RE: [gatortalk] Tenn robbers still not off the team?
Ken Maybe we should agree to disagree on this one. Keith Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Tenn robbers still not off the team?From: "Ken Kirkley" k...@kirkley.netDate: Sun, November 15, 2009 12:38 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Yes, rushing to judgement before you know how UT is handling the situation. That is my point, not that they are innocent, not that they don't deserve punishment, they do. But we should wait to praise or criticize once we see how it is handled. When Ronnie Wilson fired an assault weapon in the air, there were many saying he should be kicked off immediately. When Brandon Spikes was gently wiping the dirt off of that Dawgs face, many were calling for his dismissal. Let it play out and then see if criticism is warranted. KenKMNGator From: ke...@baldwinnc.com [mailto:ke...@baldwinnc.com] Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:01 PMTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: [gatortalk] Tenn robbers still not off the team? Rushing to judgement ?!?! The one guy was failed two drug tests, they are out robbing people - at gun point - at 2AM while wearing Tenn football player clothing, caught with drugs,the gun, the hooded sweatshirts, and positively identified. That is rushing to judgement ?!?! Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Tenn robbers still not off the team?From: "Ken Kirkley" k...@kirkley.netDate: Sat, November 14, 2009 11:27 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com I don't think we should be throwing stones at UT over this. They have suspended the players for this game, so let's not rush to judgement as to the final penalty. I hate Kiffy as much as the next Gator, but this is about 4 young adults who have made a terrible mistake and might have thrown their lives away. Armed robbery in most states is a very serious offense, usually requiring mandatory jail time, can't imagine Tennessee is too lenient. As Gators, we have had our share of criminal behaviour over the last few years, and for the most part we have given kids a second or even third chance. It is up to them what they do with these chances and unfortunately most of them have squandered the opportunity to reform (Moss, Hornsby, Wilson, Atkins). All of these guys were suspended from the team - and for the most part we didn't know how long or why they were suspended - and it was up to them to work their way back into the good graces of the coaches. I will wait to see how UT ultimately deals with these 4 students before rushing to judgement. KenKMNGator From: Woody [mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:40 AMTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [gatortalk] Tenn robbers still not off the team? Yet... Urban was attacked for only suspending Spikes for half a game. I havent heard much criticism from the talkin heads toward Kiffin taking his time. Woody On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:24 AM, ke...@baldwinnc.com wrote: I understand that Tenn is busy preparing fora game today I understand that you want to wait for all the facts to come in But hasn't Tenn had enough time and enough facts to distance themselves from these three robbers (and/or accomplice)? Haven't they had enough time and facts to get them out of their dorms and issue a public statement that they are no longer with the team? Seems like the longer Tenn lets this drag out - the more negative publicity they receive Seems like the way to quickly turn a negative into a positive is to just throw all 3 off the team - then you go from being Thug U to a model of how things should be run. Funny how early in the season Tenn had no problem with kidsleaving the team. Wasn't it like 12 kids either left or were kicked off the team? Now Tenn is hanging onto these three robbers (or at least accomplice)? Keith -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball
Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy
Some of the big ones... Tennessee, LSU and Miss St... dont forget we played first... so we could have easily exposed to Bama how to handle them. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:14 AM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: I wonder how those stats would look if they were compiled versus common opponents, teams we have both played. Looking at big play production on offense, it would appear that Alabama did better tonight versus Mississippi State than we did against them. Or maybe I am justed spooked by my fears of Julio Jones and Mark Ingraham running through our secondary. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) --Original Message-- From: oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator Talk ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Alabammy Sent: Nov 14, 2009 7:18 PM Did you see the graphic, UF vs Ala? We score more, get more total yards and give up less yards and points than them. Yet, they have the more complete team? I know, we've got to get past FIU and the semis first. Heh heh heh. So, anyway, about Alabama... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy
We need to send what's her name to visit Mark Ingram and break one or both of his knee caps before 12/5. ;-) Randy - Original Message - From: ken...@earthlink.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:14 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy I wonder how those stats would look if they were compiled versus common opponents, teams we have both played. Looking at big play production on offense, it would appear that Alabama did better tonight versus Mississippi State than we did against them. Or maybe I am justed spooked by my fears of Julio Jones and Mark Ingraham running through our secondary. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) --Original Message-- From: oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator Talk ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Alabammy Sent: Nov 14, 2009 7:18 PM Did you see the graphic, UF vs Ala? We score more, get more total yards and give up less yards and points than them. Yet, they have the more complete team? I know, we've got to get past FIU and the semis first. Heh heh heh. So, anyway, about Alabama... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us Sent from my BlackBerryŽ smartphone with SprintSpeed -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Fw: [gatortalk] Alabammy
One other point: I haven't seen any stats, but it seemed that Spurrier's offense was effective at moving the ball against us at times (when Garcia wasn't being crushed by our blitzers). I hope this doesn't give Alabama any clues as to how to scheme against us. I hope we can come up with some defensive looks that Alabama will not have seen from us. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: ken...@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:46:22 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy That could explain some, I suppose, but teams look at all game tape, not just how we beat an opponent. I just wish people would stop talking about the Gators being 19 - 0, now 20 - 0. This team is 10 - 0. Those other wins belong to the 2008 team. I want our guys to play loose, and have fun, not like they are trying to preserve or maintain something, or be perfect, or play up to the expectations of others. A few weeks ago, although I certainly didn't want us to lose a game, I was thinking that dropping one might actually be liberating for the team, and give them some motivation (as did the loss to 'Ole Miss last year). It could also have helped with the fans' expectations, and we might not have been so critical after close wins. Anyway, it's way too late for that now. We have three games in front of us, and if we win out, we are the SEC Champions and are playing for the National Championship. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:38:03 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy Some of the big ones... Tennessee, LSU and Miss St... dont forget we played first... so we could have easily exposed to Bama how to handle them. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:14 AM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: I wonder how those stats would look if they were compiled versus common opponents, teams we have both played. Looking at big play production on offense, it would appear that Alabama did better tonight versus Mississippi State than we did against them. Or maybe I am justed spooked by my fears of Julio Jones and Mark Ingraham running through our secondary. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) --Original Message-- From: oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator Talk ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Alabammy Sent: Nov 14, 2009 7:18 PM Did you see the graphic, UF vs Ala? We score more, get more total yards and give up less yards and points than them. Yet, they have the more complete team? I know, we've got to get past FIU and the semis first. Heh heh heh. So, anyway, about Alabama... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Alabammy
Seemed like there were a seasons worth of missed tackles to me. _ From: ken...@earthlink.net [mailto:ken...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:37 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Fw: [gatortalk] Alabammy One other point: I haven't seen any stats, but it seemed that Spurrier's offense was effective at moving the ball against us at times (when Garcia wasn't being crushed by our blitzers). I hope this doesn't give Alabama any clues as to how to scheme against us. I hope we can come up with some defensive looks that Alabama will not have seen from us. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _ From: ken...@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:46:22 + To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy That could explain some, I suppose, but teams look at all game tape, not just how we beat an opponent. I just wish people would stop talking about the Gators being 19 - 0, now 20 - 0. This team is 10 - 0. Those other wins belong to the 2008 team. I want our guys to play loose, and have fun, not like they are trying to preserve or maintain something, or be perfect, or play up to the expectations of others. A few weeks ago, although I certainly didn't want us to lose a game, I was thinking that dropping one might actually be liberating for the team, and give them some motivation (as did the loss to 'Ole Miss last year). It could also have helped with the fans' expectations, and we might not have been so critical after close wins. Anyway, it's way too late for that now. We have three games in front of us, and if we win out, we are the SEC Champions and are playing for the National Championship. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _ From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:38:03 -0500 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy Some of the big ones... Tennessee, LSU and Miss St... dont forget we played first... so we could have easily exposed to Bama how to handle them. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:14 AM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: I wonder how those stats would look if they were compiled versus common opponents, teams we have both played. Looking at big play production on offense, it would appear that Alabama did better tonight versus Mississippi State than we did against them. Or maybe I am justed spooked by my fears of Julio Jones and Mark Ingraham running through our secondary. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) --Original Message-- From: oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator Talk ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Alabammy Sent: Nov 14, 2009 7:18 PM Did you see the graphic, UF vs Ala? We score more, get more total yards and give up less yards and points than them. Yet, they have the more complete team? I know, we've got to get past FIU and the semis first. Heh heh heh. So, anyway, about Alabama... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy
One of my first thoughts as I was waking up this morning was: Gators 29, Miss St 19 Bama 31, Miss St 3 They scored more and won with a wider margin. I had to get up and look up the scores with our common opponents: Gators 23, Vols 13Higher score for us, wider margin Bama 12, Vols 10 Gators 41, UK 7Higher score for us, wider margin Bama 38, UK 20 Gators 13, LSU 3 Not as much offense for us but a wider margin (so more defense?) Bama 24, LSU 15 Gators 23, Arky 20Hmmm... Bama 35, Arky 7 Gators 24, USCar 14Higher score for us, narrower margin Bama 20, USCar 6 Did gathering of this information make me feel better about meeting Bama in Atlanta in December? No, not really. Cee - Original Message - From: ken...@earthlink.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:14 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy I wonder how those stats would look if they were compiled versus common opponents, teams we have both played. Looking at big play production on offense, it would appear that Alabama did better tonight versus Mississippi State than we did against them. Or maybe I am justed spooked by my fears of Julio Jones and Mark Ingraham running through our secondary. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) --Original Message-- From: oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator Talk ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Alabammy Sent: Nov 14, 2009 7:18 PM Did you see the graphic, UF vs Ala? We score more, get more total yards and give up less yards and points than them. Yet, they have the more complete team? I know, we've got to get past FIU and the semis first. Heh heh heh. So, anyway, about Alabama... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us Sent from my BlackBerryŽ smartphone with SprintSpeed -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Alabammy
I agree with Charlie, for the first three quarters we didn't tackle so well. Also, we had a hard time getting Garcia on the ground, especially in the first half. JAFO Randy Platt aka PCGator aka The Armchair Quarterback aka The Other Randy Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest! From: Charlie [mailto:ces1...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:39 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Alabammy Seemed like there were a seasons worth of missed tackles to me. _ From: ken...@earthlink.net [mailto:ken...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:37 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Fw: [gatortalk] Alabammy One other point: I haven't seen any stats, but it seemed that Spurrier's offense was effective at moving the ball against us at times (when Garcia wasn't being crushed by our blitzers). I hope this doesn't give Alabama any clues as to how to scheme against us. I hope we can come up with some defensive looks that Alabama will not have seen from us. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _ From: ken...@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:46:22 + To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy That could explain some, I suppose, but teams look at all game tape, not just how we beat an opponent. I just wish people would stop talking about the Gators being 19 - 0, now 20 - 0. This team is 10 - 0. Those other wins belong to the 2008 team. I want our guys to play loose, and have fun, not like they are trying to preserve or maintain something, or be perfect, or play up to the expectations of others. A few weeks ago, although I certainly didn't want us to lose a game, I was thinking that dropping one might actually be liberating for the team, and give them some motivation (as did the loss to 'Ole Miss last year). It could also have helped with the fans' expectations, and we might not have been so critical after close wins. Anyway, it's way too late for that now. We have three games in front of us, and if we win out, we are the SEC Champions and are playing for the National Championship. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _ From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:38:03 -0500 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy Some of the big ones... Tennessee, LSU and Miss St... dont forget we played first... so we could have easily exposed to Bama how to handle them. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:14 AM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: I wonder how those stats would look if they were compiled versus common opponents, teams we have both played. Looking at big play production on offense, it would appear that Alabama did better tonight versus Mississippi State than we did against them. Or maybe I am justed spooked by my fears of Julio Jones and Mark Ingraham running through our secondary. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) --Original Message-- From: oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator Talk ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Alabammy Sent: Nov 14, 2009 7:18 PM Did you see the graphic, UF vs Ala? We score more, get more total yards and give up less yards and points than them. Yet, they have the more complete team? I know, we've got to get past FIU and the semis first. Heh heh heh. So, anyway, about Alabama... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim
RE: [gatortalk] Alabammy
One of the things to keep in mind is that we went through a stretch of games where we uncharacteristically turned the ball over again and again. Playing Keith's patented woulda shoulda game... Eliminate two pick sixes from the Miss St game and the score is 29 - 6 Eliminate a fumble against UT and it is 31-6 Eliminate 3 first half fumbles against Arkansas and we win going away My point is the team was playing tight - they are less so now, the play calling was predictable - it is getting slightly better. We have stopped shooting ourselves in the foot and have two games and an off week to get ready for Bama. Bama is good, but not unbeatable. Ingrahm is good, but was held to 70 yards last night until a late 4thQ 77 yard TD run. We beat Bama last year without Percy and will do so again this year. Ken K MNGator -Original Message- From: Cecilia [mailto:gator...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:42 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy One of my first thoughts as I was waking up this morning was: Gators 29, Miss St 19 Bama 31, Miss St 3 They scored more and won with a wider margin. I had to get up and look up the scores with our common opponents: Gators 23, Vols 13Higher score for us, wider margin Bama 12, Vols 10 Gators 41, UK 7Higher score for us, wider margin Bama 38, UK 20 Gators 13, LSU 3 Not as much offense for us but a wider margin (so more defense?) Bama 24, LSU 15 Gators 23, Arky 20Hmmm... Bama 35, Arky 7 Gators 24, USCar 14Higher score for us, narrower margin Bama 20, USCar 6 Did gathering of this information make me feel better about meeting Bama in Atlanta in December? No, not really. Cee - Original Message - From: ken...@earthlink.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:14 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy I wonder how those stats would look if they were compiled versus common opponents, teams we have both played. Looking at big play production on offense, it would appear that Alabama did better tonight versus Mississippi State than we did against them. Or maybe I am justed spooked by my fears of Julio Jones and Mark Ingraham running through our secondary. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) --Original Message-- From: oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator Talk ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Alabammy Sent: Nov 14, 2009 7:18 PM Did you see the graphic, UF vs Ala? We score more, get more total yards and give up less yards and points than them. Yet, they have the more complete team? I know, we've got to get past FIU and the semis first. Heh heh heh. So, anyway, about Alabama... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us Sent from my BlackBerryŽ smartphone with SprintSpeed -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
RE: [gatortalk] Alabammy
They moved the ball on two drives in the first half when they scored their TDs, other than that, not so much. On 12 drives they averaged 3.6 yards per play. Take out the 2 scoring drives and the averaged 1.5 yards per play on the remaining 10 drives. In the second half, the average 1 yard per play. I'm not sure Bama can take too much from that, except to hope that we miss numerous tackles like we did. Also, I think Garcia is a much better QB than McElroy. One additional thought, we blitzed more last night than I have ever seen, it was fun to watch. On their two scoring drives we brought the corner blitz several times and Garcia checked down to the open man each time. I don't think we ran that blitz in the 2nd half at all. Now, on to Florida International. I'm really worried about this game... Ken K MNGator _ From: ken...@earthlink.net [mailto:ken...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:37 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Fw: [gatortalk] Alabammy One other point: I haven't seen any stats, but it seemed that Spurrier's offense was effective at moving the ball against us at times (when Garcia wasn't being crushed by our blitzers). I hope this doesn't give Alabama any clues as to how to scheme against us. I hope we can come up with some defensive looks that Alabama will not have seen from us. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _ From: ken...@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:46:22 + To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy That could explain some, I suppose, but teams look at all game tape, not just how we beat an opponent. I just wish people would stop talking about the Gators being 19 - 0, now 20 - 0. This team is 10 - 0. Those other wins belong to the 2008 team. I want our guys to play loose, and have fun, not like they are trying to preserve or maintain something, or be perfect, or play up to the expectations of others. A few weeks ago, although I certainly didn't want us to lose a game, I was thinking that dropping one might actually be liberating for the team, and give them some motivation (as did the loss to 'Ole Miss last year). It could also have helped with the fans' expectations, and we might not have been so critical after close wins. Anyway, it's way too late for that now. We have three games in front of us, and if we win out, we are the SEC Champions and are playing for the National Championship. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _ From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:38:03 -0500 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy Some of the big ones... Tennessee, LSU and Miss St... dont forget we played first... so we could have easily exposed to Bama how to handle them. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:14 AM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote: I wonder how those stats would look if they were compiled versus common opponents, teams we have both played. Looking at big play production on offense, it would appear that Alabama did better tonight versus Mississippi State than we did against them. Or maybe I am justed spooked by my fears of Julio Jones and Mark Ingraham running through our secondary. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) --Original Message-- From: oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator Talk ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Alabammy Sent: Nov 14, 2009 7:18 PM Did you see the graphic, UF vs Ala? We score more, get more total yards and give up less yards and points than them. Yet, they have the more complete team? I know, we've got to get past FIU and the semis first. Heh heh heh. So, anyway, about Alabama... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS:
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OK, now I feel better. I'm sure that won't last, though. ;-) Cee - Original Message - From: Ken Kirkley k...@kirkley.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Alabammy One of the things to keep in mind is that we went through a stretch of games where we uncharacteristically turned the ball over again and again. Playing Keith's patented woulda shoulda game... Eliminate two pick sixes from the Miss St game and the score is 29 - 6 Eliminate a fumble against UT and it is 31-6 Eliminate 3 first half fumbles against Arkansas and we win going away My point is the team was playing tight - they are less so now, the play calling was predictable - it is getting slightly better. We have stopped shooting ourselves in the foot and have two games and an off week to get ready for Bama. Bama is good, but not unbeatable. Ingrahm is good, but was held to 70 yards last night until a late 4thQ 77 yard TD run. We beat Bama last year without Percy and will do so again this year. Ken K MNGator -Original Message- From: Cecilia [mailto:gator...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:42 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy One of my first thoughts as I was waking up this morning was: Gators 29, Miss St 19 Bama 31, Miss St 3 They scored more and won with a wider margin. I had to get up and look up the scores with our common opponents: Gators 23, Vols 13Higher score for us, wider margin Bama 12, Vols 10 Gators 41, UK 7Higher score for us, wider margin Bama 38, UK 20 Gators 13, LSU 3 Not as much offense for us but a wider margin (so more defense?) Bama 24, LSU 15 Gators 23, Arky 20Hmmm... Bama 35, Arky 7 Gators 24, USCar 14Higher score for us, narrower margin Bama 20, USCar 6 Did gathering of this information make me feel better about meeting Bama in Atlanta in December? No, not really. Cee - Original Message - From: ken...@earthlink.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:14 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy I wonder how those stats would look if they were compiled versus common opponents, teams we have both played. Looking at big play production on offense, it would appear that Alabama did better tonight versus Mississippi State than we did against them. Or maybe I am justed spooked by my fears of Julio Jones and Mark Ingraham running through our secondary. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) --Original Message-- From: oli...@bobparks.com To: Gator Talk ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Alabammy Sent: Nov 14, 2009 7:18 PM Did you see the graphic, UF vs Ala? We score more, get more total yards and give up less yards and points than them. Yet, they have the more complete team? I know, we've got to get past FIU and the semis first. Heh heh heh. So, anyway, about Alabama... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us Sent from my BlackBerryŽ smartphone with SprintSpeed -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at
