Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread dark
Funnily enough, I never use the numbpad switch at all, I find it quite a 
pest, I just swap Hal to the function key command set, then turn the keys 
off whenever I want to play a game.


In fact the only game which really needs a numberpad and has no alternative 
whatsoever is monkey business.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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thats another reason I like toshiba.
it seems ot be the only laptop with a numeric pad on a function key.
this means almost every key is in reach.
this is good  for everything ofcause bar gaming, in fact the board is easy 
to wreck as I found out.

so gaming with an external board deffinately.
At least with this latest system its got a realtech hd.
Said hd seems to have input and output which means I can run mic or stereo 
mix only which is sucky if I want to review a game or talk over a game 
with my voice.

In fact I have no idea why they went to budjet cards.
Ok I semi take that back.
before realtech they had soundmax which although crappy did work nicely.
before that it was yamaha and all those rocked.
they were decent xg and fm cards.
Sadly that doesn't happen.
The speakers like to crackle I suspected card drivers but at the max 
driver  recomended for the system by toshiba I found it was at least 3 
years old.
worse still, the new driver made the crackling more pronounced and made 
the system loopy.

I downgraded and then it worked again as it should have.
apart from that its quite a nice thing to have this model.
At 05:11 p.m. 5/05/2010, you wrote:

Hi,
Oh, no big loss. I've been tempted to drop my Compaq on concrete just
to smash it on purpose. Lol!
Seriously though, I had the thing for only six months wen the dvd
drive bit the dust. Then I started having weird problems with the
right shift key not working.  So lets say Compaq got an ear full when
I sent it back to be serviced. I basically told them their notebooks
were crap as I've owned two other laptops made by different companies
that lasted far longer and without any serious problems, and I have
the Comcrap six months and it starts going to heck in a handbag. I'll
never recommend their computers to anyone ever again.

Smile.

On 5/4/10, shaun everiss  wrote:


well the dropping was a misjudging it dropped on the carpet.
its not the worst story I have heard, a friend dropped his on a concrete
floor, ok I admit my toshiba got mangled but it was ok.
this guy's compaq disintergrated it went into little bits.
smsh.
I never saw it but I'm glad that was not mine.


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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread shaun everiss
thats another reason I like toshiba.
it seems ot be the only laptop with a numeric pad on a function key.
this means almost every key is in reach.
this is good  for everything ofcause bar gaming, in fact the board is easy to 
wreck as I found out.
so gaming with an external board deffinately.
At least with this latest system its got a realtech hd.
Said hd seems to have input and output which means I can run mic or stereo mix 
only which is sucky if I want to review a game or talk over a game with my 
voice.
In fact I have no idea why they went to budjet cards.
Ok I semi take that back.
before realtech they had soundmax which although crappy did work nicely.
before that it was yamaha and all those rocked.
they were decent xg and fm cards.
Sadly that doesn't happen.
The speakers like to crackle I suspected card drivers but at the max driver  
recomended for the system by toshiba I found it was at least 3 years old.
worse still, the new driver made the crackling more pronounced and made the 
system loopy.
I downgraded and then it worked again as it should have.
apart from that its quite a nice thing to have this model.
At 05:11 p.m. 5/05/2010, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Oh, no big loss. I've been tempted to drop my Compaq on concrete just
>to smash it on purpose. Lol!
>Seriously though, I had the thing for only six months wen the dvd
>drive bit the dust. Then I started having weird problems with the
>right shift key not working.  So lets say Compaq got an ear full when
>I sent it back to be serviced. I basically told them their notebooks
>were crap as I've owned two other laptops made by different companies
>that lasted far longer and without any serious problems, and I have
>the Comcrap six months and it starts going to heck in a handbag. I'll
>never recommend their computers to anyone ever again.
>
>Smile.
>
>On 5/4/10, shaun everiss  wrote:
>> 
>> well the dropping was a misjudging it dropped on the carpet.
>> its not the worst story I have heard, a friend dropped his on a concrete
>> floor, ok I admit my toshiba got mangled but it was ok.
>> this guy's compaq disintergrated it went into little bits.
>> smsh.
>> I never saw it but I'm glad that was not mine.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
Oh, no big loss. I've been tempted to drop my Compaq on concrete just
to smash it on purpose. Lol!
Seriously though, I had the thing for only six months wen the dvd
drive bit the dust. Then I started having weird problems with the
right shift key not working.  So lets say Compaq got an ear full when
I sent it back to be serviced. I basically told them their notebooks
were crap as I've owned two other laptops made by different companies
that lasted far longer and without any serious problems, and I have
the Comcrap six months and it starts going to heck in a handbag. I'll
never recommend their computers to anyone ever again.

Smile.

On 5/4/10, shaun everiss  wrote:
> 
> well the dropping was a misjudging it dropped on the carpet.
> its not the worst story I have heard, a friend dropped his on a concrete
> floor, ok I admit my toshiba got mangled but it was ok.
> this guy's compaq disintergrated it went into little bits.
> smsh.
> I never saw it but I'm glad that was not mine.

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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread shaun everiss
oh man.
yeah those cups can easilly get knocked I never care for the plastic ones.
I have an external board for playing games.
never bothered with wireless because of batteries, etc I like wired usb when I 
use those which when I play games on the box web games are another matter but I 
suppose I should probably do that to.
At 03:36 p.m. 5/05/2010, you wrote:
>As far as the coffee goes,  well it wasn't one cup, it was more like half 
>a cup,  and a small cup from the thermos I used to take around school at 
>that.
>
>I didn't actually drop it, more sort of knocked it while stationary. Sinse 
>then I've always made certain to have laptops and coffee in separate places. 
>Even when i'm on a train, i use the table in the next seat for coffee,   
>or else hold the coffee in my hand while drinking it and not over my laptop.
>
>I will say though, that's the one great thing about wireless keyboards. I 
>frequently now sit around with drinks or food while I'm using my computer, but 
>only with the keyboard on my lap a long way away from anything else,  
>besides in my experience pc keyboards are far less senstative than laptop ones.
>My wireless keyboard has actually been sat on a couple of times and is none 
>the worse for ware,  something I'd never even risk doing with a laptop ;D.
>
>Beware the grue!
>
>Dark.
>- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" 
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>Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
>
>
>>
>>the nec was a joke I think the fan was broken loads or something.
>>the 1850, well it dropped then died after a good life.
>>the rest, inexperience mostly, the satelite, got hard labour for its entire 
>>life and although it had its failiers it was not to bad.
>>the other 2 the 310 and 4400 had their uses and forfilled them.
>>this current one seems to like mostly unless I do something stupid which I 
>>have done only about 4 times and in all cases I have managed to salvage it.
>>Desktop wise I seem to be having a good run with the latest 2 units we have 
>>though one is quite old.
>>
>>what did you do just out a intrest with the cofee how did it happen, i 
>>imagine you dropping an entire cup and all whilst distracted at least thats 
>>probably what I'd have happen.
>>I don't carry drinks round the unit or eat.
>>I am always amased  how sighted people can use the mouse with one hand, eat, 
>>put down the bowl drink, put down the cup, then type without either spilling 
>>or forgetting where the heck they were.
>>I don't know if I'd spill probably would at some point but I know I'd forget 
>>what I was doing.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread shaun everiss

well the dropping was a misjudging it dropped on the carpet.
its not the worst story I have heard, a friend dropped his on a concrete floor, 
ok I admit my toshiba got mangled but it was ok.
this guy's compaq disintergrated it went into little bits.
smsh.
I never saw it but I'm glad that was not mine.

Desktop wise the latest 2 are ok, the one I had before that had a good life and 
is now dead though it was a bad boy requiring reformats.
strangely though it was slow xp fixed it, so it didn't care about win98.
maybe it wanted another os?
This record is broken with the first windows box which came from a bankrupt 
company.
we can see why.
things kept failing.
Reformats and more reformats. etc.
OFcause we had time then even my dad had time.
It was rebuilt with bits and bobs.
however thats all gone now.
I struggled to replace the main dvd drive on the main pc last year because of 
time to rebuild it.
the system needed a  major hard drive and dust clearout and I decided to use a 
dvd module I was not using at the time.
it all worked but that was a struggle.
we also couldn't leave it down for to long as it was one of the main systems at 
the time.
At 01:01 p.m. 5/05/2010, you wrote:
>Hi Shaun,
>Sheesh, man! You are pretty rough on your laptops. Lol!
>I've never had that much problem with any computer laptop or desktop
>that I can recall.  If it is a desktop that has a hardware failior I
>tend to replace the parts manually if it is something I can fix.
>Laptops I just tend to take care of as best I can so they don't get
>destroyed. Only Once haveI actually dropped a laptop and wonder of
>wonders it lived to run another day without serious damage. Although,
>I don't feel too bad for your NEC. I hate that brand with a passion.
>
>Cheers!
>
>
>On 5/4/10, shaun everiss  wrote:
>> well since we are talking about laptops I have had several.
>> my t1850 with the keynot gold synth which lasted from 1993 till 2001
>> It got dropped, once had hard drives floppy drives keyboards 2 power modules
>> and a mains plug.
>> I used it as a main system for some time but it became a games box which
>> unfortunately ended when it decided its drives would all die at once.
>>
>> my next was in 1996 it was a satelite 310cds.
>> this lasted to about 2001 as a main box.
>> running win95 and later 98se with its bios upgraded to version 8.0.
>> this was the only system that ever had a bios upgrade at all or that needed
>> upgrading.
>>
>> 2002-2004.
>> I decide to go with a funding agency and on their recomendation got a raw
>> deal with a nec versa.
>> yes the 310 was still going strong but it was rather useless and slow.
>> the worst system I ever had, had a mangled fan though unproven and required
>> reformatting every week or so to keep it working.
>> I used to spend half the time using it, a quarter of the time fixing it and
>> the rest bashint it literally in frustration.
>> it would break down in the most opertune circumstances like just before an
>> exam.
>> G.
>> I finally did a bios update to fix it and the update didn't go so well.
>> the main board died and I was happily able to replace the box.
>> after that I got a toshiba again, a satelite a9.
>> It was thankfully good and has lasted me till 2007 when its dvd drive burned
>> out.
>>  as a resolt I can't recover the box.
>> the screen is loose and floppy too.
>> after that I got an old toshiba 4400 which was for linux on tech, which I
>> used for what it was worth it was usefull.
>> I had it for a year then got rid of it.
>> The current system my tecra a9 has to its credit although trying to get me
>> to reformat has not had me needing to although I have almost given up on it
>> at times.
>> its format process requires sight though and I am happy its gone ok for this
>> long even with the abuse its got which is not to much though its keyboard
>> was just replaced last month.
>> Its probably gona last me till it burns its cpu.
>>
>> Ofcause not all the laptops are dead.
>>
>> my 4400 is now an email system for my mums friend or one of them.
>> it does what it needs to do.
>> my 310 was traded for a couple disks of mp3s and is happily making someone
>> happy.
>> my a10 satelite if I ever manage to replace the fan, cd drive and screen
>> hinges will ride again though with its single core cpu there is probably not
>> much point.
>>
>> my 1850 will work if I ever got the components, though I dropped it again
>> while trying to fix it resulting in smoking batteries and broken casings so
>> I think thats unlikely.
>> My nec is in hell and I hope it stays there.
>> disturbingly though it was the cheapest system on one of the us sites I
>> think cnet or something.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread dark
As far as the coffee goes,  well it wasn't one cup, it was more like 
half a cup,  and a small cup from the thermos I used to take around 
school at that.


I didn't actually drop it, more sort of knocked it while stationary. Sinse 
then I've always made certain to have laptops and coffee in separate places. 
Even when i'm on a train, i use the table in the next seat for coffee,   
or else hold the coffee in my hand while drinking it and not over my laptop.


I will say though, that's the one great thing about wireless keyboards. I 
frequently now sit around with drinks or food while I'm using my computer, 
but only with the keyboard on my lap a long way away from anything 
else,  besides in my experience pc keyboards are far less senstative 
than laptop ones.
My wireless keyboard has actually been sat on a couple of times and is none 
the worse for ware,  something I'd never even risk doing with a laptop 
;D.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook




the nec was a joke I think the fan was broken loads or something.
the 1850, well it dropped then died after a good life.
the rest, inexperience mostly, the satelite, got hard labour for its 
entire life and although it had its failiers it was not to bad.

the other 2 the 310 and 4400 had their uses and forfilled them.
this current one seems to like mostly unless I do something stupid which I 
have done only about 4 times and in all cases I have managed to salvage 
it.
Desktop wise I seem to be having a good run with the latest 2 units we 
have though one is quite old.


what did you do just out a intrest with the cofee how did it happen, i 
imagine you dropping an entire cup and all whilst distracted at least 
thats probably what I'd have happen.

I don't carry drinks round the unit or eat.
I am always amased  how sighted people can use the mouse with one hand, 
eat, put down the bowl drink, put down the cup, then type without either 
spilling or forgetting where the heck they were.
I don't know if I'd spill probably would at some point but I know I'd 
forget what I was doing.



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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread shaun everiss
well my main reason for the toshiba obsession if you will is 2 fold
1.  the fact they don't break, unless they are mangled in some way.
ok I admit the first one was dropped.
the 3rd one had dead fans a dead headphone jack, a dead lid a dead modem at one 
stage and a dead dvd drive but thats about it.
and it did not happen all at once.
most of the issues came at its end life the other came at the beginning.
This tecra has had its close calls but bar the keyboard  and some stupid things 
to do with some recording software for a piece of semi broken hardware which I 
will not use anymore anyway its been ok.
Every time it really breaks I  almos go as far as calling someone to reformat 
but I usually fix it and then although bits don't work its like well its ok and 
I can do without most of this anyway.
I like the fact the bios is accessable from the os though.
even in the 1850 I could access it in dos as long as I had no 386 managers 
active.
there was a brief period where in win9x time the manuals were not that 
accessible and before where I had no manual at all.
But lately its all pdf which can be converted to text and its all ok.
Support is mostly helpfull to and I havn't had any complaints.
Now I wish toshiba made a desktop.
I'd switch everyone over to that.
Another thing I like about toshiba is its bios update, it will load the update 
disk say, then compair it with the bios currently loaded.
In older units say the 1850 you had to boot to dos and run a program.
with the newer units say the 310 and up you pushed a couple keys and it updated 
from a disk.
lately you can only get the windows download but that does the same as the old 
versions.
Also they do try to emulate the bios setup as closely to what appears in the os.
firstly it was a program in dos then in win95-98 it was all a windows program 
now its a control panel.
so I definately will stay with toshiba.
They are also extremely quiet.
At 01:07 p.m. 5/05/2010, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Yeah, I'm a fan of Toshiba myself.  Although, I haven't actually owned
>one I know plenty of people who do, have worked on them in the field,
>and they are ranked amung my favorite laptops. I think whenever my
>Compaq goes my next will likely be a Toshiba.
>
>
>On 5/4/10, dark  wrote:
>> Actually tom, I can beat that.
>>
>> My old uni laptop, a toshiba was bought in 2000, and I used it up until
>> 2006, and until i got my desktop in 2005, it was pretty much used for
>> several hours every day. In fact the only thing that went on it was the fan
>> (my dad actually started using it recently just to do basic word processing,
>> though he's sinse bought a newer model and my old machine has been consigned
>> to the dustbin of history).
>>
>> the most extreme though is my brother's Toshiba. He had his original machine
>> stolen during a burglary in 1997, containing all the work for his A-levels.
>> Dolphin physically built him one within 10 days (this was in the days when
>> you couldn't install a program like supernova without assistance, so it was
>> better done in the shop), and sent it out.
>>
>> he stopped using it as a main work machine in 2005, and sinse bought a
>> smaller netbook as a basic note taker. however, my mum is stil! using that
>> machine, complete with it's install of windows 95 as a word processer
>> now,  and it stil! works! Admittedly, sinse my brother used consoles for
>> his gaming, i don't believe it saw quite as much use as mine as it was
>> basically used for word processing and net brousing, --- but stil it must be
>> a record.
>>
>> As you might gather, we all like toshiba as a make.
>>
>> I did once use an acer, but found it ridiculously buggy and prone to
>> overheat, even though it was scarcely six months old.
>>
>> The only issue with toshibas I've noticed is to be careful with the
>> batteries, and remember to keep running them down, even when unnecessary.
>>
>> i bought two new batteries for my toshiba last year, and I try to run them
>> down to nothing even when I've got a power point handy. Their stil taking
>> full chaarge, which is good. Admittedly that's only about 200 minutes per
>> battery, not like the battery life on some more modern machines, but having
>> two of them helps a lot.
>>
>> Beware the grue!
>>
>> Dark.
>>
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread shaun everiss

the nec was a joke I think the fan was broken loads or something.
the 1850, well it dropped then died after a good life.
 the rest, inexperience mostly, the satelite, got hard labour for its entire 
life and although it had its failiers it was not to bad.
the other 2 the 310 and 4400 had their uses and forfilled them.
this current one seems to like mostly unless I do something stupid which I have 
done only about 4 times and in all cases I have managed to salvage it.
Desktop wise I seem to be having a good run with the latest 2 units we have 
though one is quite old.

what did you do just out a intrest with the cofee how did it happen, i imagine 
you dropping an entire cup and all whilst distracted at least thats probably 
what I'd have happen.
I don't carry drinks round the unit or eat.
I am always amased  how sighted people can use the mouse with one hand, eat, 
put down the bowl drink, put down the cup, then type without either spilling or 
forgetting where the heck they were.
I don't know if I'd spill probably would at some point but I know I'd forget 
what I was doing.
At 01:56 p.m. 5/05/2010, you wrote:
>I managed to drop a laptop at the age of 15, but all that went was the 
>keyboard which was pretty easily replaced, then At the age of 16, I had my 
>first and only coffee related laptop incident, which I've been careful never 
>to repeat.
>
>Ironically, according to the repair shot I took it to, only 8 k was deleted 
>and once the innards had been dried it worked fine (I never actually 
>discovered what had! in fact been deleted).
>
>Apart from worn out fans, i don't think I've ever had another laptop 
>destruction,  or at least not so far.
>
>Possibly Sean, your laptops are rebelling at being reformated so much ;D.
>
>Beware the Grue!
>
>Dark.
>- Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" 
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>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook
>
>
>>Hi Shaun,
>>Sheesh, man! You are pretty rough on your laptops. Lol!
>>I've never had that much problem with any computer laptop or desktop
>>that I can recall.  If it is a desktop that has a hardware failior I
>>tend to replace the parts manually if it is something I can fix.
>>Laptops I just tend to take care of as best I can so they don't get
>>destroyed. Only Once haveI actually dropped a laptop and wonder of
>>wonders it lived to run another day without serious damage. Although,
>>I don't feel too bad for your NEC. I hate that brand with a passion.
>>
>>Cheers!
>>
>>
>>On 5/4/10, shaun everiss  wrote:
>>>well since we are talking about laptops I have had several.
>>>my t1850 with the keynot gold synth which lasted from 1993 till 2001
>>>It got dropped, once had hard drives floppy drives keyboards 2 power modules
>>>and a mains plug.
>>>I used it as a main system for some time but it became a games box which
>>>unfortunately ended when it decided its drives would all die at once.
>>>
>>>my next was in 1996 it was a satelite 310cds.
>>>this lasted to about 2001 as a main box.
>>>running win95 and later 98se with its bios upgraded to version 8.0.
>>>this was the only system that ever had a bios upgrade at all or that needed
>>>upgrading.
>>>
>>>2002-2004.
>>>I decide to go with a funding agency and on their recomendation got a raw
>>>deal with a nec versa.
>>>yes the 310 was still going strong but it was rather useless and slow.
>>>the worst system I ever had, had a mangled fan though unproven and required
>>>reformatting every week or so to keep it working.
>>>I used to spend half the time using it, a quarter of the time fixing it and
>>>the rest bashint it literally in frustration.
>>>it would break down in the most opertune circumstances like just before an
>>>exam.
>>>G.
>>>I finally did a bios update to fix it and the update didn't go so well.
>>>the main board died and I was happily able to replace the box.
>>>after that I got a toshiba again, a satelite a9.
>>>It was thankfully good and has lasted me till 2007 when its dvd drive burned
>>>out.
>>> as a resolt I can't recover the box.
>>>the screen is loose and floppy too.
>>>after that I got an old toshiba 4400 which was for linux on tech, which I
>>>used for what it was worth it was usefull.
>>>I had it for a year then got rid of it.
>>>The current system my tecra a9 has to its credit although trying to get me
>>>to reformat has not had me needing to although I have almost 

Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael,
Is it a notebook or a netbook computer. There is a big difference
between the two here.

Smile.


On 5/4/10, michael barnes  wrote:
> man i love having a notebook or laptop what ever people call it.  i
> have been using one for over a year and i like that i can take my stuff
> with me when i go on trips.  like this coming july i'll be going out of
> town and i'll be able to play all my games.  the other thing is that i
> havn't had any problem with my computer.  some of the trouble i had
> with my notebook is stupid stuff i have done on it.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
Lol! That's for sure. I have never known anyone who likes to format as
much as Shaun does. It is his personal obsession I think.  Sometimes
I'll do one once a year or so to make sure everything is in maximum
working condition but that is backing up from images so generally that
is a quick and easy process. Once I install the image I'll run any and
all upgrades, make a new image, and go on. However,  I think Shaun
does it whenever and if ever he can just to do it.  Poor computer. If
I were it I'd die too from all the abuse.

On 5/4/10, dark  wrote:
> I managed to drop a laptop at the age of 15, but all that went was the
> keyboard which was pretty easily replaced, then At the age of 16, I had my
> first and only coffee related laptop incident, which I've been careful never
> to repeat.
>
> Ironically, according to the repair shot I took it to, only 8 k was deleted
> and once the innards had been dried it worked fine (I never actually
> discovered what had! in fact been deleted).
>
> Apart from worn out fans, i don't think I've ever had another laptop
> destruction,  or at least not so far.
>
> Possibly Sean, your laptops are rebelling at being reformated so much ;D.
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread michael barnes
man i love having a notebook or laptop what ever people call it.  i 
have been using one for over a year and i like that i can take my stuff 
with me when i go on trips.  like this coming july i'll be going out of 
town and i'll be able to play all my games.  the other thing is that i 
havn't had any problem with my computer.  some of the trouble i had 
with my notebook is stupid stuff i have done on it.


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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread dark
I managed to drop a laptop at the age of 15, but all that went was the 
keyboard which was pretty easily replaced, then At the age of 16, I had my 
first and only coffee related laptop incident, which I've been careful never 
to repeat.


Ironically, according to the repair shot I took it to, only 8 k was deleted 
and once the innards had been dried it worked fine (I never actually 
discovered what had! in fact been deleted).


Apart from worn out fans, i don't think I've ever had another laptop 
destruction,  or at least not so far.


Possibly Sean, your laptops are rebelling at being reformated so much ;D.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Hi Shaun,
Sheesh, man! You are pretty rough on your laptops. Lol!
I've never had that much problem with any computer laptop or desktop
that I can recall.  If it is a desktop that has a hardware failior I
tend to replace the parts manually if it is something I can fix.
Laptops I just tend to take care of as best I can so they don't get
destroyed. Only Once haveI actually dropped a laptop and wonder of
wonders it lived to run another day without serious damage. Although,
I don't feel too bad for your NEC. I hate that brand with a passion.

Cheers!


On 5/4/10, shaun everiss  wrote:

well since we are talking about laptops I have had several.
my t1850 with the keynot gold synth which lasted from 1993 till 2001
It got dropped, once had hard drives floppy drives keyboards 2 power 
modules

and a mains plug.
I used it as a main system for some time but it became a games box which
unfortunately ended when it decided its drives would all die at once.

my next was in 1996 it was a satelite 310cds.
this lasted to about 2001 as a main box.
running win95 and later 98se with its bios upgraded to version 8.0.
this was the only system that ever had a bios upgrade at all or that 
needed

upgrading.

2002-2004.
I decide to go with a funding agency and on their recomendation got a raw
deal with a nec versa.
yes the 310 was still going strong but it was rather useless and slow.
the worst system I ever had, had a mangled fan though unproven and 
required

reformatting every week or so to keep it working.
I used to spend half the time using it, a quarter of the time fixing it 
and

the rest bashint it literally in frustration.
it would break down in the most opertune circumstances like just before 
an

exam.
G.
I finally did a bios update to fix it and the update didn't go so well.
the main board died and I was happily able to replace the box.
after that I got a toshiba again, a satelite a9.
It was thankfully good and has lasted me till 2007 when its dvd drive 
burned

out.
 as a resolt I can't recover the box.
the screen is loose and floppy too.
after that I got an old toshiba 4400 which was for linux on tech, which I
used for what it was worth it was usefull.
I had it for a year then got rid of it.
The current system my tecra a9 has to its credit although trying to get 
me
to reformat has not had me needing to although I have almost given up on 
it

at times.
its format process requires sight though and I am happy its gone ok for 
this

long even with the abuse its got which is not to much though its keyboard
was just replaced last month.
Its probably gona last me till it burns its cpu.

Ofcause not all the laptops are dead.

my 4400 is now an email system for my mums friend or one of them.
it does what it needs to do.
my 310 was traded for a couple disks of mp3s and is happily making 
someone

happy.
my a10 satelite if I ever manage to replace the fan, cd drive and screen
hinges will ride again though with its single core cpu there is probably 
not

much point.

my 1850 will work if I ever got the components, though I dropped it again
while trying to fix it resulting in smoking batteries and broken casings 
so

I think thats unlikely.
My nec is in hell and I hope it stays there.
disturbingly though it was the cheapest system on one of the us sites I
think cnet or something.


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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
Yeah, I'm a fan of Toshiba myself.  Although, I haven't actually owned
one I know plenty of people who do, have worked on them in the field,
and they are ranked amung my favorite laptops. I think whenever my
Compaq goes my next will likely be a Toshiba.


On 5/4/10, dark  wrote:
> Actually tom, I can beat that.
>
> My old uni laptop, a toshiba was bought in 2000, and I used it up until
> 2006, and until i got my desktop in 2005, it was pretty much used for
> several hours every day. In fact the only thing that went on it was the fan
> (my dad actually started using it recently just to do basic word processing,
> though he's sinse bought a newer model and my old machine has been consigned
> to the dustbin of history).
>
> the most extreme though is my brother's Toshiba. He had his original machine
> stolen during a burglary in 1997, containing all the work for his A-levels.
> Dolphin physically built him one within 10 days (this was in the days when
> you couldn't install a program like supernova without assistance, so it was
> better done in the shop), and sent it out.
>
> he stopped using it as a main work machine in 2005, and sinse bought a
> smaller netbook as a basic note taker. however, my mum is stil! using that
> machine, complete with it's install of windows 95 as a word processer
> now,  and it stil! works! Admittedly, sinse my brother used consoles for
> his gaming, i don't believe it saw quite as much use as mine as it was
> basically used for word processing and net brousing, --- but stil it must be
> a record.
>
> As you might gather, we all like toshiba as a make.
>
> I did once use an acer, but found it ridiculously buggy and prone to
> overheat, even though it was scarcely six months old.
>
> The only issue with toshibas I've noticed is to be careful with the
> batteries, and remember to keep running them down, even when unnecessary.
>
> i bought two new batteries for my toshiba last year, and I try to run them
> down to nothing even when I've got a power point handy. Their stil taking
> full chaarge, which is good. Admittedly that's only about 200 minutes per
> battery, not like the battery life on some more modern machines, but having
> two of them helps a lot.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,
Sheesh, man! You are pretty rough on your laptops. Lol!
I've never had that much problem with any computer laptop or desktop
that I can recall.  If it is a desktop that has a hardware failior I
tend to replace the parts manually if it is something I can fix.
Laptops I just tend to take care of as best I can so they don't get
destroyed. Only Once haveI actually dropped a laptop and wonder of
wonders it lived to run another day without serious damage. Although,
I don't feel too bad for your NEC. I hate that brand with a passion.

Cheers!


On 5/4/10, shaun everiss  wrote:
> well since we are talking about laptops I have had several.
> my t1850 with the keynot gold synth which lasted from 1993 till 2001
> It got dropped, once had hard drives floppy drives keyboards 2 power modules
> and a mains plug.
> I used it as a main system for some time but it became a games box which
> unfortunately ended when it decided its drives would all die at once.
>
> my next was in 1996 it was a satelite 310cds.
> this lasted to about 2001 as a main box.
> running win95 and later 98se with its bios upgraded to version 8.0.
> this was the only system that ever had a bios upgrade at all or that needed
> upgrading.
>
> 2002-2004.
> I decide to go with a funding agency and on their recomendation got a raw
> deal with a nec versa.
> yes the 310 was still going strong but it was rather useless and slow.
> the worst system I ever had, had a mangled fan though unproven and required
> reformatting every week or so to keep it working.
> I used to spend half the time using it, a quarter of the time fixing it and
> the rest bashint it literally in frustration.
> it would break down in the most opertune circumstances like just before an
> exam.
> G.
> I finally did a bios update to fix it and the update didn't go so well.
> the main board died and I was happily able to replace the box.
> after that I got a toshiba again, a satelite a9.
> It was thankfully good and has lasted me till 2007 when its dvd drive burned
> out.
>  as a resolt I can't recover the box.
> the screen is loose and floppy too.
> after that I got an old toshiba 4400 which was for linux on tech, which I
> used for what it was worth it was usefull.
> I had it for a year then got rid of it.
> The current system my tecra a9 has to its credit although trying to get me
> to reformat has not had me needing to although I have almost given up on it
> at times.
> its format process requires sight though and I am happy its gone ok for this
> long even with the abuse its got which is not to much though its keyboard
> was just replaced last month.
> Its probably gona last me till it burns its cpu.
>
> Ofcause not all the laptops are dead.
>
> my 4400 is now an email system for my mums friend or one of them.
> it does what it needs to do.
> my 310 was traded for a couple disks of mp3s and is happily making someone
> happy.
> my a10 satelite if I ever manage to replace the fan, cd drive and screen
> hinges will ride again though with its single core cpu there is probably not
> much point.
>
> my 1850 will work if I ever got the components, though I dropped it again
> while trying to fix it resulting in smoking batteries and broken casings so
> I think thats unlikely.
> My nec is in hell and I hope it stays there.
> disturbingly though it was the cheapest system on one of the us sites I
> think cnet or something.

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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread dark

Actually tom, I can beat that.

My old uni laptop, a toshiba was bought in 2000, and I used it up until 
2006, and until i got my desktop in 2005, it was pretty much used for 
several hours every day. In fact the only thing that went on it was the fan 
(my dad actually started using it recently just to do basic word processing, 
though he's sinse bought a newer model and my old machine has been consigned 
to the dustbin of history).


the most extreme though is my brother's Toshiba. He had his original machine 
stolen during a burglary in 1997, containing all the work for his A-levels. 
Dolphin physically built him one within 10 days (this was in the days when 
you couldn't install a program like supernova without assistance, so it was 
better done in the shop), and sent it out.


he stopped using it as a main work machine in 2005, and sinse bought a 
smaller netbook as a basic note taker. however, my mum is stil! using that 
machine, complete with it's install of windows 95 as a word processer 
now,  and it stil! works! Admittedly, sinse my brother used consoles for 
his gaming, i don't believe it saw quite as much use as mine as it was 
basically used for word processing and net brousing, --- but stil it must be 
a record.


As you might gather, we all like toshiba as a make.

I did once use an acer, but found it ridiculously buggy and prone to 
overheat, even though it was scarcely six months old.


The only issue with toshibas I've noticed is to be careful with the 
batteries, and remember to keep running them down, even when unnecessary.


i bought two new batteries for my toshiba last year, and I try to run them 
down to nothing even when I've got a power point handy. Their stil taking 
full chaarge, which is good. Admittedly that's only about 200 minutes per 
battery, not like the battery life on some more modern machines, but having 
two of them helps a lot.


Beware the grue!

Dark. 



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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread shaun everiss
well since we are talking about laptops I have had several.
my t1850 with the keynot gold synth which lasted from 1993 till 2001 
It got dropped, once had hard drives floppy drives keyboards 2 power modules 
and a mains plug.
I used it as a main system for some time but it became a games box which 
unfortunately ended when it decided its drives would all die at once.

my next was in 1996 it was a satelite 310cds.
this lasted to about 2001 as a main box.
running win95 and later 98se with its bios upgraded to version 8.0.
this was the only system that ever had a bios upgrade at all or that needed 
upgrading.

2002-2004.
I decide to go with a funding agency and on their recomendation got a raw deal 
with a nec versa.
yes the 310 was still going strong but it was rather useless and slow.
the worst system I ever had, had a mangled fan though unproven and required 
reformatting every week or so to keep it working.
I used to spend half the time using it, a quarter of the time fixing it and the 
rest bashint it literally in frustration.
it would break down in the most opertune circumstances like just before an exam.
G.
I finally did a bios update to fix it and the update didn't go so well.
the main board died and I was happily able to replace the box.
after that I got a toshiba again, a satelite a9.
It was thankfully good and has lasted me till 2007 when its dvd drive burned 
out.
 as a resolt I can't recover the box.
the screen is loose and floppy too.
after that I got an old toshiba 4400 which was for linux on tech, which I used 
for what it was worth it was usefull.
I had it for a year then got rid of it.
The current system my tecra a9 has to its credit although trying to get me to 
reformat has not had me needing to although I have almost given up on it at 
times.
its format process requires sight though and I am happy its gone ok for this 
long even with the abuse its got which is not to much though its keyboard was 
just replaced last month.
Its probably gona last me till it burns its cpu.

Ofcause not all the laptops are dead.

my 4400 is now an email system for my mums friend or one of them.
it does what it needs to do.
my 310 was traded for a couple disks of mp3s and is happily making someone 
happy.
my a10 satelite if I ever manage to replace the fan, cd drive and screen hinges 
will ride again though with its single core cpu there is probably not much 
point.

my 1850 will work if I ever got the components, though I dropped it again while 
trying to fix it resulting in smoking batteries and broken casings so I think 
thats unlikely.
My nec is in hell and I hope it stays there.
disturbingly though it was the cheapest system on one of the us sites I think 
cnet or something.
At 04:38 a.m. 5/05/2010, you wrote:
>Hi dark,
>Yeah, I've found laptops to be pretty rugged in design. My first
>laptop I purchased in 1998 and I used it clear up until 2004 or so
>when it was just too out of date to be practical any more.  My next
>laptop was an Averitech 6200 which I recently sold to my dad, and it
>still works decently, but he upgraded it and now it works as good as
>new. A bit old as far as laptops go, but is still mostly good enough
>for day to day use. My current laptop is a Compaq 800 series notebook
>which I purchased in 2008 and I figure it will last me for a few more
>years yet. It runs Windows 7 just fine, and does everything I want it
>to do. The dvd burner died a while back, but I sent it in, got it
>serviced, and now it is as good as new.
>
>Smile.
>
>On 5/3/10, dark  wrote:
>> Hi Tom.
>>
>> Well bare in mind that I grew up carting laptops around in the days when it
>> wasn't uncommon for a machine to have a floppy drive and cd drive as well, a
>> full sized keyboard and a 15 inch screen, so my deffinitions of "slim line"
>> are rather different to other peoples ;D.
>>
>> I'm currently using a toshiba I got in 2005. I'km not quite sure on ram etc,
>> but I've yet to find an application it won't run, and though it doesn't have
>> a dvd burner, it does have a very passable rewrite cd drive.
>>
>> In fact the only thing about it I find a pain is that it only has 32 gb of
>> storage space,  which practically means I can't keep my entire music and
>> audio library on it, though i have got copies of all audio games.
>>
>> I did look at net books for interests' sake as much as anything, and because
>> as far as past experience goes the operational life of a laptop I've found
>> tends to be roughly 7 years, and I am taking my laptop around to various
>> places, up and down the country on trains, to the Italian alps and even
>> crusing down the Nile in egypt.
>>
>> I suspect whatever machine I buy next will simply be smaller, just by virtue
>> of being smaller, but I have no intention of skimping on features. Indeed,
>> probably the only feature I won't bother with is a screen, sinse I generally
>> find below 21 inches is my limit for visible screen size,  though of
>> course I don't really need the s

Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi dark,
Yeah, I've found laptops to be pretty rugged in design. My first
laptop I purchased in 1998 and I used it clear up until 2004 or so
when it was just too out of date to be practical any more.  My next
laptop was an Averitech 6200 which I recently sold to my dad, and it
still works decently, but he upgraded it and now it works as good as
new. A bit old as far as laptops go, but is still mostly good enough
for day to day use. My current laptop is a Compaq 800 series notebook
which I purchased in 2008 and I figure it will last me for a few more
years yet. It runs Windows 7 just fine, and does everything I want it
to do. The dvd burner died a while back, but I sent it in, got it
serviced, and now it is as good as new.

Smile.

On 5/3/10, dark  wrote:
> Hi Tom.
>
> Well bare in mind that I grew up carting laptops around in the days when it
> wasn't uncommon for a machine to have a floppy drive and cd drive as well, a
> full sized keyboard and a 15 inch screen, so my deffinitions of "slim line"
> are rather different to other peoples ;D.
>
> I'm currently using a toshiba I got in 2005. I'km not quite sure on ram etc,
> but I've yet to find an application it won't run, and though it doesn't have
> a dvd burner, it does have a very passable rewrite cd drive.
>
> In fact the only thing about it I find a pain is that it only has 32 gb of
> storage space,  which practically means I can't keep my entire music and
> audio library on it, though i have got copies of all audio games.
>
> I did look at net books for interests' sake as much as anything, and because
> as far as past experience goes the operational life of a laptop I've found
> tends to be roughly 7 years, and I am taking my laptop around to various
> places, up and down the country on trains, to the Italian alps and even
> crusing down the Nile in egypt.
>
> I suspect whatever machine I buy next will simply be smaller, just by virtue
> of being smaller, but I have no intention of skimping on features. Indeed,
> probably the only feature I won't bother with is a screen, sinse I generally
> find below 21 inches is my limit for visible screen size,  though of
> course I don't really need the screen for all that much anyway.
>
> Oh, and I hate! those mini keyboards with a pattion! I really don't think
> they were made with touch typing in mind,  particularly not at the sort
> of speed I tend to type at.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-03 Thread william lomas
i only have 1 gig in my samsung nc10 at the moment so i will try 2 but we see

On 3 May 2010, at 18:27, michael barnes wrote:

> Hey Will.  i disagree with Thomas because i have a notebook.  and i'm runing 
> two gb. of ram and it runs the games just great.  i have at least forty games.
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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-03 Thread michael barnes
Hey dark.  like i said i have not any trouble with the notebook that i 
have.  it run just fine.


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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-03 Thread michael barnes
Hey Will.  i disagree with Thomas because i have a notebook.  and i'm 
runing two gb. of ram and it runs the games just great.  i have at 
least forty games.


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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-03 Thread dark

Hi Tom.

Well bare in mind that I grew up carting laptops around in the days when it 
wasn't uncommon for a machine to have a floppy drive and cd drive as well, a 
full sized keyboard and a 15 inch screen, so my deffinitions of "slim line" 
are rather different to other peoples ;D.


I'm currently using a toshiba I got in 2005. I'km not quite sure on ram etc, 
but I've yet to find an application it won't run, and though it doesn't have 
a dvd burner, it does have a very passable rewrite cd drive.


In fact the only thing about it I find a pain is that it only has 32 gb of 
storage space,  which practically means I can't keep my entire music and 
audio library on it, though i have got copies of all audio games.


I did look at net books for interests' sake as much as anything, and because 
as far as past experience goes the operational life of a laptop I've found 
tends to be roughly 7 years, and I am taking my laptop around to various 
places, up and down the country on trains, to the Italian alps and even 
crusing down the Nile in egypt.


I suspect whatever machine I buy next will simply be smaller, just by virtue 
of being smaller, but I have no intention of skimping on features. Indeed, 
probably the only feature I won't bother with is a screen, sinse I generally 
find below 21 inches is my limit for visible screen size,  though of 
course I don't really need the screen for all that much anyway.


Oh, and I hate! those mini keyboards with a pattion! I really don't think 
they were made with touch typing in mind,  particularly not at the sort 
of speed I tend to type at.


Beware the grue!

Dark. 



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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,
Exactly my point. I think far too often people mistake Netbooks for a
type of inexpensive and slim line type of laptop which they are not.
Oh, they are nice and handy if you are someone who needs to run
standard day to day apps like Word, Excel, Quicken, Firefox, etc but
beyond that you are pressing your luck.  They have relatively small
storage space, less memory, less CPU power, to say nothing of not
coming with dvd burners, etc that comes with a real laptop computer.
Netbooks really are nothing more and nothing less than a type of
notetaker device.
As for looking for a more slim line laptop, as you put it, I'm not
really sure how feasable that is realistically. After all the
difference between a laptop and a netbook computer  can be quite
different. For example, my laptop computer has a 3.6 GHZ processor, 2
GB of ram, a 160 GB hard drive, a 15 inch display, a dvd burner, etc.
It is powerful enough to run about any program/application I want to
run as well as do things like watch dvd movies  which you can't do at
all on a netbook. I know that some laptops have a home theater type
feel to them so they come with 17 inch and even 19 inch displays for
better visibility for people who like using their computer for
watching movies or who want to play video games on their laptop.
Obviously, having such a large display naturally makes the laptop unit
much bigger and heavier to carry around. Netbooks on the other hand
are not designed for video games and watching movies so can afford to
get away with a much smaller screen, not have a full sized keyboard,
not include a dvd player, etc. If you want small you can have it, but
you also have to  do without all of the bells and wistles so to speak.

Smile.

On 5/3/10, dark  wrote:
> That is essentially what put me off getting one myself, the lack of ability
> to do things with it.
>
> I think I'll probably just wait until my laptop explodes, by which time
> there should be powerful enough slim line laptops which will fulfill the
> need very well.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-03 Thread dark
That is essentially what put me off getting one myself, the lack of ability 
to do things with it.


I think I'll probably just wait until my laptop explodes, by which time 
there should be powerful enough slim line laptops which will fulfill the 
need very well.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Hi Will,
I'm sure that will help some, but in my opinion Netbooks aren't
exactly a good option for games of any kind. Keep in mind they are
only designed  to be notetakers  with wireless web access so can't
handle a lot of applications that require heavy system resources. Some
of our games run fine on them, but anything too resource intensive
won't run well at all no matter how much ram you slap into it.

HTH

On 5/3/10, william lomas  wrote:

hi all,

I have a samsung nc10 netbook and games like pinball tend to run quite 
slow.

I assume if I get a 2 gig ram stick it will all run a lot faster?
Will

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Re: [Audyssey] games on netbook

2010-05-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Will,
I'm sure that will help some, but in my opinion Netbooks aren't
exactly a good option for games of any kind. Keep in mind they are
only designed  to be notetakers  with wireless web access so can't
handle a lot of applications that require heavy system resources. Some
of our games run fine on them, but anything too resource intensive
won't run well at all no matter how much ram you slap into it.

HTH

On 5/3/10, william lomas  wrote:
>   hi all,
>
> I have a samsung nc10 netbook and games like pinball tend to run quite slow.
> I assume if I get a 2 gig ram stick it will all run a lot faster?
> Will
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