive in the region of about 500 quid > apparently, and I'll C, check whether my current phone contract supports the > Iphone and has enough internet to make things work, (thus far I've not used > net so haven't got a very net heavy mobile phone contract, though it is a > cheap one and comes with a lot of free minutes). > > it does however look like a workable solution and a lot of fun, indeed sinse > if everything goes as planned next year I should be studdying voice in > Bermingham conservatoire, I would be doing a lot of commuting on trains, > and it'd be usefull to have something small and portable. > > Previously I've used my laptop, but the battery here is pretty dead, and i > would! like to try a lot of the iphone games, and more especially gamebooks. > > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
